Russian-Ukranian War: Geopolitical Fallout

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 27 Dec 2022 15:20

Vijaykji,

"Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad"

This is what the pakranians are selling! Read and 'try' to understand!!

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/euro ... y-zelensky

The 10-point peace plan for Ukraine proposed by Zelensky

1. Radiation and nuclear safety
Russia must immediately withdraw all its militants from the territory of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant. The station must be immediately transferred to the control of the International Atomic Energy Agency and Ukrainian personnel. The normal connection of the station to the power grid must be restored immediately so that nothing threatens the stability of the reactors.
The same goes for the crazy threats of nuclear weapons that Russian officials resort to. There are and cannot be any excuses for nuclear blackmail.

2. Food security
We have already launched the initiative, Grain From Ukraine... Ukraine can export 45 million tonnes of food this year. And let a significant part of it be directed to those who suffer the most.
Each country can join with a specific contribution and become a co-creator of the victory over hunger and the food crisis.

3. Energy security
About 40 per cent of our energy infrastructure were destroyed by the strikes of Russian missiles and Iranian drones used by the occupiers.
A related goal of this terror is to prevent the export of our electricity to neighbouring countries, which could significantly help them stabilise the energy situation and reduce prices for consumers.
I thank all our partners who have already helped Ukraine with the supply of air defence and missile defence systems. This allows us to shoot down some of the Russian missiles and Iranian drones... I ask you to increase respective assistance.
Price restrictions on Russian energy resources should be introduced. If Russia is trying to deprive Ukraine, Europe and all energy consumers in the world of predictability and price stability, the answer to this should be a forced limitation of export prices for Russia.

4. Prisoners and deportees
Thousands of our people – military and civilians – are in the Russian captivity. They are subjected to brutal torture.
In addition, we know by name 11,000 children who were forcibly deported to Russia. They are separated from their parents in full knowledge that they have families.
Add to that hundreds of thousands of deported adults... and political prisoners – Ukrainian citizens who are held in Russia and in the temporarily occupied territory, in particular in Crimea.
We must release all these people.

5. United Nations Charter and Ukraine’s territorial integrity
We must restore the validity of international law – and without any compromises with the aggressor. Because the UN Charter cannot be applied partially, selectively or at will.
Russia must reaffirm the territorial integrity of Ukraine within the framework of the relevant resolutions of the UN General Assembly and the applicable international legally binding documents. It is not up to negotiations.

6. Russian troops and hostilities
Russia must withdraw all its troops and armed formations from the territory of Ukraine. Ukraine’s control over all sections of our state border with Russia must be restored. This will result in a real and complete cessation of hostilities.

7. Justice
The world should endorse establishment of the Special Tribunal regarding the crime of Russia’s aggression against Ukraine and the creation of an international mechanism to compensate for all the damages caused by this war. Compensation at the expense of Russian assets, because it is the aggressor who must do everything to restore the justice violated by it.
We have already proposed a resolution of the UN General Assembly regarding an international compensation mechanism for damages caused by the Russian war. It is endorsed. We ask you to implement it.
We are also preparing the second resolution – on the Special Tribunal. Please join and support it.

8. Immediate protection of the environment
Millions of hectares of forest were burned by shelling. Almost 200,000ha of our land are contaminated with unexploded mines and shells.
I thank all the countries that are already helping us with demining. There is an urgent need for an increased number of equipment and experts for these operations.
Funds and technologies are also needed for the restoration of water treatment facilities.
Almost 200,000ha of Ukrainian land are contaminated with unexploded mines and shells.

9. Prevention of escalation
Ukraine is not a member of any alliances. And Russia was able to start this war precisely because Ukraine remained in the grey zone – between the Euro-Atlantic world and the Russian imperialism.
We should hold an international conference to cement the key elements of the post-war security architecture in the Euro-Atlantic space, including guarantees for Ukraine. The main outcome of the conference should be the signing of the Kyiv Security Compact. (The nine-page Kyiv Security Compact published in September calls for Western countries to provide “political, financial, military and diplomatic resources” to boost Kyiv’s ability to defend itself.)

10. Confirmation of the end of the war
When all the anti-war measures are implemented, when security and justice begin to be restored, a document confirming the end of the war should be signed by the parties.
States ready to take the lead in this or that decision can become parties to the arrangement.

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 27 Dec 2022 15:54

There are also demands for Putin to step down, withdrawal from Crimea and all other territories as defined by Ukraine, Nuremberg style tribunals of Russian army officers, handing over of all Russian assets seized in the West to Ukraine as war damages… The list goes on and increases every day.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 27 Dec 2022 16:16

The list must be sent to Santa Claus - that's the only hope

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 27 Dec 2022 16:28

Annnnnnnd we have a Russian response,

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/12/ ... r-own-good

Russia’s Lavrov issues ultimatum to Ukraine: ‘For your own good’

Fulfil Moscow’s demands, ‘otherwise, the issue will be decided by the Russian army’, Russia’s foreign minister said.

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 27 Dec 2022 18:29

Making the nazis the heroes.

I have seen a few YT docs on this group.
Now look at the UK's best selling paper trying to make them out to be heroes.
The comments are interesting/

Thousands of soldiers from Ukraine's Azov regiment gather to watch a Viking longboat burn at ceremony in memory of their fallen comrades

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... rades.html

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 27 Dec 2022 23:35

* Serbia goes on "high alert". NATO, supposedly, has told Serbia to remove the barricades. A 24-hour ultimate
* Ukrainian has requested the bombing of Iranian factories making drones (attack Iran)

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 28 Dec 2022 20:20

Poland has called up 200,000 of its citizens for a two-week "training".

Apparently, they have called up people from every profession: judges, doctors, policemen, nurses, janitors, etc.

Probably preparing to occupy western Ukraine (which used to be part of Poland - somewhat like PoK, but not exactly).

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 29 Dec 2022 00:04

Would NATO allow it? Otherwise, Pakraine will simply divert US$45 B and Euro 22 B to the western border. All will be quiet on the (Russian) western front. "And Quiet Flows The Don".

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 29 Dec 2022 00:10

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Poland

Ukrainians
During the second half of the last millennium, Poland experienced significant periods when its feudal economy was dominated by serfdom. Many serfs were treated in disdainful fashion by the nobility (szlachta) and had few rights. While many serfs were ethnic, Catholic Poles, many others were Orthodox Ruthenians, later self-identifying as Ukrainians and Belarusians. Some scholars described the attitudes of the (mostly Polish) nobility towards serfs as a form of racism.[33] In modern Poland, where Ukrainians form a significant minority of migrant workers, they are subject to occasional racism in everyday life.[34][35]

2018 FRA survey
In the FRA 2018 Experiences and perceptions of antisemitism/Second survey on discrimination and hate crime against Jews in the EU, antisemitism in Poland was identified as a "fairly big" or "very big" problem by 85% of respondents (placing Poland at the fourth place after France, Germany and Belgium); 61% reported that antisemitism had increased "a lot" in the past five years (second place after France, and before Belgium and Germany); 74% reported that intolerance towards Muslims had increased "a lot" (second place after Hungary, and before Austria and the UK); and 89% reported an increase in expressions of antisemitism online (second place after France, and before Italy and Belgium). The most commonly heard antisemitic statements were "Jews have too much power in Poland" (70%) and "Jews exploit Holocaust victimhood for their own purposes" (67%).[72]

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 29 Dec 2022 02:13

Vayutuvan wrote:Would NATO allow it? Otherwise, Pakraine will simply divert US$45 B and Euro 22 B to the western border. All will be quiet on the (Russian) western front. "And Quiet Flows The Don".

i personally think if polnd was to occupy portions of western ukraine which were formerly a part of poland , NATO would do nothing. I think it may be a good idea for putin to deal with the poles behind the scene . they are as greedy and entitiled as our baaki biraathers and their pakraine biraathers and will probably agree to deal with roos for more territory. this ll piss the german and european nato countries and breach the unity which is already showing massive cracks..i'd be surpised if russians have not got such an idea yet...other benefit of this for the roosis will be an effective end of the ukrainian identity. the folks who migrated will no doubt assimilate... all very unfortunate overall yada yada...don't condone wiping identity and all the standard disclaimers etc..

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 29 Dec 2022 02:32

As I understand it, there are a LOT of moving parts:

* Poland -> Ukraine. Then the natural follow-on
* Hungary -> Ukraine (very same reason as Poland -> Ukraine)

* Romania -> Moldova (oh, why not)

* Finally a few days ago NATO did issue an ultimatum to Serbia. The ultimatum has expired!! However, THE problem: some NATO members recognize only Serbia, and some only Kosovo. So, the question is which NATO issued the ultimatum and which NATO will send troops to confront Serbia?

On Poland, Russia had told Poland not to intervene - Russia actually had stated that Russia will intervene in Western Ukraine IF Poland swept into Western Ukraine. That was before Russia started dismantling Ukraine. Looks/seems like Russia has now changed her mind - let Poland deal with the yahoos in Western UKR seems to be the current attitude.

If all that was not enough, when Ukraine was given parts of Poland, Poland itself was given parts of Germany (and many Germans were driven out - talk of migrations). There are some right-wing Germans now wanting those areas back - including Gdansk.

So, who knows? However, eerily this is what pre WW1/WW2 scenarios pretty much looked like - Europeans quarreling with each other led to bigger fights. They are like that only - Alexander onwards.

I would highly recommend dismantling EU at the very least.

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 29 Dec 2022 03:40

U.S.-Trained Afghan Soldiers Angry Over Their Plight Are Ready To Join Russia's War Against Ukraine
https://www.rferl.org/a/afghanistan-sol ... 95876.html

It has been also reported that RU is deploying ethnic Uzbek and Tajik migrant laborers as new recruits at the front.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 29 Dec 2022 22:55

anti war protests to kick off in US from 19 Feb onwards

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 30 Dec 2022 11:19

High time. Both sides of the aisle have gone crazy.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 30 Dec 2022 16:06

https://www.rt.com/russia/569130-russia ... ia-france/
not surprising , Russia claims France is behind blocking RT news & other Russian channels on news views in Europe, it is afriad truth may come out if other side is allowed to speak much like US

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 30 Dec 2022 22:59

Russia’s Lavrov: West and Ukraine want to destroy Russia

* US-Russia ties have fallen to their lowest point in decades amid the fallout from Russia’s military campaign in Ukraine

The United States and its NATO allies together with Ukraine want to defeat Russia “on the battlefield” in order to destroy it, Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told the state TASS agency in remarks published Monday.

“The actions of the countries of the collective West and (Ukrainian President Volodymyr) Zelensky under their control confirm the global nature of the Ukrainian crisis,” Lavrov said.

“It is no secret to anyone that the strategic goal of the United States and its NATO allies is to defeat Russia on the battlefield as a mechanism for significantly weakening or even destroying our country.”

President Vladimir Putin launched his invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24, calling it a “special operation” to “denazify” and demilitarise Ukraine, which he said was a threat to Russia. Kyiv and its Western allies say Moscow’s invasion was merely an imperialist land grab.

The coalition of countries opposing Russia’s invasion in Ukraine — from NATO members to US allies such as Japan and Australia — has proven resilient, defying predictions that rising energy prices in part caused by the war could fracture the grouping.

Like most senior Russian officials, Lavrov has over the last decade adopted an increasingly hawkish position, supporting Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and railing against what he and Putin have called the West’s attempts to constrain Russia and dominate global affairs.

Lavrov reiterated that Russia and the United States cannot maintain normal connection, blaming the administration of the US President Joe Biden.
“It is objectively impossible to maintain normal communication with the Biden administration, which declares the infliction of a strategic defeat on our country as a goal,” Lavrov said.

He added that Washington’s “confrontational anti-Russian course is becoming more and more acute and comprehensive.”
US-Russia ties have fallen to their lowest point in decades amid the fallout from Russia’s military campaign in Ukraine, and the consequent imposition of Western sanctions.

The United States has provided billions of dollar in support to Ukraine, with the latest $1.85 billion aid package announced last week, further angering Moscow.

In Lavrov’s remarks published earlier by TASS, the foreign minister gave Kyiv an ultimatum to meet Moscow’s demands for settlement or the Russian army will decide the issue.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 30 Dec 2022 23:37

11-minute-long data point:

rahulm · Post by **rahulm** » 31 Dec 2022 01:54

An anecdotal (and prolly insignificant) data point - nevertheless:

Yesterday at my gym sauna, a Singaporean origin naturalised Australian who has been in the primary resources industry > 30 years and a global primary resources broker since the last few years said that there is now a robust Russia-China trade in Yuan. e.g., he said, China is buying Russian resources like coal, Lithium etc at 1/3 global prices - the quid pro quo is settlement has to be in Yuan.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 31 Dec 2022 05:24

rahulm wrote:An anecdotal (and prolly insignificant) data point - nevertheless:

Yesterday at my gym sauna, a Singaporean origin naturalised Australian who has been in the primary resources industry > 30 years and a global primary resources broker since the last few years said that there is now a robust Russia-China trade in Yuan. e.g., he said, China is buying Russian resources like coal, Lithium etc at 1/3 global prices - the quid pro quo is settlement has to be in Yuan.

* Cannot understand Russia selling commodities at 1/3 market prices AND settling in Yuan. ?????

* I do not think the shift in settling outside the USD is a threat in the near future - it should take the better part of 2 decades to overthrow the USD (without any US intervention, military or otherwise)

* However, what is an immediate threat - if one can call it so - is the result of a flurry of meetings between Russia and China. 1) Both have decided to work closely together (which is not a surprise). 2) What is a threat is Xi's statement that the efforts would be global and would focus on certain geographic areas. The two seem to have formed a "block". IMO a very bad miscalculation on the part of the Neocons across the globe - who had thought they could weaken Russia and then take on China. Well.

rahulm · Post by **rahulm** » 31 Dec 2022 06:19

^^^

The Pacific Island dominoes were always shifting but we may see an accelerated pace from China

Fiji's new PM Sitiveni Rabuka questions equality of relationships with Australia and US

Fiji's new Prime Minister Sitiveni Rabuka says he would welcome partnerships with China, but committed to "re-look" at Fiji's military relationships with foreign powers, in his first interview since taking office.

Mr Rabuka also chided traditional development partners like Australia and the United States for their "colonial" relationship with Fiji.

China and Fiji have had a longstanding relationship, with security and policing deals between the countries stretching back more than a decade.

"China has come in with a blank sheet of paper. They have seen us as just development partners," Mr Rabuka said.

At the end of the day it will depend on who writes Sitiveni the bigger cheque, as it always is the case.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 31 Dec 2022 07:20

I think on the political front:

* Assad/Erdogan meeting is crucial (at least to Russia)

The Def minister of Russia, Turkey, and Syria met in Moscow.

Next up is a meeting between the three foreign ministers.

And, if that goes well, then Erdogan, Assad, and Putin in Moscow

That is a big deal - pretty much the end of the Syrian crisis. (US not even a fly on the wall, which could have its own repercussions.)

* Iran/Saudi

They have been meeting in Viena for the past two years. Again, this is crucial for pretty much everyone in the Global South. But, this too means a (big?) blow for the US MIC. TBD. But have been meeting for TWO years

* The big kahuna in the room India/China.

The story is Russia has been very active in trying to arrange a meeting under the auspicious of the Russians.

Got to know today that the incoming Chinese FM was the amby to the US. The argument goes that China is trying to face off against the US. IF true, then would China let India slide for a few years? Dunno. TBD.

On the financial front:

* Will Saudi Arabia settle for oil in Yuan?

* Someone mentioned that the Chinese trade with the Global South is bigger than the Collective West. If true that has got to hurt the Neocons

chanakyaa · Post by **chanakyaa** » 31 Dec 2022 07:37

nandakumar wrote: ...
The commentator's analysis may turn out to be right in the end. But currently the hard numbers are not bearing out his assertion. The latest RBI data shows its bullion holdings of $40 billion is a mere 8% of total foreign exchange reserves. It has marginally gone up from 6% in 5 years time. What is the basis for the claim that we are cleaning out the world's stock of bullion?

Apologies for a delayed response. Had to take a much needed year-end vacación. At 8%, I wouldn't quite call it "Cleaning out....". Author's claim is based on the assumption that India is likely to play a leading role in the new alternative financial clearing system, which could be based on gold and as a part of it, will significantly increase the gold reserves over time. Ankit Shah is active on teeter (@ankitatIIMA), facebook, telegram ityadi and take questions.

chanakyaa · Post by **chanakyaa** » 31 Dec 2022 07:43

NRao wrote:March 22, 2022:

Zoltan Pozsar: We are witnessing the birth of a new world monetary order

He is talking of a monetary world order, not a political one....

Adding a video of Zoltan Pozsar on this topic from Nov 2022, hopefully complementing NRao ji's post in March.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 31 Dec 2022 07:44

nandakumar wrote: ...
The commentator's analysis may turn out to be right in the end. But currently the hard numbers are not bearing out his assertion. The latest RBI data shows its bullion holdings of $40 billion is a mere 8% of total foreign exchange reserves. It has marginally gone up from 6% in 5 years time. What is the basis for the claim that we are cleaning out the world's stock of bullion?

Could it be the people? SUpposedly Indians, in private holdings, have some 25,000 tons.

Just a thought

nandakumar · Post by **nandakumar** » 31 Dec 2022 08:20

NRao
Private holdings of gold is huge and steadily growing over the years. It is also true that such holdings dwarfs collective holdings of global central banks. Nothing has changed to justify the author's (Ankit Sharma) comment. That was my point.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 31 Dec 2022 19:00

https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/ ... isis-bills

meet the idiots of UK press, gas prices are below what they were before war but energy bill will not come down

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 31 Dec 2022 19:03

NRao wrote:I think on the political front:

* Assad/Erdogan meeting is crucial (at least to Russia)

The Def minister of Russia, Turkey, and Syria met in Moscow.

Next up is a meeting between the three foreign ministers.

And, if that goes well, then Erdogan, Assad, and Putin in Moscow

That is a big deal - pretty much the end of the Syrian crisis. (US not even a fly on the wall, which could have its own repercussions.)

https://www.rt.com/news/569231-turkey-s ... scow-akar/
Russia Turkey seem to have reached agreement on Syria

eklavya · Post by **eklavya** » 31 Dec 2022 20:15

Germany's Scholz urges unity in New Year's Eve address

"Many are worried about the war. We sympathize with the Ukrainian people who, even on days like today, have no peace from the Russian bombs and missiles," he said.

But, he added, "the history of 2022 is not purely one of war, suffering, and worry." Ukrainians are defending their homeland, "thanks in part to our help...and we will continue to support Ukraine," he vowed.

Germany is the second-largest donor, after the United States, to Ukraine and provided billions of euros in military, humanitarian and financial aid.

Scholz added that the European Union and NATO are more united than ever.

Germany welcomed more than a million Ukrainian refugees since Russia's invasion in February.

"Offering help in such an emergency is what makes us who we are. It makes our country a more humane country," Scholz said.

Germany refuses 'to be blackmailed' by Russia

The German leader noted the war was a "watershed moment" and a "tough test for us and our country."

"We are all feeling the effects of the war in our everyday lives, when shopping in the supermarket, at the petrol station, or paying our electricity or gas bills," he said.

But he said the country refused "to be blackmailed" and stands "more united than ever."

Scholz mentioned his government's efforts to store gas ahead of winter and to diversify its supplies.

He highlighted the construction of liquefied-gas terminals, the first of which he opened in early December.

"With these efforts, we are making our country and Europe independent of Russian gas for the long term," he said.

chanakyaa · Post by **chanakyaa** » 31 Dec 2022 23:36

NRao wrote: ...
* Will Saudi Arabia settle for oil in Yuan?

Looks like KSA has agreed to some pricing of oil in RMB to match the imports of STUFF from China, but not all oil exports. My guess is Chinese also may not immediately want switch either because their exports still earns them ton of fiat USD/EURO, which needs to be "spent" somewhere.

A Multipolar Shift with Energy and Dollar Disruptions (Victor Xing)

Executive Summary

In the near term, China’s reopening and buying of ESPO crude would likely erode the role of Brent & energy indices

Gulf nations envision the scope of petroyuan to be on par with demands for Chinese goods & technology transfer

Rising yuan payments for Russian energy and more China-Gulf bilateral trade imply future dollar demand decline

In the long term, more local currency trade settlements would erode dollar flows and Federal Reserve’s influence

(IMF) Currency Composition of Official Foreign Exchange Reserve

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 01 Jan 2023 00:05

eklavya wrote:Germany's Scholz urges unity in New Year's Eve address

Is there an end to Germany's cutzpah! Germany is reeling under severe energy crisis, it has spent half a trillion euros in securing energy for this winter (buying gas at higher price depriving poor nations of gas)and its economy is falling apart! here is a full report on how is Germany in downward spiral https://www.reuters.com/business/energy ... 022-12-15/
(btw same Scholz said few days ago Germany should be allowed business with Russia before/after war is over! https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ru ... 022-12-12/)

[on a side note DW is Germany's state media much like BBC of UK]

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 01 Jan 2023 00:16

Ukraine accuses India of supplying leather to Russia for military boots, Zelensky asks Mudi to rezin
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... war-effort

The Ukrainian government has in response accused India of giving Vladimir Putin a “loophole” against western sanctions and in a speech this week Volodymyr Zelenskiy, the Ukrainian president, called for India to be “more active” in efforts to end Russian aggression.

The Indian leather company Homera Tanning, based in the state of Haryana, was upfront about its dealings with Russia. The company confirmed it was supplying leather hides and leather boot products worth £830,000 each month to Russia and that two of the biggest users of its materials were Donobuv and Vostok, Russian footwear companies that are primary suppliers of boots to the Russian military.

Publicly available records from 2021 show Donobuv had contracts worth millions of roubles with the Russian government to manufacture military footwear. Russian government procurements are no longer public since the invasion but the company is so important to the war effort that its workers are exempt from conscription.

“Russia was a regular market like any other market, like China or Europe, but suddenly after the war there was a boost in demand,” said Tahir Rizwan, the director of Homera Tanning. “I think one of the reasons we had this boom was because the west was no longer supplying to them.”

Rizwan said the leather sold to Russian companies was a “particular kind of leather, used only for army shoes and for safety shoes for industries like oil and gas”.

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 01 Jan 2023 01:09

As I keep saying every time you think the level of entitledness of Pakraine cant get worse, we come across a new level.

Expect mudi shuld do rezine bleats from the usual suspects in India.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 01 Jan 2023 07:23

Sometime back I mentioned that there is a "financial" angle to the Ukrainian war. I found one of the videos: with Alex Krainer and Tom Luongo.

Somewhere in this video, Tom talks about the Powel-Putin game plan to tear apart Europe.

Gonzalo Lira video.

2.5 hours long.

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 01 Jan 2023 08:10

If the syrian crisis is settled and the Ukraine war ends with the expected outcomes (Russia capturing the Ethnic russian region and ukraine remnant being a depopulated land locked state) , than US would have failed to achieve a desired regime change in Syria as also failed to Hamper Russia in it's goals. Will be a pretty big blow for Unkil with implications far beyond h&d.

as much as I despise erdogan , I kind of hope he retains power in turkey for now...he is being a real pain for NATO,EU and Unkil

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 01 Jan 2023 08:16

^^^^^

Not a blow to "Uncle". Certainly the Neocons.

If we were to replace either Sullivan, or Blinken this whole thing could come to a grinding halt.

There are other, like Pompeo or Bolton. But none are as acidic as these two.

Be glad Trump won in 2016. If Hillary had come to power by now we would be either in Beijing or Beijing would be in DC.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 01 Jan 2023 08:16

If Russia accepts gold for oil, gold price doubles to $3,600, says Credit Suisse's Zoltan Pozsar

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 02 Jan 2023 00:07

IMO, the ball is rolling faster than a year ago!!

Poland and Italy ‘fed up’ with EU bureaucracy, PM Morawiecki says

Poles and Italians ‘want real democracy’ rather than a ‘European superstate,’ Mateusz Morawiecki says.

Compared to an old German goal:

German government will push for a European federation

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 02 Jan 2023 01:22

The World Economic Forum (WEF) has dropped Twitter and replaced it with the Chinese app from Panda!!!

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 02 Jan 2023 04:46

NRao wrote:The World Economic Forum (WEF) has dropped Twitter and replaced it with the Chinese app from Panda!!!

Wow

They are big evil as advertised

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 02 Jan 2023 05:43

I happened to hear parts of Putin's speech on New Year's day.

Essentially declared Russia is going it alone and that Russia is ready for the clean cut from the West. And, that the collective West is the enemy.