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Are the forces resisting because once theaterised, the responsibility will be crystal clear and the gps coordinates of where the buck stops will be at the theatre commander's desk?
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Rakesh wrote: https://twitter.com/DesiEscobar07/statu ... sKIPujj62A ---> PM Modi will be briefed about the steps taken towards creation of military theatre commands by CDS Anil Chauhan at the CCC at Karwar naval base in Karnataka in March 2023.
Good, the PM May have to do a quarterly review if anything concrete needs to happen.

Hé bhagwan... Ek aadmi kitna karega :(

I'm amazed how NaMo stays commited, positive and encouraging when even in the most trusted and hallowed places barriers are erected by dragging feet instead of taking the opportunity and delivering faster than expected.
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Cyrano wrote:
He has hit the nail on the head. NSD and NSS, even if they were fully spelt out today will not be static for very long given the profound transformation of the world towards multi-polarity and the formation of groups, alliances that reflect changing interests of the involved parties in our neighborhood and beyond.
Problem as I see it is that we don't have one at the moment. So theater commanders are working in a vacuum as are the current chiefs.

Gen Naravane's statement is surprising and his argument tries to put a fig leaf on the resistance to change within each service and the resistance to change the existing balance of power/responsibility between the services - essential to achieve theaterisation.[/quote]

On the contrary Gen Naravane as I see it saying that the organisational changes will not be truly effective if we don't go for deeper reforms. IF we had a coherent strategy / approach vis-a-vis the Chinese then perhaps then things could be different. Without a coherent approach, we will keep asking for light tanks after the fact!!!
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Cyrano wrote:Are the forces resisting because once theaterised, the responsibility will be crystal clear and the gps coordinates of where the buck stops will be at the theatre commander's desk?
Some officers are resisting, not the forces as a whole. Unfortunately, following is true and so theater commands will face resistance by design.

https://twitter.com/somnath1978/status/ ... _Q694sAAAA
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+100. We have 17 commands today to prosecute war w/o NSS. But cannot have 4 commands sans NSS. The chorus of opposition seems to stem only frm vested interest - fewer commands -> fewer flag ranks -> fewer perks...
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This will keep going around in circles.

Exuent Sachin
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Coming to the core question, are NSD and NSS constitutionally/ legally required? Or is it a norm from the west we want to implement?
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sivab wrote:
Cyrano wrote:Are the forces resisting because once theaterised, the responsibility will be crystal clear and the gps coordinates of where the buck stops will be at the theatre commander's desk?
Some officers are resisting, not the forces as a whole. Unfortunately, following is true and so theater commands will face resistance by design.

https://twitter.com/somnath1978/status/ ... _Q694sAAAA
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@somnath1978 +100. We have 17 commands today to prosecute war w/o NSS. But cannot have 4 commands sans NSS. The chorus of opposition seems to stem only frm vested interest - fewer commands -> fewer flag ranks -> fewer perks...
This is quite a stupid take on the whole Theater Command concept. But actually, its not as if this Somnath guy is wrong in this regard but his way of thinking about Theater Commands is how most here are approaching this issue.

People are looking at Theater Command simply as an act of devolving command(s) of each Service under a respective Theater Command.

For example, when it comes to Eastern Theater Command, people expect these commands to fold into it -

(1) Indian Army - Central Command and Eastern Command
(2) Indian Air Force - Central Command and Eastern Air Command.

Is this what people think Theater Commands are all about? Just folding up Services commands under respective Theater Commands?

And what will we achieve with this? Better Command and Coordination? OK. To some extent.

But will this Eastern Theater Command have ALL the resources required to fight the war on Eastern front? NOPE. Especially, not in the IAF domain.

This is what General Naravane is talking about - Please define what these Theater Commands are expected to achieve and then go about defining their structure and equipment and troop levels.
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What about the Indian Navy? WNC has definitely a role to play at least in western theatre, doesn't it?

I find it hard to believe that during all the years we've been talking about this, when Gen Rawat was appointed as CDS , during his tenure and until now "what these Theater Commands are expected to achieve" has never been defined.

Even if there has been no formal definition, it again defeats comprehension that our forces have been operating in these "theatres" for decades without any idea of what their objectives are.

Those objectives do not dramatically change simply because the concept of theatres is being formalised.

Are we conflating National Security Doctrine which covers matters beyond military like space assets, cyber, and many other aspects (like water release from Indus or use of Intel/disruptive assets in enemy territory for ex.) which "Theatre specific objectives definition" which will be a subset of it?

Look at all the measures India took during Galwan wrt China. A lot of them were beyond military but we're part of the national security response. The spectrum could be even larger than that.

Why does the military need all that to be spelt out and formalised before reorganising itself to pursue the same objectives it does today in a lot more combined and coordinated manner with the required command structure cutting across/bringing together (depending on your perspective) for greater operational efficiency and impact?

If indeed the govt comes up with comprehensive NSD and NSS documents, the last thing we'd want is for it to be published.

Whatever the US publishes is it's prerogative as the dominant world power, so let's leave that out.

The worst thing would be for our forces to insist on such a document and work in a way to achieve it - thereby boxing themselves into it and be constrained in a dynamic and deeply changing world.
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IDS website has published lots of material on doctrines

https://ids.nic.in/doctrine.php
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ramana wrote:IDS website has published lots of material on doctrines https://ids.nic.in/doctrine.php
Thank you for this find -- it is clear that the writers have thought broad and deep into the problems. The differences we see aired in public, therefore, is not between knowledge vs ignorance, but between current constraints and future aspirations. This is a healthy and normal tension.
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But tension about the future should not mow the present.

The future is built on the present shaped within the current constraints.
These naysayers don't want the present and want an illusory future reflecting the past.
Anyway, NaMo is to get a briefing from CDS in March 2023 on progress per reports.
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But if we don’t learn from history Ramana we are condemned to repeat it. We have enough examples of things…

I am not against reform but let it be considered.

Lets not have rose coloured glasses here.
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Many administrative tasks were shoved to CDS Late Gen Rawat.
The new CDS has deputies to take care of that.
So above comments are not germane.
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Government sets stage for integrated military commands,introduces bill for inter-services organisations- ToI

NEW DELHI: Setting the stage for creation of an integrated theatre commands in the country, a bill to empower the government to constitute inter-services organisations and provide disciplinary and administrative powers to their commanders was introduced in Parliament on Wednesday.

The Inter-Services Organisations (Command, Control and Discipline) Bill, 2023, was introduced by junior defence minister Ajay Bhatt amid the din in Lok Sabha.The bill comes ahead of the impending move to establish integrated or joint commands, where all the manpower and assets of the Indian Army, Navy and IAF will be under the operational control of a single three-star general.

The creation of these unified commands was stalled after the country’s first chief of defence staff General Bipin Rawat died in a helicopter crash in December 2021.

With General Anil Chauhan taking over as the next CDS in September last year, they are once again on top of the agenda, as reported by TOI earlier.

The proposed legislation will ensure the requisite command and control of the existing inter-services organisations as well as the proposed integrated theatre commands to be created in the coming months.It will “empower” the commander-in-chief or the officer-in-command of an inter-service organisation to maintain discipline and ensure proper discharge of duties of all the personnel from the army, navy and IAF serving under his command.

At present, military personnel are governed by different acts and rules of their own respective services. These are the Air Force Act, 1950, the Army Act, 1950 and the Navy Act, 1957.“The new bill is an enabling provision for joint services organisations, where personnel from all three services are posted.It will ensure an officer from any one service can now exercise direct command over personnel from the other two services,” an official said.

India currently has only two unified commands, the geographical Andaman and Nicobar Command and the functional Strategic Forces Command to handle the country’s nuclear arsenal, which were set up in 2001 and 2003 after the Kargil conflict with Pakistan in 1999.There are also some tri-service organisations like the Defence Intelligence Agency, Defence Cyber Agency, Defence Space Agency and the Armed Forces Special Operations Division.

In contrast, there are as many as 17 single-service commands (Army 7, IAF 7 and Navy 3), which have little connection in planning and operations as well as command-and-control structures.Consequently, there is the urgent need to build an integrated war-fighting machinery within the budgetary constraints through the creation of the joint commands.China re-organised its 2.3-million People’s Liberation Army into five theatre commands in early 2016 to boost offensive capabilities and establish better command-and-control structures.

Its Western Theatre Command, for instance, handles the entire 3,488-km Line of Actual Control from eastern Ladakh to Arunachal Pradesh.India, in contrast, has four Army and three IAF commands for the `northern borders’ with China.
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"Government has introduced the Inter-Services Organisations (Command, Control and Discipline) Bill, 2023 in Lok Sabha to strengthen tri-services commanders' powers. The Bill seeks to empower the Commander-in-Chief or the Officer-in Command of Inter-Services Organisations in respect of service personnel for the maintenance of discipline and proper discharge of their duties. Minister of State for Defence Ajay Bhatt introduced the Bill yesterday."
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Reads like straight from this thread!!!
MeshaVishwas wrote:Government sets stage for integrated military commands,introduces bill for inter-services organisations- ToI
NEW DELHI: Setting the stage for creation of an integrated theatre commands in the country, a bill to empower the government to constitute inter-services organisations and provide disciplinary and administrative powers to their commanders was introduced in Parliament on Wednesday.

The Inter-Services Organisations (Command, Control and Discipline) Bill, 2023, was introduced by junior defence minister Ajay Bhatt amid the din in Lok Sabha.The bill comes ahead of the impending move to establish integrated or joint commands, where all the manpower and assets of the Indian Army, Navy and IAF will be under the operational control of a single three-star general.

The creation of these unified commands was stalled after the country’s first chief of defence staff General Bipin Rawat died in a helicopter crash in December 2021.

With General Anil Chauhan taking over as the next CDS in September last year, they are once again on top of the agenda, as reported by TOI earlier.

The proposed legislation will ensure the requisite command and control of the existing inter-services organisations as well as the proposed integrated theatre commands to be created in the coming months.It will “empower” the commander-in-chief or the officer-in-command of an inter-service organisation to maintain discipline and ensure proper discharge of duties of all the personnel from the army, navy and IAF serving under his command.

At present, military personnel are governed by different acts and rules of their own respective services. These are the Air Force Act, 1950, the Army Act, 1950 and the Navy Act, 1957.“The new bill is an enabling provision for joint services organisations, where personnel from all three services are posted.It will ensure an officer from any one service can now exercise direct command over personnel from the other two services,” an official said.

India currently has only two unified commands, the geographical Andaman and Nicobar Command and the functional Strategic Forces Command to handle the country’s nuclear arsenal, which were set up in 2001 and 2003 after the Kargil conflict with Pakistan in 1999.There are also some tri-service organisations like the Defence Intelligence Agency, Defence Cyber Agency, Defence Space Agency and the Armed Forces Special Operations Division.

In contrast, there are as many as 17 single-service commands (Army 7, IAF 7 and Navy 3), which have little connection in planning and operations as well as command-and-control structures.Consequently, there is the urgent need to build an integrated war-fighting machinery within the budgetary constraints through the creation of the joint commands.China re-organised its 2.3-million People’s Liberation Army into five theatre commands in early 2016 to boost offensive capabilities and establish better command-and-control structures.

Its Western Theatre Command, for instance, handles the entire 3,488-km Line of Actual Control from eastern Ladakh to Arunachal Pradesh.India, in contrast, has four Army and three IAF commands for the `northern borders’ with China.
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New bill tabled to clear decks for theaterisation
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... .html?s=08
16 March 2023
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Full text of the Theaterization Bill 2023

https://prsindia.org/billtrack/the-inte ... -bill-2023

Please read and comment. The full text is in the side box on the right.
The Inter-services Organisations (Command, Control and Discipline) Bill, 2023, was introduced in Lok Sabha on March 15, 2023. It seeks to empower the Commander-in-Chief or Officer-in-Command of Inter-services Organisations to exercise disciplinary or administrative control over the service personnel under their command, irrespective of their service.

Key features of the Bill include:

Inter-services Organisation: Existing Inter-services Organisations will be deemed to have been constituted under the Bill. These include the Andaman and Nicobar Command, the Defence Space Agency, and the National Defence Academy. The central government may constitute an Inter-services Organisation which has personnel belonging to at least two of the three services: the army, the navy, and the air force. These may be placed under the command of an Officer-in-Command. These organisations may also include a Joint Services Command, which may be placed under the command of a Commander-in-Chief.

Control of Inter-services Organisations: Presently, the Commander-in-Chief or Officer-in-Command of Inter-services Organisations are not empowered to exercise disciplinary or administrative powers over the personnel belonging to other services. The Bill empowers the Commander-in-Chief or the Officer-in-Command of an Inter-services Organisation to exercise command and control over the personnel serving in or attached to it. He would be responsible for maintaining discipline and ensuring proper discharge of duties by the service personnel.

The superintendence of an Inter-services Organisation will be vested in the central government. The government may also issue directions to such organisations on grounds of national security, general administration, or public interest.

Other forces under central government: The central government may notify any force raised and maintained in India to which the Bill will apply. This would be in addition to army, navy, and air force personnel.


Commander-in-Chief: The officers eligible to be appointed as the Commander-in-Chief or Officer-in-Command are: (i) a General Officer of the regular Army (above the rank of Brigadier), (ii) a Flag Officer of the Navy (rank of Admiral of the Fleet, Admiral, Vice-Admiral, or Rear-Admiral), or (iii) an Air Officer of the Air Force (above the rank of group captain).

{interesting they are willing to do deep selection wrt airforce and not just the air vice marshal rank and above. Just merit}

He will be empowered to exercise all disciplinary and administrative powers vested in: (i) General Officer Commanding the Army, (ii) Flag Officer Commanding-in-Chief of a Naval Command, (iii) Air Officer Commanding-in-Chief of an Air Command, (iv) any other officer/authority specified in the service Acts, and (v) any other officer/authority notified by the government.

Commanding Officer: The Bill provides for a Commanding Officer who will be in command of a unit, ship, or establishment. The officer will also perform duties assigned by the Commander-in-Chief or Officer-in-Command of the Inter-services Organisation. The Commanding Officer will be empowered to initiate all disciplinary or administrative actions over the personnel appointed, deputed, posted, or attached to that Inter-services Organisation.
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^^
Just a quick skim, but does this mean that GOI as opted for joint commands, not theater commands?
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It is another name as usual. No one but the experts are fooled.
Even police forces can come under theatre commands.
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Per my understanding, the distinction between a joint and a theater command has to do with flexibility of mission assignments to single service formations - under a "Joint" command, the commanders of different component would fight under a joint commander but the units they command would not be fixed to a particular geography and could be redeployed through a central authority of the parent service. The jointness is in planning and conduct of operations. In a theater command, the allocation of forces to a geography becomes more rigid. So a joint command mode would be favored by the AF.
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Dont be hung up on words. Fact IAF appointee officer can be a Group Capt shows all the scrambled eggs are in dustbin.
They can favor all they want.
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^^^
Ramana sir it is above the rank of GP Capt.
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8 Reasons Why Joint Endeavours Remain Elusive
https://www.thecitizen.in/opinion/8-rea ... ive-896607
30 March 2023

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PM Modi to join top military meet, focus on theaterisation
A top military conference, which began in Bhopal on Thursday and will be addressed by Prime Minister Narendra Modi on April 1, will bring into sharp focus India’s renewed push for theaterisation for the best use of its military’s resources to fight future wars, the operational readiness of the armed forces in the backdrop of the lingering border row with China, and the progress in achieving self-reliance in the defence manufacturing sector, officials familiar with the matter said.
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Indian Military Brass Working Methodically To Create Theatre Commands
https://bharatshakti.in/indian-military ... -commands/
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Eye on China, CDS reviews operational situation in east
NEW DELHI: Chief of Defence Staff General Anil Chauhan reviewed the operational preparedness in the eastern sectorover the weekend, amid heightened tensions with China that has seen India shore up defences in the strategically-vulnerable Siliguri Corridor among other measures along the entire frontier.

Gen Chauhan visited ‘forward areas’ in north Bengal and the Hasimara air base, where a squadron of the new Rafale fighters is based, as well as the headquarters of the 33 ‘Trishakti’ Corps at Sukna, where he was briefed on the operational situation along the northern borders in Sikkim, on Saturday and Sunday.

“Accompanied by 33 Corps commander Lt-General V P S Kaushik, the CDS assessed the progress of infrastructure development, operational and logistics preparedness in the region,” an officer said on Sunday.

There are no signs yet of any de-escalation along the 3,488-km LAC, with China relentlessly strengthening its military positions, border infrastructure and air bases facing India. The latest indication of China’s hardened stance came on April 2 when it “standardised” the names of 11 places in Arunachal Pradesh.

A major concern for India in the region is the way the People’s Liberation Army has stepped up its activities and infrastructure development in the Bhutanese territory of Doklam near the Sikkim-Bhutan-Tibet tri-junction.

This underlines the threat to the Siliguri Corridor or ‘Chicken’s Neck’, the narrow strip of land in north Bengal that connects the northeast with the rest of India.
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All the above is fine but tellingly when ever there is something serious we are always scrambling. The Chinese have had us like a cat on hot tin roof for a long time.
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https://twitter.com/HQ_IDS_India/status ... 36417?s=20 ---> General Anil Chauhan, CDS visited North Bengal and @trishakticorps. He interacted with commanders & staff, reviewed infrastructure development and also operational & logistics preparedness of the formation. He complimented @trishakticorps for high morale & professionalism.

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Rakesh wrote: https://twitter.com/HQ_IDS_India/status ... 36417?s=20 ---> General Anil Chauhan, CDS visited North Bengal and @trishakticorps. He interacted with commanders & staff, reviewed infrastructure development and also operational & logistics preparedness of the formation. He complimented @trishakticorps for high morale & professionalism.
I thought I was looking at a Pakistani army top brass get together....50 years ago we would have tarpaulin chairs for briefing the top brass. Now we have.....
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I am sure they can muster a few sofa sets in Sukhna.
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Sofa is there because of CDS.
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Everyone gets sofa in order of priority and demand!!
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VinodTK wrote:Eye on China, CDS reviews operational situation in east
NEW DELHI: Chief of Defence Staff General Anil Chauhan reviewed the operational preparedness in the eastern sectorover the weekend, amid heightened tensions with China that has seen India shore up defences in the strategically-vulnerable Siliguri Corridor among other measures along the entire frontier.

Gen Chauhan visited ‘forward areas’ in north Bengal and the Hasimara air base, where a squadron of the new Rafale fighters is based, as well as the headquarters of the 33 ‘Trishakti’ Corps at Sukna, where he was briefed on the operational situation along the northern borders in Sikkim, on Saturday and Sunday.

“Accompanied by 33 Corps commander Lt-General V P S Kaushik, the CDS assessed the progress of infrastructure development, operational and logistics preparedness in the region,” an officer said on Sunday.

There are no signs yet of any de-escalation along the 3,488-km LAC, with China relentlessly strengthening its military positions, border infrastructure and air bases facing India. The latest indication of China’s hardened stance came on April 2 when it “standardised” the names of 11 places in Arunachal Pradesh.

A major concern for India in the region is the way the People’s Liberation Army has stepped up its activities and infrastructure development in the Bhutanese territory of Doklam near the Sikkim-Bhutan-Tibet tri-junction.

This underlines the threat to the Siliguri Corridor or ‘Chicken’s Neck’, the narrow strip of land in north Bengal that connects the northeast with the rest of India.
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Yes sir quite significant ad the Chinese have been quite busy there which is vexing us. This salami slicing is ongoing. The chinese are trying to create elbow room for themselves.
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CDS calls for building core space capabilities
“Space is being used to enhance combat capabilities in other domains - land, sea, air and even cyber...The military applications of space is the dominant discourse from which we cannot remain divorced,” Chauhan said at the Indian DefSpace Symposium 2023 jointly organised by Indian Space Association (ISpA) and the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).

He said the invasion of the space domain by commercial enterprises as seen during the Russia-Ukraine conflict, and the intense race towards the militarization of space had resulted in expansion of battlespace, with the nature warfare being on the cusp of a major transformation.

“The aim for all of us should be developing dual-use platforms with special focus on incorporating cutting-edge technology and we must expand our NavIC constellation, provide agile space-based ISR (intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance), and ensure secure satellite-assisted communications,” :
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Report :

The military is informed by CDS Chauhan that theatre commands are final

]Gen. Anil Chauhan arrived today to the Southern Army Command's headquarters in Pune to convey the PM's directive and advocate for military theatre commands.

With the three armed services, Gen. Chauhan's task of integration and jointmanship is considered to be a work in progress, with theater command and joint operations expected to be finished within the next two years.

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ramana wrote:Report :

The military is informed by CDS Chauhan that theatre commands are final

Gen. Anil Chauhan arrived today to the Southern Army Command's headquarters in Pune to convey the PM's directive and advocate for military theatre commands.

With the three armed services, Gen. Chauhan's task of integration and jointmanship is considered to be a work in progress, with theater command and joint operations expected to be finished within the next two years.

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should have been done decades ago. The artificially created impasse that had deliberately and opportunistically clogged the system and selectively stymied the decision making process to the detriment of India's supreme national interests.

The artillery guns issue for the IA is a case in point. That was a wilfully created and calculated hurdle with an anti national malice aforethought done with a design to deny specific and vital capabilities to the IA

The many lines of lootyens leverage cultivated over the years of building up the track thoo ecosystems will now weaken or even self destruct. Lots of unhappy and disappointed faces among the BIF embassies and FFNGOs

Analysis and professional discussions apart, "democracy" and "veto" have no part to play in the formulation of defence policies, structuring of the armed forces, as well as, in determining the inter and intra service lines of authority, especially the hardline obstructionist attitude of those legions of MOD babooze who had no dog in the fight but stood to gain from gaming the prevailing system and to this end, they tried to stamp their puppet master authority on the process by suborning some dissatisfied elements.

The babooze selectively backed some of their willing "fellow travelers" among the uniformed brethren to create dissention and mayhem in the uniformed ecosystem, even as they continued to benefit from the loaves and fishes of office in the MOD

Now, anyone needlessly raising their heads to subvert or divert, will personally feel the pain descending on them from on high
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