Nikhil T wrote:Karan M wrote:Order too few tanks. Then crib about lack of license production driven indigenization. Brilliant.
What surprised me was that he disputed Arjun’s superior performance as compared to the T90, which has been the chief argument to procure more Arjuns. All in all very disappointing chat and maybe now the lack of Arjun orders is not as surprising to me.
If he is a T-90 guy, the moon will disintegrate before he acknowledges the Arjun is superior. You have to account for the fact that the operator of any equipment keenly identifies with it. If you had wanted to put him on the spot, you could have put out details of the Arjun's FCS, GCS, Suspension etc to prove how superior its armament fire control and accuracy is, however what would have been the point? All you'd have done is proven your point and vitiated the environment.
Fact is lets see what the IA is planning for the T-90s. Add commanders sight (which still won't be anywhere as capable as that on the Arjun), upgrade its FCS (again, an outcome discerned from the match-up vs the Arjun), add an APU/ECS - again, to match the ability of the Arjun to operate around the clock, add a new ballistic computer - again derived from the Arjuns to allow it operate indigenous weapons. A new MRS, again to improve gun accuracy, and derived from the Arjun face-off.
What the IA cannot do is change the design to add extra protection - Arjun Mk1A has the ammo blast panels tested and inducted. The T-90 can't implement anything similar. The crew are literally sitting in a tub of ammo.
In short, he was mistaken and the AHQ/DGMF are doing whatever they can to rectify some of the T-90S's glaring deficiencies keeping our budget/available engineering capabilities in mind.
Its been a decade since we've been scouting for an ECS/APU solution for the T-90, with worldwide RFIs, we still haven't found a single answer.
And as regards FSAPDS, he is only partially correct. The T-90 operates the Mango round (DOI 1986 in Russia) and it is only now being license assembled at OFB. The first few tranches should be in service with the IA by now. The other rounds are HEAT/HE variants, and the Refleks round, which too is being license assembled at BDL.
The problem with the T-90 exists to the point that the only way to increase performance is to replace the entire gun system, and hence there is a RFI out for that as well. For the Arjun, you can retrofit a new gun without any challenge from the design owner. The designer and manufacturer are both Indian.