Russian-Ukranian War: Geopolitical Fallout

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Cyrano wrote: https://www.ft.com/content/01b69c54-d67 ... Gi4CydhTxM

For many outside the west, Russia is not important enough to hate
Indifference to Putin’s aggression in Ukraine has left western analysts flummoxed
Ivan Krastev FEBRUARY 22 2023
How about the fact that Europeans problems are not the problems of the rest of the world. Therefore, the rest of the world doesn't care about the European stupidity over Ukraine.
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protest in Berlin against giving weapons to Ukraine https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... to-ukraine
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only yesterday Z was ranting Putin will die in hand of someone insider, and now HC is ranting! what has changed! (HC looking like Soros) :eek:

https://twitter.com/imyourmoderator/sta ... 96257?s=20
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Is Europe finally coming to it's senses....


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also important is Saudi envoy visiting Kiev with $400M ghoons as incentive for peace talks, Saudi has sikn in the game and got 300 prisoners swapped from both sides not long ago. Hungary is openly siding with Russia. Germany we saw people offering roses to destroyed Russian tank behind rant & ramble NATO is deeply divided ..(what was Scholz in India for?)
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35 minutes long.

With the entry of "China" into the narrative, here is a view on what China can contribute (zilch)

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IndraD wrote:only yesterday Z was ranting Putin will die in hand of someone insider, and now HC is ranting! what has changed! (HC looking like Soros) :eek:

https://twitter.com/imyourmoderator/sta ... 96257?s=20
This is something that everyone should be wary about. If they can try this on Putin, they can very well do so anywhere else. And its usually someone in the close circle.
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IndraD wrote:only yesterday Z was ranting Putin will die in hand of someone insider, and now HC is ranting! what has changed! (HC looking like Soros) :eek:

https://twitter.com/imyourmoderator/sta ... 96257?s=20

I think that is from 11 months ago. Interview with Rachel Maddow.
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China, at the appropriate time, opens a can of worms:

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1630248158327349249
You might have never heard of cities called "Khaishenvai", "Boli" or "Shuangchenzi" as well as the island of "Quedao", because that are the official names according the Chinese Ministry of Natural Resources for Vladivostok, Khabarovsk, Ussuriysk and Sakhalin, "newly" introduced

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I cannot say that I'm surprised, aside that it happens a earlier.

When you look into (Chinese) history you will find the chapter of "Unequal Treaties" where parts of China were carved out and integrated into imperial powers, e.g. Britain, Germany, France, Japan and...Russia.

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All imperial powers have left China (feudal borders) some time ago - Portugal in Macao was the last - except for one:

Russia

Of course you will not find any discussion regarding this in China, for political reasons, yet, but the sentiment never disappeared.

This is way it is insane to discuss anything regarding "historical" borders or even justify wars and annexations with it. It will backfire at you, at anyone, and cause absolute chaos.

Putin is far more a liability then must people realize, especially for Russia.

Source for initial tweet:

Vladivostok – Khaishenvay, and Ussuriysk – Shuangchenzi: China claimed the rights to 8 cities of Russia
Feb 27, 2023:

The Ministry of Natural Resources of China presented a map of the world, which used Chinese names for a number of Russian cities. A circular on the printing and distribution of specifications for public maps appeared on the website of the state structure.

Judging by the document, Beijing calls Vladivostok Khaishenvai, Blagoveshchensk Khailanpao, Khabarovsk Boli, Ussuriysk Shuangchenzi, and Sakhalin Island Kuedao. The Stanovoy Range, a mountain range in the southern part of the Far East, is called the Wai Xin’an Range.

“The state borders of the People’s Republic of China are drawn in accordance with the standard map approved and published by the State Council. The historical borders of China are drawn in accordance with the actual borders based on historical materials,” the circular said.
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Yeah yeah, the Middle Kingdom thinks everything belongs to it. When you can invent history you can invent any argument and claim whatever you want. They have done this with Tibet, and with areas on Indian borders. And there are many other instances. The only response that works is force.
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Chinese foreign policy moves make zero sense, whether doklam or wolf warrior move.

And we keep tying ourselves into knots over wht n why they do.

Whatever makes sense, expect china to do something other than that.
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Brazil which was abstaining on UN voting on Ukraine has started voting against Russia on Ukraine in US favour after Lula Leli stole the election
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Brazil manipulated, SA in crisis. After EU, BRICS is the next target of the deep state.
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U.S. House panel approves bill giving Biden power to ban TikTok
"TikTok is a national security threat ... It is time to act," said Representative Michael McCaul, the Republican chair of the committee who sponsored the bill.
"Anyone with TikTok downloaded on their device has given the CCP (Communist Party of China) a backdoor to all their personal information. It’s a spy balloon into their phone."
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Great interview, with some repeat but definitely a new perspective.
From ORF
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https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/is- ... is-favour/

Mostly nonsense, but nonsense worth skimming through to get reinforced on the prevailing mindset in the UK - since it's not behind paywall.
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JE Menon wrote:Mostly nonsense, but nonsense worth skimming through to get reinforced on the prevailing mindset in the UK ...
Thanks for posting that, JEM. What makes this article interesting is the source -- The Spectator, closely tied to the Conservative Party and the conservative (with a small 'c') British establishment. (BTW, Boris Johnson used to be the editor-in-chief of the The Spec).

If The Spectator itself is saying this, it means the UK power-elite is trying to break the bad news gently to the gullible rubes on the street -- the war is going badly for the West, Ukraine is toast and the hated Putin is on the verge of victory.
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>>If The Spectator itself is saying this, it means the UK power-elite is trying to break the bad news gently to the gullible rubes on the street -- the war is going badly for the West, Ukraine is toast and the hated Putin is on the verge of victory.

And to supplement that: "We are not at fault, just that the barbarians just refused to go along, you know... We shouldn't have given into that half-naked fakir. Better luck next time, eh old boy? Now, where were we on that Africa plan Kissmyasserton?"
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Lavrov and his chamchas cackling in the audience was a first for me.
Manoj Joshi could not even ask one question on India Russia relationship, I would have loved to see Amb Venkatesh Verma instead of this comedy piece.
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Sunjoy Joshi is the name of the interviewer I think, gosh what a dud they put in front of a dude like Lavrov. Wasted opportunity.
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Cyrano wrote:Sunjoy Joshi is the name of the interviewer I think, gosh what a dud they put in front of a dude like Lavrov. Wasted opportunity.
Thanks Saar, my apologies.
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JE Menon wrote:https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/is- ... is-favour/

Mostly nonsense, but nonsense worth skimming through to get reinforced on the prevailing mindset in the UK - since it's not behind paywall.
Why nonsense JEM-Saar?
I think it is sort of 'mea-culpa', and the third-rated nation of the UK is preparing its street Abduls for not so great outcome of the Uki war they have been brainwashed for.
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EU plans to supply Ukraine with artillery ammunition in the amount of €1 billion allocated from the "European Peace Fund "within weeks. - Financial Times

https://www.ft.com/content/75ee9701-aa9 ... 51422280fd
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Biden - Olaf tu tu main main over insufficient ammo supply to Ukrops, Germnay might shift ammo production to US

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ify%20wall
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We will not allow to blow up gas pipelines again"

"Germany was humilitated, physically and morally"- Sergey Lavrov

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/statu ... 84931?s=20
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Nuclear bomb capable enrichment, oil, and now lithium. The West will have to accelerate the regime change in Iran.

Imo it is in India's national interest to restore relations with Iran.

Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve
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NATO Supreme Allied Commander. Never expected what we're seeing - Scott Ritter

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The Lithium story is turning the tables on those who were lithium rich in resources. The world powers were going to take advantage of those who did not have the resources and arm-twist them into submission with high costs and access issues. Now with India and Iran announcing large finds of lithium in their nations, a new equilibrium will have to be fashioned. Lithium becomes a commodity that has multiple sources and sane prices/controls will become the norm.
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Ukraine wants to strike & bleed Crimea with arriving missiles rockets, which may invite use of Parmanu by Russia that will be a unchartered territory, risk is real https://www.theepochtimes.com/us-norweg ... 96871.html
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Kati wrote:
Why nonsense JEM-Saar?
I think it is sort of 'mea-culpa', and the third-rated nation of the UK is preparing its street Abduls for not so great outcome of the Uki war they have been brainwashed for.
This is the West saying, things are not great, but it is not our fault - rather it is the fault of the others, Russia, etc. Relevant quotes & phrases strewn through the piece:

"Moscow’s diplomatic mission to build ties and hone a narrative over the past decade has paid dividends."

"Look at Africa... Their refusal to side clearly with Ukraine was testament to Russia’s ongoing diplomatic efforts in the developing world."

"Vladimir Putin is quite deliberately cultivating this alliance of nations who feel victims of western imperialism, and putting Russia at its head." (This is a flat out falsehood, he has said nothing of the kind, nor has any minister from Russia).

"Putin is a master of whipping up anti-American sentiment. In his address to the Federal Assembly last week, he referenced western military interventions in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya and Syria." (The suggestion is that these "interventions" were actually perfectly fine).

"Putin’s Russia even audaciously claims the high ground on racial discrimination." (Not quite, because Russia does not claim to be racism free, but neither does it position itself as a paragon of racial equality).

"Moscow thus presents itself as a bastion of stability in a world gone mad, even as it seeks to destabilise the world and make it even madder." (One would think Russia was the one which invaded all those countries in the past three decades. Russia did not expand out until Feb. 2022, and no Crimea is no more an expansion than POK would be if we took it back).

"Arms were another inducement, although poor battlefield performance in the past year has diminished its reputation as a weapons superpower." (One the one hand these guys whine about returning Ukrainian territories and on the other about "poor battlefield performance", while the head of NATO forces Europe says they "did not imagine" a war like this).

There's plenty more of such rubbish but I think this should do.
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if dishonesty had a face! NYT begins from why is Bakhmut important then degenerates into cacophony of how are 10,000 Russians dying/day, Putin losing, Russia evil etc!

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/03/worl ... ussia.html
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The humor of the day:

https://twitter.com/Levi_godman/status/ ... 9055128577
German Newspaper "Stern" -The Big Brother is back-

Vassal energy

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https://twitter.com/Levi_godman/status/ ... 4065097732
How Lavrov was welcomed in India vs Baerbock

{Click on the Twitter URL to see the video}
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfrTlBvstOw

The Duran is claiming that Modi/Jaishankar insisted that Blinken meets Lavrov for the Quad FM meeting going forward.

Does anyone know anything?
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Regarding Baerbock, she was very Gung Ho pro Pakistans last year stating that Germany will mediate as per Pakistani wishes
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Aditya_V wrote:Regarding Baerbock, she was very Gung Ho pro Pakistans last year stating that Germany will mediate as per Pakistani wishes
Green Peace, chick. Does anyone believe she or her kind can take responsibility for their nation in this situation?
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WRT, the Thomas Meaney article posted above and the Definition of victory for Ukrainian victory as access to common EU Market.

The cold hard fact is that Russians were open to that before the war began in 2014.

It's the EU that created the EU or Russia dilemma for Ukraine in 2013-14. That is the cause of the current mess.

If the Russians end the war on their terms. I would not be so sure that the Russians will concede anything to the west.
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If you have 24 minutes to spare. Some humorous straight talk:

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