India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

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Cyrano wrote: There are so many places across the 3000Km frontier to choose from, where should India make a counter move? :)
And then there is the IOR. lots of options.
titash wrote:You need a bit more than mindset. You need some laws-of-physics bending to achieve a Shaurya launch from a Su-30

The BrahMos is < 3 tons. The Shaurya is > 6 tons. No pylon in the IAF's inventory can lug a 6 ton missile around
Heh. Apart from the mki/shaurya bit, I don't see why an mki/bmos might not do the trick? Air launched, the missile should have plenty of range. There was talk of an 800km version too! Would be nice to get the nirbhay up and running though.
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Rohit Great time-line.
#32 is very true. I realized quite soon after Galwan.
#47 too will not happen due to the balance of forces and logistics.

Have you thought of a YouTube talk in the 49 points?
Thanks.
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Guys before giving suggestions please learn about weapon systems capabilitiies..
It's embarrassing for old timers too give useless ideas.
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https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/148 ... 74560?s=20 ---> China is not really faced with a 2-front situation given the absence of an Asian NATO. Rather, given overall capacity, they seek to keep the enemy on either front on the defensive, while retaining the option of escalating on the side that is deemed more conducive to an offensive.

https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/148 ... 30081?s=20 ---> Which is why unless there is a hard mutual defence alliance in Asia, which for one reason or the other (chiefly due to America's tendency to manipulate the same in a certain direction) hasn't come to pass, China will think it can get away with an aggressive posture.

https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/148 ... 71426?s=20 ---> America could not prevent Bangladesh from coming into being. Its interventions in Vietnam & Afghanistan mostly served to line the pockets of its defence contractors, & Iran remains the key player in Iraq. So, whoever thought COMCASA was a great idea was ... er... well.

https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/148 ... 91008?s=20 ---> The Russkis, meanwhile, have been letting their 'friends and allies' stew as a means of showing that the Kremlin is still useful. India has to stop yo-yoing between the top 2 arms merchants and really move forward on arms indigenization. While, boosting its nuclear prowess.

https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/148 ... 58471?s=20 ---> Vietnam can serve as a steady market for the Indian defence industry with an accent towards 'joint projects' as time goes by rather than just outright sales. However, as yet another 'business minded' East Asian autocracy it is not likely to posit itself as another Pakistan.

https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/148 ... 30210?s=20 ---> Of course, the Pakistani generals are also business oriented. It is just that Pakistan's comparative and competitive advantages are different from that of Vietnam's. He he.
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Strategy should be left to strategists.
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Great Analysis Rohit.

The video on the Chinese bridge in Pangong Tso was also very good. This is excellent stuff..
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My understanding from Rohit's analysis:

a. Its now a weapons and infra game. Chinese will initiate a limited war the moment Chinese achieve enough superiority to delivery a short victory they can hold to.
1. India can deny this and prolong Chinese move by not allowing the capability gap to widen enough to make Chinese comfortable.
2. Build offensive counter strategies which will lead to India clinching Chinese territory at other places where India has an edge.

Chinese know about #2 and they will build superiority across the sector and capabilities to rapidly move troops across the entire LAC. China will have to build massively in this sector. If they do so it would be clear indicator of coming war.
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The chinis will most probably come with an excuse and initiate a 24 to 36 hrs localised throw the kitchen sink ops on a high visibility position.

And immediately call for a ceasefire.. They know our leaders are suckers for ceasefire. A miniature version of 62.

The CCP have created the superiority complex among their population against us. Coupled with the jokers on the western borders, who have a similar setup. The 2 make for perfect playmate.

There could be a joint, 2 front very short, high visibility op. Chinis & Pak both would like another Feb 27 style tv drama.
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titash wrote:You need a bit more than mindset. You need some laws-of-physics bending to achieve a Shaurya launch from a Su-30

The BrahMos is < 3 tons. The Shaurya is > 6 tons. No pylon in the IAF's inventory can lug a 6 ton missile around
Okay, then sorry, my bad on the specific weapon, we have to go with an SSM. But I stand by what I said about the mindset.
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If PLA captures any land, India will not accept cease-fire. If PLA does not capture any land - India is free to retaliate at a place of their choice for some counter optics and still declare victory before cease-fire.
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India too is building the infrastructure on the eastern front in Ladakh and the NE at a pace never seen before. Over the next 3-4 years, India too will be in a much better state to bring numbers to the borders. The chinese are building at perhaps at an even faster rate and already have decent infra on their side at several places. The main problem for the Chinese is that the bulk of their forces are still far and staging all the additional man power close to the borders would be difficult. The terrain and the weather conditions are just too harsh for large scale prolonged deployment.
They can bring in the forces much quicker that we can, but if we force to them to stay put for a long time, as is happening now, then it is not in their favour.
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It is difficult for China to create a disproportionate disparity now. We may not be equal equal, but we are no Paki either. India is percieved as underdog and Hans will need to do much more to show a decisive victory. That time will never come now.
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The gap bw India and China will continue to increase atleast for sometime till 2 things happen. & they will happen.
#1 The already visible cracks in the Chinese economy shrink its capital investment budget where we start seeing visible thinning of chinese inventment in defence equipment manufacturing numbers

#2 The phase of chinese cut, copy, paste defence products starts to wane (their gradual isolation reducing their copy & stealing ability) and their defense equipment weaknesses start leaking out (further reading: China's debt problem https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/29/china-e ... grown.html )

Most Chinese indigenisation program have already bore fruit. Indian programs will start to show results soon (look at helicopter program, missile program). [ PS: But ofcourse you have to place order for indigenous LCH. :( ]
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Going by how China has done so far since the issue began in 2020, I don't think they initially came for anything more than a land grab and go one up on India. After Galvan happened, they simply squat on different points and then dared us to start / initiate the escalation. When Aug 29/30 happened they didn't find any moves on the chess board and withdrew from the Finger areas but kept the pot on boil at other locations. If China wanted to escalate, it could have done a lot better by now. Having said that, China has learnt the lesson that its troops are not a match at this juncture to IA. It will stay there to build on the endurance of its troops and they will build all possible infrastructure 25-50 kms behind these friction points or all along the LAC. This is how far they will go in the near future. We should really understand what events (types of events) that triggered the 1962 war and see if we can draw a parallel to that in 2020-22 terms and identify the geo-political events that can trigger any real action from China. That said, China will want us to spend more on our IA / IAF than our IN and for that will keep us engaged in such actions till they reach their vision for PLAN. The key for our Armed forces and the government in general is to not deprive our IN at the expense of IA / IAF and instead spend more to attain the strategic / tactical deterrence with IN and focus on our Rocket / Missile force & Air Defense commands, to increase the cost of war on China, to deter it from any further escalation.
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CalvinH wrote:My understanding from Rohit's analysis:

a. Its now a weapons and infra game. Chinese will initiate a limited war the moment Chinese achieve enough superiority to delivery a short victory they can hold to.
1. India can deny this and prolong Chinese move by not allowing the capability gap to widen enough to make Chinese comfortable.
2. Build offensive counter strategies which will lead to India clinching Chinese territory at other places where India has an edge.

Chinese know about #2 and they will build superiority across the sector and capabilities to rapidly move troops across the entire LAC. China will have to build massively in this sector. If they do so it would be clear indicator of coming war.
one area i have some concerns. Our artillery situation has not gone up significantly. ATAGS has not seen much of progress on future orders. Beyond M777, K9 and Sharang upgrades we haven't seen much. Dhanush, ATAGS which were critical to FARP haven't seen much beyond trials. Now ATAGS is almost on verge of seeing Arjun saga for ATHOS. We can see through Paxtan with our current lot, but I think with a resourceful and rich enemy like China it might be a tricky situation. A good enough weapon might be effective than than a non existent perfect weapon.
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Only one thing stands in way of ATAGS going Arjun, vociferous jingo junta on social media (MoD Baboons, GoI isnt coming to rescue, atleast for now). If that clamour rises beyond a point, IA wont be able to pull an arjun on ATAGS. I hope the clamour rises and doesnt cools off.
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so the 14th round of military talks is scheduled for January 12, going to be regarding the Hot Springs area. Although an agreement to completely disengage in that area had been reached during the 12th round, on the ground dis-engagement was not completed. And to no one's surprise, Depsang will not be on the agenda. "Legacy" issues , as Depsang is being called, will be addressed at some future unknown time

India-China Talks Tomorrow to Focus on Establishing Confidence Ahead of Summers in Eastern Ladakh

And it looks like India is pushing back against Uncle Putin trying to mediate in the India China friction. There have been a lot of trial balloons floated a by the Russian side about a Modi-Xi-Putin trilateral summit. But this article appears to push back against any such notion. It would have been surprising if this trilateral summit was India's idea since India has consistently refused third party mediation to settle it's border disputes including with Pakistan.

India against third-party mediation in talks with China, military on alert ‘for any eventuality’
New Delhi: Contrary to speculation, India is not seeking any third-party mediation in peace talks with China, both at the diplomatic and political level, government sources said Saturday, adding that it is totally against any such step.

“We have made it clear to all relevant parties that we are not for any kind of third-party intervention. That has been our consistent stand,” a government source told ThePrint.
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Chinese economic issues will not have any impact. There is a chance that they may have a opposite impact where CCP tries to divert attention from their worsening economy.

China has a very large Military budget and no accountability on military spent. They can divert as much money as they want to the cause, shape of the economy notwithstanding. The only thing that has changed is probably their capacity to tolerate number of Chinese killed or taken prisoner. Again not because they care but because it doesn't make for good optics for a wannabe super power.
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Ldev, After Pangang Tso disengagement it was mutually agreed that each area will be individually negotiated.
India's minimum position is status quo ante April 2020.
China keeps bring trade pacts.
From this China's minimum position is status quo ante 2008 when Rahul Gandhi basically signed Bakasura Agreement or Beijing Accord.
The agreement unstated result is China gets market access to India at a trade surplus of $50B/year. In return PRC halts salamislicing.

PRC wanted to test. NaMo after 2014 and made a series of encroachments despite the trade surplus. It took sometime to get to grips at the nature of the dragon.
Post Galwan the trade sanctions etc tore up the Bakasura Agreement.
However trade is around $100B now.
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ramana wrote:Ldev, After Pangang Tso disengagement it was mutually agreed that each area will be individually negotiated.
India's minimum position is status quo ante April 2020.
China keeps bring trade pacts.
From this China's minimum position is status quo ante 2008 when Rahul Gandhi basically signed Bakasura Agreement or Beijing Accord.
The agreement unstated result is China gets market access to India at a trade surplus of $50B/year. In return PRC halts salamislicing.

PRC wanted to test. NaMo after 2014 and made a series of encroachments despite the trade surplus.
It took sometime to get to grips at the nature of the dragon.
Post Galwan the trade sanctions etc tore up the Bakasura Agreement.
However trade is around $100B now.
Thanks ramana, very interesting. By coincidence, less than 24 hours ago I came across the article linked below and I was wondering about the connection between this obscure article on India China trade at this particular time and the tensions at the border. So it looks like trade talks are proceeding and are in fact linked to the border issues.

Government mulls easing curbs on some Chinese investment, sources say
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It makes it sound that Indian companies are desperate for Chinese money. In fact Chinese need sound equities in which to invest.

Or they can invest in Evergrande and the other inflated, rickety financials. Bullet trains anyone? Housing? Roads to no where, banks?
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LDev, Thanks. It confirms my thinking that border row is linked to Indian market access.
It is only being considered so far.

Easing issues with India reduces "China's troubles without!"
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CalvinH wrote:Chinese economic issues will not have any impact. There is a chance that they may have a opposite impact where CCP tries to divert attention from their worsening economy.

China has a very large Military budget and no accountability on military spent. They can divert as much money as they want to the cause, shape of the economy notwithstanding. The only thing that has changed is probably their capacity to tolerate number of Chinese killed or taken prisoner. Again not because they care but because it doesn't make for good optics for a wannabe super power.
I, somewhat agree with this argument. Military spending especially if equipment is indigenously manufactured actually helps get through the downturn and alleviate lack of demand for manufactured goods to some extent.
This would however hold true if downturn is not that serious that it destabilizes the industrial base and impedes ability to produce goods in some way.
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China getting takleef over General Naravane's comments. Guess the victorious bit pricked their conscious :mrgreen:

Hope 'relevant people' will refrain from making 'unconstructive comments'; China on Naravane's remarks
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 876793.cms
12 Jan 2022
In his press conference on Wednesday ahead of the Army Day on January 15, Gen Naravane also said that war or conflict is always an "instrument of last resort" but if it is thrust upon India, then the country will come out victorious.
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However, this part is true. And it causes takleef for the truth in that statement.
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India-China trade grows to record $125 billion in 2021 despite tensions in eastern Ladakh
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 900383.cms
14 Jan 2022
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Rakesh wrote:India-China trade grows to record $125 billion in 2021 despite tensions in eastern Ladakh
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 0383.cms14 Jan 2022
China's exports to India from January to December rose 46.2 per cent to USD 97.52 billion.
Looks like a one-sided increase. The Chinese are making sure that Indian consumers are addicted to the chini products before they threaten to pull the plug. This is what happened to the US consumers who got addicted to low-cost (and poor quality) crap that the chinis had to sell.
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The deficit is not bad. This imbalance will continue till Indian mfg picks up.
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atmanirbharta takes time to reach, so the increase isn't unexpected. Depending on which sectors caused the increase in imbalance, it could very well be a sign of indian value manufacturing heating up as the industries invest in capital assets and machinery, which is an excellent sign for the economy and trade balance in the medium-to-long term
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Rakesh wrote:China getting takleef over General Naravane's comments. Guess the victorious bit pricked their conscious :mrgreen:

Hope 'relevant people' will refrain from making 'unconstructive comments'; China on Naravane's remarks
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 876793.cms
12 Jan 2022
In his press conference on Wednesday ahead of the Army Day on January 15, Gen Naravane also said that war or conflict is always an "instrument of last resort" but if it is thrust upon India, then the country will come out victorious.
Until there is a reciprocal agreement, publication of all official and unofficial chinese statements need to be banned in India, ie until somebody can show me so much as a single chinese media channel publishing a statement made by the Government Of The Republic Of India.
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https://twitter.com/Aditya_G_Social/sta ... 65601?s=20 ---> Significant - LCVPs now deployed with Indian Army in Pangong Lake area for amphibious operations.

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India's desire for peace is born out of strength, should not mistaken otherwise: Army Chief
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 904371.cms
14 Jan 2022

Won't let any attempt to change status quo along India's border, says Army Chief
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 916587.cms
15 Jan 2022
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Lisa wrote:Until there is a reciprocal agreement, publication of all official and unofficial chinese statements need to be banned in India, ie until somebody can show me so much as a single chinese media channel publishing a statement made by the Government Of The Republic Of India.
I'm not too concerned by this, Lisa... we are a strong enough nation to be able to read a few badly written ham-fisted attempts at scare-tactics that call themselves (un)official statements. Unlike our thin-skinned neighbours to the North, who faint like characters in an 18th century Victorian movie every time a fauji sneezes in the general direction of Tibet.
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Rakesh wrote:https://twitter.com/Aditya_G_Social/sta ... 65601?s=20 ---> Significant - LCVPs now deployed with Indian Army in Pangong Lake area for amphibious operations.
here is the video. @ 1:06 Krestel in Pangong Tso

https://twitter.com/sneheshphilip/statu ... yV_JEpAAAA
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What is the estimated PLA casualties from the blizzard? Didn't read that report anywhere.
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https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/opinion/ ... hp&pc=U531

This article says that 2 out of the 3 generals who have held charge in the area also died, possibly due to the high altitude and weather related issues after retiring. Article by Maj Gen (Retd) Ashok Kumar.
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Lot of 'doubting Thomases' said nothing will happen, but problems at 5 friction points solved, says General MM Naravane
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 001302.cms
19 Jan 2022
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mody wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/opinion/ ... hp&pc=U531

This article says that 2 out of the 3 generals who have held charge in the area also died, possibly due to the high altitude and weather related issues after retiring. Article by Maj Gen (Retd) Ashok Kumar.
High altitude deployment without acclimatization causes lung failure. I knew a late AMC Brigadier who was basically on oxygen support after his retirement in US.
He used to tell us about the high-altitude lung symptoms.
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