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Dilbu wrote: Anyway in this conflict Russia has shown more willingness to accept casualties in exchange of maintaining its cards closer to chest.
My pessimistic take is that Russia does nor have many cards to hold closer to chest. This conflict is encompassing more of Russia's capabilities with each passing day and if they have any "trump cards" they might have used it already.
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Cyrano wrote:Missing the forest for the trees... Deliberately or not I can't tell. What's currently happening in Bakhmut, Soleda, Avidivka etc ? Ukr sitting back easy because RuAF is not bombing? What world are you living in man?
The blindness of the NATO fanbois who are so happy when the NATO chicken hawks get to devastate the whole world based on the 'rules based order ' but when anyone else tries to do the same rules based order, they are absolutely reviled. How is what Russia doing different from what NATO did in iibya/Syria/Iraq/Aghanistan [last 16 years]. In Afg at least there was a nominal threat, but all the other examples was just absolute initial land grab followed by cowardly run away after calling victory. yet the fanbois here criticize Russia for taking its time fertilizing a lot of Ukr soldiers . It's only been 5 months and they are already bleating about a Russian defeat. It's height of absurdity when the most alpha of the western warmongers, have been in Afg for 20 years and ran away. was in iraq for 14 years and then ran away. has been in Syria for 6 years and no one even asked them to go there. completely bypassed UNSC resolution in Libya and again ran away.

When the Ukr kep running towards the russian positions and sacrificing themselves , why the hell do the Russians need to move fast and extend their logistics tail? . They can so easily just wait for the Ukr Milliion man armies to come them and basically convert them to compost and enrich the already fertile Ukr soil [some jokers here said that Khserson was gonna fall coz of Million man army and other fantasy super weapons]

Right now the Ukr are getting bombed to smithereens in donetsk front, Bakhmit front and they are literally getting vaporized in Avidivika. These fronts are literally the most defended on the planet and the Russians have all the time to pound the opposition to dust.
At the same time, they are at the max only using up to 10% of their army and rotating and training them.

In the meantime, the vanguards of freedom and democracy and all things beautiful in this world, destroy their own economies, keep their populace cold /Hot, keep their populace broke with gas prices and rent increases and call Russia a dictatorship. It's just beyond hilarious.

A few months ago i had a ukr guy stay in my house. He was rah rah Ukr and his dad was in Mikoleyev , he sent me an update, both of uncles are dead and couple of his friends who stayed back in Ukr are dead as well. the amount of info suppressed in Ulr is spectacular.

But reality will find a way to make it's presence. In a few months when Russia who now controls about 20% of Ukr is now creeping up to 40 or 50% of Ukr, then the fanbois here will be like But Russia was supposed to be in Berlin by december

Let's understand some facts
part of Afghanistan held by US after 20 years = 0%
part of Iraq held by US after 16 years = 0.001%
Part of Syria held by US without even a war = 30%


So when Russia is down to 0% of Ukr in 2042, we can then call them failures.
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Post Images coming from strike (I am pretty confident it is work to missile with large warhead so won’t be suprised if it is work of Ukrainian Isklander aka GROM) , atleast 5 Su-30s and 6 Su-24s visibly destroyed, some are scorched so likely a write off and there may be more in storage hanger.

https://twitter.com/uaweapons/status/15 ... PNByEs1f0g
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^^^^^

I think it is sabotage. Internal.

Perhaps with some external help to boot.
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NRao wrote:^^^^^

I think it is sabotage. Internal.

Perhaps with some external help to boot.
In day light in heavily populated area without using any fire arms? I suppose anything is possible. There are some crater marks

https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/stat ... i-uqK5pRBQ
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Technology concerns imperil Gray Eagle drone transfer to Ukraine
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/0 ... e-00050573
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dnivas wrote:
Cyrano wrote: Let's understand some facts
part of Afghanistan held by US after 20 years = 0%
part of Iraq held by US after 16 years = 0.001%
Part of Syria held by US without even a war = 30%


So when Russia is down to 0% of Ukr in 2042, we can then call them failures.
Are you comparing controlling countries which are on the other side of the world with extending boundaries? Really? But even then, Russia already famously failed in Afghanistan.
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John wrote:Post Images coming from strike (I am pretty confident it is work to missile with large warhead so won’t be suprised if it is work of Ukrainian Isklander aka GROM) , atleast 5 Su-30s and 6 Su-24s visibly destroyed, some are scorched so likely a write off and there may be more in storage hanger.

https://twitter.com/uaweapons/status/15 ... PNByEs1f0g
Satalite imagery tells me that it was, either a commando action. Or handi work of multiple small missiles with incendiary warhead. Delivered very accurately. As the aircrafts were stored in improvised concrete pens and a single missile would not have done what happened.
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Pratyush,

Spontaneous combustion?
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Thermite grenade at the right places.

With or without a timed fuses.
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Raja wrote:
dnivas wrote:
Are you comparing controlling countries which are on the other side of the world with extending boundaries? Really? But even then, Russia already famously failed in Afghanistan.
Afghanistan
Hmm US had logistics support from Pakiban and all the other stans nearby. Also the taliban just used ak's and rpg's and yet the cowards ran away after 20 years and multi trillion dollars. let's see there was no mad dog country or union supplying weapons and manpads.

iraq:
The US spent about 6 months setting up troops in the neighborhood. Again iraq had no satellite support, no real air force and yet after 14 years the freedom and democracy pusher ran away .

So yeah i think if you discounted NATO support , there would not be a Ukraine now.

What I do not get is why the US does not get :
international condemnation for all the atrocities it commits
Sports bans or Visa bans
Overflight bans
expulsion from international orgs
and finally have so many rakshaks having different standards when it comes to anti democratic countries [US and Russia]. One of them is at multiple levels higher than the other in terms of war mongering, slaughtering civilians, destroying farms and fields and water sources, destroying marriage ceremonies, killing reporters. It's such a paradox
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‘We Need to Get Out of Here’: Fear Grips Annexed Crimea After Airbase Attack

The war has come to Crimea and it's beaches, the historical holiday spot for Soviet and Russian leaders and citizens. The Saki airbase used by the Russian naval aviators and before that Soviet naval aviators to train for carrier takeoffs and landings is damaged with about 9 planes destroyed and more damaged.
Towering plumes of black smoke were seen rising from the Saki air base in western Crimea on Tuesday afternoon, clearly visible from nearby packed beaches.

“There were about 15 explosions. It lasted around 30-40 minutes. Many vacationers were trying to find shelter — some people were hiding behind the trees, children were crying. People were trying to stick together,” said Ksenia Korkina, a Russian visitor to Crimea who witnessed the explosions from a couple of kilometers away.
If proven to be a Ukrainian attack, it will be the first major Ukrainian strike on Crimea — annexed by Moscow in 2014 — since the start of Russia’s six-month invasion of Ukraine. It is likely to seriously disrupt life on the peninsula, a popular tourism destination thought of until now as safe from the fighting, and bring the war closer to many ordinary Russians.
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Pratyush wrote: Satalite imagery tells me that it was, either a commando action. Or handi work of multiple small missiles with incendiary warhead. Delivered very accurately. As the aircrafts were stored in improvised concrete pens and a single missile would not have done what happened.
There seem to be large craters on the ground, which suggests incoming missiles with a fairly large warhead. It's not a handling accident, as there
were multiple craters. Casual observers are unlikely to have seen the actual missile.

Whatever it was, I think it is a dangerous escalation. Russia will look weak if they do not retaliate and there will be more calls for full mobilization.
As long as Russia takes these high profile hits and there is little progress on the battlefield, it will reinforce NATO's view that they can win this, by supplying more weapons. Russia knows that.
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How about an airborne directed energy weapon? Flying low and just within international waters...also explains the ridiculous precision.

Hard to see how they could have infiltrated, placed explosives, and gotten away undetected given the level of security and control that Russians exercise even ordinarily. Could have been done, of course.
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Or a weapon fired from aircraft from the Black Sea, there are a lot of stealth platforms out there.
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Most likely this was a salvo of MM-140 ATACMS missiles with a 300 km range which can be fired from Himars as well as the ML-270 MLRS. Officially Ukraine has not received any of these missiles but then again there was no mention of the AGM-88 HARM either being supplied until fragments of one with markings were found near a destroyed Russian S-300 radar site and then the Pentagon confirmed that HARM missiles were supplied to Ukraine. This salvo of an unknown number of most likely ATACMS missiles definitely contained a mixture of warheads, at least a couple of unitary >250 kg warheads which caused the craters where supposedly there were munition dumps for the airbase and then a few of the following warheads which would have caused the damage to the aircraft and cars:

https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/atacms/
The M74 munitions used by the Block 1 are Anti-Personnel/Anti-Material (APAM) weapons. Each is a round ball with a diameter of 0.06 m and a weight of 0.59 kg. They are wrapped in a tungsten fragmenting wall with a steel casing and incendiary pellets.
Also the ATACMS can have a tailored flight profile with a vertical terminal dive and that coupled with it's 24 inch diameter means it will likely not be seen by a casual observer as noted by Deans and if Russian AD was in a snooze mode, then they would have also missed it.
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Aditya_V wrote:Or a weapon fired from aircraft from the Black Sea, there are a lot of stealth platforms out there.

America recently send its Raptors to Poland . that would a direct escalation of war., what's wrong with them anyway, are they looking to go nuclear ?!!.. clearly that episode does not look to be within Ukrainian capability.

Hiding and striking, typical American tactic against a near peer adversary. Expect Russia to retaliate in kind.They are not stupid either. Ukes better watch out.
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ldev wrote:Most likely this was a salvo of MM-140 ATACMS missiles with a 300 km range which can be fired from Himars as well as the ML-270 MLRS. Officially Ukraine has not received any of these missiles but then again there was no mention of the AGM-88 HARM either being supplied until fragments of one with markings were found near a destroyed Russian S-300 radar site and then the Pentagon confirmed that HARM missiles were supplied to Ukraine. This salvo of an unknown number of most likely ATACMS missiles definitely contained a mixture of warheads, at least a couple of unitary >250 kg warheads which caused the craters where supposedly there were munition dumps for the airbase and then a few of the following warheads which would have caused the damage to the aircraft and cars:

https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/atacms/
The M74 munitions used by the Block 1 are Anti-Personnel/Anti-Material (APAM) weapons. Each is a round ball with a diameter of 0.06 m and a weight of 0.59 kg. They are wrapped in a tungsten fragmenting wall with a steel casing and incendiary pellets.
Also the ATACMS can have a tailored flight profile with a vertical terminal dive and that coupled with it's 24 inch diameter means it will likely not be seen by a casual observer as noted by Deans and if Russian AD was in a snooze mode, then they would have also missed it.
Not likely to be ATACMS as you need to be near frontline to hit this range (unlikely they will risk it like that) and also they haven’t been delivered. Also sources including Russian have noted it is either Sabotage or work of GROM.

Also reports that Russian airbase in Belarus was hit by a similar weapon taking out S-300s unf given its location it’s hard to get any confirmation but Russians claim the blasts heard by locals where due to exercise indicating there was something happening. Interestingly Russians where posting pics of S-300s being shipped to that location so it lines up with Ukrainian claims and blasts heard by locals.

https://twitter.com/whereisrussia/statu ... VdLDIKizTw
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I had posted earlier that it was unlikely to be a handling accident. However, there are precedents for this, which suggest it probably was.

In a US air base in the UK, the hot exhaust from an aircraft led to the accidental launch of a missile on the aircraft behind it. That missile destroyed the aircraft in front and led to a river of burning fuel flowing to a storage tank and then exploding. There were 4 hydrogen bombs stored nearby and quick fire fighting prevented a much larger catastrophe.

Another incident was on the USS Enterprise in 1969. Static electricity caused an explosion on an aircraft being loaded with ordnance. That set of a chain reaction leading to 300 casualties and about 20 aircraft.

In the Crimea incident, aircraft would normally be stored in hardened shelters. If they were parked fairly close to each other it could mean they were being loaded with fuel or ordnance before a mission.
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Haven't seen this posted here, an Aussie sharing his front lines experience in Ukraine, confirms what a shit show it is

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I have feeling like Afganistan in the 1980's US, UK involvement in this conflict is a lot more than publically available information, they have a lot of stealth aircraft in the black sea with JASM's etc, explains Ukraine 'a initial denials. Similarly for the Moskava sinking.

Russia doesn't seem to have answer to this. The black sea is where the West can be involved more easily and deny.
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Aditya_V wrote:I have feeling like Afganistan in the 1980's US, UK involvement in this conflict is a lot more than publically available information, they have a lot of stealth aircraft in the black sea with JASM's etc, explains Ukraine 'a initial denials. Similarly for the Moskava sinking.

Russia doesn't seem to have answer to this. The black sea is where the West can be involved more easily and deny.
There is no stealth AC flying over Black Sea no F-22 or F-35 have been deployed in any missions so far and they are not invisible to modern radar so Russians would have definitely tracked it if was used. So far only NATO has deployed only E-3s and P-8s in Black Sea which can be tracked in flight tracker for those who are interested.

Also JASM itself is slow enough that vids should have shown them hitting their target whatever hit it was too fast or was done by spec ops. Either way it shows ground level Intel that Ukraine has even in Crimea. It also illustrates lack of hardening of Russian military installation and in proper storage of ammunition.

Interestingly if this turn out to be GROM it is worth noting Russians attempted a similar strike at the start of war firing over 6+ Isklanders at Ukrainian Ozerne Air base. But due to lack of secondary explosion and lack of good Intel saved most of ACs there as confirmed by SAT images.

https://twitter.com/cen4infores/status/ ... 6ZrGQgSRFw
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Seriously, flight tracker would show.stealth aircraft without any radar reflectors ?
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kit wrote:Seriously, flight tracker would show.stealth aircraft without any radar reflectors ?
Yes if it has its ADS transponder on it can tracked. But let me clean up my comment little bit my point was only ACs NATO has deployed are surveillance ACs and those can be easily seen in flight tracker.
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You can bet your bottom dollar that *every* possible asset is deployed anywhere and everywhere around Ukraine. The US for sure, cannot speak for others, will never let such an opportunity to pass, to collect data. This is an extremely rare opportunity.

Taiwan situation too.

Arguably, the F-35 is one of the best assets to collect data.
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Russian civilians fleeing Crimea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt1SQrWafOE

I never thought I'd see this. This Russian woman is in tears over the once unthinkable prospect that Ukraine could retake Crimea, and it's really not that farfetched any more. This has me wondering how Putin's administration can resist the temptation to use nuclear weapons if this actually came to pass.
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The report from the Telegraph is pure propaganda. That does not seem to be Crimeans leaving the area, but mainland Russian tourists who visit the area in the hundreds of thousands in these months. They have twisted tourists leaving to an exodus from Crimea which is not the case. My own BIL and family were there earlier this month. Wife's best friend is a Crimean. No way on earth the Crimeans are leaving as refugees as implied in the report. Furthermore, no chance of the Ukrainians taking back the Crimea either. They will be slaughtered without nukes, as is the case already.

The only way the Ukrainians will be able to challenge Russian hold on Crimea at this point is if NATO gets directly involved with ground troops. Highly unlikely. And if that happens, nuclear war will surely be closer, but it will be a global one - not one in which the Russians strike Ukraine with a nuclear weapon. They don't have to.

The attack on the airfield (I still think it is an attack, not an "accident") seems to have been done with close-in US/British supervision using some shock-and-awe system, in order to get some high profile distraction from the disaster now underway for the Ukrainians in the western parts of the Donbass - Zelensky has earlier today, according to the Telegram channel IntelSlava Z, "issued a command to withdraw local administrations, military registration and enlistment offices from Zaporozhye, Nikolaev and the cities and towns of Donbass and take out all the documentation."

My own estimate of Ukrainian Armed Forces deaths so far is around 60K...
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JE Menon wrote:The report from the Telegraph is pure propaganda. That does not seem to be Crimeans leaving the area, but mainland Russian tourists who visit the area in the hundreds of thousands in these months. They have twisted tourists leaving to an exodus from Crimea which is not the case.
My own estimate of Ukrainian Armed Forces deaths so far is around 60K...
Quite right. Russians have been holidaying in Crimea when it was part of Ukraine and now, in large numbers, particularly in this season.

If Ukraine tries to take over Crimea, it will be regarded as an attack on Russia and the nuke option will be on the table. Irrespective of what Russians think of Putin, they believe Crimea is an inseparable part of Russia.

There are 2 sources of data that validate Ukrainian casualty figures. There were recently leaked documents (purportedly from the Ukrainian army) saying they had 190k irretrievable casualties by 1 Aug. Using a 1 : 3 ratio of dead : seriously wounded, it would be 47.5k dead. However:
- Because of the inability to evacuate wounded (due to heavy artillery fire and breakdown in medical services) the no of dead may be more.
- Add another 3000 dead so far this month

This figure includes missing believed killed, but its not clear if it includes POW and deserted. If it includes POW, the no of killed/wounded would
decrease. For e.g. 20k POW would reduce the no of dead by 5000.
Russian MOD does not provide complete figures of Ukrainian personnel losses. Rough calculations of losses of individual brigades and past loss figures
would give an estimate of 40,000+ dead.
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^ It would hard to hide such high losses Last pentagon briefing put Russian casualty at around 80k incl injuries.

Best way to see it would be Russian to Ukrainian loss ratio for vehicles that seems to be around 3-4 to 1 same is likely true for casualties as well. Given both sides are using pretty much using similar armor and gear. Currently there are about 5000 Russian vehicle losses and about 1400 Ukrainian vehicle losses. So probably around 20k would be my guess.


Latest SAT images do confirm that Ziabrovka airfield in Belarus explosion was due to an accident quite don’t know what jet was involved it but official story does check out.
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John wrote:^
Best way to see it would be Russian to Ukrainian loss ratio for vehicles that seems to be around 3-4 to 1 same is likely true for casualties as well. Given both sides are using pretty much using similar armor and gear. Currently there are about 5000 Russian vehicle losses and about 1400 Ukrainian vehicle losses. So probably around 20k would be my guess.
The majority of losses since April have been from artillery. If Russia fires several times more shells and rockets than Ukraine (I don't believe the 10:1 figure that Ukraine gives) the losses for Ukraine will be proportionate.

I think the West has been talking up Russian losses. More credible estimates are `upto 15k killed' by the CIA chief and 12-13000 dead by a couple of think tanks that had some intellectual rigor in the process. The UK monitored military funerals in Russia and came up with a figure of 4500 dead Russian servicemen a month ago. The DPR/LPR militia had a similar no of dead. Adding Chechens/ Wagner group and extending this for another month, it would be 12,000 dead, with total casualties (assuming 1 dead = 3 wounded) at 48,000 There are negligible POW's
Taking a 4 : 1 ratio of wounded : dead, it would be 60k casualties.
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Many foreign mercenaries interviewed have regularly mentioned friendly fire causing Ukr casualties, not just enemy shelling. Battlefield intelligence and mission planning is also often cited as absent or not shared. All that they are being asked to do is hunker down in bunkers until the Russian arty gets them or any surviving stragglers are swept up or surrender or run away. That's the nature of an unwinnable defensive trench war I guess.
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Cyrano wrote:Many foreign mercenaries interviewed have regularly mentioned friendly fire causing Ukr casualties, not just enemy shelling. Battlefield intelligence and mission planning is also often cited as absent or not shared. All that they are being asked to do is hunker down in bunkers until the Russian arty gets them or any surviving stragglers are swept up or surrender or run away. That's the nature of an unwinnable defensive trench war I guess.
Russian (and Ukraine pre war) doctrine is for officers to be at the front, personally leading their men. That's also because Soviet officers historically could not trust info they got at HQ. NATO doctrine is for officers (at Battalion commander level) to sit at HQ (because NATO communication enables you to talk easily to those at the front). This has apparently been implemented in the Ukraine army.
There are a lot of cases of Ukrainian soldiers complaining that their officers have abandoned them and are sitting at HQ with no clue of what is happening at the front, or to what extent they are being hit by artillery.

It also explains why Russia lost a relatively large number of senior officers in phase 1 - though Ukrainian senior officer losses are now reportedly higher from missile strikes at HQ locations.
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It also explains why Russia lost a relatively large number of senior officers in phase 1 - though Ukrainian senior officer losses are now reportedly higher from missile strikes at HQ locations.
Any names so far I can recall only one high level officer getting killed and that was in fighting in the east couple weeks ago and another top brass who decided to pilot Su-24 due to lack of pilots in May I think, most of ones atleast from Orbat list are still active or have been replaced by Zelensky.

Anyway this is interesting footage you can see S-300/400 being used to intercept HIMARS but it looks like it hits its target . There is lot of arm chair analysis going on I can’t say if they there any successful intercepts (atleast good amount of self destructs).

https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/stat ... 98HqfWBmMQ
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One got through but from the video there lots of incoming rockets. The power of saturation attacks.
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John wrote:

It also explains why Russia lost a relatively large number of senior officers in phase 1 - though Ukrainian senior officer losses are now reportedly higher from missile strikes at HQ locations.
Any names so far I can recall only one high level officer getting killed and that was in fighting in the east couple weeks ago and another top brass who decided to pilot Su-24 due to lack of pilots in May I think, most of ones atleast from Orbat list are still active or have been replaced by Zelensky.
Russian channels publish the names of senior Ukrainian officers dead (with pic and ID), regularly.
Yesterday: Air force Col Ivan Ivanovich Sholomiy & CO of 20th Spl forces brigade Vlodomyr Torogoy.

In the missile attack on an officers club some time back, Russia was able to substantiate its claim that several senior officers and western arms supplier / NATO reps were killed, by publishing the names of the Ukrainian officers killed.
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Aditya_V wrote:One got through but from the video there lots of incoming rockets. The power of saturation attacks.
I doubt very much if destroying a bridge (assuming they do) is going to isolate the Russians west of the Dnieper. Pontoon bridges are in operation
near each of the 3 bridges that are being attacked and a ferry service is operating (ferry large enough to transport tanks). I think the attacks are only depleting HIMARS rockets and exposing the HIMARS (or Tockha) to attack. Pontoon bridge sections which are destroyed can be replaced.

The Dnieper is wide and has swift currents at Kherson, but that is something I assume Russian bridging units train for.
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Deans wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:One got through but from the video there lots of incoming rockets. The power of saturation attacks.
I doubt very much if destroying a bridge (assuming they do) is going to isolate the Russians west of the Dnieper. Pontoon bridges are in operation
near each of the 3 bridges that are being attacked and a ferry service is operating (ferry large enough to transport tanks). I think the attacks are only depleting HIMARS rockets and exposing the HIMARS (or Tockha) to attack. Pontoon bridge sections which are destroyed can be replaced.

The Dnieper is wide and has swift currents at Kherson, but that is something I assume Russian bridging units train for.
Let me try to see if those names are there I don’t see them in list of Ukrainian sr mil officials unless they are too low or new.

As for HIMARS keep in mind Ukrainians are also putting into service there own MRLS called Vilkha and their attacks have been reported as HIMARS. Unlike with artillery, MRLS are who different ball game when it comes to countering them unless you have planes up in air you are not going to counter either one that’s why USAF dedicated a significant amount of its fleet to hunting down SCUDs and Scarabs. In spite of all attack so far no one of HIMARS are taken out.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVx3Nlifo4Q

Good one on Ukrainian mobilisation. The whole Youtube series by Perun is very informative.
My takeaway from this is that Ukrainian morale and combat power is still high, which is why units are not disintegrating despite sustained
artillery bombardment and presumably high casualties.
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