Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Indranil » 29 Jan 2020 02:26

Aircafts in active service look like this. Naval planes even more so.

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Postby Kartik » 29 Jan 2020 06:11

Naval LCA NP-2 with its elder brother MiG-29K on board INS Vikramaditya

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby kit » 29 Jan 2020 06:21

Indranil wrote:Aircafts in active service look like this. Naval planes even more so.

One can just imagine the level of maintenance required for a stealth fighter ... just after *each* flight !!

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Rakesh » 03 Feb 2020 23:26

https://twitter.com/SoumyaR57322232/sta ... 24320?s=20 ----> Sir...recently Tejas landed on Vikramaditya..And also it was taken to the hangar for a small repair....(fits on Vikramaditya lift). Hot refueling was done on the deck....Navy was quite impressed.

^^^^ Response to comment above is the tweet below....

https://twitter.com/hvtiaf/status/12243 ... 09792?s=20 ----> It is impressive by any standard.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Rakesh » 04 Feb 2020 01:22

https://twitter.com/JA_Maolankar/status ... 15425?s=20 ---> Wonderful shot after the night trap which aptly depicts the serenity that follows after the brutal violence of a night trap!

Click on the link to see the picture ----> https://www.instagram.com/p/B42NN2MhR13 ... cje7srygxb

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby shaun » 04 Feb 2020 09:50

https://twitter.com/hvtiaf/status/12178 ... 49/photo/1 ----> LCA Navy...What a bird. Incredible shot. BTW, Drone Geo-Lock doesn't work off-shore. Thanks Deb Rana.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Manish_Sharma » 05 Mar 2020 21:36

A gem from Maolankar Sir....

Moving forward with the LCA (Navy)
https://www.vayuaerospace.in/article/342/index.aspx
30 Jan 2020

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Indranil » 05 Mar 2020 22:43

This man deserves a Bharat-ratna. Rakesh, please pin this report to the first post. IN BIG BOLD LETTERS.

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Postby Vivek K » 05 Mar 2020 23:06

You beat me to it IR! His contribution to Indian aviation is no less than the researchers and KH. Some day India should recognize that inspite of all obstacles, impacts to their careers - men like these believed in India and are amongst her greatest patriots.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby UlanBatori » 05 Mar 2020 23:38

What happened to the canard of the Naval LCA? The one shown looks standard same as IAF LCA? BTW, LCA with 3 models IS India's "JSF". A V/STOL version can be developed later. They should put 100 cellphones on it and it becomes an F-35.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Jay » 06 Mar 2020 00:00

The article from Mao ji gives me Goosebumps!

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby astal » 06 Mar 2020 08:48

How about an annual $ 5000.00 or thereabouts BRF prize for outstanding contribution to Indian Defense Indigenization.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Rakesh » 08 Mar 2020 22:14

https://twitter.com/KSingh84856557/stat ... 70144?s=20 ---> A MUST read from Vayu Aerospace from horse’s mouth (Commodore Maolankar - Chief TP for NLCA project). Articles don’t come better than this, it outlines enormity of the task these patriots have undertaken and proved why these indigenous efforts are irreplaceable.

https://www.vayuaerospace.in/article/342/index.aspx

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Rakesh » 08 Mar 2020 22:30

https://twitter.com/ReviewVayu/status/1 ... 86050?s=20 ----> Shortly, will send 8 tweets on the Naval LCA and an in-depth article of what it took for the landings. It's a fascinating read. All enthusiasts MUST read it before commenting. Will tag Commodore Jaideep Maolankar (MAO), Group Director FTO & Chief Test Pilot here. Our cover story.

https://www.vayuaerospace.in/article/342/index.aspx

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Rakesh » 08 Mar 2020 22:32

https://twitter.com/ReviewVayu/status/1 ... 27008?s=20 ---> 1/8: Commodore Jaideep Maolankar (MAO), Group Director (FTO) & Chief Test Pilot, National Flight Test Centre (NFTC) and Captain Shivnath Dahiya (DAX), the naval test pilot, presently with the NFTC, ADA at Bangalore.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Rakesh » 08 Mar 2020 22:36

https://twitter.com/ReviewVayu/status/1 ... 42496?s=20 ---> 2/8: Both MAO and DAX have been strenuously involved with the LCA-N and its flight testing including arrested landings and take offs from the INS Vikramaditya. Pix: Deb Rana

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Rakesh » 08 Mar 2020 22:40

https://twitter.com/ReviewVayu/status/1 ... 73600?s=20 ---> 3/8: Probably the most important lesson learnt during this test phase was that a conservative design does not necessarily generate addit safety. In the case of the nose oleo, the design case was for a virtually impossible 3 point landing at 1400 fpm.

https://twitter.com/ReviewVayu/status/1 ... 73600?s=20 ---> 4/8: Preparations by the crew have been achieved by a combination of two factors: deep immersion into the aircraft’s design processes and infusion of knowledge from the ‘best in the business’ at the Carrier Suitability Division of the US Navy.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Rakesh » 08 Mar 2020 22:41

https://twitter.com/ReviewVayu/status/1 ... 36960?s=20 ----> 5/8: As would be expected, there is a lot of justifiable pride associated with these achievements, most of which are uniquely ‘Indian’ and will naturally far outlive employment of the current test aircraft.

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Postby Rakesh » 08 Mar 2020 22:42

https://twitter.com/ReviewVayu/status/1 ... 39712?s=20 ---> 6/8: In typical fighter pilot fashion, such elan has found expression in creation of two new patches: one for all the crew associated with the SBTF and the other more exclusive for those qualified to conduct ‘Carrier Suitability’ testing.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Rakesh » 08 Mar 2020 22:46

https://twitter.com/ReviewVayu/status/1 ... 35042?s=20 ---> 7/8: The wide spectrum of benefits already flowing from the LCA (Navy) programme are clearly out of proportion with its diminutive physical dimensions.

https://twitter.com/ReviewVayu/status/1 ... 91298?s=20 ---> 8/8: Benefits certain to accrue in the future will be invaluable in laying the foundation for India’s carrier-borne aviation of the future.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Rakesh » 08 Mar 2020 22:52

Very rarely do wallpaper sized images come. This is one of those times. If you are an aviation buff or just love desi maal, you need to save these images for your personal collection.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Kartik » 09 Mar 2020 00:50

Rakesh wrote:https://twitter.com/ReviewVayu/status/1235525765136936960?s=20 ----> 5/8: As would be expected, there is a lot of justifiable pride associated with these achievements, most of which are uniquely ‘Indian’ and will naturally far outlive employment of the current test aircraft.

Beautiful shot. Really shows off the best looking variants of the LCA..and clearly illustrates how much better the Navy's color scheme looks as compared to the IAF's dated color scheme.
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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Kartik » 09 Mar 2020 01:10

Rakesh wrote:https://twitter.com/ReviewVayu/status/1235528742795014144?s=20 ----> LCA-Navy's cockpit!

Superb pic! can see so many details of the LCA Navy cockpit in this pic. See the Hook Off and Down switch and the Fuel Dump switches. Both are unique to LCA Navy. Can also see 2143 kg of internal fuel, also indicated by the green color of the wing, fuselage and aft fuselage fuel tanks on the left MFD. Can also see a 'Clean AC' button covered by a glass cover, which when pressed most likely jettisons all external stores.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Jayram » 09 Mar 2020 02:04

Rakesh email sent to admins.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby ranjan.rao » 09 Mar 2020 04:25

may be a very basic question to ask..but does it have a start button ..or does it have some key mechansim..

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby ks_sachin » 09 Mar 2020 05:31

ranjan.rao wrote:may be a very basic question to ask..but does it have a start button ..or does it have some key mechansim..

No, it has a crank handle at the back near the engine.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Khalsa » 09 Mar 2020 13:58

Rakesh wrote:https://twitter.com/ReviewVayu/status/1235525765136936960?s=20 ----> 5/8: As would be expected, there is a lot of justifiable pride associated with these achievements, most of which are uniquely ‘Indian’ and will naturally far outlive employment of the current test aircraft.

Why is the a/c on the right hand side looking bigger to me ?
The spine behind the canopy looks bigger, the shoulder looks bigger. Perhaps even the wing area.
Obviously an optical illusion or I am just thinking its bigger because its a 2 seater

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Jaeger » 09 Mar 2020 14:20

Khalsa wrote:Why is the a/c on the right hand side looking bigger to me ?
The spine behind the canopy looks bigger, the shoulder looks bigger. Perhaps even the wing area.
Obviously an optical illusion or I am just thinking its bigger because its a 2 seater

It's lifted on jacks. See the nose / outer wing area.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Khalsa » 09 Mar 2020 15:24

Jaeger wrote:
Khalsa wrote:Why is the a/c on the right hand side looking bigger to me ?
The spine behind the canopy looks bigger, the shoulder looks bigger. Perhaps even the wing area.
Obviously an optical illusion or I am just thinking its bigger because its a 2 seater

It's lifted on jacks. See the nose / outer wing area.


My good Lord it is. Thank you kind Sir.

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Postby Rakesh » 09 Mar 2020 18:39

Jayram wrote:Rakesh email sent to admins.

I received your email. I will respond soon. Sorry for the delay.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby NachiketM » 22 Mar 2020 03:29

Rakesh wrote:https://twitter.com/ReviewVayu/status/1235528742795014144?s=20 ----> LCA-Navy's cockpit!
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Excellent Snap ... 8)
Couldn't help but imagine how wonderful the view would be with a bubble canopy like an F-16 or F-22 ... :D 8)
I hope they are doing it for the AMCA.

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Postby NachiketM » 22 Mar 2020 03:35

Also I noticed a peculiar pipe-like fitting running through the borders of the canopy with many holes in it. I have never seen anything like it on any other a/c.
Does anybody know what it is?
My guess is it's just there for added strengthening but I could be wrong. It surely isn't for air-conditioning ...

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Reddy » 22 Mar 2020 06:54

NachiketM wrote:Also I noticed a peculiar pipe-like fitting running through the borders of the canopy with many holes in it. I have never seen anything like it on any other a/c.
Does anybody know what it is?
My guess is it's just there for added strengthening but I could be wrong. It surely isn't for air-conditioning ...


Maybe defogging? Warm air to manage fog as it is operating in rapidly changing humidity condition?

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby NachiketM » 22 Mar 2020 19:46

Reddy wrote:
NachiketM wrote:Also I noticed a peculiar pipe-like fitting running through the borders of the canopy with many holes in it. I have never seen anything like it on any other a/c.
Does anybody know what it is?
My guess is it's just there for added strengthening but I could be wrong. It surely isn't for air-conditioning ...


Maybe defogging? Warm air to manage fog as it is operating in rapidly changing humidity condition?


No. The cabin is pressurised and that prevents fogging up.
It's a strange contraption and none of the fighters I have seen have it.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Avtar Singh » 23 Mar 2020 03:13

it will be for defogging/demisting,
pressurisation alone will not stop this happening when humidity changes dramatically..
it is part of the air conditioning system... scroll to page 9 of this falcon 2000 manual

http://www.smartcockpit.com/docs/DASSAU ... ection.pdf

misting may/will happen when descending from higher levels onto the surface
of the very warm Indian ocean


the aircraft on the right, as we see them, has much greater nose wheel oleo extension.
hence it is sitting higher.......
perhaps they are testing with different pressures in the oleos

same models of aircraft type will not be different in dimensions

all jet engines are started with a button or switch

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Sumair » 23 Mar 2020 05:52

could it be a fire suppressant system?!

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Indranil » 23 Mar 2020 11:02

No, it is the vents for the ECS systems. It keeps the canopy at the same temperature as the cockpit. IT is there even in the Tejas. It is painted black there and hence gets camouflaged into the canopy frame.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby ramana » 24 Mar 2020 02:54

Indranil,
How common is the structure of Naval LC to the Tejas?
I know the undercarriage, the front canards, and the engine.
Can it be made on the Tejas lines during gap between FOC and Mk1A at HAL?

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Indranil » 24 Mar 2020 21:04

Ramana sir,

Think of LCA has 3 fuselage parts: front, middle and rear; the wing and the fin. The front fuselage section, wing and fins are identical. A lot of the LRUs are identical. So, I can't imagine why NLCAs cannot be buid from the same assembly line.


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