Air Force Tejas Mk1A: News & Discussions: 02 January 2022

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This govt is not going to sack any chief unnecessarily. Lets be clear about that. It's the gravest of steps taken with a lot of heavy consideration and with wide ramifications. The Govt would prefer an upstanding officer who is competent at his primary task (warfighting), even if he disagrees with them on occasion and makes it known.

However, they have policy directives and they will ensure, after the Chief gets a patient hearing, which he is entitled to, that those directives are also implemented. This is how mature decision makers operating at the highest level operate. Neither the GOI nor the Chief will overstep those unwritten yet well observed rules of conduct.

Lets drop this pointless line of discussion.
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ashishvikas wrote:So, @HALHQBLR has this to say in its Annual Report for 2021-2022:

'The 83 LCA MK1A program attained a major milestone
with the *first flight of the prototype* held on 20th May,
2022.'


https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/155 ... 2206Q&s=19
Thank you Ashish Saar. I have updated Page 1.
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Karan M wrote:This govt is not going to sack any chief unnecessarily. Lets be clear about that. It's the gravest of steps taken with a lot of heavy consideration and with wide ramifications. The Govt would prefer an upstanding officer who is competent at his primary task (warfighting), even if he disagrees with them on occasion and makes it known.

However, they have policy directives and they will ensure after the Chief gets a patient hearing, which he is entitled to, that those directives are also implemented. This is how mature decision makers operating at the highest level operate. Neither the GOI nor the Chief will overstep those unwritten yet well-observed rules of conduct.

Lets drop this pointless line of discussion.
Totally agree on this.
No more on this subject.
Thanks, ramana
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basant wrote:Ramana garu, if only your view was correct we'd be flying a hundred or two Tejas today. IAF wants something, the GoI doesn't like the choice. Meanwhile our strength may be reduced to that of PAF's and, God forbid, may even go lower. Are we depending on the mercy of Pak and China on not attacking us till IAF has purchased adequate planes? When Galwan happened, IAF went helter-skelter and deployed Naval Migs of all places in mighty Himalayas! While GoI can always be blamed for not being pushy enough, IAF is the primary reason for the mess and the force, going by recent interviews, has only become so audacious that it spins such ridiculous webs that won't fool even common citizens. The retirement of twin-engined Mig 29 UPGs, while considering purchase of 21 new jets and not even considering more Tejas squadrons, is only a pressure tactic for MRCA. The most ironical part in this entire episode is that there is a good probability that the next order of Tejas may not come from India at all. Let's reflect on that with circumspection.
The old Mig-29s are quite shoddy. So keeping the new one is good.
And also means more Mk2s.
Lets look at the positive.

Finally other than Su-30MKIs the Mig fleet will get phased out.
After Ukraine War, there won't be foreign suppliers eager to sell to India as they need to supply their own forces.
That brings reality.
The key is to get the Own Turbo Fan made in India.
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Rakesh wrote: https://twitter.com/TheAvenger82/status ... u2_EGBYOZw ----> HAL has commenced flight trials of the upgraded version of Tejas MK-1A jets. It will be tested to fire Astra BVR missile, an AESA radar and equipped with EW suites. IAF will start receiving it from February 2024 with percentage of indigenous components increasing from current 61% to 76.74%
This is great news!!!
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ramana wrote:
Rakesh wrote: https://twitter.com/TheAvenger82/status ... u2_EGBYOZw ----> HAL has commenced flight trials of the upgraded version of Tejas MK-1A jets. It will be tested to fire Astra BVR missile, an AESA radar and equipped with EW suites. IAF will start receiving it from February 2024 with percentage of indigenous components increasing from current 61% to 76.74%
This is great news!!!
We are using SP-25, a FOC Tejas, to test these Mk1A features. What is the possibility to transfer some of these features like UEWS, IRST and ASRAAM to Mk1 Tejas or at least FOC version before delivery of Mk1A starts?
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nash wrote:
ramana wrote: This is great news!!!
We are using SP-25, a FOC Tejas, to test these Mk1A features. What is the possibility to transfer some of these features like UEWS, IRST and ASRAAM to Mk1 Tejas or at least FOC version before delivery of Mk1A starts?
UEWS and IRST are Tejas Mk2 features. They are not present in the Mk1A. The EW suite talked about in Mk1A is basically integration with the Elta ELL-8222 SPJ pod and perhaps the DARE ASPJ pod in the future. Should be a possible to integrate them with the Mk1 as well. Integration with ASRAAM, Astra and other weapon systems should also be possible. Depends on what IAF asks for and how soon.
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Some you tube channels are reporting that the MK1A will get a IRST pod, most likely Litening-IV. targeting cum IRST pod. The Litening is not primarily an IRST pod, and used more for air to ground targeting, but the latest variant can be used as IRST as well.

Will most likely also get SDR.
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https://twitter.com/Archit_Ch/status/15 ... cbULrl1Ygg ---> Open source HAL documents confirm that the two airframes allocated as 'prototypes' of the LCA MK1A are the:

• SP-25 (LA-5021)
• LSP-08 (KH-2018)

Photo: LSP-08 during A2A refueling trials

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Looks like a concerted effort is being made to get Argentina on board the Tejas Mk1A as an export nation.

China out- HAL offers Tejas Mk1A and trainer variant to Argentina
State owned Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) during its recent visit to Argentina has offered indigenous Light Combat Aircraft `Tejas’ Mark IA and 2 seater trainers.

Sources have confirmed to Financial Express Online: “Argentina will be looking to export from India two variants of the LCA Tejas. First would be its two-seater operational conversion trainer aircraft, akin to what might be with the Indian Air Force (IAF). The second would be the export variant, the LCA Tejas Mark 1A.”

HAL in Argentina
During meetings in Buenos Aires, the executives from HAL met with the Argentinean Chief of Naval Staff, Admiral Julio Guardia, on August 31, 2022. Francisco Cafiero, Argentinean Secretary of International Affairs and Daniela Castro, Secretary of Defence Production, Ministry of Defence, also held talks with the HAL delegation the same day. On September 1, HAL met with General Guillermo Pereda, Chief of General Staff, Argentine Armed Forces. A meeting followed this up with Brigadier Xavier Julian Issac, the Chief of General Staff, Argentine Air Force. On September 2, the HAL officials also had discussions with Mirta Iriondo, the President of Fábrica Argentina de Aviones, the foremost aircraft manufacturer in that country.

What is Argentina looking for?
Argentina has been scouting globally for fighter jets to replace its aging Air Force Fleet for a while. Among the possible winners have been the Chinese JF-17, the Indian Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas, the South Korean FA-50 and the Lockheed Martin’s F-16s. In the past month, between India and Argentina there have been several rounds of visits and meetings. Financial Express Online has reported earlier that external affairs minister Dr S Jaishankar was in Argentina as part of his three nation visit to the region. Light Combat Aircraft was discussed during his meetings with his counterpart and other senior officials. Recently, along with the Indian Ambassador to Argentina Dinesh Bhatia, Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) executives met with the Argentine Chief of Staff, Argentinian Air Force and other key stakeholders.

Partners, not providers: India’s defence diplomacy at its best
With the Malaysian deal expected to be closed soon, state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) has set itself apart from others to accommodate the countries. For Malaysia, HAL is set to provide services for their Russian fleets in addition to the LCA Tejas.
For Argentina, the company is open to accommodating the demands of their Air Force. The most challenging task had been replacing all UK-origin components in the LCA Tejas. “It is primarily due to the long-standing dispute of the Falkland Islands between the two,” explained a senior diplomat.
However, it is also a practical ask because HAL cannot go ahead with the sale without a green light from its global providers, including those in the UK. Based on the information in the public domain, in the past decade, Argentina’s efforts to purchase aircraft, including the Saab Gripen from Sweden and later the FA-50 trainer/light fighter from South Korea could not materialize. this was Due to the pressure from the government of Britain.

Argentine interest in HAL has been building positively over time. Reportedly, in March 2022, Argentine Brigadier General D Xavier Julian Issac, Chief of Staff, Argentinian Air Force, visited India along with a pilot. They clocked over 30 minutes in the LCA Tejas trainer variant at a HAL facility and were impressed by the indigenous fighter.

“A similar exercise was conducted by the Chinese, who flew their JF-17 aircraft to Argentina, where the Argentinean Air Force spent a month with the same. In 2021, there were reports of Argentina down selecting the Chinese offering. However, later on, any such development was denied by the officials. Apparently, the Argentine response was also positive for the JF-17, but the US was able to talk them out of considering the Chinese aircraft,” said an official who wished to remain anonymous.

How LCA Tejas stacks against competition?
Reports have indicated that the LCA Tejas will cost Argentina in the ballpark of USD 42 million per aircraft. The South Korean FA-50 would be several million less. However, FA-50, which the Argentine Air Force has already, comes without missiles, adding to the costs after the fact.

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However, the F-16 sale to Argentina has been marred by London’s predicament over the Falkland Islands issue. Washington might push for second-hand F-16s to be sold to Argentina to check Beijing’s foothold in its backyard.”

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After its Mirage fighters left, it chose the Israeli Kfir Block 60s to revive its supersonic fighter capability. However, this deal fell through when the US refused to grant the export license for the engine.
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Are the Americans on board with re-export of GE404 as part of the LCA package?
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Pratyush wrote:Are the Americans on board with re-export of GE404 as part of the LCA package?
That would be something we will only find out when the GoI applies for export license for the F-404..
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Maybe we will have perfected the KAveri and its offshoots by then eh!
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Posted on Twitter, this chart from Janes indicates that the Tejas Mk1 and Mk1A are the costliest of the LIFT/fighters being considered by Malaysia for it's LCA competition..

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HAL sees opportunity for Tejas in Malaysia's FLIT programme
Not all the bidders for Malaysia's FLIT acquisition are offering aircraft at equal prices. This will affect how much bilateral trade Malaysia will have to conduct to partially pay for the acquisition. The unit prices of the six primary contenders was determined by Janes using estimated near/mid-term production or delivery prices. (Janes)

A combination of capability and flexibility over countertrade appears to have made India one of the frontrunners for Malaysia's Fighter Lead-in-Trainer (FLIT) programme.

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) said on 18 August that the Tejas has a “fair chance” of winning the bid as it has met “all the parameters sought by RMAF [Royal Malaysian Air Force] ”. The company added that “the final winner of the tender is expected to be declared soon by Malaysian authorities”.

Malaysia's FLIT programme intends to acquire an initial batch of 18 light combat aircraft as part of the RMAF's Capability Development 2055 plan.

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It's quite interesting. The only item of cost that India is unable to control is the GE404.

Yet the Tejas is more expensive than the other entry with the common engine.
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Pratyush wrote:It's quite interesting. The only item of cost that India is unable to control is the GE404.

Yet the Tejas is more expensive than the other entry with the common engine.
economies of scale

T-50: Advanced jet trainer
TA-50: Lead-in fighter trainer
FA-50: Light combat aircraft

commonality of components

more than 200 have been built accr to wiki

How many Tejas has been built ?
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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 116642.cms

The RMAF picked the FA-50 for the FLIT-LCA RFP. However, the FA-50 blew past the budget at 4.2 RM BN and the Ministry of finance sent back the proposal for rework.

The Tejas also blew past the 3.5 Mn budget at 375Mn. The JF-17 reportedly came under budget. Please note that flyaway prices are just a fraction of the actual acquisition price. The offers need not be equal either. - eg there were rumors that KAI was considering local assembly, while HAL is on record as offering local MRO facilities. There are also modifications to the base aircraft possible for the tender in each case

The tender was for both trainers and light combat aircraft, and the FA-50/TA-50 were established and exported. And thus the front runners.

It is still possible for a different airframe to be selected if the rework proposal collapses or the offer sacrifices too much by way of QR.

The article references local rumors of kickbacks. Such as this old article. https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/ ... t-aircraft
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its a No brainer, the FA 50 will win , why?. Cause almost all the armament in the FA from Radar to weapons in American, For Tejas it is only the Engine. and US software is also involved in the FBW.

with FA USA- will sell Radar, AAM, A2G , Engine, with Tejas only engine.

Based on pure performance Tejas is much better, FA 50 is more based on the T 50 which is an AJT, Engine FA 50 uses the base F404, Radar FA 50 to still have BVR radar capability , it will be either Israeli EL 2032 or or AN/APG. AAM- AIM 9l and in future AIM-120C, All A2G is US family of weapons and Bombs.

It does not have Aerial refuelling capability but plans are to consult Cobham to fit one.

FA 50, Gripen are more like US warplanes manufactured abroad but they are heavily dependent on the NATO sub systems. Tejas only real dependency is the Engine- Martin Baker ejection seats, Cobham radome .

Given these it is highly unlikely that US is going to sanction LCA Tejas engine export over the much more lucrative FA 50 other than Airframe and Assembly is American.

We should unnecessarily have false hopes in this case, let HAL Try but its a real long shot and will have clear many hurdles.
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Kartik wrote:Posted on Twitter, this chart from Janes indicates that the Tejas Mk1 and Mk1A are the costliest of the LIFT/fighters being considered by Malaysia for it's LCA competition..
OT on/
The Turkish fighter is named "Hoor-jet"...how very quaintly jihadi. Like the hoors, presumably it does not require any fuel nor an exhaust, and the jihadi riding it will attain jannat for sure.

I am surprised that the Malaysians did not select it. :lol: Maybe there was a problem of beards getting stuck under the canopy.

OT off/
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what about the palm oil payments?

USA will definitely not take palm oil for payments, nor SK can offer them. If bribes r involved, DefMin or RMAF want cash, then palm oil deal will not workout.

I wonder where is whole palm oil thing.
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Palm oil is mostly irrelevant. Malaysia had rfp terms to pay 50% in palm oil irrespective of the winner. And there is a palm oil market ..so it's not like you're forced to consume it.

@aditya - look up fa-50 block 20 or fa-50 pl (version sold to poland). It gets an aesa radar, bvr missiles, other missiles..

Since much of the effectiveness of a fighter is based on things like sensors, missiles etc, it's tough to figure effectiveness gap wrt tejas. There were also rumors of possibilities to offer assembly line.

But the fa-50 trainer is more proven than whatever hal proposed

Might explain some of the increase in price.
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Yes thats what I said FA 50 has every US weapon integrated on an F-16 on it, so it will definitely have US Industry backing it. I dont the price is a big deal,

But with respect to AESA Radar, Article from July 2022

https://www.aviacionline.com/2022/07/do ... -with-kai/
The FA-50PL will be the «polonized» version of the light fighter, which will incorporate an AESA radar (the model is yet to be defined) and will be integrated with the advanced AIM-9X Sidewinder and AIM-120 AMRAAM air-to-air missiles, as well as with the Sniper laser designation pod and other modern armaments.
AESA- It is a future capability, as of today FA 50 does not BVR capability, it will have one in future, but is not yet defined, i.e I don't there is any variant flying with a AESA radar,it is a future capability.

while it have an impressive 2690 liters of Fuel, 4500 kg payload with 78kn version of F404 engine and Air to Air refueling is still to be worked out. Sure all things can be done but they take years of design integration and testing.

FA 50 is basically a Trainer getting converted into a fighter, a cheaper fighter for Nations flying the F-16, since it shares almost all the weapons with the F-16.

HAL will lose the contest as no way US is going to approve the sale of F404 engine in front of a much more lucrative deal giving the US much more leverage in the deal.

No media wants to state that FA 50 will win because of US geopolitical interests, I am just wondering with Gripen E/F or Gripen C/d is not in this contest.

This will be geopolitical deal which Malaysia started cause of Chinese's worries, so they will not go for the JF-17. USA/Korea have offered their FA 50- which will win. India is there more for time pass- we do not have geopolitical heft to win this.

Columbian order on 1 May 2022 will have the Israeli EL 2052, South Korea will find an alternative maybe Samsung based AESA for the Malaysian order.
Perhaps Malaysia is TEJAS as a ploy to get AESA and India is just trying their luck.

https://www.globaldefensecorp.com/2022/ ... 0-million/

Seems Lockheed Martin was the key to develop T-50, Tejas and Gripen, but due to Shakti tests we were the ones who had to build our aircraft outside the US ecosystem.

Just don't self flagellate if this deal does not go through, we are fighting against Lockheed Martin/ KAI partnership aircraft. USA will bring its APG 83 radar. The terms are never same for South Korea and India. USA/NATO offer them far more technology access than India can hope to get.
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Tejas Mk1A weapons list..so damn impressive!

JDAM-ER and Hammer PGMs are now clearly called out as part of the Mk1A weapons list. In addition to it there's the NG-LGB (which desi LGB is that now that Sudarshan is dead?), Griffin LGB, SAAW and HSLD bombs.

Astra Mk2 is not put as a future weapon, which leads me to believe that integration activities have been on-going for it.

Glad to see NG-ARM (Rudram-1), Brahmos NG and the NASM-ER! Tara PGM is also shown, which clearly is a glide weapon intended for stand off strike. Has anyone read anything about Tara prior to this?

Caters to all aspects of multi-role fighter missions including Fighter CAP, BARCAP, fighter sweeps, stand off strike, SEAD, DEAD and Anti Shipping which completely blows the non-sense assertion that the Tejas Mk1A is a point-defence fighter.

Only thing missing (and it could be an oversight) is the supersonic drop tank.

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Interview with Argentinian FAA Chief of Staff where he states that JF-17, Tejas and F-16 are in the running as of now. Use translate option on the top left corner

Article from Infodefensa

FAA to conduct a deeper analysis of the Tejas Mk1A by November and finalize it's choice by the end of 2022. F-16 seems to be a long shot, given lack of US interest in pursuing the sale as well as the incompatibility of the FAA's probe and drogue refueling system with it. Issue with JF-17 is said to be questions about Chinese logistical supply for the JF-17.

My reading is that the JF-17 may have the upper hand here since it lacks any British sourced parts, which HAL has promised to replace on the Tejas Mk1A offered to Argentina.
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At Defence Expo 2022 in Gandhinagar, HAL releases four Purchase Orders (MOU) for Tejas MK1A:
-With Bharat Dynamics for supply of 6 types of counter measure dispensing system
-With L&T for manufacturing 22 sets of Tejas Wing assembly
-With Laxmi Machine Works (LMW) Ltd for 40 sets of air intake assembly
-With VEM Technologies to manufacture 20 sets of Centre Fuselage Assemblies (CFL)
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https://twitter.com/alpha_defense/statu ... R1WHH17Cog ---> EW Suite and EW Pod for LCA Tejas Mk1A .

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Kartik wrote:Tejas Mk1A weapons list..so damn impressive! ....
Tejas with 2 Brahmos NG ???
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Kersi wrote:Tejas with 2 Brahmos NG ???
1) Please do not re-quote pictures when replying.

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Brahmos NG is expected to weigh between 1.3 - 1.5 tons. With 1.2 tons being the highest load carrying capacity of the hardpoints (innermost), I don't see how the MK1A can carry it

Even Rudram-3 might not be possible.
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Prem Kumar wrote:Brahmos NG is expected to weigh between 1.3 - 1.5 tons. With 1.2 tons being the highest load carrying capacity of the hardpoints (innermost), I don't see how the MK1A can carry it

Even Rudram-3 might not be possible.
Every hard point imposes aerodynamic performance envelop constrain on the flight control computer. Generally the hardpoint load is specified for permitted max G manuvere. No hard and fast one number only. So it feasible to carry a little more with FCS having tighter envelop onleee. One does not drive at 120kmph with pregnant passenger on board even if it is Autobhan.
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On track to deliver Tejas Mark 1A in 16 months: HAL chief

Ajay Banerjee
Gandhinagar, October 21

CB Ananthakrishnan, Chairman and Managing Director, HAL, told The Tribune at the DefExpo here, “For Mark1A, we have positioned all material. The engines are available and certifications are going on simultaneously. We will be in position to deliver the first plane on schedule in February 2024. We are even trying to advance the delivery of the first plane by a month or so.”


https://m.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/ ... ief-443564
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In the same article, it says that, per the contract, 3 MK1As have to be delivered by March 31, 2024. So, if they deliver the 1st one in Feb 2024, will they be able to deliver the other 2 by end of March?
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If HAL delivers in advance - It will become some kind of organizational rally call for HAL. It will give confidence to everyone ( to repeat the same with amca, mk2, tedbf and so on....)

Indeed I have this feeling (probably out of jingoism) that HAL could deliver first MK1A in 2023 itself, they just perhaps dont want to say it till they get there, closer.
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Re: Air Force Tejas Mk1A: News & Discussions: 02 January 2022

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Rakesh wrote:
Kersi wrote:Tejas with 2 Brahmos NG ???
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Re: Air Force Tejas Mk1A: News & Discussions: 02 January 2022

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YashG wrote:If HAL delivers in advance - It will become some kind of organizational rally call for HAL. It will give confidence to everyone ( to repeat the same with amca, mk2, tedbf and so on....)

Indeed I have this feeling (probably out of jingoism) that HAL could deliver first MK1A in 2023 itself, they just perhaps dont want to say it till they get there, closer.
YashG, Let us not put unnecessary expectations on HAL's assy line.
The reason is technical.

The learning curve is very steep for the first five to six articles.
Please take a look at any good Industrial Engineering text.
So rushing the deadline will jeopardize the later deliveries.

The CMDD has given the milestone they are sure to meet.
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Re: Air Force Tejas Mk1A: News & Discussions: 02 January 2022

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https://twitter.com/Varun55484761/statu ... dUPXjl4phQ ---> Advanced Self Protection Jammer (ASPJ) for LCA developed by DRDO. Active Antenna Transmit Receive Unit (AATRU) and Vivaldi Antenna Array Unit 32 manufacturing by Astra Microwave.

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Re: Air Force Tejas Mk1A: News & Discussions: 02 January 2022

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Rakesh wrote: https://twitter.com/Varun55484761/statu ... dUPXjl4phQ ---> Advanced Self Protection Jammer (ASPJ) for LCA developed by DRDO. Active Antenna Transmit Receive Unit (AATRU) and Vivaldi Antenna Array Unit 32 manufacturing by Astra Microwave.
Does this mean the Elta-8111 pod is out and the DRDO pod will be used as the SPJ? If yes, this would another major imported component out of the Tejas MK1A, after the AESA radar.
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Re: Air Force Tejas Mk1A: News & Discussions: 02 January 2022

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X-Post from MRFA thread....
Rakesh wrote: :rotfl:

https://twitter.com/Tej_Intel/status/15 ... MpGleBQEDw ---> IAF will issue an RFP for MRFA by mid-2023. Speculated in 2024 but this seems to be a year early.
https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/159 ... MpGleBQEDw ---> The inevitability of ordering more Tejas Mk1As will soon dawn on South Block.
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Re: Air Force Tejas Mk1A: News & Discussions: 02 January 2022

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Modi Sarkar will issue an RIP for MRFA in 2024
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