Indian Army News & Discussion - 23 March 2021

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sanjaykumar wrote:What do the private medical insurance companies pay when a non-helmeted Sikh motorcycle rider needs neurosurgery where it can be demonstrated reasonably that the medical and rehabilitation expenses would have been less with helmet?
Presumably those provinces in Canada that allow this foot the bills. Which is the same as the taxpayer pays for the privilege.
At this point in time in India. It's a non issue.

It becomes an issue only when drunken driving is involved.
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Northern Borders Will Continue To Remain Our Primary Front, Says Indian Army Chief
Plus covers: Aganiveers, Theter-izaation, and buy in India topics
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Planning to convert our Battle Squads into Integrated Battle Groups: Army chief.

Chief of Army Staff (CoAS) General Manoj Pande on Sunday announced to convert the "Battle Squads" into "Integrated Battle Groups" in an effort towards structuring and optimization of the force.

General Pande made the announcement while speaking at the 75th Army Day event organised here at Govindaswami Drill Square ground.
"In an effort towards force structuring and optimization, we are planning to convert our Battle Squads into Integrated Battle Groups, which will contribute effectively to the battlefield of the future," Pande said.

He further said that "old establishments and units are being disbanded, or are being revamped with suitable changes."

To make the "teeth-to-tail" ratio effective with modernization and technological infusion, Pande said, "the Army will be right-sized so that human resource or manpower can be used properly".

"Our aim will be to move from a manpower-intensive to a technologically driven Army," said the Army chief, adding "our primary focus will be our soldiers, who will be fully prepared and equipped to face the challenges of the future."

Provision of modern weapons and equipment is an integral part of this effort, for which the Indian Army is determined to find indigenous solutions, said Pande. "Modernity through 'self-reliance' will be our new mantra."

Mentioning that the "Indian Defense Industry is rising up to this challenge with competence", the Army chief said "the Indian Army moving towards partnership from a "buyer-seller relationship" with the industry.

"Several initiatives have been taken to further strengthen this relationship, which includes 'hand holding'."

He asserted that the Indian Army has full faith in the sturdiness and operability of 'Made-in-India' weapons and equipment.

"Niche Technologies like ArtificialIntelligence, blockchain, quantum communications, unmanned systems, and directed energy weapons are also being indigenized," said the Army chief, adding "we are confident that the Indian Army will fight and win future wars with Indian solutions."

In the direction of making our processes and systems effective and efficient, Pande said "we are ending or changing some traditional practices, which have lost their relevance."

To increase functional efficiency, he also said "we have to make our processes more effective."

Pointing that infrastructure development and logistics are important parts of the Indian Army's operational preparedness, he announced the infrastructure requirements of the force will be "aligned and coordinated with the national logistics policy as a result of the launch of the PM Gatishakti Initiative.

On the Army Day event, Pandey also said that the Indian Army is determined to work along with all agencies and departments in the progress of the country.
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Good to hear. The Govt must push the leadership of forces to go into mission mode and transform itself into an even more potent force. Some British era and pre-Modi era practices, structures and comforts need to be mercilessly junked. There will be some short term pain, but long term gain.
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PM Modi interacts with Agniveers
NEW DELHI: Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Monday congratulated the first batch of Agniveers on being the pioneers of the Agnipath scheme, asserting that it is a transformative policy and a game changer in strengthening the armed forces and making them future-ready.
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Cyrano sir,

Can you elaborate on what you mean by mission mode and what are the clear outcomes desired and across what dimensions?

As of now the priority is cost cutting to address budget. What other changes would you think should be prioritised asap.


Also I agree with you one old practices etc but what according to you ate these. Would like to see your list if possible.
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Sorry Sachin Bhai, do some research on your own to figure all that out since here we are wearing rose tinted glasses.
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Keep to see what rose tinted insights / rhetoric you have sir.
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LoL, I'm not getting into that with you again. Suggest you read up, speak to relevant people, analyse and post without tinted glasses. Then I may read, query, comment and critique - if I find it interesting.
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Security of nation can neither be outsourced nor be dependent on largesse of others: Army Chief General Pande
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 532373.cms
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The Major General is reportedly the son of former Army Chief, General VP Malik (COAS during the 1999 Kargil War). Click on the twitter link for more info.

https://twitter.com/firefurycorps/statu ... 1wPt_GhV-A ---> Major General Sachin Malik, YSM took over as 42nd General Officer Commanding, Forever in Operations Division from Major General Nagendra Singh, AVSM, YSM, SM. On assuming command he exhorted all ranks to continue working with soldierly commitment & professionalism.

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Twitter thread (with video) on the Carl Gustaf --->

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https://twitter.com/livefist/status/162 ... 83q_tasjKw ---> Indian MoD signs ₹2585 crore contract with L&T for 41 indigenous modular bridges Bridges for the Indian Army’s Corps of Engineers.

https://twitter.com/manupubby/status/16 ... 83q_tasjKw ---> MoD has signed a Rs 2585 crore contract for indigenous Modular Bridges for the Corps of Engineers. Developed by DRDO they will be produced by Larsen & Toubro (L&T). Can launch 46m assault bridges.
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Rakesh wrote:https://twitter.com/livefist/status/162 ... 83q_tasjKw ---> Indian MoD signs ₹2585 crore contract with L&T for 41 indigenous modular bridges Bridges for the Indian Army’s Corps of Engineers.

https://twitter.com/manupubby/status/16 ... 83q_tasjKw ---> MoD has signed a Rs 2585 crore contract for indigenous Modular Bridges for the Corps of Engineers. Developed by DRDO they will be produced by Larsen & Toubro (L&T). Can launch 46m assault bridges.
https://twitter.com/DefenceDecode/statu ... 83q_tasjKw ---> MoD has approved the proposal for the indigenous manufacture of 41 sets of Modular Bridges for the Corps of Engineers of the Indian Army. Designed and developed by DRDO and shall be produced by Larsen & Toubro (L&T) as a DRDO-nominated production agency.

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https://twitter.com/DefenceDecode/statu ... 83q_tasjKw --->

- Contract signed with L&T on Feb 08, 2023 at an estimated cost of over Rs 2,585 crore.

Each set of Modular Bridge shall consist of:
- 7 carrier vehicles based on 8x8 HMVs
- 2 launcher vehicles based on 10x10 HMVs.

Each set shall be capable of mechanically launching a single span fully decked 46m assault bridge. The bridge can be employed over various types of obstacles like canals & ditches with quick launching n retrieval capabilities. The equipment is highly mobile, versatile, rugged and capable of keeping pace with wheeled n tracked mechanized vehicles.

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Very nice!

These are Load Class 70 bridges. Does it mean they can support a max weight of 70 tonnes?

Also, is the bridge-laying preceded by suppressive fire from tanks & infantry, so that the beach-heads on either side can be secured? Have we employed these in wars before?
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I suspect Infantry will cross in Rubber boats with Small arms, ATGMs and Artillery spotters , Drones to see the genral picture, with Good Artillery back up,, the area on the other side will be secured and only then these will be depolyed for Tanks, supply vehicles etc can cross, so 70 tonne rated means Arjun 1A with or without Tank plow can easily cross.
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Rakesh wrote: https://twitter.com/livefist/status/162 ... 83q_tasjKw ---> Indian MoD signs ₹2585 crore contract with L&T for 41 indigenous modular bridges Bridges for the Indian Army’s Corps of Engineers.

https://twitter.com/manupubby/status/16 ... 83q_tasjKw ---> MoD has signed a Rs 2585 crore contract for indigenous Modular Bridges for the Corps of Engineers. Developed by DRDO they will be produced by Larsen & Toubro (L&T). Can launch 46m assault bridges.
Can it carry Arjun Mk xyz ? Or is its capacity limited to say ~50 MT so that there is one more reason not to buy Arjun but buy xyzwv
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Previously DRDO had developed a "similar" but smaller systesm called Kartik. Any idea what is the status of that system.
I think is was displayed at DEFEXPO some 10+ years ago
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Autobiography of Lt. GEN KJS Dhillon is available in USA, Canada on Amazon Here

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Rakesh wrote: https://twitter.com/livefist/status/162 ... 83q_tasjKw ---> Indian MoD signs ₹2585 crore contract with L&T for 41 indigenous modular bridges Bridges for the Indian Army’s Corps of Engineers.

https://twitter.com/manupubby/status/16 ... 83q_tasjKw ---> MoD has signed a Rs 2585 crore contract for indigenous Modular Bridges for the Corps of Engineers. Developed by DRDO they will be produced by Larsen & Toubro (L&T). Can launch 46m assault bridges.
nuclear reactors, submarines, tanks, metro laying equipment, ports and what not. L&T is the original company building India. Other just claim.
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First image is that of a 46 meter SINGLE span bridge which has been recently removed.

Second image is that of Sarvatra system where MULTIPLE spans of 15m each can be put together to create 75m span bridge.
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Are the Sarvatra and Kartik systems operational with IA ? Will they continued to be used after getting new system from L&T ?
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IA becomes first in the world to deploy Swarm Drones! Congrats to them, Joe Sameer & the NewSpace team!

https://swarajyamag.com/defence/indian- ... 50-km-away

As I have been mentioning before, the Army Design Bureau responsible for drone & UAV induction has been doing a really good job of supporting Atmanirbharta!

This also shows how tech-savvy veterans like Joe Sameer, Lt Gen Palepu Ravi Shankar etc can, with the help of industry and academia, can come up with world-leading products! More power to these gents
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If there is anything you do while on BRF today, please set aside some time and watch this. You will not be disappointed.

What’s The Indian Army’s Secret Unit TSD?
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Colonel Hunny Bakshi, Ex-Commanding Officer of TSD
ANI Podcast with Smita Prakash - 24 Nov 2022


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Russia to co-develop main battle tank with India, ready to share T-14 Armata tank technology

https://eurasiantimes.com/russia-pitche ... -to-india/


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chetak wrote:
Russia to co-develop main battle tank with India, ready to share T-14 Armata tank technology
https://eurasiantimes.com/russia-pitche ... -to-india/
Now T 90 SM, T90 MS, T 90 XYZ will suddenly become obsolescent so that we buy T 14 Armata and we support the Russina MIC

And now all our bridges will become stronger to support the heavier T 14 viz-a-viz T 90.

Jai HInd
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Kersi wrote:
Now T 90 SM, T90 MS, T 90 XYZ will suddenly become obsolescent so that we buy T 14 Armata and we support the Russina MIC

And now all our bridges will become stronger to support the heavier T 14 viz-a-viz T 90.

Jai HInd

48 tons, I believe

Nothing is carved in stone yet. The Russians are willing to help India produce these tanks in India

here is the turret

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Armament
One 125mm gun, one 57mm automatic grenade launcher, one 12.7 mm machine gun

Armor
Protection against small arms and shell splinters. Active protection system and active, passive add-on armor

Country users Russia, Weight 48,000 kg

Designer Country Russia, Speed 80 to 90 km/h maximum road speed

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Infrared night vision, NBC protection system, automatic fire control system, active protection system, fire detection, and suppression system, battle management system

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Crew 3, Dimensions Length: 8.7 m; Width: 3.5 m; Height: 3.3 m
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US clears decks for Stryker armored personnel carrier to be made in India
If the US government goes through with the ToT deal, it will allow India to manufacture the eight-wheeled armored fighting vehicle jointly produced by Canada and the United States (US)
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Aero India 2023: Army officer develops anti-drone system.

A new anti-drone system developed by a Lt Col of the Indian Army is all set to hand the nation's defence forces more power in tackling the threat of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) in strategic border areas.

Lt Col Sadanand Chauhan from the Indian Army's Corps of Signals, a computer engineer by qualification, has developed a radio frequency or RF-based counter-drone system that has been tested by the Army internally and deployed in some of the frontline units in border areas.

"The system has achieved operational objectives and the feedback from the troops is positive. We are working on its range to detect and counter enemy drones. We will make certain changes to it according to the requirements of the field units," Lt Col Chauhan, who presented the system at Aero India, told TOI.

Lt Col Chauhan briefed Lt Gen BS Raju, the Vice-Chief-of-Army Staff, about the new defence system during the latter's visit to Aero India.

To counter aerial threats, last month, Indian Army had floated a request for proposal (RFP) to procure vehicle based drone jammers. The development assumes significance in the backdrop of the Army detecting several drones from across the border in the south western and northern sectors in the last two years.

Various methods are used to jam enemy drones, one of which is RF-jamming that disrupts the radio frequency link between a drone and its operator by generating large volumes of RF impinging.
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Kersi wrote:
Now T 90 SM, T90 MS, T 90 XYZ will suddenly become obsolescent so that we buy T 14 Armata and we support the Russina MIC

And now all our bridges will become stronger to support the heavier T 14 viz-a-viz T 90.

Jai HInd
No, it will be more subtle. Suddenly the 120mm gun on the Arjun will be found to be seriously lacking punch and firepower. The DGMF will suddenly realise that the only way to avoid Pakistani dash to Delhi will be by using the Armata. Either an emergency purchase will be done or the Chandigrah lobby will write the GSQRs which will be dutifully copied over ….

The T14 will be magically cheaper than the Arjun in the quote. Of course it will be without a commanders sight, AC and will require significant fixes but it will be cheaper…
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The current GoI seems to be very gung-ho on Atmanirbhar Bharat! If the news on IAF thread is correct and IAF is looking at 50 more LCA Mk1A, then I think the days of getting imported tanks are behind us. It will be fully or partially indigenous tanks that we will end up with. Of course, that is assuming that NDA will win the 2024 elections.
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Changes at the top announced:

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Vice Chief of Army Staff Lt Gen BS Raju appointed as the South Western Army Commander. He will have a tenure of eight months in the new office.
-ANI
Can any guru clarify if this particular posting is unusual?(From Vice Chief back to Corps Cdr)
Rohit?

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Lt Gen MVS Kumar has been promoted to the rank of Army Commander and appointed as the new Vice Chief of Army Staff. He is presently the Deputy Chief of Army Staff (Strategy) in the Army Headquarters.
-ANI

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Lt Gen NSR Subramani has been promoted to the rank of Army commander and appointed as the next Central Army Commander in Lucknow. He is presently the Chief of Staff in the Northern Command.
-ANI
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A Super Hero

Bringing Army And Dead Soldiers' Families Together
Sambandh means relationship in Hindi. And with Project Sambandh, retired Colonel Vembu Shankar, whose brainchild it is, aims to establish just that -- a relationship between the army and the families of soldiers who have died in non-operational areas.

"The families of those who die in war and during operations are looked after very well by the army, but those who die in non-combat situations do not receive the same attention," says Colonel Shankar, who was awarded a Shaurya Chakra for gallantry.

When a soldier dies in a war or during a military operation, his family gets 100% pension -- in other words his salary for the rest of the widow's life -- but for the widow of a soldier who dies otherwise it is 30% to 60% of salary depending on the length of his tenure in the army, the colonel points out.

He started this mission in 2017 after he retired from the army and has helped scores of families get their due.

"Every year, 100 army men die in the field while a thousand die for non-operational reasons like ill-health, accidents and suicide," explains Colonel Shankar. "I trace the family and then do what is needed to help them."

When they serve in the army, soldiers live in a cantonment where there is a school, hospital and everything they need, but after the soldier dies the family has to go back, to the in-laws who sometimes turn hostile. Or they move to the parents' home or to another place where they are not in contact with anyone in the army or the unit where the husband served. Thus, they are unaware of the various schemes that the army and the government has to help them.

For instance, the army and the government provide scholarships for the children's studies, a grant for marriage, help during hospitalisation and also a grant/loan if the family wishes to start a business.

But the young widows are not aware of this, Colonel Shankar says, so he helps them get the benefits they are entitled to.

He does this by himself and does not collect any funds for the same, at times travelling extensively on his mission. He gets details of deaths from Army Headquarters and also from individual army centres.

Colonel Shankar, who was commanding a unit in the north east when he retired, has so far helped 22,000 families.

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Tanaji wrote:
Kersi wrote:
Now T 90 SM, T90 MS, T 90 XYZ will suddenly become obsolescent so that we buy T 14 Armata and we support the Russina MIC

And now all our bridges will become stronger to support the heavier T 14 viz-a-viz T 90.

Jai HInd
No, it will be more subtle. Suddenly the 120mm gun on the Arjun will be found to be seriously lacking punch and firepower. The DGMF will suddenly realise that the only way to avoid Pakistani dash to Delhi will be by using the Armata. Either an emergency purchase will be done or the Chandigrah lobby will write the GSQRs which will be dutifully copied over ….

The T14 will be magically cheaper than the Arjun in the quote. Of course it will be without a commanders sight, AC and will require significant fixes but it will be cheaper…
T 14 will be much cheaper than Arjun Mk XYZ. Turret is extra
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India considers replacing some soldiers in restive Kashmir region with paramilitary forces
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There are 130,000 Indian soldiers in the disputed region, with about 80,000 stationed at the Line of Control. In addition, hundreds of thousands of paramilitary and special police forces are also stationed across the valley.
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It would be good to bring the soldiers back to their base camps and allow them to rest and retrain them in regular army skills / functions
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Creates Army reserve along LOC and LAC
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First Medium Range Surface to Air Missile (MRSAM) Regiment being raised in #EasternCommand. Lt Gen RP Kalita #ArmyCdrEC reviewed its raising on 23 Feb 23.MRSAM provides Air Defence against aerial threats to include fighter aircrafts,UAVs,subsonic & supersonic missiles
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What radar does this army version use ?
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