Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Lalmohan » 14 Mar 2019 14:42

jamwal - to add to your observations, despite whatever is being spouted by arm chair experts, the governmental/official responses from the G7-9 have not been anti-India, nor has the ummah risen up as one against the hanood, which in itself creates space for India to take further action without attracting criticism.

Everyone WANTS Pakistan to get a jhapad

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby jamwal » 14 Mar 2019 14:54

I wouldn't count on Arab support much. They may not be overtly supporting paki momeens , but it's very likely that they'd be aiding them covertly. Jordan, Turkey usually help pakis militarily along with usual suspects SA.
As far as this support is concerned, Indian actions should be unaffected by it. It's not like 1971 that Indira sent a diplomat to this forum only to be snubbed.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Lalmohan » 14 Mar 2019 15:26

indeed, but in 71 unkil was actively pushing the a-rabs to help their ummah-anti-commie-birather
this time unkil couldn't care less
although bolturam is meeting with FM and saying we stand with india
wsj is publishing editorials saying its time to back india against the jehadis
something is shifting

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Bart S » 14 Mar 2019 16:58

habal wrote:
Singha wrote:any form of street food video in pakistan on youtube shows there is hardly any preference for veg in the diet.
its always some form of meat + naan.
perhaps meat is cheaper than tomatoes there :twisted:
all that burned meat done on open flame coal sigri cannot be too good long term. volatile organic compounds will come out of the coal and attach themselves on the meat.

a more active horse borne lifestyle of old in the steppe , could perhaps sustain such a diet. not the indolent life of a jihadi leader roaming in toyota fortuner.


and the afghans accuse pakistanis of being 'dal eaters'.
Me thinks only pakistani street food is majorly non-veg so as to attract customers.
food cooked at home is more in Indian style of saag, daal, choley, haleem, katlama, nihari, paya, biryani etc.

If one eat meat in all meals, kidney and/liver will give up one after the other.
this is also reason why in most hospital wards treating liver and urology sections, the patients admitted are disproportionately from one community.


Nothing wrong with eating more protein, it’s the carbs and sugars that do more damage. Of course Nihari and biriyani are not the healthiest ways to consume protein.

However in the case of Pakis inbreeding is probably the biggest cause of such diseases.

Also, this ‘Pakis eat soooo much meat’ is in some ways a TFTA vs SDRE type myth propagated by Pakis. In reality they are scraping by on whatever they can get with a socioeconomic level similar to Bihar, and it is very likely the average SDRE Tamilian or Bong eats much more meat and fish than the average Paki.
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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby A_Gupta » 14 Mar 2019 17:04

^^^^ does this add anything to your summary, jamwal? "The sources said that the Indian Air Force has submitted proof of 80 per cent of the bombs used in the airstrike hitting their intended target."
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/i ... 2019-03-06

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Lalmohan » 14 Mar 2019 17:06

in MA's case his liver/kidney failure was probably caused by 20kgs of hot steel passing through his abdomen at high velocity... (inshallah)

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby suryag » 14 Mar 2019 19:09

UBCN and other garus what would have happened if the wingco hadnt gone down in POK ?

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby vnms » 14 Mar 2019 19:44

suryag wrote:UBCN and other garus what would have happened if the wingco wasn’t shot down ?

Saar, the wing commander was NOT shot down.

I repeat, HE WAS NOT SHOT DOWN

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby suryag » 14 Mar 2019 22:41

VNMS sir apologies, edited my post

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby SaiK » 15 Mar 2019 01:49

How many MA lookalikes [including hospitalization] we can see them coming up with?

probability that he is alive? - 51:49 [if you trust China as well, blocking extradition]
..that he is dead: 49:51 [if they keep getting hit! /check more news about camp/launchpad eliminations]

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Dileep » 15 Mar 2019 07:50

The pakpasandi of otherwise 'liberal secular' IMs needs to be seen to be believed. Balakot was belligerent. Balakot attack missed by a mile. TFTA JF17 shot down our KSRTC like MiG. Benevolence of pakis to hand over Abhi. Pulwama was chankian by Modi. etc.. etc...

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Bishwa » 15 Mar 2019 08:20

In the balakot complex, that big building is supposed to be a lecture hall... at 3am that place would be likely empty with both trainees and trainers fast asleep in their accommodation.

Why would the IAF strike that building at 3am if its purpose was a lecture hall?

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby disha » 15 Mar 2019 08:29

Bishwa wrote:
Why would the IAF strike that building at 3am if its purpose was a lecture hall?


At night the lecture hall is filled with goats ...

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Kashi » 15 Mar 2019 08:55

Dileep wrote:The pakpasandi of otherwise 'liberal secular' IMs needs to be seen to be believed. Balakot was belligerent. Balakot attack missed by a mile. TFTA JF17 shot down our KSRTC like MiG. Benevolence of pakis to hand over Abhi. Pulwama was chankian by Modi. etc.. etc...


Who are these 'liberal secular' IMs that you are referring to?

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Dileep » 15 Mar 2019 09:42

^^There are aplenty.. These are the people who openly criticize the beards/mullahs, wahabism, 3T etc and well integrated to the general society.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby anishns » 15 Mar 2019 09:59

Amazing article!

ANALYSING THE TACTICAL & TECHNICAL EFFICACY OF THE INDIAN AIR FORCE’s USE OF SPICE 2000 BOMBS TO TARGET PAKISTAN BASED JAISH_E_MOHAMMAD’s (JeM) TERROR CAMP AT JABA HILL TOP, BALAKOT ON 26 FEB 2019

https://medium.com/@sameerjoshi73/hell-for-leather-e8d607efb854

***The author is an former fighter pilot with extensive experience on the Mirage 2000 and MiG 21 aircraft of the IAF. He has seen combat in the 1999 Indo Pak Kargil conflict. He writes on military subjects and his article on the Air War in Syria, won the best military aviation submission at the 2017 Paris Airshow.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Singha » 15 Mar 2019 10:07

I read it. Could visualize the dark line of mirages streaking in snake formation low through a series of valleys and a blasting heavy metal track playing as soundtrack

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Singha » 15 Mar 2019 10:09

The lecture halls would function as dormitories at night
In austere style would be just rugs on floor not desk and bench classrooms

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Singha » 15 Mar 2019 10:15

Clip from film mausam about mirage2k loaded with matra bgl1000 getting ready to hit tiger hill

https://youtu.be/LGzb0O7KvVM

Its genuine stuff shot at base

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby anishns » 15 Mar 2019 10:23

Singha wrote:I read it. Could visualize the dark line of mirages streaking in snake formation low through a series of valleys and a blasting heavy metal track playing as soundtrack


^^^

Since Balakot have seen the movie Les Chevaliers Du Ciel (SkyFighters) twice :P
One of greatest Mirage 2K visuals ever. The single seater is one sexy bird...surpassed only by the Rafale of course! :mrgreen:


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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby tapan » 15 Mar 2019 10:45

anishns wrote:
Singha wrote:I read it. Could visualize the dark line of mirages streaking in snake formation low through a series of valleys and a blasting heavy metal track playing as soundtrack


^^^

Since Balakot have seen the movie Les Chevaliers Du Ciel (SkyFighters) twice :P
One of greatest Mirage 2K visuals ever. The single seater is one sexy bird...surpassed only by the Rafale of course! :mrgreen:



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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Gus » 15 Mar 2019 11:11

Dileep wrote:The pakpasandi of otherwise 'liberal secular' IMs needs to be seen to be believed. Balakot was belligerent. Balakot attack missed by a mile. TFTA JF17 shot down our KSRTC like MiG. Benevolence of pakis to hand over Abhi. Pulwama was chankian by Modi. etc.. etc...


The proliferation of social media channels in youtube, fb, whatsapp, twitter etc have created bubbles...

wife is in some groups in which some were forwarding stuff like 'govt is lying, we lost planes in attack, that's why blah blah..'...

it is difficult to confront these every single time...but over a period of time you get coopted due to the sheer volume of fake stuff put out..

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Chinmayanand » 15 Mar 2019 11:44

https://twitter.com/bababanaras/status/ ... 16096?s=19

This tweet gives indication of Brahmos strike on Al Bakistan on 5/6 March . Any chaiwala input on this third strike ?

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Kashi » 15 Mar 2019 11:47

I would take it with a pinch of salt. Missile strikes are not so easy to hide, plus, where exactly was their target?

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Singha » 15 Mar 2019 11:58

perhaps it was that ammo dump strike reported as artillery fire. I mean when dozens of shells are in the air. why not send in a missile or two.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Singha » 15 Mar 2019 12:00

the air lane over the rann of kutch is now opened. one can see flights coming from krachi side to jaipur, kathmandu etc in the air.

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Postby Aditya_V » 15 Mar 2019 12:11

Well these were earlier news reports

http://kashmirnewsbureau.com/2019/03/12/pakistan-air-force-army-on-high-alert-lines-border-with-f-16-fighters-troops/

Senior South Block officials said that Pakistan Director General Military Operations (DGMO) did not pick up the routine Tuesday telephone call from his Indian counterpart on February 26. The Indian DGMO unsuccessfully tried to call his Pakistani counterpart the following day also after Islamabad dramatically accused India of launching nine missiles.

The first DGMO level conversation took place only on March 5 with the Pakistan DGMO asking for de-escalation along the LoC as the Indian side had replied in equal measure to cross-LoC firing. Since then, there has been a lull in cross-LoC firing.


I thought this mortar, sniping may be we used some 155mm shells, guys that tweet if its still hard to believe was true, was really tough douse given to Pakis. and still the Babur and RAAD stayed in their bases?

Brohmos plus Ammo dump woould have meant significant casualties to the PA. It was evident that 27 Feb PAF attack demanded a response, just hope it is true. Both sides have kept a cap on things.
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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby yensoy » 15 Mar 2019 12:35

Singha wrote:the air lane over the rann of kutch is now opened. one can see flights coming from krachi side to jaipur, kathmandu etc in the air.


No evidence of lines being open. On FR24 if you see a black dashed line it means there is no data and the shortest path is being vectored to the destination from the last known location. Actual data is only where the solid coloured line exists (specific colour indicates altitude plane flew at).

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby AdityaM » 15 Mar 2019 12:56

anishns wrote:^^^
Since Balakot have seen the movie Les Chevaliers Du Ciel (SkyFighters) twice :P
One of greatest Mirage 2K visuals ever. The single seater is one sexy bird...surpassed only by the Rafale of course! :mrgreen:


Can anyone explain what happens at 2:31 seconds. What are those flaps that open up? Air brakes?

Also at 2:49 there is a plane with its cockpit glass cover missing. What’s that

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby nachiket » 15 Mar 2019 13:33

AdityaM wrote:Can anyone explain what happens at 2:31 seconds. What are those flaps that open up? Air brakes?

Yes those are air brakes

Also at 2:49 there is a plane with its cockpit glass cover missing. What’s that

Been a while since I watched that movie but I believe the rear seat pilot either ejects himself or is forcibly ejected.

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Postby Singha » 15 Mar 2019 14:20

he ejects the terrorist rear seat pilot, then picks up his friend who somehow "sits" inside the now seatless rear cockpit to make good the escape.
in between he also blows up the other mirage on the ground :)

"fahrenheit" is a true jock.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Dilbu » 15 Mar 2019 14:49

Dileep wrote:The pakpasandi of otherwise 'liberal secular' IMs needs to be seen to be believed. Balakot was belligerent. Balakot attack missed by a mile. TFTA JF17 shot down our KSRTC like MiG. Benevolence of pakis to hand over Abhi. Pulwama was chankian by Modi. etc.. etc...

I am ashamed to admit that the percentage of Keralites among this so called liberal but outright anti national crowd is much higher compared to other parts of the country. Yet some of us who are nationalists are as hardcore as they come. Something is definitely not right with Kerala society.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Aditya_V » 15 Mar 2019 16:29

Apart from that 1 odd tweet is there anyone else claiming that Brahmos took out a Paki Army dump on 5 Mar 2019

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby chola » 15 Mar 2019 16:53

Dilbu wrote:
Dileep wrote:The pakpasandi of otherwise 'liberal secular' IMs needs to be seen to be believed. Balakot was belligerent. Balakot attack missed by a mile. TFTA JF17 shot down our KSRTC like MiG. Benevolence of pakis to hand over Abhi. Pulwama was chankian by Modi. etc.. etc...

I am ashamed to admit that the percentage of Keralites among this so called liberal but outright anti national crowd is much higher compared to other parts of the country. Yet some of us who are nationalists are as hardcore as they come. Something is definitely not right with Kerala society.


To be perfectly honest, it is a South Indian intellectual thing. My parents were college-educated Tamils and very liberal and so were all their friends and circle. It is schooling especially from the professors who cut their teeth in the 1960s I imagine. It is an ivory tower syndrome that, for my parents at least, faded over the years in the States under slights from whites so they are now highly defensive of all things Indian and desi :lol:

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Lalmohan » 15 Mar 2019 17:01

sky fighter is a poor translation, knights of the sky is more literal
the word chevalier is very rich in meaning - literally 'horseman', but is used for knight - a noble warrior hero fighting the good fight for king and god, etc., etc. (slaughtering infidel beardies for the pope, etc., etc.)

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Suresh S » 15 Mar 2019 17:06

I would request someone like Rudradev or anyone who has more patience than me to counter attack this absolute farticle , unfortunately published by our russian friends . every line is a lie from start to finish. Please do it fast as something like this will be read by millions on sputnik .
https://sputniknews.com/columnists/2019 ... -showdown/

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Rishi » 15 Mar 2019 17:13

Chinmayanand wrote:https://twitter.com/bababanaras/status/1105829074918916096?s=19

This tweet gives indication of Brahmos strike on Al Bakistan on 5/6 March . Any chaiwala input on this third strike ?



https://www.incpak.com/national/iaf-inf ... ort-abbas/

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby yensoy » 15 Mar 2019 18:50

Unlikely to be a Sudarshan since its range of 9km (as per Wiki) will not be sufficient to hit Fort Abbas. A fighter will have to fly right into the border at a high speed, release the payload and loop upwards while not violating the border (in fact leaving a margin of few km) in order to hit Fort Abbas. Now if the ammo dump is closer to the border than the town itself, that could be a possibility - but I couldn't find anything on the aerial photos resembling an army outpost.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Singha » 15 Mar 2019 19:47

we need to get masood azhar ji similarly tarred and feathered in all the arab states. that will cut down his utility as "wealthy donors" will move on to other worthy "causes" worldwide.

that will hasten his unfortunate demise due to health issues.

China can give him hero of the revolution medal, but is hardly likely to settle in china or vacation there.


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