CDS Appointment & Command Restructuring: News & Discussions

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dinesha wrote:Government set to start process to appoint next CDS soon; Gen MM Naravane frontrunner
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 189797.cms
As mentioned in the above article, I do believe CDS will be from Army only, until theatre commands become operational... Otherwise it may effect the current flow of things...

However, in the below article, the last paragraph is interesting...
dinesha wrote:Process to find Gen. Rawat’s successor as CDS begins, these are the likely options before govt
https://theprint.in/defence/process-to- ... vt/779037/
There is also the possibility of the government roping in a recently retired Service chief, but this would mean a number of rules would have to be changed.
Just wondering if they're considering ACM RKS Bhadauria's name for the CDS post since he retired only one month back...
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How I love to have RKS ji, Tejas will get a bigger boost than before
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It means lack of confidence in existing service chiefs. That's a wrong move.
CDS should be from serving chiefs.
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The Air and Navy C-in-Cs have been promoted just now. They need time to settle down in their new roles.

That leaves only the Army chief Gen Navarane as the frontrunner. As usual the media is speculating. They have no clue what Modi's choice will be.
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ramana wrote:It means lack of confidence in existing service chiefs. That's a wrong move.
CDS should be from serving chiefs.
This is an unexpected situation. Wouldn't it make more sense to make 1 change (new CDS like ACM Bhadauria) rather than promote the current COAS and have to backfill his position?

Plus its not like Gen Navarane won't get his chance. Once the new CDS retires (assuming he is ACM Bhadauria), Gen Navarane will get a 2 year tenure (instead of the 3 he would have gotten if Gen Rawat had completed his term).

My calculations are approx, based on their current ages
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LakshmanPST wrote:...
print and economic times mean that lobbies are already in play.
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Personally I think given the role ACM RKS Bhadauria (Retd) has played with LCA Tejas, he will be very popular with BRF. But lets see what GOI decides.
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Gen MM Naravane will retire in Apr 2022. Which is about 4 months from now. The other two chiefs have just taken over. Moreover Gen Naravane (was the Head of Army Training Command when he published his study) with Gen Bipin Rawat played a critical role in defining the cold start doctrine. He understands the the topic of jointness and the role that theatre commands can play. As such he is a logical choice for the CDS Role. I personally also believe he will be a really good CDS.

The Govt can very well delay the appointment/announcement for the next three months and ensure that the normal succession planning is still implemented.
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I posted on other threads. Next CDS is going to be be a surprise for most of the "experts". Not logical. We need somebody who can stay for few years and complete the job with vigour. It is not going to be the parking slots for almost retiring Gens. With due respect.
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rsingh wrote:I posted on other threads. Next CDS is going to be be a surprise for most of the "experts". Not logical. We need somebody who can stay for few years and complete the job with vigour. It is not going to be the parking slots for almost retiring Gens. With due respect.
"Almost retiring Generals" can serve for longer as CDS. The retirement age for the CDS is 65 while it is 62 for the service chiefs. General Naravane can get a full 3 year term as CDS if appointed before he retires next year.
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Aditya_V wrote:Personally I think given the role ACM RKS Bhadauria (Retd) has played with LCA Tejas, he will be very popular with BRF. But lets see what GOI decides.
+1. Hoping for ACM RKS Bhadauria (Retd) too. Pro indigenisation & theaterisation.

-Ankit
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Ankit Desai wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:Personally I think given the role ACM RKS Bhadauria (Retd) has played with LCA Tejas, he will be very popular with BRF. But lets see what GOI decides.
+1. Hoping for ACM RKS Bhadauria (Retd) too. Pro indigenisation & theaterisation.

-Ankit
He has retired. The next CDS has to be from the serving offers.

If we have a good promotion system and policies have been bedded down then the next CDS will also be pro indeginisation and theaterisation.

Also there is more to being a CDS than indeginisation and theaterisation.
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I don't understand this push for retired officers. CDS has to be from serving officers.
RKS was given an extension to become IAF chief already.
Please be aware of service rules and chain of command.
UPA played havoc with that.

He can join HAL as Director for Tejas and make it happen if he chooses to.

Also have you guys seen his selfies with his son's birthday party in Ambala HAS?
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ramana wrote:I don't understand this push for retired officers. CDS has to be from serving officers.
RKS was given an extension to become IAF chief already.
Please be aware of service rules and chain of command.
UPA played havoc with that.

He can join HAL as Director for Tejas and make it happen if he chooses to.

Also have you guys seen his selfies with his son's birthday party in Ambala HAS?
I agree with your broader point but when it comes to Service/seniority rules and chains the current government has also gone beyond normal procedure

Several times the Modi govt has skipped a more senior officer or multiple officers to make someone a chief.

If the situation demands they won't be stopped by usual norms or unsaid rules.
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This bringing back a recently retired chief is kite flying by coupta and his minions
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I personally believe that the theaterisation of the Indian Armed forces cannot be a executed via Big Bang approach. Perhaps a gentler approach will be to first pluck low hanging fruits like Air defence and Maritime command. Theaterisation of the forces facing China can also be a immediate low hanging fruit. IAF and Army are already working closely in both the Eastern and Ladakh theatre and as such getting agreements in place will be easier. Rest of the sectors can follow once we settle down on these three.
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''He was my Chief'' - A very good thread.

Must read. I had interacted with Gen Rawat many times and endorse everything in this thread. Would request moderators to circulate on all appropriate threads

https://twitter.com/Ak5985965/status/14 ... 3505777669
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The dedicated thread on Gen Rawat would be a good place to post it, Vidur Ji

Not sure but maybe the Twitter poster is a BRF user and he could do it himself..

I have copy-pasted the thread there (Hope that is ok with you and the MODs, else pls. let me know and i will delete it).
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Some views from a recently retired Defence Secretary:

View: Next CDS must keep up Gen Bipin Rawat's reform momentum
While Gen Rawat was at work, many felt his additional responsibilities as the secretary of the Department of Military affairs were affecting his speed. Not that there was anything wrong with the formation of the new department, but the role of CDS is not that of a smug bureaucrat. His control over the three departments of Army, Navy and the Air-Force is a great advantage when path-breaking reforms leading to unification of commands are spearheaded. But the government should have spared some thought to the huge paper work that would burden the CDS. Many subjects which are best handled by the civilian side could have been separated and retained with the defence secretary who currently has much less work . One such example is statutory matters relating to appeals , representations, which are at best handled by the civil service with more detachment.

The CDS could be left with all the relevant subjects which have a bearing on restructuring and operations. There is need for more delegation of powers with most of the drab paper work being left to a special secretary reporting to the CDS. Similarly an autonomous defence procurement agency reporting to the Defence Acquisition Council could handle all the capital and revenue procurements. The government has to be open- minded on this.
What is very interesting is that the IAS clearly would like to reduce the role/powers of the CDS/DMA. History would suggest that the IAS normally gets its way on these matters.
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The last line carries the crux of the article. CDS was trying to rationalise & streamline acquisitions into a whole of armed forces approach rather than a service centric approach.
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eklavya wrote:
Many subjects which are best handled by the civilian side could have been separated and retained with the defence secretary who currently has much less work .
What is very interesting is that the IAS clearly would like to reduce the role/powers of the CDS/DMA. History would suggest that the IAS normally gets its way on these matters.
The words of Sir Humphrey Appleby come to mind. "If decisions are taken at a local level, what happens to us? Much less work, so much less power!"

Watch from 0:57

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Ekalavya please post the full article as it deserves review.
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ramana wrote:Ekalavya please post the full article as it deserves review.
from eklavya ji's post
But the government should have spared some thought to the huge paper work that would burden the CDS. Many subjects which are best handled by the civilian side could have been separated and retained with the defence secretary who currently has much less work . One such example is statutory matters relating to appeals , representations, which are at best handled by the civil service with more detachment.

The CDS could be left with all the relevant subjects which have a bearing on restructuring and operations. There is need for more delegation of powers with most of the drab paper work being left to a special secretary reporting to the CDS. Similarly an autonomous defence procurement agency reporting to the Defence Acquisition Council could handle all the capital and revenue procurements. The government has to be open- minded on this.


The max damage was caused by the babooze who maliciously and repeatedly appealed HC/SC judgments, even in settled cases, intentionally and purposely causing disaffection and angst in the ranks of the services, both serving and retired.

That was how morale was purposely damaged and they did their best to keep the morale low. The babooze reduced hard won perks and a few little privileges that these snakes ensured were tied up in complicated legal knots for decades.

Their fellow "sympathizers", the defence accounts dept babooze were no less driven in their fervent desire to putrefy the system from within.

the babooze want to dominate all the capital and revenue procurements for very obvious reasons and any scandal and blowback will be solely to the account of the uniformed services.

the deep state congi mafia dominated BIF termite cabal is looking for any opportunities to tunnel their way back into a system that is slowly being fumigated and set right.

They got rid of Gen VK Singh, using the combined might of three pillars of democracy, many serving jernails with vested interests and a sly sardar puppet mastered by the mafia + BIF and unkind fate removed CDS Gen Rawat.

so, suddenly the mafia + BIF babooze think that they are back in the game.

it also looks like the babooze and their BIF + mafia masters are pushing for "deep selection of the next CDS" which actually means that a specific personality, far down the in the ranks of the eligibles meets their criteria and is being silently pushed to replace Gen Rawat and that will not be so good for India.

some of this "former defence secretary" guy's pronouncements as ludicrous as they are are laughable.

"a rewarding exercise", he says.

one wonders who is going to be rewarded onlee


The government is of course not new to by-passing seniority in the armed forces as it happened when Gen Rawat was appointed Army chief. It will be a rewarding exercise if a deep selection process is adopted to widen the choice including the re-employment of a retired person with the requisite tri-service experience. The CDS is essentially a planner and this calls for the right intellectual aptitude.
let's wait some few days and see what our naseeb holds for us
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ramana wrote:Ekalavya please post the full article as it deserves review.
As requested, sir:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 216767.cms
View: Next CDS must keep up Gen Bipin Rawat's reform momentum
G. Mohan Kumar

It is difficult to find replacement for someone who called a spade a spade. The government has to do some deep thinking before they appoint a successor to Gen Rawat.

Gen Bipin Rawat made history by becoming the first Chief of Defence Staff of Independent India, invested with the onerous responsibility of reforming and restructuring the armed forces, a task into which he had put his heart and soul. His strong flair for reform came as a breath of fresh air to a domain where status quo was the ruling order.

Faced with a severe financial crunch, he championed the cause of self- reliance and Make in India. But for his enthusiasm, the project for manufacturing the AK-203 rifles in India would not have materialised. It was his assurance that the armed forces would buy this weapon in sufficiently large numbers that gave the initial thrust for launching the project. Equally impressive was his determination to cut flab in the armed forces, to reduce expenditure and locate resources for modernisation . The way he embarked on the task of forming theatre commands and his effort to control the leaping expenditure on pensions were proof of his forthrightness in pushing reforms. He was at it relentlessly and passionately despite the fact that his views often ruffled many feathers- the true hallmark of a reformer.

It is difficult to find replacement for someone who called a spade a spade. The government has to do some deep thinking before they appoint a successor to Gen Rawat. His tenure as CDS being rudely cut short, the reform process which he initiated are at best work in progress and care has to be taken to see that it does not lose its momentum and is taken to its logical end. The very concept of theatre commands have many opponents and lukewarm supporters. Therefore, locating a person with the right aptitude will be crucial.

It will be a mistake if the government treats the post of CDS as one in the natural order of succession, to be filled purely on the basis of seniority. Strong commitment of the prospective incumbent to jointness, tri- service convergence and above all the spirit of reform is a must. A capacity to think above service loyalties and the determination to move ahead even in the teeth of resistance are essential. Tri- service experience in the Integrated defence staff(IDS) will definitely be a great advantage. The intricacies of integration and the challenges of new command structures have to be grappled with.

The government is of course not new to by-passing seniority in the armed forces as it happened when Gen Rawat was appointed Army chief. It will be a rewarding exercise if a deep selection process is adopted to widen the choice including the re-employment of a retired person with the requisite tri-service experience. The CDS is essentially a planner and this calls for the right intellectual aptitude.

While Gen Rawat was at work, many felt his additional responsibilities as the secretary of the Department of Military affairs were affecting his speed. Not that there was anything wrong with the formation of the new department, but the role of CDS is not that of a smug bureaucrat. His control over the three departments of Army, Navy and the Air-Force is a great advantage when path-breaking reforms leading to unification of commands are spearheaded. But the government should have spared some thought to the huge paper work that would burden the CDS. Many subjects which are best handled by the civilian side could have been separated and retained with the defence secretary who currently has much less work . One such example is statutory matters relating to appeals , representations, which are at best handled by the civil service with more detachment.

The CDS could be left with all the relevant subjects which have a bearing on restructuring and operations. There is need for more delegation of powers with most of the drab paper work being left to a special secretary reporting to the CDS. Similarly an autonomous defence procurement agency reporting to the Defence Acquisition Council could handle all the capital and revenue procurements. The government has to be open- minded on this.

The writer is former defence secretary
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^^^^^^^
When needs he must, yet faintly then he praises,
Somewhat the deed, much more the means he raises:
So marreth what he makes, and praising most, dispraises.

— "The Purple Island" by Phineas Fletcher.
It is difficult to find replacement for someone who called a spade a spade. The government has to do some deep thinking before they appoint a successor to Gen Rawat
While Gen Rawat was at work, many felt his additional responsibilities as the secretary of the Department of Military affairs were affecting his speed.

It is indeed ironic that the opinion piece has been written by someone who was trained and also practiced all his working life to divert, distort, delay and deflect and was steeped in the institutionally ingrained and historically ordained colonial culture of never ever calling a spade a spade.

he also exemplifies his service's cardinal principle: An opinion, weakly held, has directionality to hierarchy.
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This is an attempt to take over control back by Civil Service and political executive must slap it down. In fact we have to go in the other direction. My recommendation :

1. Upgrade Lt Gen to Secy GOI and Army Cdrs to Def Secy. Appoint a VCDS from Services who will be of Rank of Army Cdr and be Secy DMA and will report to CDS. CDS will have 02 reports - CISC and VCDS/Secy DMA
2. Appoint another Lt Gen level offr as Secy Dept of Ex Servicemen affairs and post many armed forces, especially war wounded officers in that dept as AS/JS
3. Move more functions of DoD to DMA. Staff DMA more with service officers especially at AS/JS. 75% of both AS and JS must be service officers.
4. Dept of Def Finance also needs a big overhaul
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chetak wrote:
While Gen Rawat was at work, many felt his additional responsibilities as the secretary of the Department of Military affairs were affecting his speed.

It is indeed ironic that the opinion piece has been written by someone who was trained and also practiced all his working life to divert, distort, delay and deflect and was steeped in the institutionally ingrained and historically ordained colonial culture of never ever calling a spade a spade.

he also exemplifies his service's cardinal principle: An opinion, weakly held, has directionality to hierarchy.
CDS - aside from being the obvious tri-service appointment, also achieved the much needed unification of MoD and armed forces - an unadvertised masterstroke by NDA government. This has displaced the civil bureaucracy in the MoD and any opinions thus have to be seen in the light of the angst that brought.

If workload is a concern, then asking the VCDS to be the Secy DMA should be the right way but keeping the dual hat of CDS office is absolutely essential.
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I must commend G Mohan Kumar for showing the public a brilliant example of the Indian bureaucrat's finesse. Must be framed and kept.
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chetak wrote:
The government is of course not new to by-passing seniority in the armed forces as it happened when Gen Rawat was appointed Army chief. It will be a rewarding exercise if a deep selection process is adopted to widen the choice including the re-employment of a retired person with the requisite tri-service experience. The CDS is essentially a planner and this calls for the right intellectual aptitude.
Is there is a way to rebut this nonsense....I dont know who G Mohan is but he has it wrong. A CDS is a first and foremost, a leader..... of leaders (among the defence services, of course), and to call a such a position of leadership 'essentially a planner' shows a total lack of knowledge about this position, to say the least. (ha...just noticed the reference to 'retired person'. So there is a candidate in mind).
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SriKumar wrote:
chetak wrote:
The government is of course not new to by-passing seniority in the armed forces as it happened when Gen Rawat was appointed Army chief. It will be a rewarding exercise if a deep selection process is adopted to widen the choice including the re-employment of a retired person with the requisite tri-service experience. The CDS is essentially a planner and this calls for the right intellectual aptitude.
Is there is a way to rebut this nonsense....I dont know who G Mohan is but he has it wrong. A CDS is a first and foremost, a leader..... of leaders (among the defence services, of course), and to call a such a position of leadership 'essentially a planner' shows a total lack of knowledge about this position, to say the least. (ha...just noticed the reference to 'retired person'. So there is a candidate in mind).
the entire cheeni confrontation starting from doklam to ladakh has shown the babooze in a different light as they were, for decades past discussing border issues with the cheeni without knowing the lay of the land, or having any idea of the strategic or tactical issues involved. These border issue discussions were mostly MEA led.

doklam and ladakh shocked the politicos and brought home the very painful fact that much Indian land had been foolishly gifted away to the cheeni by the babooze because, like chamberlain and hitler, the MEA babooze kowtowed to the cheeni in their single point and grossly misguided pursuit of peace at all costs syndrome endorsed by the commie influenced congis and the BIF led, MOU signing, eyetalian mafia.

The entry of the professional, no nonsense IA guys into the negotiation process shocked, dismayed, and completely frustrated the cheenis as well as the BIF led eyetalian mafia which met secretly with the cheeni ambassador over ching chong noodles in some 5 star hotel .

Every border discussion started with a mandatory and authenticated map and every feature on the map, relevant to us, was hotly contested and wrested or, at times, just quietly occupied overnight to create a fait accompli and very little was actually conceded on the ground, to the cheeni, by the IA while IA troops held firm in their positions even while reinforcing their supply lines.

The IA hasn't backed down and nor will they do so in the future.

xi and his "little emperrors" PLA are essentially up the creek without the proverbial paddle

The babooze have been shown their aukat and the damage done in the decades past is incalculable, both with the pakis and the cheenis

dinosaur darbaris like shiv shankar menon are still, even today, singing cheeni praises in mellifluous mandarin because old habits die hard.

let's hope that it is the congi swan song onlee
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SriKumar wrote:
chetak wrote:
The government is of course not new to by-passing seniority in the armed forces as it happened when Gen Rawat was appointed Army chief. It will be a rewarding exercise if a deep selection process is adopted to widen the choice including the re-employment of a retired person with the requisite tri-service experience. The CDS is essentially a planner and this calls for the right intellectual aptitude.
Is there is a way to rebut this nonsense....I dont know who G Mohan is but he has it wrong. A CDS is a first and foremost, a leader..... of leaders (among the defence services, of course), and to call a such a position of leadership 'essentially a planner' shows a total lack of knowledge about this position, to say the least. (ha...just noticed the reference to 'retired person'. So there is a candidate in mind).
So what does a leader do?
You want the CDS to be just a figurehead?
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ks_sachin wrote:
SriKumar wrote: Is there is a way to rebut this nonsense....I dont know who G Mohan is but he has it wrong. A CDS is a first and foremost, a leader..... of leaders (among the defence services, of course), and to call a such a position of leadership 'essentially a planner' shows a total lack of knowledge about this position, to say the least. (ha...just noticed the reference to 'retired person'. So there is a candidate in mind).
So what does a leader do?
You want the CDS to be just a figurehead?
whom are you addressing, ks_sachin ji
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In my dream last night I saw Lt General Y. K Joshi, I wonder why?
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ks_sachin wrote:
SriKumar wrote: Is there is a way to rebut this nonsense....I dont know who G Mohan is but he has it wrong. A CDS is a first and foremost, a leader..... of leaders (among the defence services, of course), and to call a such a position of leadership 'essentially a planner' shows a total lack of knowledge about this position, to say the least. (ha...just noticed the reference to 'retired person'. So there is a candidate in mind).
You want the CDS to be just a figurehead?
Negative.
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Vidur wrote:I must commend G Mohan Kumar for showing the public a brilliant example of the Indian bureaucrat's finesse. Must be framed and kept.
Vidurji, Bolne do. The bile and inner Appleby is coming out.
MoD was useless due to such IAS caterpillars.
NaMo showed how to handle such folks during pandemic.
The worst insult to an an advisor is to ignore them.

Deep condolences for Gen Rawat's demise.
We lost a great leader and opportunity.
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Re: CDS Appointment & Command Restructuring: News & Discussions

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Suresh S wrote:In my dream last night I saw Lt General Y. K Joshi, I wonder why?
He needs to be Eastern Theatre Commander.
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chetak wrote:
ks_sachin wrote: So what does a leader do?
You want the CDS to be just a figurehead?
whom are you addressing, ks_sachin ji
Mohan Kumar. Not anyone in here.
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Vidur wrote:This is an attempt to take over control back by Civil Service and political executive must slap it down. In fact we have to go in the other direction. My recommendation :

1. Upgrade Lt Gen to Secy GOI and Army Cdrs to Def Secy. Appoint a VCDS from Services who will be of Rank of Army Cdr and be Secy DMA and will report to CDS. CDS will have 02 reports - CISC and VCDS/Secy DMA
2. Appoint another Lt Gen level offr as Secy Dept of Ex Servicemen affairs and post many armed forces, especially war wounded officers in that dept as AS/JS
3. Move more functions of DoD to DMA. Staff DMA more with service officers especially at AS/JS. 75% of both AS and JS must be service officers.
4. Dept of Def Finance also needs a big overhaul
Agreed. Looks like Civil Service is an uncivil opportunity in the chaos after Gen Rawat's demise. They are striking back via opens and encouraging Coupta nonsense.
The reform of MoD is not complete with such efforts to undermine them.
Am sure it's noted.
Mohan Kumar types are hidden mace navel gazers.
Will give advice that leads to your own destruction.
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Re: CDS Appointment & Command Restructuring: News & Discussions

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chetak wrote:
ks_sachin wrote: So what does a leader do?
You want the CDS to be just a figurehead?
whom are you addressing, ks_sachin ji
SriKumar.

My point with where this thread is going is that we are throwing out the baby with the bath water.
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