Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 23 March 2021

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Optical Fiber Cable...?
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Yes. Optical Fibre Cable (OFC).

Solar power is actually quite good in these circumstances as it is low maintenance, and as far as being a target - so is a large and loud diesel generator. One sq.mt. of solar panel will give you 200 W. Hypothetically, if you needed 270 VDC at 40 A, that's roughly 5m x 5m configuration of panels that doesn't need inverters and rectification.
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No formal decision yet on cancellation of fighter, helicopter deals with Russia
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ ... 193689.ece
05 March 2022
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Rakesh wrote:No formal decision yet on cancellation of fighter, helicopter deals with Russia
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ ... 193689.ece
05 March 2022
Additional Mig-29s and Su-30s

In July 2020, the Defence Acquisition Council had approved procurement of 21 MiG-29 fighter jets for the Indian Air Force (IAF) along with the upgradation of 59 existing MiG-29 jets estimated to cost ₹7,418 crore and 12 SU-30 MKI aircraft at an estimated ₹10,730 crore to be manufactured by the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).

However, discussions have since been delayed over the high cost quoted by the Russian side and officials said they have now ironed out all differences and reached an understanding. The deal is now awaiting final approval from the Defence Ministry, a senior official said.

“There is really no alternative for these aircraft, which are only to augment the existing fleets and important as the IAF is facing a steep fall in its fighter strength. The deal is now ready to be signed,” the official said. If it is delayed or deferred now, the whole process will have to restart again and could see cost escalations as well, the official said.

The IAF has conveyed this to the Defence Ministry and a formal decision is awaited, it has been learnt. India has contracted 272 SU-30s from Russia and the 12 additional Su-30MKIs being negotiated are meant to replace the Sukhois lost in crashes over the years.
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Rakesh wrote:S-400: What does it mean for India? By Air Marshal Anil Khosla (Retd).
For anyone interested -- here's the Swedish Defense Research Report referenced by the Air Marshal
https://1drv.ms/b/s!AkgEvanUS3oOg8p_fYx ... A?e=2mE37m
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https://youtu.be/-rDJpPTH5zk
Dr. Shiv discusses recently released satellite images over Balakote showing the destruction from the IAF strike in Feb 2019.
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Excellent, after 3 mins accomadation for Terror instructors blown away, a.k.a ISI/ Fauji officers vaporized. Part of the reason why PAF had to show up on 27 Feb 19 against IA camps, it was not only cannon fodder who died on 26 Feb 19.
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TWITTER

100% indigenization, in what, is the question. Without Tejas Mk2, even 70% indigenization will remain a pipedream. IAF seems convinced that asking the OEMs to part with tech for MRFA will be successful. Why would they? Its their core IP, critical to their long term success..

https://twitter.com/Firezstarter1/statu ... QSEOQ&s=19
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Thank God things have quietened down a bit and some good sense has prevailed amongst the pakis. Otherwise they would have been eying the SAAB Gripen has a counter to the Rafale purchase by now. Making things tougher.
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^beggars have no money to buy grippen, swedes would have sold them happily just like they sold them erieye
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The prices for Russian ware are likely to come down significantly. If the Mig-29s can be obtained for a cheap price, say 10-15 mission each, then they are worth the price. They can be upgraded with Indian designed cockpit, Uttam AESA radar, latest update on the D29 EW suite, Indian mission computer and Astra and NGARM/RudraM1 missiles, along with other newer Indian air to ground PGMs. The total cost would still work out to 25-30 million range at the most.

For the additional Su-30MKIs the price was the sticking point. Hopefully now the Russians might be a bit more reasonable. Sign up for an additional 36 Rafaels along with these and scrap the stupid MRFA crap. Go full steam ahead on the production of the Tejas MK1A and then the Tejas MK2. Add an additional squadron or two of Tejas MK1A for god-sake too.
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Russia has banned all export of weapons till the end of 22, probably why we cancelled the MIG 29 deal.

IAF/Navy has no choice but to increase orders of TEjas MK1/ 1A while MK2/ ORCA/ AMCA are all getting developed.
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The Mig-29 are still formidable fighters, if we can get 2 squadrons of them and soup it up with India specific upgrades they would up the squadron count. Also the Su-30MKIs another 2-3 squadrons for IAF would make sense. No more rafaels, they cost a lot and we would be better of with more Tejas, MK2, AMCA for the money. India does not need to prop up the Euros. France has no alternate after the AUKUS fiasco, cooperating with India is their only hope.
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Last I heard Poland was eager to get rid of their Mig29s

Mylapore maami can broker us a deal ? :)
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Cyrano wrote:Last I heard Poland was eager to get rid of their Mig29s

Mylapore maami can broker us a deal ? :)
Last I heard They were willing to trade if for some F-16 Block 60s :D
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bala wrote:The Mig-29 are still formidable fighters, if we can get 2 squadrons of them and soup it up with India specific upgrades they would up the squadron count. Also the Su-30MKIs another 2-3 squadrons for IAF would make sense. No more rafaels, they cost a lot and we would be better of with more Tejas, MK2, AMCA for the money. India does not need to prop up the Euros. France has no alternate after the AUKUS fiasco, cooperating with India is their only hope.
Absolutely no more MIG-29's or MKI's. Tejas variants and Rafales are the way to go. No matter which way one looks at it, Mig's and MKI's do not make any sense to get inducted in this day and age. We have enough MKI's to last us another generation with upgrades.
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Cyrano wrote:Last I heard Poland was eager to get rid of their Mig29s

Mylapore maami can broker us a deal ? :)
Polish Mig-29's are unupgraded and likely don't have a lot of airframe hours left either. Maybe useful for cannibalizing some parts but not much else.
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42 military personnel died in 45 air accidents over last 5 years: Government
NEW DELHI: Obsolete flying machines, shoddy maintenance and inadequate training to aircrew and ground-crew continue to exact a heavy toll in the armed forces.
At least 42 military personnel have lost their lives in 45 aircraft and helicopter accidents in just the last five years, as per the latest figures tabled by the defence ministry in Rajya Sabha on Monday. Though military aviation is inherently dangerous, this is a high crash rate by any standards.
IAF reported 29 of those accidents, Army 12 and Navy four. Of those killed, 34 were from IAF, seven Army and one Navy. The number of civilians killed in the accidents, or the military personnel injured, was not provided in the written answer.
Congratulations!

“No increase has been noticed in the number of defence personnel to have died during such accidents during the last five years. However, during the current financial year, the number of personnel that died was more as 13 defence personnel died in one IAF helicopter crash on December 8, 2021,” junior defence minister Ajay Bhatt said.

It was actually 14 people, including chief of defence staff General Bipin Rawat and his wife Madhulika, who died in the Mi-17 V5 helicopter crash near Coonoor in Tamil Nadu on October 8.
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It will be direct tactical planning: IAF official on countering adversary’s potent weapon
https://theprint.in/india/it-will-be-di ... on/878224/
12 March 2022
With China possessing the S-400 missile system, an IAF official has told a parliamentary standing committee that countering the potent weapon of the adversary will be based on India’s “direct tactical planning”.

India is in the process of acquiring a batch of S-400 Triumf missile systems from Russia.

“As regards S-400, you are right that they have it. But finally, it remains a potent weapon for them and it will be our tactics how to take them out,” the IAF representative told the parliamentary standing committee on defence.

“Perhaps we have better precision weapons. So, do they. That will be direct tactical planning,” the official said.
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This should squash any rumours of India looking at the S-500.

https://twitter.com/InsightGL/status/15 ... E0Z7Pi1AdQ ---> @AmbRus_India Denis Alipov to Russian media Rossiya 24, yesterday: I can confirm that if India displays interest in acquiring S-500 systems, we will study possibility. He further said, no talks are going on presently.

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Rakesh wrote:It will be direct tactical planning: IAF official on countering adversary’s potent weapon
https://theprint.in/india/it-will-be-di ... on/878224/
12 March 2022
With China possessing the S-400 missile system, an IAF official has told a parliamentary standing committee that countering the potent weapon of the adversary will be based on India’s “direct tactical planning”.

India is in the process of acquiring a batch of S-400 Triumf missile systems from Russia.

“As regards S-400, you are right that they have it. But finally, it remains a potent weapon for them and it will be our tactics how to take them out,” the IAF representative told the parliamentary standing committee on defence.

“Perhaps we have better precision weapons. So, do they. That will be direct tactical planning,” the official said.
In lines of the filmi dialog
"Akhir khay kahna chaahte ho?"
BTW China does not yet have the S-400.
It has ordered them.
Putin might deliver to piss off US.
They will most likely be deployed across Taiwan Straits first.

And Youtube channels say India has two systems alreaady.
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Ramana-ji, I am pretty sure China fielded the system before India.

China to test fire Russian S-400 systems for first time in late July-early August
https://tass.com/defense/1015016
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https://www.sps-aviation.com/story/?id= ... -all-times

Good interview of ACM with SPs Aviation
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Manish_Sharma wrote:^beggars have no money to buy grippen, swedes would have sold them happily just like they sold them erieye
To be fair to the Swedes, they were approached by the Pakis during Gen Musharraf's regime for a Gripen purchase before the JF-17 program took hold. They evaluated the Gripen C and found it to be to their liking. But then the Swedes refused to sell the Gripen when the Pakis expressed interest in it. Defensive weapons were ok, but not offensive weapons. Hence Erieye was approved for export but not the Gripen. Eventually the US approved sales of F-16s and the Pakis lost interest in the Gripen and then went with JF-17 for their light fighter needs.

The cockpit layout for the JF-17 has been influenced by the Gripen as a matter of fact. During trade shows, JF-17 brochures showed cockpit images that were very similar to the Gripen brochure images. The Pakis didn't even bother to change the Gripen C cockpit background (which was that of Linkoping) when creating their brochure for the JF-17 cockpit. Just laid a JF-17 cockpit on top of the Gripen C cockpit image and used it for their brochure. :rotfl:

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Kartik wrote: The cockpit layout for the JF-17 has been influenced by the Gripen as a matter of fact. During trade shows, JF-17 brochures showed cockpit images that were very similar to the Gripen brochure images. The Pakis didn't even bother to change the Gripen C cockpit background (which was that of Linkoping) when creating their brochure for the JF-17 cockpit. Just laid a JF-17 cockpit on top of the Gripen C cockpit image and used it for their brochure.
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MeshaVishwas wrote:https://www.sps-aviation.com/story/?id= ... -all-times

Good interview of ACM with SPs Aviation
As usual, there is no mention of the Tejas Mk2 MWF.

And apparently they are STILL putting together the ASQRs for the MRFA. Must be hard, collating all the data from the previous MRCA responses, plus trying to put in criteria that eliminates some of them, while targeting a specific one, in this case the Rafale. :roll:

Looks like the MRFA tamasha will continue for another half decade. All we can expect is getting the Acceptance of Necessity this year.
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Kartik wrote:
MeshaVishwas wrote:https://www.sps-aviation.com/story/?id= ... -all-times

Good interview of ACM with SPs Aviation
As usual, there is no mention of the Tejas Mk2 MWF.

And apparently they are STILL putting together the ASQRs for the MRFA. Must be hard, collating all the data from the previous MRCA responses, plus trying to put in criteria that eliminates some of them, while targeting a specific one, in this case the Rafale. :roll:

Looks like the MRFA tamasha will continue for another half decade. All we can expect is getting the Acceptance of Necessity this year.
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Public words so far (or lack thereof) from ACM on swadeshi is not that encouraging. Hope I am proven wrong going ahead.
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I think he'll be ACM for the next 3 years...
And neither Tejas Mk2 nor AMCA will be ordered during his tenure... However, there is possibility of MRFA/Rafales being ordered... So, he is probably pushing the case as much as possible...
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LakshmanPST wrote:I think he'll be ACM for the next 3 years...
And neither Tejas Mk2 nor AMCA will be ordered during his tenure... However, there is possibility of MRFA/Rafales being ordered... So, he is probably pushing the case as much as possible...
He will retire in 2024. Neither Tejas Mk2 or AMCA will be ready for active service at that time.

He is entitled to say what he feels is the future for the IAF. That does not have to be followed - to the letter - by the next Air Chief.

At this stage, he is pushing for 114 MRFA. Nothing else is on the Air Force's mind other than 114 MRFA.
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All our Valourous MARS(t)ians went through a overhaul at Roos a year or so back
So some nice before and after shots from Russian Planes.net/Respective photographers
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Rakesh wrote: He will retire in 2024. Neither Tejas Mk2 or AMCA will be ready for active service at that time.

He is entitled to say what he feels is the future for the IAF. That does not have to be followed - to the letter - by the next Air Chief.

At this stage, he is pushing for 114 MRFA. Nothing else is on the Air Force's mind other than 114 MRFA.
This is the sad, systemic problem. Whether a particular branch of our Armed Forces embrace Atmanirbharta or not, seems upto the preferences of the chief. There is a lot of work to be done to ensure that Atmanirbharta is in the DNA of everyone up & down the leadership chain
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Prem Kumar wrote:This is the sad, systemic problem. Whether a particular branch of our Armed Forces embrace Atmanirbharta or not, seems upto the preferences of the chief. There is a lot of work to be done to ensure that Atmanirbharta is in the DNA of everyone up & down the leadership chain
No politician is military savvy in India. So they rely on what the services tell them.

In this case, the IAF is insisting that 114 MRFA must go through. The IAF is not overtly concerned about the cost of the program, because at the end of the day it is coming out of the Govt's pocket. The IAF is involved in the nitty gritty (life cycle cost, value of spares, etc) because that comes out of their annual OPEX budget. But can the country afford it? What about the other services and their needs? There is laser vision focus only on 114 MRFA. Security of the nation can come only through 114 MRFA and everything else must take a back seat. And what usually ends up taking a back seat is local programs like the Tejas in this instance.

The other services are no different. The previous navy chief was under the false assumption that the Govt had funds for a 65,000 aircraft carrier + six SSNs + 57 carrier borne fighters. That was his argument to the late CDS, General Bipin Rawat. So why invest in 114 MRFA, when a super carrier like INS Vishal can be everywhere? The IAF - like air forces world over - scoff at the idea of aircraft carriers.

Where these grandoise import plans hit a brick wall, is when they go for sanction of funds. At this stage, the Finance Ministry laughs at the services and shuns them out of their office. So Atmanirbhar Bharat can only really take hold when the services and the Govt see eye-to-eye on military procurements and programs. That is easier for me to type in this forum, than actually put into practice at the Ministry of Defence.
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One step forward, one step backward. The previous CAS was all about indigenization. Current CAS is all about 114 MRFA.
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Either drop the Tejas program altogether and import onlee. Or stop mindless importing and invest in the Tejas program.

But please don't do half-hearted efforts in both areas. Do one of the two whole heartedly and sincerely.

This AMCA program that the Air Chief is talking about will not exist, if the Tejas Mk2 program does not translate into a triple digit order.

That is the reality.
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Many, many years ago when I had some interaction with a couple of PSUs (not DPSUs) in India, I found that domain knowledge at the individual level was superlative. A very thorough grounding in their area of expertise in many ways superior to even the private sector. But when it came for the organization as a whole to coordinate and deliver the end product, the results were dismal. As I have said it wasn't any DPSU I dealt with but I see no reason as to why the coordination and efficiency for DPSUs should be dramatically better than the average PSU, the culture is comparable. So I for one do not fault the armed forces in harping for imported equipment, at least deliveries will be on schedule. Will private sector involvement in India make a material difference and result in more local procurement?
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Karan M wrote:One step forward, one step backward. The previous CAS was all about indigenization. Current CAS is all about 114 MRFA.
Worst part is they seem to have learned absolutely nothing from the MRCA fiasco when the IAF was left holding the bag with no aircraft actually inducted. They are now trying to repeat the same 20 years later with essentially the same set of competitors and hoping for a different outcome even though the huge financial issues with it should be apparent even to a child. This when our main adversary is adding several squadrons of new aircraft to their fleet per year. There is no sense of urgency, nor any attempt to rethink possibilities and come up with a more realistic procurement plan for new aircraft and an upgrade plan for the current fleet.
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Nachiket, precisely. Multiple tip of the spear procurements are stalled while the IAF plays import bingo with a limited budget hoping for unobtainium and the GOI is unwilling to intervene and make them see sense either, having left them to their own devices.

Without going into details, if it were left to the IAF alone, aatmanirbharta would be a near flop show when it came to fighting platforms and top end vectors (weapons and their guidance systems). Its beyond frustrating.

In recent news, it's taken sanctions on Russia for the IAF to realize that the Su-30 upgrade should include a desi avionics fit as far as possible. Supposedly. Have they funded a desi avionics prototype for the Flanker? No such report.

Between two positions - a populist Govt which doesn't wish to spend a dime extra on procurement or R&D, or defence, and an IAF which is always hankering for the fanciest import, we are between a rock and a hard place. This despite having so much domestic ability.
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https://twitter.com/DefencePROPalam/sta ... 0cftuTsY-A ---> An IAF Chinook undertook the longest non-stop helicopter sortie in India, flying from Chandigarh to Jorhat (Assam). The 1,910 km route was completed in 7 hours, 30 minutes and made possible by the capabilities of Chinook along with operational planning and execution by the IAF.

https://twitter.com/DefencePROPalam/sta ... 0cftuTsY-A ---> Chinook is a multi role, vertical lift platform, used for transporting men and material. It also plays an important role in Humanitarian and Disaster Relief Operations. Rapid mobility will allow IAF to employ this asset optimally as required.

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Rakesh wrote:Either drop the Tejas program altogether and import onlee. Or stop mindless importing and invest in the Tejas program.

But please don't do half-hearted efforts in both areas. Do one of the two whole heartedly and sincerely.
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That's what I mean sir, na Ghar ka na Ghat ka. That's the state of affairs of procurement and therefore, security. It's mind boggling... In the face of geo political concerns and border issues. Utterly chalta hai was expected from Babu log, but the services now seem no less.

Thank God that modi and parrikar had the presence of mind to get 36 rafale and s400. Otherwise if the mrca tamasha had continued, we'd be seriously
up a crick right now.
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