Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Singha » 05 Mar 2019 13:13

another well timed "error" or was it a fruedian slip as to future activity ?
krachi needs a real dressing down as the source of the 26/11 attacks, numerous drone incursions, D-comany warehouse & adda, fake currency logistical hub...

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While addressing the rally in Gujarat, PM Modi said that "Under the Ayushman Bharat health scheme, if a resident of Jamangar has gone to Bhopal, and happens to falls ill, he/she need not comeback to Jamnagar for treatment. If the person shows their (Ayushman Bharat) beneficiary card, they will get free treatment anywhere in the country, be it Kolkata, or even Karachi."

Calling it a slip-of-tongue, the prime minister was quick to correct his remark by saying that he "meant to say Kochi, not Karachi".

He went on to say that "Nowadays my mind is preoccupied with the situation with our neighbouring country."

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby AshishAcharya » 05 Mar 2019 13:13

disha wrote:^AshishAcharya'ji, above article from latimes is also garbage.

It peddles a particular line of rhetoric - "nukular flashpoint". And then talks about Im'Dim being statesman.


After Reading the article again, I think you are right. Well we can't expect any trust any Western Media. After all their own people don't trust them. Nor should we care what they write.

And moreover, we have UBCN here at BRF. Always ahead of the curve. :D

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby khan » 05 Mar 2019 13:13

Apparently the Bakis saw an Indian sub off their coast, seem to have pics: https://tribune.com.pk/story/1923388/1- ... ers/?amp=1

What they don’t seem to understand is, if the sub surfaced, the sub wanted to be seen - maybe to send a message :mrgreen:

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby partha » 05 Mar 2019 13:20

khan wrote:Apparently the Bakis saw an Indian sub off their coast, seem to have pics: https://tribune.com.pk/story/1923388/1- ... ers/?amp=1

What they don’t seem to understand is, if the sub surfaced, the sub wanted to be seen - maybe to send a message :mrgreen:

1) This
2) Modi mentioning Karachi instead of Kochi
3) Naval chief Sunil Lamba talking about sea based terror threat

Naval blockade?

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Amber G. » 05 Mar 2019 13:21

Meanwhile - A short 2 minute video for those who wants PROOF of attack - could be used as a reply.
https://twitter.com/KarunaGopal1/status/1102629193119162369

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby manjgu » 05 Mar 2019 13:22

i would have actually loved VK SIngh and Dhanoa do the 1st press conf after the raid.. the babus just came..read a para and ran away ...not v graceful.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Singha » 05 Mar 2019 13:22

Navy chief also expressed his displeasure today morning in indo pacific conclave about sea borne terrorists being trained

Its not a good sign for krachi imo all these tea leaves even pm thinking of that place

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby khan » 05 Mar 2019 13:23

partha wrote:
khan wrote:Apparently the Bakis saw an Indian sub off their coast, seem to have pics: https://tribune.com.pk/story/1923388/1- ... ers/?amp=1

What they don’t seem to understand is, if the sub surfaced, the sub wanted to be seen - maybe to send a message :mrgreen:

1) This
2) Modi mentioning Karachi instead of Kochi
3) Naval chief Sunil Lamba talking about sea based terror threat

Naval blockade?

Maybe even a soft-blockade. Scare off cargo ships & raise insurance prices. If Bakis were smart they would keep their mouths shut about this, but some things can be counted on :mrgreen:

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Kashi » 05 Mar 2019 13:29

manjgu wrote:i would have actually loved VK SIngh and Dhanoa do the 1st press conf after the raid.. the babus just came..read a para and ran away ...not v graceful.


I think it's been explained why it was FS who announced the strikes instead of someone from the services. Because this was carried out on foreign soil.

VK Singh as the deputy foreign minister could have been a good option as well.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby chetak » 05 Mar 2019 13:37

Kashi wrote:
manjgu wrote:i would have actually loved VK SIngh and Dhanoa do the 1st press conf after the raid.. the babus just came..read a para and ran away ...not v graceful.


I think it's been explained why it was FS who announced the strikes instead of someone from the services. Because this was carried out on foreign soil.

VK Singh as the deputy foreign minister could have been a good option as well.


FS came in because of the non military nature of the attack.

Had it been a straight forward military mission, the secretary from the MoD would have led the presser.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby khan » 05 Mar 2019 13:47

Shiv Aroor’s take: https://twitter.com/shivaroor/status/11 ... 84896?s=21

Navy releases footage to local media claiming it has 'detected' @IndianNavy submarine INS Kalvari. No word from navy yet, but if video/coordinates are authentic, then Indian Navy likely *wants* Pak to know that attack submarine/s are lurking 200 km from Karachi.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Karan M » 05 Mar 2019 13:48

JayS wrote:
disha wrote:
Bakistan has a simple choice. Get off its anti-Hindu anti-India band wagon and shut down its terror factories.



You are basically asking Pakis to stop being Pakis. Its not a simple choice for them.


Might as well ask a pig to stop playing in the mud, stop rooting for grub, stop going oink oink.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby khan » 05 Mar 2019 13:50

khan wrote:Shiv Aroor’s take: https://twitter.com/shivaroor/status/11 ... 84896?s=21

Navy releases footage to local media claiming it has 'detected' @IndianNavy submarine INS Kalvari. No word from navy yet, but if video/coordinates are authentic, then Indian Navy likely *wants* Pak to know that attack submarine/s are lurking 200 km from Karachi.

Shiv Aroor plotted the GPS co-ordinates. It looks like it is right across Gwadar actually. Message to China?

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby pankajs » 05 Mar 2019 13:57

Singha wrote:Navy chief also expressed his displeasure today morning in indo pacific conclave about sea borne terrorists being trained

Its not a good sign for krachi imo all these tea leaves even pm thinking of that place

Warning to bakis of sea based mischief and its cost.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby pankajs » 05 Mar 2019 14:00

khan wrote:
khan wrote:Shiv Aroor’s take: https://twitter.com/shivaroor/status/11 ... 84896?s=21

Navy releases footage to local media claiming it has 'detected' @IndianNavy submarine INS Kalvari. No word from navy yet, but if video/coordinates are authentic, then Indian Navy likely *wants* Pak to know that attack submarine/s are lurking 200 km from Karachi.

Shiv Aroor plotted the GPS co-ordinates. It looks like it is right across Gwadar actually. Message to China?

Broad message to both that the whole coast is vulnerable and that any sea routed g**dugiri will get a response in this domain.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Karan M » 05 Mar 2019 14:05

At this rate Imran Khan Niazi will run out of water for his frequent lota trips to the bathroom.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby khan » 05 Mar 2019 14:05

pankajs wrote:
khan wrote:Shiv Aroor plotted the GPS co-ordinates. It looks like it is right across Gwadar actually. Message to China?

Broad message to both that the whole coast is vulnerable and that any sea routed g**dugiri will get a response in this domain.

Agreed. I was reading somewhere, they have one operational Agosta. Do they use it protect their economy in Karachi or Chinas $60 billion investment in Gadwar or save it as a nuclear deterrent (as some reports claim)?

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby ranneel » 05 Mar 2019 14:07

Check out @AdityaRajKaul’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/statu ... 41954?s=09
Indian sub as seen from Paki aircraft at 20:35 on the night of 4th March.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby shaun » 05 Mar 2019 14:10

Are Scorpene and Aguosta of same lineage ?

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby khan » 05 Mar 2019 14:10

pankajs wrote:
khan wrote:Shiv Aroor plotted the GPS co-ordinates. It looks like it is right across Gwadar actually. Message to China?

Broad message to both that the whole coast is vulnerable and that any sea routed g**dugiri will get a response in this domain.

Not only that, they already did sea based mischief with Mumbai. There is no statue of limitations for a response. G**dugiri has already happened.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby nam » 05 Mar 2019 14:16

Singha wrote:another well timed "error" or was it a fruedian slip as to future activity ?


I think PM wanted to say "Karachi..err (INS) Kochi" :rotfl:

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Kakarat » 05 Mar 2019 14:19

khan wrote:
khan wrote:Shiv Aroor’s take: https://twitter.com/shivaroor/status/11 ... 84896?s=21

Navy releases footage to local media claiming it has 'detected' @IndianNavy submarine INS Kalvari. No word from navy yet, but if video/coordinates are authentic, then Indian Navy likely *wants* Pak to know that attack submarine/s are lurking 200 km from Karachi.

Shiv Aroor plotted the GPS co-ordinates. It looks like it is right across Gwadar actually. Message to China?


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The point is Will the navy be exposing itself like this to the enemy unless they want to give them some message?
It could be also a TSP propaganda to show them self as victims, it could be pak sub too

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Kashi » 05 Mar 2019 14:21

Some reports saying that the footage is identical to what TSP had released in 2016 when they claimed to have spotted another Indian submarine.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Manish_P » 05 Mar 2019 14:21

Could also be a chankian way to increase Insurance costs for Vessels sailing to/through Pakistan ports :twisted:

Or the usual Baki tactical brilliance of shooting themselves in the foot :lol:

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby khan » 05 Mar 2019 14:24

If it is fake, the alleged proximity to Gadwar, could be a ploy to get China to help them.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Dilbu » 05 Mar 2019 14:25

Or it might be a message to India that don't think we don't know what IN is up to. Not that they can do a fat lot about it if IN decides to do something.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby sudhan » 05 Mar 2019 14:30

If they are trying to draw in Cheen, they are in for a mighty fizzle..

Cheen knows better than to mess with the enraged Bull elephant

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Singha » 05 Mar 2019 14:32

Kashi wrote:Some reports saying that the footage is identical to what TSP had released in 2016 when they claimed to have spotted another Indian submarine.


same LLTV/IR camera on same P3 orion fleet.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Pratyush » 05 Mar 2019 14:35

shaun wrote:Are Scorpene and Aguosta of same lineage ?



No, they have the same country of origin though.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Kakarat » 05 Mar 2019 14:43

To me it looks more like a Agosta class, will shortly post my analysis with pictures

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Aditya_V » 05 Mar 2019 14:44

Doubt an Indian Naval vessel would have surfaced, its more like thier Agosta subs.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Kashi » 05 Mar 2019 14:45

Singha wrote:same LLTV/IR camera on same P3 orion fleet.


But even the same camera and same equipment even if filming the same object in the same area (which incidentally this wasn't) cannot produce identical footage two years apart can it?

It appears that the footage is identical, not similar.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Singha » 05 Mar 2019 14:54

bhai its 400km off karachi and 168km off gwader.

imo its not worth spending time on. sub was not near pak waters except that it heard the LRMP coming and promptly surfaced!

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Aditya_V » 05 Mar 2019 14:57

Why would a sub do that unless it was a Paki sub.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby ranneel » 05 Mar 2019 14:59

There are a series of lat/long in the video which can be plotted and compared with the lat/long of the 2016 video (if present).Can anyone share the footage of the 2016 video ?

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby shravan » 05 Mar 2019 15:07

Pakistan decided to take over madrasahs of banned outfits and recruit their members in para-military troops in December 2018 but implementation delayed due to financial constraints now Govt decided to allocate funds for this project in coming budget @Asad_Umar :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby ranneel » 05 Mar 2019 15:24

Flightradar24 tweet: Pakistan has again extended the general closure of its airspace for additional 24 hrs till 6th March 08:00 UTC.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Karan M » 05 Mar 2019 15:28

ranneel wrote:Flightradar24 tweet: Pakistan has again extended the general closure of its airspace for additional 24 hrs till 6th March 08:00 UTC.


What are they gaining from this?

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby dipak » 05 Mar 2019 15:29

Birathers, nobody missing grand master of Sohrawarthy street ...?
What is his analysis so that indian response time can be measured and next move can be calibrated.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby rhytha » 05 Mar 2019 15:29

Karan M wrote:
ranneel wrote:Flightradar24 tweet: Pakistan has again extended the general closure of its airspace for additional 24 hrs till 6th March 08:00 UTC.


What are they gaining from this?


Showing they are ready.


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