Russian-Ukranian War: Geopolitical Fallout

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Viktor Bout: the ‘Lord of War’ at centre of Brittney Griner prisoner swap
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... soner-swap

media is crawling at feet of Biden expectedly, would loved to have seen their reaction had Trump freed lord of war
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After the blurting by Vonder Lying (a german) of EU on death numbers in Ukraine, it is time now for Merkel blurting...

Merkel’s ‘confession’ may be grounds for tribunal – Moscow

https://www.rt.com/russia/567916-merkel ... -tribunal/
8 Dec, 2022
The former German leader admitted in an interview with Die Zeit on Wednesday that the actual purpose of the Minsk agreements was to give Ukraine time to prepare for a military confrontation with Russia. Merkel’s statements “horrifyingly” reveal that the West uses “forgery as a method of action,” and resorts to “machinations, manipulation and all kinds of distortions of truth, law and rights imaginable.”

A confession by former German chancellor Angela Merkel about the Minsk peace agreements could be used as evidence in a tribunal involving Western politicians responsible for provoking the Ukraine conflict between Moscow and Kiev, the Russian Foreign Ministry warned on Thursday.
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IndraD wrote:Viktor Bout: the ‘Lord of War’ at centre of Brittney Griner prisoner swap
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... soner-swap

media is crawling at feet of Biden expectedly, would loved to have seen their reaction had Trump freed lord of war
It is not commonly known but Victor Bout used to run supplies for the US during the Iraqi invasion.
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Oh, look what we have:

The rouble is soaring and Putin is stronger than ever - our sanctions have backfired

From The Guardian. By Simon Jenkins

:rotfl:
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vimal wrote:
NRao wrote:Xi in Saudi Arabia.

Taking bets on if a new reserve currency will be floated.
Something is cooking and if things keep heading this way US will have lost a massive sphere of influence.
Egypt Joins the BRICS New Development Bank
On Wednesday, Egypt ratified its participation in the New Development Bank (NDB) which was created by Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa (BRICS) in 2014.

Egyptian President Abdel Fatah Al Sissi's cabinet ratified the agreement establishing the NDB and Egypt's accession document to that institution, which began operating in 2015 in Shanghai. From there, the NDB finances infrastructure and sustainable development projects in areas such as energy, transportation, water, communications, and health.

"Since 2016, the Bank has invested in multiple projects, including US$7.2 billion in India alone," RT reported, recalling that Egypt expressed an interest in becoming an NDB member in July.

"BRICS is working to develop its own financial infrastructure, including a joint payment network, with some member states having already switched to trade in local currencies in order to reduce dependence on the U.S. dollar and euro," it added.

Currently, Egyptian President Al Sissi is in Saudi Arabia participating in the summit of Arab countries with China, the nation with the largest economy among the BRICS.

Egyptian Finance Minister Mohamed Maait affirmed his country's enthusiasm for enhancing cooperation with international development partners, especially in light of the "unprecedented development movement" he is witnessing in Cairo.

Previously, the Chinese Foreign Affairs Ministry has noted that Argentina, Algeria, Iran, Indonesia, Turkey and Saudi Arabia are also interested in joining the BRICS bloc.
Cannot find a date for the following (I do not have a twitter account):

https://twitter.com/PopescuCo/status/16 ... 4259023873
Bank Indonesia calls on importers, exporters to stop payments in US Dollar. China, Japan, Thailand, Malaysia have already agreed to use the mechanism of two-way payments and dedollarasing, with Singapore, Philippines planning to join the system.
EU, BRICS+ also dedollarising.
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Rajiv Malhotra has highlighted the bigoted stand of Harvard Univ dissing India, Hindus, supporting the discredited Aryan-invasion theory (remember that character called Michael Witzel) and now supporting wokeism, cancel-culture and in general being anti-Indian (read "Snakes in Ganga" book by Rajiv). In the same vein, we know how Twitter, Facebook, Google and other high-tech firms support liberal viewpoints, suppressing anything opposed to such viewpoints. Ukr - Rus war has taken the Ukr point of view, ignoring ground realities. After takeover of Twitter by Elon Musk, the "shadow ban" of users was willfully done. Musk now promises to reveal the "shadowban" status on each user. The platform previously engaged in concerted efforts to reduce the “visibility” of some users and limit their reach. “Twitter is working on a software update that will show your true account status, so you know clearly if you’ve been shadowbanned, the reason why and how to appeal,” Elon Musk said on Thursday.

Twitter’s decision in 2020 to suppress the reach of a New York Post story on then-presidential candidate Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, and his foreign Ukraine business dealings was made without the knowledge of Dorsey, who was reportedly kept out of the loop for many major decisions. The company’s top lawyer Jim Baker was fired by Musk earlier this week after he was found to have held up the publication process without authorization. Baker previously served as the FBI’s general counsel under Presidents Barack Obama and Donald Trump, and was heavily involved in allegations that Trump ‘colluded’ with Russia to win the 2020 presidential race.

Read more at
https://www.rt.com/news/567933-musk-twi ... an-status/
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NRao wrote:Oh, look what we have:

The rouble is soaring and Putin is stronger than ever - our sanctions have backfired

From The Guardian. By Simon Jenkins

:rotfl:
But is anyone listening? No European govt will ever admit a mistake and reverse policy. Thats why when things boil over, people reverse the govts here.
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"PM Modi to skip annual summit with Russia amid Vladimir Putin's nuclear threat to Ukraine"

https://www.livemint.com/news/india/pm- ... 11232.html

Disinformation from Bloomberg, relayed by mint I'd think...
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vimal wrote:
NRao wrote:Xi in Saudi Arabia.

Taking bets on if a new reserve currency will be floated.
Something is cooking and if things keep heading this way US will have lost a massive sphere of influence.
China wants to buy more oil from Saudi Arabia – and that could eat away at the dollar, a think tank strategist says
* China is willing to import more oil from Saudi Arabia, President Xi Jinping said Friday.
* That could spur "de-dollarization", if Saudi Arabia agrees to accept yuan payments.
* "This trend is already beginning," a think tank strategist said.
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https://twitter.com/TheLegateIN/status/ ... UpII0-KnQw ---> India will not be an ally of the United States but will be another great power, a top White House official says.
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Rakesh wrote:https://twitter.com/TheLegateIN/status/ ... UpII0-KnQw ---> India will not be an ally of the United States but will be another great power, a top White House official says.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/white-h ... er-3591378
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Rakesh wrote:https://twitter.com/TheLegateIN/status/ ... UpII0-KnQw ---> India will not be an ally of the United States but will be another great power, a top White House official says.
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Thinking out aloud, the Ukraine conflict pushes Russia closer into the Chinese orbit which is a -ve for us but does Russia have anything to offer us other than the veto ?


Their military tech has been badly exposed , 10 yrs from now we will look back at this war as the best thing to have happened to our MIC
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Vayutuvan wrote:
Rakesh wrote:https://twitter.com/TheLegateIN/status/ ... UpII0-KnQw ---> India will not be an ally of the United States but will be another great power, a top White House official says.
gnyaanodaya
The US has no conception of a relationship between equals. You are either a poodle or an enemy.

With the comment by the official about India becoming a great power. The US is setting a stage for active containment measures against India.

It can try to go alone. Or attempt to use Chi-Pak against India.

But India should no longer assume any cooperation with the US in any meaningful way.
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Atmavik wrote:Thinking out aloud, the Ukraine conflict pushes Russia closer into the Chinese orbit which is a -ve for us but does Russia have anything to offer us other than the veto ?


Their military tech has been badly exposed , 10 yrs from now we will look back at this war as the best thing to have happened to our MIC
Yes, just as Pakistan has been built up as a proxy against India, a strong Russia is one against Europe and US. This will give India time to grow and also continue Europe's de-industrialization.

Even though the tech may not be at the top of range, they are still pretty effective in capable hands.

A china, russia and Iran alliance next door will be a huge headache for us strategically.
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NATO chief warns Ukraine conflict could escalate https://www.rt.com/news/567997-nato-direct-war-russia/
A direct confrontation between Russia and the West in Europe could happen, Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg says

The Ukraine conflict could erupt into a full-fledged war between Russia and NATO, the military alliance’s Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg has said. He also claimed that NATO has been focused on avoiding a new global conflict.

“I fear that the war in Ukraine will spiral out of control and become a major war between NATO and Russia,” Stoltenberg told Norwegian broadcaster NRK on Friday, adding that “if things go wrong, they can go horribly wrong.”

“NATO’s most important task is to prevent a full-scale war in Europe, and that is something we work on every single day.”

The head of the US-led bloc however warned Russian President Vladimir Putin that NATO would defend its members. According to Article 5 of its founding treaty, an armed attack on one member state “shall be considered an attack against them all.” Stoltenberg said that Putin “knows that it’s one for all and all for one.”

After Russia launched its military operation in Ukraine in late February, NATO deployed 40,000 troops to its eastern flank, nearly ten times more than a year before. Moscow, meanwhile, considers NATO military sites close to its border as a national security threat and has warned that sending heavy weapons from the West to Kiev risks a direct confrontation between Russia and NATO.
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After the Price cap on Russian oil, Turkiye is stopping oil tankers carrying Russian & Kazakh crude for India and the West in the name of insurance.

A large no of oil tankers are awaiting in sea of Marmara.



https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/12/ ... il-tankers

Turkey seeks proof of insurance from Russian oil tankers
Moscow expresses concern over build up of oil tankers in the Bosphorus Strait as Ankara requests proof of insurance.


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Turkey says it has started requesting proof of insurance from tankers loaded with Russian crude oil as Moscow expressed concern about a build-up of oil tankers in the Bosphorus Strait.

At least 20 oil tankers queueing off Turkey face more delays to cross from Russia’s Black Sea ports to the Mediterranean as operators race to adhere to new Turkish insurance rules added in advance of a G7 price cap on Russian oil, industry sources said on Tuesday, as cited by the Reuters news agency.
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chetak wrote:After the Price cap on Russian oil, Turkiye is stopping oil tankers carrying Russian & Kazakh crude for India and the West in the name of insurance.

A large no of oil tankers are awaiting in sea of Marmara.



https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/12/ ... il-tankers

Turkey seeks proof of insurance from Russian oil tankers
Moscow expresses concern over build up of oil tankers in the Bosphorus Strait as Ankara requests proof of insurance.


Yoruk Isik
7 Dec 2022

Turkey says it has started requesting proof of insurance from tankers loaded with Russian crude oil as Moscow expressed concern about a build-up of oil tankers in the Bosphorus Strait.

At least 20 oil tankers queueing off Turkey face more delays to cross from Russia’s Black Sea ports to the Mediterranean as operators race to adhere to new Turkish insurance rules added in advance of a G7 price cap on Russian oil, industry sources said on Tuesday, as cited by the Reuters news agency.
This is just a sophisticated attempt to collect 'hafta' on the transit oil cargo using the pretext of EU price cap. Reminiscent of the behaviour of bandits on the old silk route a 1000 years ago.
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Atmavik wrote:Thinking out aloud, the Ukraine conflict pushes Russia closer into the Chinese orbit which is a -ve for us but does Russia have anything to offer us other than the veto ?

Their military tech has been badly exposed , 10 yrs from now we will look back at this war as the best thing to have happened to our MIC
I'm not sure if their military tech has been exposed. Their artillery, missiles, aircraft etc. have all worked as advertised. In some cases weapons platforms have been in use for almost a year. Their problem has been poor (almost non existent) preparation for war, the organization of their armed forces (conscripts and contract soldiers) and corruption. At the end of this conflict, I think some of the western game changing weapons will also be exposed (like the Javelin ATGM).

That said, if this conflict does not make us redouble our efforts at self reliance in defense production. nothing will.
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nandakumar wrote: This is just a sophisticated attempt to collect 'hafta' on the transit oil cargo using the pretext of EU price cap. Reminiscent of the behaviour of bandits on the old silk route a 1000 years ago.
Turkey does the same thing for Kurdish oil (itself stolen from the govts of Syria & Iraq) flowing through Turkey. Erdogan's son-in-law gets the biggest share of hafta.
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Need clarifications:

* How did "India" get into this Turkey game? Russian oil bound for India hardly goes through the Black Sea, which is why I am asking
* Turkey is doing the right thing. As of Dec 5, 2022 no oil tanker, with Russian oil, can have insurance from the West!! IF the Russian oil is bound for say India, the tanker needs Russian or a non-Wesyern insurance

As far as I know most of the oil is from Kazakhstan, not Russia and is bound for Western ports, not Eastern. So, imo, Turkey is screwing the West.
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NRao wrote:Need clarifications:

Russian oil bound for India hardly goes through the Black Sea, which is why I am asking
More info on this?
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Irish protest young men infiltrating villages running away from Ukraine war https://twitter.com/Yazzyinit/status/16 ... in3xU1f4dw

age old maxim- "my socialism ends at my front door"
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Another front could be opening in Kosovo/Serbia. It is heating up.

Perhaps, again, EU/US on one side and the global South on the other.
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Kosovo was wrested away by the US (started by Clinton Era) from the breakup of Yugoslavia because of its rare earth resources and other resources (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_r ... _of_Kosovo).
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Scholz Bhai itching to do business with Russia.

Russia could resume business with Germany if it ends Ukraine war -Scholz
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He seems to have a barren head on the inside too...
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Ukraine crisis: Who is buying Russian oil and gas? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-60783874

India and China have become the largest buyers of Russian oil as Western nations restrict purchases and impose sanctions.
What's the impact of sanctions against Russia?
Although the price of Russian crude oil is attractive, India's refineries have faced a challenge trying to finance purchases, because sanctions on Russian banks are affecting payment transactions.

One of the options India considered was a system based on local currencies, where Indian exporters to Russia get paid in roubles instead of US dollars or euros and imports are paid for in rupees. That hasn't worked out. :roll:

However, China's state-owned oil enterprises are increasingly using the Chinese renminbi rather than the dollar to finance oil purchases.
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^^^^^

BBC, what do you expect? The English have mastered the art of misinformation.
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^^ while India has been unsuccessful in local currency trade, China has succeeded (!)
In fact if you rummage through the UK media, it is full of people sympathetic to China.
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I don't think the news is factually incorrect. Did not we hear that first rouble-rupee payment will happen this week for the first time.
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The systems to use local currencies have been in place for some time now. Earlier this year India was paying for potash in Rs. Russia also sought to use UAE Dirhams too (Jul, 2022)

The problem is that Indian businesses have to be sensitive to Western govs imposing sanctions on them (for acting outside Western systems) and thus potentially lose Western business. After all the oil price cap and the refusal to let India use Western resources is India-centric. Just a few days ago Russia offered help to India to build a fleet of tankers - hardly a sign of a lack of trade in oil.

Brits have to make noise - that is all this is. Distract locals perhaps from what they are about to face.

And, it is not that Western govs are not purchasing "stuff" from Russia, they are. So is Japan, a G-7 member who has signed on to the oil cap, buying oil from Russia.
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fanne wrote:I don't think the news is factually incorrect. Did not we hear that first rouble-rupee payment will happen this week for the first time.
To supplement the answer, the problem is not so much the absence of a settlement mechanism. The rupee-ruble mechanism as such had been in vogue during the Soviet Era. While China can sell more cell phones and toys India isn't quite there. Or at least not as yet. There is not much complementarity to Indo-Russian trade and that too, at prices comparable to China, as yet. Then there is a bit of history too. Russia which took over Soviet era Rupee debt wanted these to be paid back in dollars. India was willing. But the problem was ruble had by then become a fraction in dollar terms of a what it was worth when a rupee-ruble exchange rate was originally fixed and rupee's relative value to the dollar then. Russia wanted the same amount now in dollars but at the old rupee-dollar exchange rate. But India said that would be against the terms of the rupee-ruble trade agreement. So India proposed, 'either you buy goods in rupees or take equivalent value in today's dollars'. To compound matters, Russia had by now lost all appetite for spreading communism in India. So subsidizing CPI, New Century Book House bankrolling the election of the likes of Krishna Menons etc. at inflated bogus imports from India was no longer an option. Russia took the money in dollars at then prevailing rates. So there is some history here.
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If you have 23 minutes, some great time-pass

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NRao wrote:If you have 23 minutes, some great time-pass


I saw half of it yesterday. It's wishful thinking. The entire channel is full of similar content.

An independent Scotland is more than likely to permit the residual UK to base it's military on it's soil for a fee.

Secondly, Nicola Sturgeon, the Scottish first minister who happens to be a woman. Cannot define what is a woman.

She is as woke as they come. So Scotland is not going to take any independent position when it comes to geopolitical situation.
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EU buying more Russian goods despite sanctions – Putin

https://www.rt.com/business/568297-eu-r ... ons-putin/
15 Dec, 2022

The bloc has been boosting purchases from Russia while banning their own exports to the country, the Russian president says
“It’s interesting to observe that, despite the sanctions, over the first nine months of this year, deliveries of basic goods to the EU increased by 1.5 times. As a whole, exports increased by 42%, while the trade surplus was up 2.3 times, to $138 billion,” Putin said.

The Russian leader also detailed the country’s overall grain exports, predicting they will amount to about 50 million tons in 2022. Russia plans to supply another 4-5 million tons of grain by the end of the year, he said, noting that exports of mineral fertilizers have already exceeded 25 million tons.
Mean-e-while Austria is claiming

https://www.rt.com/business/568251-aust ... s-imports/
Although dependence on Russian gas has decreased, but not from 80 to 20%, as some federal politicians want to convince us ... Rather, up to 40-50%,” Steinecker told the OONachrichten newspaper while commenting on previous statements by Austrian Chancellor Karl Nehammer. According to Steinecker, Russian gas which is imported by Europe "in detour" is then no longer “called Russian.” We are talking about “false labeling,” that’s “one hundred percent,” he stressed.

Almost half of Austrian gas imports are sourced from Russia, according to Werner Steinecker, the outgoing chief executive of the country’s energy giant Energie AG. Speaking to reporters on Wednesday he said statements that reliance on Russian 'blue fuel' has been reduced to 20% are simply not true.
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Request by Zelensky to be given opportunity to speak before WC final in FIFA has been declined in spite of pressure from US & EU

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... mailonline
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