Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Larry Walker » 21 May 2020 01:48

It's like putting the cart before the horse. Weapons need to be evaluated by professional experts who have indepth understanding and insight. If the claim is that some glossy brochure sways them then I don't know what to say about these purported experts. What I suspect is that no matter how hard we try to believe otherwise, but these experts don't have their hearts in the right place and their loyalties are not aligned with nations best interests. They do the hanky-panky on their own accord and temptations. And then they conveniently use these shiny brochures to convince us aam janta on honesty of their decision.

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Postby Larry Walker » 21 May 2020 01:57

Example is any new products or black-projects of the USA. When they are evaluated, there are no competing glossy brochures to influence, the stakeholders and experts evaluate these against requirements already agreed. Glossy brochures are printed much later to circulate in arms fairs and to be send to aviation magazines.

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Postby Kartik » 21 May 2020 02:34

Larry Walker wrote:It's like putting the cart before the horse. Weapons need to be evaluated by professional experts who have indepth understanding and insight. If the claim is that some glossy brochure sways them then I don't know what to say about these purported experts. What I suspect is that no matter how hard we try to believe otherwise, but these experts don't have their hearts in the right place and their loyalties are not aligned with nations best interests. They do the hanky-panky on their own accord and temptations. And then they conveniently use these shiny brochures to convince us aam janta on honesty of their decision.


Brochure specs are what drives a certain image of a type. And MOST people, even so called experts, go by those brochure specs till they actually get to evaluate it which is wayyy down the chain of analysis. It is the reason why Gripen C/D is so highly extolled, whereas a Tejas Mk1 that is 90-95% as capable as it, gets targeted with all sorts of lies about range, payload, maintenance issues, not meeting requirements, etc.

Saab constantly and I mean constantly harps on and on about it's features (which the Tejas has as well) and low operating costs. Do you ever hear DRDO talking about low operating costs? Or how many man-hours of maintenance per sortie? I'm sure it's comparable if not better than Gripen, yet there is next to ZERO effort made to market it to the public and build up an image of a product that is world class.

Because Saab has to sell it's products mostly on the export market, they need a positive perception of their products. DRDO and PSUs have a captive customer who is now going to be come even more of a captive customer with the new decree to buy indigenous as much as possible. So why even bother to spend the effort right? The Armed Forces will have to come to them anyway. But will exports work with this lackluster marketing?


Is it the job of people like Indranil, HVT and others to dispel myths about the Tejas? To educate the masses and put a positive spin? What about those who are actually building the product and then offering golis telling that other nations are interested in their products when the results don't show that? Are those people that naive that they don't know what perception of a product means?

99% of the aam junta cannot tell whether a certain claim made in a brochure is true or not. And then from among those 99% arise those who build up a narrative of a failed project, a project that doesn't meet IAF's needs and so on. Even today on FB, I saw some 2-3 Indian idiots pontificating that spending $5.3 billion on Tejas Mk1A is a waste and that IAF should buy Gripen instead. I cannot tell you how irritated I was to read that, but can I blame those idiots for not having spent too much time reading up and finding the true details? IMO, the blame for this is the image created by the lifafa journalists compounded by the complete lack of marketing and that blame lies only on the doorstep of DRDO and PSUs.

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Postby Kartik » 21 May 2020 02:53

I'll give another example- the combat range figure of the Tejas versus the advertised range of the Saab Gripen C/D. As HVT said, similar engine, similar weight, similar fuel, so the truth should be obvious right? Yet, Saab gains a positive image by clever marketing whereas our numbers are probably 100% accurate and shorn of any polish volish or fine print to explain all the assumptions made to get to such a figure.

Saab knows fully well that they'll have to provide the real numbers IF and WHEN a real evaluation occurs. But what do you gain by doing that with generic marketing material that most of us consume? For that, they'll put out fancy numbers without revealing any details of what those figures mean or how they arrived at them. Just like the mileage assumptions that auto makers have to put in the fine print- drive straight without braking, on a completely even road at 50 kmph and no higher.

JF-17 fans actually believed that the JF-17's combat range was 2200 km because it was shown as the range at some Air show by the Chinese designers. And around that time, the Tejas website mentioned it's combat range to be 350 km with no mention of Ferry Range. I've tried arguing physics with so many posters on other forums asking them how 2 fighters with nearly identical weight, internal fuel and engine SFC can have diametrically opposite range figures.

Turns out the "range" that the Chinese were referring to was actually Ferry Range and not Combat Range, which was obvious to me but not to the 99% of Pakis who basically have no logic nor real understanding of the product. This is only now dawning upon those idiots after seeing new brochures that show it as the Ferry Range.

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Postby SidSoma » 21 May 2020 03:42

Kartik wrote:I'll give another example- the combat range figure of the Tejas versus the advertised range of the Saab Gripen C/D. As HVT said, similar engine, similar weight, similar fuel, so the truth should be obvious right? Yet, Saab gains a positive image by clever marketing whereas our numbers are probably 100% accurate and shorn of any polish volish or fine print to explain all the assumptions made to get to such a figure.

Saab knows fully well that they'll have to provide the real numbers IF and WHEN a real evaluation occurs. But what do you gain by doing that with generic marketing material that most of us consume? For that, they'll put out fancy numbers without revealing any details of what those figures mean or how they arrived at them. Just like the mileage assumptions that auto makers have to put in the fine print- drive straight without braking, on a completely even road at 50 kmph and no higher.

JF-17 fans actually believed that the JF-17's combat range was 2200 km because it was shown as the range at some Air show by the Chinese designers. And around that time, the Tejas website mentioned it's combat range to be 350 km with no mention of Ferry Range. I've tried arguing physics with so many posters on other forums asking them how 2 fighters with nearly identical weight, internal fuel and engine SFC can have diametrically opposite range figures.

Turns out the "range" that the Chinese were referring to was actually Ferry Range and not Combat Range, which was obvious to me but not to the 99% of Pakis who basically have no logic nor real understanding of the product. This is only now dawning upon those idiots after seeing new brochures that show it as the Ferry Range.


Added to this the underreporting of capabilities such as Max Payload. Why would you do that ??

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Postby Prithwiraj » 21 May 2020 04:38

Unlike commercial manufacturer no one within HAL will take the risk of garnishing data for the fear of so called corruption charges and CAG findings pointing out data fudging etc. For internal audiences. All the HAL leadership must be super defensive to protect their pension and post retirement benefits and not take the risk of being labeled as someone who was “caught”. Anyway they have done enough sacrifices by choosing to stay in a PSU instead of joining private sector in monetary terms. It is just from personal perspective not worth the risk and there is no incentive. There are enough vultures out there looking to pounce

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby ashishvikas » 24 May 2020 13:09

Big Day for Indian Air Force - On Wednesday, 27 May 2020, the Second Light Combat Aircraft Tejas Squadron- No. 18 Squadron, Flying Bullets will be inducted into the Indian Air Force.

The Squadron was earlier resurrected in April 2020, at Sulur, Tamil Nadu.

https://twitter.com/delhidefence/status ... 90912?s=19

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Postby arvin » 24 May 2020 21:44

Kartik wrote:
Because Saab has to sell it's products mostly on the export market, they need a positive perception of their products. DRDO and PSUs have a captive customer who is now going to be come even more of a captive customer with the new decree to buy indigenous as much as possible. So why even bother to spend the effort right? The Armed Forces will have to come to them anyway. But will exports work with this lackluster marketing?


HAL needs a private competitor.
Tejas can follow sea harrier model of manufacturing. The sea harrier variant was manufactured by Hawker sidley\Bae and AV-8B harrier variant by Mcdonal Douglas.
HAL can cater to IAF\IN and private guys adept at marketing and sales can focus on exports.

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Postby Rakesh » 24 May 2020 22:00

ashishvikas wrote:Big Day for Indian Air Force - On Wednesday, 27 May 2020, the Second Light Combat Aircraft Tejas Squadron- No. 18 Squadron, Flying Bullets will be inducted into the Indian Air Force.

The Squadron was earlier resurrected in April 2020, at Sulur, Tamil Nadu.

https://twitter.com/delhidefence/status ... 90912?s=19

Amazing news! Do we know when in April 2020 the squadron was raised. Need to update page 1. Also any info on who the Squadron CO is?

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Postby fanne » 24 May 2020 22:43

:eek: Its Nirmaljit Sekhon’s squadron

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Postby Rakesh » 24 May 2020 22:49

Indeed it is fanne. A great day for the IAF.

I found this on twitter...so will go with this date....

https://twitter.com/Leopard212/status/1 ... 94498?s=20 ---> Second Light Combat Aircraft TEJAS Squadron; No. 18 SQUADRON, Flying Bullets (Param Vir Chakra Sqn) - The Only Bravest Of The Brave Fighter Flying Unit of Indian Air Force will be the Second LCA TEJAS Squadron of the IAF. Was to be resurrected on 1 April 2020 (Old Air Force Day).

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Postby Aditya_V » 25 May 2020 11:14

Here is twitter link with pics of La 5001 to La 5016 of No. 45 Flying Daggers

https://twitter.com/Maverick_bharat/status/1264538162447224832

What is HAL's plan

1) manufacture 15 FOC single seaters in 2020-21

2) Manufacture 18 2 seat trainers in 2021-22

3) From Fy 2022-23 move to 73 MK1A single seat manufacturing.

I hope there is some Naval variants also going get produced.

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Postby wig » 25 May 2020 17:13

Squadron of IAF’s sole PVC recipient Nirmaljit Sekhon to take to the skies again
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/natio ... gain-89771

Squadron of IAF’s sole PVC recipient Nirmaljit Sekhon to take to the skies again
The outfit, No. 18 Squadron, also known as ‘Flying Bullets’, has been resurrected at the Salur Air Force Station in Tamil Nadu on the indigenously made Tejas light combat aircraft and is being inducted into the Air Force on May 26

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The squadron was initially formed on the nimble Gnat fighter aircraft. It first saw action during the 1971 Indo-Pak war and operated out of Srinagar with the task of defending the Kashmir Valley. Sekhon, then just 28 and hailing from Ludhiana, was part of the deployment. On December 14, 1971, Sekhon, along with another officer, scrambled to counter an attack by Pakistan aircraft and shot three enemy Sabre jets in aerial combat. His own aircraft was hit and he went down. For his actions, he was decorated with the highest gallantry award.

After the war, the Gnats were replaced with HAL Ajeet in 1975. In May 1989, when the squadron was at Hindon, it received the MiG-27 and its role changed from air defence to ground attack. It then moved to Kalaikunda in the North-East, where it was awarded the President’s Standards in 2015 before flying into the sunset.

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Postby fanne » 26 May 2020 01:18

Rumor on twitter - Tejas in Leh!!
Is it the best plane to fly from such an altitude? With mature (shall I say best) Air to ground ability and decent AA ability it may be tasked to handle the Chinese should the balloon go up?

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Postby ks_sachin » 26 May 2020 03:54

fanne wrote:Rumor on twitter - Tejas in Leh!!
Is it the best plane to fly from such an altitude? With mature (shall I say best) Air to ground ability and decent AA ability it may be tasked to handle the Chinese should the balloon go up?

It's been there before...

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Postby srai » 26 May 2020 06:01

^^^
Designed from ground up for Indian operational conditions and per IAF specifications.
Which other fighter in the fleet can boast about that?





http://delhidefencereview.com/2020/05/1 ... s-fighter/
On the other hand, one of the quintessential operational requirements for Indian borders is the ability to operate from high altitude airfields during hot summers. ‘Hot and high’ conditions severely impede any aircraft’s lift generation capability and thereby payload capacity. This is especially true of fighter aircraft with small wings. Image 4 below shows the Tejas being prepared for flight during hot weather trials at Leh Airfield, which is at an altitude of 10,682 feet above mean sea level, with a payload of about 3.2 t. Once again, bear in mind that this is a test aircraft with 300 kg of extra instrumentation onboard. Forget the two fighter aircraft it is being compared to, taking off with 3.5 t of payload during summer at Leh is near the what twin-engined medium-weight fighter can accomplish, while operating in similar conditions. This is not surprising because the wing area of the Tejas is comparable to that of medium weight fighters.


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Postby Wickberg » 26 May 2020 14:03

srai wrote:^^^
Designed from ground up for Indian operational conditions and per IAF specifications.
Which other fighter in the fleet can boast about that?

Ehhh, every fighterplane that exists? Gripen for instance is in service from the cold north of Sweden down to the humid heat of Thailand, from the high planes of Afghanistan to dry hot temperatures of South Africa. Pretty much the same goes with every fighter that exists today...

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Postby srai » 26 May 2020 14:06

^^^
In IAF fleet? Designed by India?

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Postby Khalsa » 26 May 2020 14:27

Cross Posting from the MRCA Thread and I have slightly tweaked the sub-points.

Indranil wrote:Next time somebody asks you:

1. Is manufacturing MWF in 2028 okay?
Answer: Tell them that IF MMRCA is to be signed in 2020, its production would conclude in 2032 and that is deemed as okay !

1.b If the Gripen in chosen, its certification wouldn't conclude by 2023. But that is okay too !

2. Is producing 16 aircrafts per year for an 83 aircraft order okay?
Answer: Tell them 114 aircrafts over 12 years was deemed to be okay !


@Admiral. We need a special section on page 1 of this thread that captures the 101 that you and Indranil are pounding out.
We now need to infect the massess with the combination of knowledge, awareness, direction we have as a BRaves.

Vidya, Vinamrata, Veerta

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Postby Lekhraj » 26 May 2020 14:49

What is the benefit of having a Tejas airbase in Coimbatore. Tejas flight envelop is small and its requirement is more in the Himalayas bordering pakistan and cheen.

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Postby srai » 26 May 2020 15:09

^^^
One of the initial reasons is Bangalore aviation hub for LCA manufacturing and after sales support. Once kinks are ironed out, they will most likely be located on airbases that the MiG-21s occupy.

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Postby Picklu » 26 May 2020 15:48

Wickberg wrote:Ehhh, every fighterplane that exists? Gripen for instance is in service from the cold north of Sweden down to the humid heat of Thailand, from the high planes of Afghanistan to dry hot temperatures of South Africa. Pretty much the same goes with every fighter that exists today...

Per chaiwala, Gripen could not even take off with full fuel load from Leh during mmrca trial, forget any other payload.

Even the other MMRCA contender aircrafts had to undergo fuel system changes to operate from leh

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Postby srai » 26 May 2020 17:11

^^^
That was the point I was trying to make (but was misunderstood by the poster replying). Extreme conditions of specific localities are not necessarily part of the original requirements if those conditions don’t exist in the host country developing the fighter. Little benefit for extra costs to the host nation. What happens afterwards is when international sales occur lessons learned from operating in different customer environments are then gradually incorporated to meet all operational requirements. It’s one thing to deploy for a short duration and yet another altogether to permanently base in a new locality which the original host designer nation doesn’t have.

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Postby Rakesh » 26 May 2020 18:49

https://twitter.com/writetake/status/12 ... 03616?s=20 ---> What's your take on Tejas second squadron getting formed? Please DM your views and the best two I shall embed in my report. Also remember to leave your full name, profession and city. Remember to share original thoughts and not CCP. Thank You.

https://twitter.com/Skbanbotra/status/1 ... 72032?s=20 ---> Building more Tejas is a superior option for us. Produce nearly to 16 - 20 per year from 2021 will help to form two more squadrons till 2024 till Mk1A will come. Mk1A should have more upgrades related to EO senors like OSF, IRST will help to gain a better edge against PLAAF.

https://twitter.com/KSingh_1469/status/ ... 38499?s=20 ---> There’s absolutely 0 issues from the production side to do that. HAL as lead production agency has created sufficient capacity along with their private sector partners to deliver 16++/year. Issue is 100% the lack of orders. As of now HAL only has 20+20 orders for LCA.

https://twitter.com/Skbanbotra/status/1 ... 30560?s=20 ---> Tejas Mk1A will never get more orders due to its light category and IAF wants medium fighters like Rafale and MWF. But if the squadron strength is the problem then additional Tejas Mk1A, additional 18 - 24 Rafales and MKIs can easily add 10 squadron in next 5 - 7 years without delays.

https://twitter.com/KSingh_1469/status/ ... 57825?s=20 ---> Which is the absurdity of the entire situation and shows how IAF has been moving the goalposts all the way through. Initially LCA was meant only to be a cheap and simple MIG-21 replacement for the interceptor role. Now IAF is asking for a Rafale “lite” effectively.

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Postby Rakesh » 26 May 2020 19:01

https://twitter.com/AtuL1617___/status/ ... 50656?s=20 ----> HERE in this picture, we can clearly measure the payload weight fitted on LCA —

* 2 x 1,500 = 3,000-Kg
* 2 x 118 = 236-Kg
* 2 x 105 = 210-Kg
* External Fuel = 700 - 750 Kg

Total Payload — approx 4,200+ Kg

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Postby Rakesh » 26 May 2020 21:07

Khalsa wrote:Cross Posting from the MRCA Thread and I have slightly tweaked the sub-points.
Indranil wrote:Next time somebody asks you:

1. Is manufacturing MWF in 2028 okay?
Answer: Tell them that IF MMRCA is to be signed in 2020, its production would conclude in 2032 and that is deemed as okay !

1.b If the Gripen in chosen, its certification wouldn't conclude by 2023. But that is okay too !

2. Is producing 16 aircrafts per year for an 83 aircraft order okay?
Answer: Tell them 114 aircrafts over 12 years was deemed to be okay !

@Admiral. We need a special section on page 1 of this thread that captures the 101 that you and Indranil are pounding out.
We now need to infect the massess with the combination of knowledge, awareness, direction we have as a BRaves.

Vidya, Vinamrata, Veerta

Page 1 is like an encyclopedia on the program that is occurring.

If IR writes an article expanding on the above, I will most definitely add it on Page 1. I am already adding every article he (and others like him) writes on Page 1 anyway.

Like IR, there are a number of people putting up a great fight for desi maal. Here are some of their twitter profiles...

1) https://twitter.com/hvtiaf

2) https://twitter.com/writetake

3) https://twitter.com/SJha1618

4) https://twitter.com/KSingh_1469
* This guy hammers the point really well, the above three are no less though. Each one adopts a different strategy in how they get the message across.

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Postby ashishvikas » 27 May 2020 00:09

No 18 Squadron "Flying Bullets" resurrected with the LCA Tejas.
The second squadron of Tejas fighters, to be based at Sulur in TamilNadu, will see these homegrown birds inducted tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/delhidefence/status ... 1711962113

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Postby Rakesh » 27 May 2020 00:21

OH MY GOODNESS. THAT IS GORGEOUSIIIII :eek:

Ashish Saar, every time you post, you make us jingos happy. Sau Saal Jiyo!!!

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Postby Shameek » 27 May 2020 00:26

:D Fantastic news! Blue skies to them.

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Postby Vamsee » 27 May 2020 00:54

Flying Bullets Is Also Set To Become The Second IAF Tejas Squadron

The Flying Bullets will be commanded by Group Captain Manish Tolani, a veteran of the LCA Project and someone who was till recently the Flight Commander of the No.45 ‘Flying Daggers’, currently the only operational Tejas squadron in the IAF.

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Postby Rakesh » 27 May 2020 01:05

Page 1 updated with the CO's name. Vamsee Saar, much thanks to you.

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Postby Rakesh » 27 May 2020 01:10

Waiting for the day when No 18 Flying Bullets Squadron - flying the Tejas - takes over from No 51 Sword Arms Squadron in the air defence of the Srinagar Valley. That is where Flying Officer Nirmal Jit Singh Sekhon achieved immortality and lived up to the IAF's motto of Tejas Tejasvi Namaham (Touch the Sky with Glory).

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Postby Kartik » 27 May 2020 01:22

Vamsee wrote:Flying Bullets Is Also Set To Become The Second IAF Tejas Squadron

The Flying Bullets will be commanded by Group Captain Manish Tolani, a veteran of the LCA Project and someone who was till recently the Flight Commander of the No.45 ‘Flying Daggers’, currently the only operational Tejas squadron in the IAF.


Excellent!

And love the new No.18 'Flying Bullets' patch!

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Now, if they only apply that shade of grey uniformly for the entire aircraft instead of the two tone grey. :(

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Postby Kartik » 27 May 2020 03:50

Beautiful image of SP-17 coming in to land, courtesy HVT. Notice the IFR probe has been removed. As HVT stated, it is tested both with and without the probe.

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Postby Raman » 27 May 2020 04:24

Rakesh wrote:... lived up to the IAF's motto of Tejas Tejasvi Namaham (Touch the Sky with Glory).


Small correction:
- Tejas Tejasvi Namaham - I am the glory of the glorious. TACDE
- Nabhah Sparsham Deeptam - Touch the sky with glory. IAF

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Postby rahul_r » 27 May 2020 04:52

Then Wing Commander Tolani is featured in this HT video from 2017 when he was part of the Flying Daggers

2.40sec mark




Vamsee wrote:Flying Bullets Is Also Set To Become The Second IAF Tejas Squadron

The Flying Bullets will be commanded by Group Captain Manish Tolani, a veteran of the LCA Project and someone who was till recently the Flight Commander of the No.45 ‘Flying Daggers’, currently the only operational Tejas squadron in the IAF.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Aditya_V » 27 May 2020 11:21

Kartik wrote:Beautiful image of SP-17 coming in to land, courtesy HVT. Notice the IFR probe has been removed. As HVT stated, it is tested both with and without the probe.



So its really Bolt on Bolt IFR probe, there was a debate on this a few pages back.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby ashishvikas » 27 May 2020 11:28

To all #Tejas fans out there -- this is piping hot SP22. #AvGeeks

https://twitter.com/writetake/status/12 ... 90272?s=20

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Postby Aditya_V » 27 May 2020 11:28

Mean while, I hope this chance becomes a reality

https://twitter.com/writetake/status/1265487978949943296?cxt=HGwWgIC1zZWn9Y8jAAAA

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There are chances that CAS ACM RKS Bhadauria MIGHT fly #Tejas at #AFSSulur today to mark the operationalisation of No 18 Sqn #FlyingBullets.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Kartik » 27 May 2020 11:34

ashishvikas wrote:To all #Tejas fans out there -- this is piping hot SP22. #AvGeeks

https://twitter.com/writetake/status/12 ... 90272?s=20

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Beautiful! Hasn't yet conducted it's first flight though, AFAIK. So will still be at HAL Bangalore and most likely won't be seen at AFS Sulur, where No.18 Squadron's raising ceremony will be conducted.

Big day for IAF and HAL as new Tejas squadron takes off today

Anantha Krishnan's article on the re-raising of No.18 Squadron and Sulur AFS has some good new info..For instance, the second-line servicing for Tejas fighters has been set up so they don't depend on HAL anymore for that. Apparently, the servicing is done every 250 hours or annually, probably whichever comes first.

The IAF taking over the second line maintenance of Tejas fighters from HAL before full overhaul is a big step. Will need to also be set up at other air bases where Tejas fighters will be based in the north. But for now, even Tejas fighters based up north can travel back to Sulur AFS for their 250 hour or annual overhaul.
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