Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 23 March 2021

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https://twitter.com/alpha_defense/statu ... 0JeFqBQZvA ---> MoD, Government of India, intends to procure 98 sets of Gen-III (NVGs) and associated equipment for C-17 Globemaster-III aircraft of IAF and AH-64E(I) Apache attack helicopters of IAF and IA (30 + 53 +15).
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https://twitter.com/TheLegateIN/status/ ... 0JeFqBQZvA ---> IAF to start inducting C-295MW transport aircraft from next year.
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Cain Marko wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:TFTA, hindu hatred means they will fight hard, manpads and ATGM will be there for quite a bit of time.
They may have a lot of hatred, but that doesn't always translate into "fight hard". We all saw how the haters fought in 1971. Not much stomach for fighting in these hateful types imho.
Wherever there was good leadership they seems to have acquitted themselves well enough in those engagements. We under estimate anyone at our own peril.
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Rakesh wrote: https://twitter.com/TheLegateIN/status/ ... 0JeFqBQZvA ---> IAF to start inducting C-295MW transport aircraft from next year.
Are we seeing any discussions in the IAF or the MOD about increasing the orders for the aircraft as AN-32 replacement?

Because post the Ukrainian war, we don't know if Ukraine will be in a position to supply spares to India or even if they will want to supply spares to India.
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I am waiting for news reports of MoD low balling the seller to get these six used B-767s. Will offer $1 per plane and then act aghast when it goes higher than that. Nostalgia from the Qatari Mirage 2000 episode. Waste the next 5 to 10 years shopping for cheap B-767s.

https://twitter.com/defencecore/status/ ... vBALDrTW8A ----> HAL to float a global tender for the purchase of 6 used B-767s from the market & will convert these Boeing-767 civilian aircraft into mid-air refuelers for the Indian Air Force (IAF), for which it has entered into an agreement with Israel's IAI.
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FWIW https://twitter.com/TheLegateIN/status/ ... YrxxSWeQwg
Report: Astra Mk-I missile is too bulky and the IAF wants the missile’s weight reduced by 50 kilograms, as per an IAF official quoted in the report.
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Someone should do a weight comparison of
R-77, AMRAAM, Derby, Astra Mk1, Meteor

By asking for 50 kg weight reduction essentially IAF is asking for redesign as the missile is ready to go into production.
Ten years of trials on Su-30MKI were completed without this.
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again the same merry go around!!
How many times will the nation be fooled? Is there no consequence of these sabotages?
Does the pilot has to carry this weight on his head or shoulder that 50 KG bother them? If Sukhoi can carry 2500 kg Brahmos, what up with 200+-50 kg air to air missile? Next time will the excuse for rejecting be, that it is made by workers who do not speak perfect grammatical English?

I am only hoping that this news is wrong, or GOI should reject the recommendation with contempt. Or better say you have to take 1000s number, and as mk2, we will improve it. Or ask IAF to fix responsibility within their rank, that why this requirement was missed when the missile was undergoing tests, and fire all involved party. Or do all of these.

Again as always, I am not saying this is because someone is trying to take a bribe, it does not happen in IAF.
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For instance, Astra Mk1's weight is 154 Kg
R-77 which it replaces is 190 kg
AMRAAM is 152+23 = 175 kg

It's usually wheeled in on a dolly.
It's not like this officer carries it in a backpack.
And weighs less than contemporary missiles.
If he feels strongly he should go public and not hide under anonymity.
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This person should be identified and made to carry an inert Astra for the rest of his tenure.
Or if he prefers imports to carry an inert R-77.

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Data on missiles - Not all missiles are the same. The more range ones tend to be heavier. Some have bigger warheads for better kill radius. Data from wiki. If you see, Astra is not too bad. The lighter missiles have lower range. The same range ones have almost similar weight. Unless, IAF is trying to fool someone and want mica weight but double the range from Astra.

Astra
Mass 154 kg (340 lb)
Length 3.84 m (12.6 ft)
Diameter 178 mm (7.0 in)
Warhead High-explosive pre-fragmented HMX/PU[1]
Warhead weight 15 kg (33 lb)
Astra Mk.1: 110 km (68 mi)

R-77
Mass 175 kg (R-77), 190 kg (R-77-1)
Length 3.6 m (R-77), 3.71 m (R-77-1)
Diameter 200 mm
Warhead 22.5 kg HE fragmenting (R-77)
R-77, RVV-AE: 80 kilometres (50 mi)[1][2]
R-77-1, RVV-SD: 110 kilometres (68 mi)[3][4]

mica -
Mass 112 kg[1]
Length 3.1 m[1]
Diameter 160 mm[1]
Warhead 12 kg warhead[1]
Operational
range
Air-launched: 500 m–60 km [2][3][4]

Derby

The Derby missile
Also known as the Alto, the Derby missile is a BVR, medium-range (~50 km) active radar homing missile. Though technically not part of the "Python" family, the missile is an enlarged version of the Python-4 with an active-radar seeker.[15]

Derby
Length: 362 cm
Span: 64 cm
Diameter: 16 cm
Weight: 118 kg
Guidance: Active Radar
Warhead: 23 kg
Range: 50 km

Derby ER
range 100 km NO OTHER DATA available

Meteor
Mass 190 kg (419 lb)[2]
Length 3.65 m (12 ft 0 in)[3]
Diameter 0.178 m (7.0 in)
Warhead High explosive blast-fragmentation
Operational
range
Maximum Range 200 km (110 nmi)[4]
No Escape Zone 60 km (32 nmi)[5]

AIM-120 AMRAAM

Mass 335 lb (152 kg)
Length 12 ft (3.7 m)
Diameter 7 in (180 mm)
Warhead High explosive blast-fragmentation
• AIM-120A/B: WDU-33/B, 50 pounds (22.7 kg)
• AIM-120C-5: WDU-41/B, 40 pounds (18.1 kg)
Operational
range
• AIM-120A/B: 55–75 km (30–40 nmi)[4][5]
• AIM-120C-5: >105 km (>57 nmi)[6]
• AIM-120D : >160 km (>86 nmi)[7
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ramana wrote:FWIW https://twitter.com/TheLegateIN/status/ ... YrxxSWeQwg
Report: Astra Mk-I missile is too bulky and the IAF wants the missile’s weight reduced by 50 kilograms, as per an IAF official quoted in the report.
Should be light enough and small enough to keep it under the seat, and for someone to open the window in a fighter and throw the missile at the enemy. Should be catapult launchable from the ground, to serve as Air defense. Also should cost Rs 10, with 100% indigenous components.

The good news is that the contract has been signed, so more idiocy like this will come to an end.
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I found the article from where Wolfpack made the tweet. I have been advised that it is a malicious article to peddle foreign maal. If you read the entire article, it will be easy to figure out who is getting the takleef with the Astra induction.

Take a look at the article. It has quotes lifted off a MoD press release, then quotes some unnamed officials and has some open source stats on the missile. The author has compiled all that and wrote up an article.

Not a single news worthy claim in the article is backed by an identifiable person. Every claim in the article below states officials speaking on condition of anonymity. My source, speaking on condition of anonymity, states that the Pakistan Air Force now operates the F-35. Start your dhoti shivering. See how easy this is? Any fool can write an article and say anything. Integrity and ethics in the media has long gone out the window.

India orders Astra weapon in move to break dependence on foreign missiles
https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia ... -missiles/
02 June 2022
However, An Air Force official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the press :lol:, said Astra MK-1 can only achieve an operational range of up to 60 kilometers and is too bulky. The Air Force wants the missile’s weight reduced by 50 kilograms, he added.
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Anujan wrote:The good news is that the contract has been signed, so more idiocy like this will come to an end.
It will only intensify Saar.
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I read through the nandi dropping masquerading as defence reporting

One lungi dance moment?
Under the contract, Bharat Dynamics will supply about 400 Astra MK-I missiles and associated equipment, to be delivered in four years for the Air Force and Navy for use on Su-30MKI, LCA-MK and MiG-29K aircraft.
We thought it was only 248, if it is 400, then it is an auspicious beginning. Remember Akash too had a lot of complaints (It is command guided, wont work if the radar is bombed) ityadi. Now over 2000 have been delivered and it has been iteratively improved with two improved variants. I am hoping for the same for Astra too.

To save everyone the trouble, I have summarized the rest of the article
Astra is short, thin, has dark paint, and the nuts and bolts use vanaspati and other plant based products for lubrication in their ball bearings. Foreign missiles are longer, thicker, have lighter colored paint and use animal fat for lubrication in their ball bearings. Sources say that 8 Astras are need to create the same damage as 1 foreign missile.
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Anujan, the 248 was LSP to setup production run. $424M for 400 is great price of ~$1M/missile.

Two comments.
The DRDO is quoting head on range (100km) and the IAF tail chase (60km).
The 50kg is most likely for Mk2 which is still in development.
However IAF should give direct feedback and not through foreign defence media.

Am sure the new CDS will crackdown.
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Guys, this could just be psy ops from the IAF official. Because once the service get's behind any weapon they also take ownership of the weapon.

If they were not happy with it. We would have seen whispering about it long before this stage.
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+1
I agree. As far as Astra is concerned IAF seems to be firmly behind it. IIRC, the testing phase itself was modified to include user so as to decrease the number of user trials necessary for certification.
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Anujan wrote:To save everyone the trouble, I have summarized the rest of the article.
Bingo. You hit the nail on the head.
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My take is that it may not be even IAF, but some jholawalas playing their own dirty trick. When was journalism fair and patriotic in India?
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fanne wrote:My take is that it may not be even IAF, but some jholawalas playing their own dirty trick. When was journalism fair and patriotic in India?
Where and when has it been fair anywhere in the world?
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In our case, it is worst. It was a continuation of imperialism by other means, including divide and support foreign religions/culture and rule. It is not only divide and rule, it is partial truth (or a lie). The british approach always was to divide, support the smaller group (see reference, done throughout history) (which was not Hindus) and rule. They played that role in many countries in Africa (google it, I have put one link below), where they supported 20% of the smaller group to suppress 80% of the bigger group. Many current conflicts/civil wars can be traced to that.

the newspapers (like TOI), before independence supported British, the same owner/establishment would not have just changed their moral compass on 15th Aug 1947 and become pro India. If you look most of these newspapers have continued, where as paper by freedom fighters have all long closed.

So our problem is not a problem of left lib gang vs Right (which you see play in US and Europe). Our problem is the majority of this medium is unpatriotic still (the older generation recruited people like them, as you see in the justice system as well, most new judges are relative of old judges). On top of it it has layer of Left Lib. So while Left Lib in west may hate Trump, they may not oppose US being strong or spending more on arms, while in India, they oppose India being strong, because their DNA is anti-national. Then they have inherited the British policy of divide and appose the majority and ridicule them.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_an ... 20by%20B.N.
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ramana wrote:Anujan, the 248 was LSP to setup production run. $424M for 400 is great price of ~$1M/missile.
This point is not 100% clear from news reporting.

All the 248 related articles mention "will procure", "will order".

The current news seems to be contract signing with BDL for actual production. So it was not clear if the contract signing was for "will order" part, or is an entirely new order. Also this is the only article that mentions 400, all other articles only mentioned that the contract was signed.

I am hoping it is 248 + 400.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ ... 480432.ece
The Defence Ministry on Tuesday signed a contract with defence public sector undertaking Bharat Dynamics Limited (BDL) for supply of the indigenously developed Astra Mk-I Beyond Visual Range (BVR) air to air missiles and associated equipment for the Indian Air Force (IAF) and the Navy at a cost of ₹2,971 Crore......In July 2020, the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) headed by Union Defence Minister Rajnath Singh had approved the purchase of 248 Astra-MK1 missiles, of which 200 are meant for the IAF and 48 for the Navy.
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Also no point speculating on who is to blame for the hit job of an article. I have decided to ignore such BP raising articles. It could have very well gone down this way
reporter: What do you think of astra missle?
Officer: It is good, the future version which is longer range and 50kgs less weight will help us outrange the Pakis
Reporter: AIR FORCE OFFICER SAYS CURRENT ASTRA IS A DUD, WILL BE BETTER ONLY IF RANGE IS IMPROVED AND WEIGHT IS REDUCED!!!!!
The point is, it takes a lot of time for development, integration, captive trials, firing trials, contract negotiation, production setup, quality control, user trials...if Astra has cleared all of this, then projects like these have their own momentum. The motivation to tear it all down to replace it with some foreign maal reduces across the board.
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Anujan wrote:
reporter: What do you think of astra missle?
Officer: It is good, the future version which is longer range and 50kgs less weight will help us outrange the Pakis
Reporter: AIR FORCE OFFICER SAYS CURRENT ASTRA IS A DUD, WILL BE BETTER ONLY IF RANGE IS IMPROVED AND WEIGHT IS REDUCED!!!!!
This would be incorrect too. The Astra Mk2 with a dual-pulse motor is not going to weigh 50kg less than the Mk1 and have a higher range as well. If anything, it might weigh more. I very much doubt this unnamed IAF officer even exists at this point.

Let's consider what this "IAF officer" is saying here. The Astra Mk1 has an official weight of 154kg which is less than the R-77 and similar to that of the AMRAAM. So if what he is saying is correct and the missile is overweight by 50kg, it would actually have to weigh ~200kg while having the same size motor and control surfaces and fuel. It would be barely capable of flight much less shooting down targets at supersonic speeds which has been tested multiple times? It is utter nonsense.
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nachiket wrote:
Anujan wrote:
This would be incorrect too. The Astra Mk2 with a dual-pulse motor is not going to weigh 50kg less than the Mk1 and have a higher range as well. If anything, it might weigh more. I very much doubt this unnamed IAF officer even exists at this point.

Let's consider what this "IAF officer" is saying here. The Astra Mk1 has an official weight of 154kg which is less than the R-77 and similar to that of the AMRAAM. So if what he is saying is correct and the missile is overweight by 50kg, it would actually have to weigh ~200kg while having the same size motor and control surfaces and fuel. It would be barely capable of flight much less shooting down targets at supersonic speeds which has been tested multiple times? It is utter nonsense.
:lol: :rotfl:
So what you're saying is, once the Astra Mk2 is ready for induction in 2 years time, the interview will go as follows:

Reporter: What do you think of Astra Mk2 missle?

IAF Officer: It is longer ranged than Mk1, weighs 50 Kg more and has 50 Km longer range

Reporter: UNNAMED AIR FORCE OFFICER SAYS NOT ONLY WAS THE ASTRA MK1 A DUD, DRDO HAS WASTED TAXPAYERS MONEY ON ASTRA MK2 WHICH IS EVEN HEAVIER THAN ASTRA MK1 AND DOES NOT MATCH UP TO AIM-260 OR PL-15 OR METEOR
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Rakesh wrote:I found the article from where Wolfpack made the tweet. I have been advised that it is a malicious article to peddle foreign maal. If you read the entire article, it will be easy to figure out who is getting the takleef with the Astra induction.


India orders Astra weapon in move to break dependence on foreign missiles
https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia ... -missiles/
02 June 2022
However, An Air Force official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the press :lol:, said Astra MK-1 can only achieve an operational range of up to 60 kilometers and is too bulky. The Air Force wants the missile’s weight reduced by 50 kilograms, he added.
My unnamed sources with deep naalij have assured me that author of said piece is a scumbag on the payroll of lobbyists. :evil:
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https://twitter.com/TheLegateIN/status/ ... S96Sitha2A ---> Two major Defence deals now awaiting clearance from upcoming DAC meet:

1. Eight New Gen Corvettes (NGC) with stealth capability for Indian Navy.

2. Three special mission aircraft for IAF for SIGINT/COMINT/COMJAM (may have ISR component too), as replacement for old Gulfstreams.
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No mention of Mk2 here as well.

Exclusive Interview with IAF Chief: ‘Indian Air Force is progressing well on a capability driven modernization plan’
...

Any update on the modernisation plans of IAF?

To meet emerging challenges the IAF is progressing well on a capability driven modernization plan in consonance with the roadmap laid down in the IAF’s Long Term Perspective Plans.This is being achieved by the induction of new platforms and weapon systems along with the continuous up gradation of existing equipment.

Fighter aircraft like Rafale and Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) as well as Special Operations Transport aircraft(C-130), Heavy Lift Aircraft (C-17), Attack Helicopters (Apache) & Heavy Lift Helicopters (Chinook) have already been inducted and operationalized. Additional combat support assets like Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS), Airborne Early Warning and Control (AEW&C), Flight Refuelling Aircraft (FRA) are also being procured. Air Defence Radars, long and medium range surface-to-air missile systems (S-400, MRSAM), Low Level Quick Reaction Missiles (LLQRM) and Close In Weapon System (CIWS) are being procured in order to provide adequate multi-layered air defence.

Proposals to induct modern technology include Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA), C-295 transport aircraft, Light Combat Helicopter (LCH) and equipment to enable Network Centric Operations.In order to obviate technology obsolescence; we are upgrading existing equipment so that they remain relevant and contemporary. Up-gradation of numerous weapons platforms like MiG-29, Jaguar, Mirage-2000 fighter aircraft, An-32 transport aircraft, Mi-17/ Mi17 1V helicopters and SAGW& communication systems is also in progress.
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https://twitter.com/hvtiaf/status/14039 ... pZqkr08LSg ---> Then & Now...

* Glass Cockpit
* AESA Radar
* NG Anti-Shipping Missile
* NG Close-Combat Missile
* Data-Link
* Twin-INGPS
* HMDS
* Sensor Fused Weapons
* Laser pod
* LGBs
* Recon Pod
* Hand-Free Auto-Bombing
... goes on & on

All integrated on Indian Mission Systems by Indians.

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Rakesh wrote: https://twitter.com/TheLegateIN/status/ ... S96Sitha2A ---> Two major Defence deals now awaiting clearance from upcoming DAC meet:

1. Eight New Gen Corvettes (NGC) with stealth capability for Indian Navy.

2. Three special mission aircraft for IAF for SIGINT/COMINT/COMJAM (may have ISR component too), as replacement for old Gulfstreams.
#2 is a great plan.
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https://twitter.com/TheLegateIN/status/ ... nASAE-laKg ---> IAF to procure 24 navigation satellite jammers, to protect assets from hostile aircraft (utilizing SNS based navigation), guided weapons/UAVs by jamming and spoofing the on-board GNSS to degrade their navigation & weapon delivery capabilities. Primary target is Beidou.

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https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/watc ... ccessfully
Watch: First Flight Of India’s Stealth Flying Wing Technology Demonstrator Carried Out Successfully
In a critical step towards the development of a stealth combat drone, the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) successfully carried out the first flight of the Stealth Wing Flying Testbed’ (SWiFT).

SWiFT has been developed as a technology demonstrator for India's secretive steal combat drone called Ghatak.

“Operating in a fully autonomous mode, the aircraft exhibited a perfect flight, including take-off, way point navigation and a smooth touchdown,' the DRDO said after the SWiFT's first flight.
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Well done!!!
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ADA issued tender for developing S/W for ATOL & Weapon Delivery.
ADA issued tender for developing S/W for ATOL & Weapon Delivery.

These S/W will work with I/P from Vision Based Onboard Camera sensors.this maybe a part of developing unmanned Tejas.The S/W will b ready in 9 months.This will serve as the basis for optionally Manned Aircrafts
Link: https://www.tenderdetail.com/Indian-Ten ... 59e4b7521a
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[quote="vijayk"]https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/watc ... ccessfully
Watch: First Flight Of India’s Stealth Flying Wing Technology Demonstrator Carried Out Successfully

[quote]In a critical step towards the development of a stealth combat drone, the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) successfully carried out the first flight of the Stealth Wing Flying Testbed’ (SWiFT).
why does the picture in that article show an aircraft without a tail and the video shows an aircraft with a tail? Also the aircraft size seem small caveat it is after all just a prototype but still it would be interesting to know the size details.
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https://twitter.com/delhidefence/status ... LKEfLnbZ8A ---> You Can Be My Wingwoman Anytime.

Air Commodore Sanjay Sharma and Flying Officer Ananya Sharma became the first father-daughter duo fighter pilot pair of the Indian Air Force, to fly in formation on the Hawk AJT at Air Force Station Bidar, in Karnataka.

https://twitter.com/scribesoldier/statu ... LKEfLnbZ8A ---> Congratulations! Air Commodore Sanjay Sharma and Flying Officer Ananya Sharma have become the first Father- Daughter duo of the IAF to accomplish fighter formation "training mission".

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 23 March 2021

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This is interesting. Remember, the Egyptian Air Force also operates the Rafale. If the Indian Air Force's MRFA deal goes the Rafale way, India could end up being a regional exercise hub for a number of international Rafale operators - Egypt, UAE, Qatar and Indonesia. The French Air Force could also end up in the mix. And if the Rafale wins the Navy contest, then it would get even more interesting.

One aircraft operated by multiple air forces and the learning opportunities that can be shared among them will be huge. Each of these air forces have their own set procedures and it would be interesting to see how they exploit their Rafale platforms. Dassault's vision of the Rafale being an omnirole fighter could very well end up being prophetic in the true sense of the word.

A future Rafale screwdrivergiri line in India will end up as a MROU (Maintenance, Repair, Overhaul and Upgrade) facility as well. Service not just IAF Rafales, but for international Rafale customers in the region.

https://twitter.com/IAF_MCC/status/1543 ... LKEfLnbZ8A ---> Air Marshal Mohamed Abbas Helmy Md Hashem, Chief of the Egyptian Air Force called on Air Chief Marshal VR Chaudhari, CAS in New Delhi today. Bilateral issues of mutual interest and defence cooperation were discussed between both the Chiefs.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 23 March 2021

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https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/el ... 85.article

? India ?

Elbit Systems has secured an $80 million deal to provide defensive aides to an unnamed country the Asia-Pacific.

The two-year contract will see Elbit supply its C-Music DIRCM (Direct Infrared Counter Measures) along with an infrared warning system for “several aircraft types”, says the company.
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