Russian-Ukrainian War: Combat Tactics & Strategy

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IndraD wrote:votes were held in Luhansk and Donetsk in the east, and in Zaporizhzhia and Kherson in the south https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63072113

it doesn't appear to be part of annaexed ukraine into Russia .
The annexation is of the regions by those names, not of the cities by those names. Lyman is very much in the north of the Donetsk region, which is one of the annexed regions. See map 3 in the link below:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... on-russia/
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Cyrano wrote:Well that's terrible. It is not far from Luhansk city.
agree. pro Ru handles also worried and clueless regarding whats going on
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Now the question is what can russia do operationally different to what they have been already doing. They have been very reluctant to throw more forces. NATO has figured out Russia and now pretty much knows everything they will do.

There has not been much response from west after the annexation announcement.
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vinod wrote:Now the question is what can russia do operationally different to what they have been already doing. They have been very reluctant to throw more forces. NATO has figured out Russia and now pretty much knows everything they will do.

There has not been much response from west after the annexation announcement.
Russia will only pray that general winters sets in early. They have no strategy anymore and until Putin is removed Russia will continue it's march towards to a country in ruins. This is what happens if corruption and nepotism poisons military and political leadership.
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New videos coming out of Ukrainians torturing Russian POWs from around Lyman. Great work RU MOD All the consequences will be felt by regular Mykolas btw https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1 ... v3rEIl9sLA

FWIW the Ukrainian territorial gains from the Kherson counteroffensive have now been reduced to 0. At least in the South RU command knows what they're doing. https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1 ... v3rEIl9sLA

80-90% of regular Russian Armed Forces troops are in Kherson & Zaporozhye oblast for the last 3 months doing ****** knows what and waiting for some kind of order. All fighting is done by Donbass militias, BARS volunteer battalions and Wagner. I have no idea what they're waiting for https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1 ... v3rEIl9sLA
some confusing signal!
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Fake news weaponised! Telegraph publishes a fake news without link to Ramzan Kadyrov' letter in telegram

Unleash nuclear weapons on Ukraine in wake of defeat in Lyman, Chechen warlord tells Putin
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... nnexation/
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sohamn wrote:
vinod wrote:Now the question is what can russia do operationally different to what they have been already doing. They have been very reluctant to throw more forces. NATO has figured out Russia and now pretty much knows everything they will do.

There has not been much response from west after the annexation announcement.
Russia will only pray that general winters sets in early. They have no strategy anymore and until Putin is removed Russia will continue it's march towards to a country in ruins. This is what happens if corruption and nepotism poisons military and political leadership.
I don't understand the obsession on Putin, as if Putin did it for himself and because of some delusion. He could have easily lived his rest of his life in peace.

He had a choice to make, whether to try and control ukraine now or lose Crimea soon and lose black sea access as well, the Russia's means of power projection. He chose to give it a shot now after covid when nations were struggling. But NATO was very well prepared. The rot in his defence got exposed. This was clear from the day 1 when the intelligence was a complete failure.

Any russian president would have to take this choice, if they want to remain as a decent power. Break up of Russia and then carving up its immense natural resources has been the goal always. We just have to see what moves happen during this winter.

If Russia falls, imperialism will be back in full force. US will remain hegemony for considerable time.

Either way, China and India would have tough choices to make in near future.
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On vacation so have missed a lot of discussion.

I do not think the losses mean more than a hurt pride. Russia has gained a lot and after the Nord Stream explosions even European nations, as individuals, will have to make extremely difficult decisions. Decisions in which these losses will not even have any meaning.

With his speech yesterday, Putin has cut pretty much all relationships with Europe. Europe has no cards against the US. It is Europe's loss.

One can hear commercials on popular radio shows, in Chicago at least, that the US Dollar could be gone and people need to invest in better vehicles than stocks. I tend to agree.

RUSI: Vladimir Putin’s Speech – Scrutinised
Third, developments on the battlefield notwithstanding, the fact that Putin has ordered the partial mobilisation is a signal that he has bowed somewhat to pressure from hardliners within the Kremlin, who have been pushing for a form of this for some time, and believe he is not going far enough in Ukraine.
Putin is a dove. Hardliners in Russia are very slowly winning. If they go any further, the Hardliners on both sides will be in control.
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NRao wrote: One can hear commercials on popular radio shows, in Chicago at least, that the US Dollar could be gone and people need to invest in better vehicles than stocks. I tend to agree.
N Rao ji, Conservative radio has this scam going on for decades where they advertise all sorts of new schemes to get suckers buy their products. It ranges from Gold coins with patriotic messages tagged on them to these weird bonds that are underwritten by some conservative churches. I would not put much faith into these commercials.
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Good video on Russian mobilisation and its problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hXnQNU8ANo
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There was talk of 5000 Russian troops being encircled. But even after the fall of Lyman I haven’t seen reports of massive Rusdian POWs except for some torture reports. I take it there was no surrender in massive numbers in that area?
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Propaganda! If there were 5000 Russian troops why would they surrender/evacuate when faced with 6000-8000 Ukranian troops, with Russian reinforcements coming?
From some other reports it was more like 600 Russian troops holding Lyman, composed of mostly DPR/LPR militias. When RA reinforcements arrived, they evacuated during the night. Very few casualties, perhaps no PoWs.
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Cyrano wrote:Propaganda! If there were 5000 Russian troops why would they surrender/evacuate when faced with 6000-8000 Ukranian troops, with Russian reinforcements coming?
From some other reports it was more like 600 Russian troops holding Lyman, composed of mostly DPR/LPR militias. When RA reinforcements arrived, they evacuated during the night. Very few casualties, perhaps no PoWs.
There were apparently 5000 in the whole Lyman sector, not in the town of Lyman, which had 5-600 men. Most of them were LPR militia. There was
a battalion equivalent of Russian army. Outside the encirclement Russian army units were available, along with artillery support.
They had kept the corridor open, to enable the Lyman garrison to retreat in an orderly way.
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Kherson front is collapsing as well. Ukraine wants this done by winter. Winter is going to be worse for Russia.
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Ukraine had it's shot and it's played it well. Bolstered it's support in the west which was flagging towards a losing war and opens up a pipeline of new weapons. Issue is now the Russians are moving towards taking the war as an actual crisis, which means Putin is under pressure to show real results. The Russians will go all out now. The additional troops should allow them to move more combat troops up front while the newbies, mobilised types take up more rear echelon, logistics and other duties. The war will only get more brutal from this point on, and all depends on how long the US can continue to finance the Ukrainians. Europeans bar the Baltics are already showing signs of fatigue and the other lynchpin of Ukrainian support, the UK is now in it's own troubles.
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KaranM,

Your point is well made but fundamentally it should not have come to this.

I started this thread to understand combat tactics and how it feeds into the broader strategy but a lot of what I observed was “head scratch” inducing.

Yes the Russians are now able to get more men in and I believe and hope will prevail decisively the fact remains that as a combat force the Russian army has been exposed - quantitatively and qualitatively - this includes broader strategy and more localised tactics.

A lot of this rot has to do with the corrupt system that Putin runs. The Chinese r the same I believe BTW.
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The basic issues are that the Russian Army didn't engage in the kind of deep reform they needed and nor did they have the finance that they required.

IMHO the Russian state spent far too much of it's oil revenue on strategic weapons. They decided homeland defense and nuclear deterrence were the key things to focus on.

It's a lesson for India too. Our establishments too tend to caught up in pushing war as a political/signaling exercise till they are caught up in one. Current spending on defence is extremely suboptimal. I have stated this multiple times before so won't belabor the point.

The lack of reform meant many units were operating at reduced training, competence levels, whereas the showpiece units got the best kit, readiness etc. Guards units basically were the favored elite.

Putin didn't do enough to reform the Russian Army either. They did do a lot of reform in their EW, comms and SAM networks but there is more to an Army than it's equipment alone. There were continued complaints that Russian NCO equivalents didn't do enough to impart skills to their trainees.

But all that is likely water under the bridge. Their regulars will be combat hardened now.

So the conflict was initially run with a lot of the former, regular line units. Some did well, some didn't, staff failures also existed. Poor tactics due to fewer infantry than necessary (an Intel, staff planning failure), logistical hassles (ditto), poor tactics (see above regarding underfunded line units) meant exposed columns were subject to guerilla attacks giving Ukraine an infowar bonanza and also subjected the Russian army to high loss rates of expensive kit.

The lack of focus on tactical systems meant the RusAF didn't have the force multipliers or weapons systems it needed to gut the Ukrainian SAM network or once NATO got into play, run a MANPADS safe air strike campaign. The lob bombs and turn around method used by both sides reduced efficacy.

Even so, they've fired over 4K smart weapons from ballistic missiles to PGMs to cruise missiles.

Again, since we are being critical here, they have been hampered by lack of real time connectivity between different parts of their kill chain.

Having said all this, we have to acknowledge their tremendous resilience and canny thinking.

Despite sanctions they have withstood the pressure and are still fighting. This was the most tremendous deployment of every pressure used against them, yet, still there. We are talking physical war. The economic war unleashed on the Russian state was meant to be devastating but they've withstood it. This is the biggest lesson for India. Learn, replicate.

Next, everytime they saw a reverse, they changed tack and fixed their prior mistakes. Their initial attacks on elite Ukrainian units were classic combined arms. Devastated Ukrainian units.

Their paratrooper elite, despite high casualties, routinely took on heavy units and flanked, blocked them, setting them up for air power.

They integrated their AD well into their campaign making the Bayraktar and other UAVs an expensive flop for the Ukrainians. Used their EW very well to create multiple grids to hit the Ukrainians round the clock. Make a mistake, get hit. The Ukrainians figured this out the hard way while western sources were busy claiming the Russian EW was ineffective.

Figured out high UAV attrition was hampering their ISR, got the Iranians involved and got huge numbers of both attack drones and regular ones per reports.

Had designed their key systems to be cheap, rugged, built around hard to sanction COTS gear. Probably have backups from China coming in as we speak.

Moved to an arty heavy heavy campaign. To safeguard weapons stocks while they rebuilt sanctioned microprocessor, component supplies, they moved the attack vector to more and more "dumb" ordinance.

Used irregulars on contract basis (PMC) to back up the regular forces. Held off on mobilisation till absolutely necessary. Used their new provinces as manpower sources, cynical but pragmatic. Even brought in the Chechens.

Ran combined helicopter and fighter ops. Older gen units which couldn't do proper recce or targeting with newer gen ones. The newer units acted like pathfinders. Brought back veterans to stiffen regular units.

Their key weakness has been inability to hold ground with lack of infantry, BTGs are mechanised. So they used this vs the Ukrainians, suckered them into kill zones and then hit them round the clock with artillery. The Ukrainians have responded with equal brutality and pragmatism (towards their own). They use their untrained recruits as cannon fodder to man fixed defenses while their regular military are the elite intended to either conduct or foil Russian advances. Brutal methods but then again, they were out of options.

The current Ukrainian offensive has succeeded due to the Russian inability to hold ground (lack of infantry support). The mobilisation is intended to address this. Time will tell if it's successful as it was intended.

Meanwhile, lessons galore for India including the fact that sustained month long conflicts are possible and we need to be prepared for the same.

Drones are now ubiquitous. The side with the better kill chain and C3I has huge advantages. And mass induction of precision ordnance is a must. Many more lessons as well, including need to ensure all units are heavily rotated through intense training schedules (which we do well but shouldn't drop either).

The most basic thing is conflict can break out anytime and we have to be prepared for it on a war footing too. That is the part the political establishment must understand.
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Karan and JeM saars. Take a bow. One for providing tree top level analysis and lessons, and another for 30k feet map.
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This is a very interesting article on what Russia might be planning. It is mind boggling to me, as to how Ukr seems to be winning at the moment.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... just-begun
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While the winter will squeeze the EU balls what are the tactical implications for ops from a Russian perspective?

My take is that the frozen grounds will aid Russian armr and together with the increased inf strength due to the mobilisation we are likely to see more aggressive Russian ops. This combined with the fact that the UKR will probably burn through its reserves of trained manpower while trying to exploit the recent gains?

Thoughts?
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vinod wrote:Kherson front is collapsing as well. Ukraine wants this done by winter. Winter is going to be worse for Russia.
Ukraine has attacked in 2 places on the Kherson front and broken through in the north (with the Dnieper covering the left of the Ukraine advance). They have a penetration of upto 30 km into the Russian lines (Russia says the penetration has been contained). Unlike Lyman, this advance is against the regular army which had been well dug in. This is Russia's most serious crisis since the war began.
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ks_sachin wrote:While the winter will squeeze the EU balls what are the tactical implications for ops from a Russian perspective?

My take is that the frozen grounds will aid Russian armr and together with the increased inf strength due to the mobilisation we are likely to see more aggressive Russian ops. This combined with the fact that the UKR will probably burn through its reserves of trained manpower while trying to exploit the recent gains?

Thoughts?
1) The widespread presence of Anti armour capacity within the Ukrainian army is going to prevent any major armoured action from the Russians. Unless they are able to retrofit existing vehicles with active protection systems.

2) the Ukrainian's have had nearly 8 years constant NATO training. That has exposed them to much different operational context. As compared to the modern Russian army.

3) the manpower difference between the two forces is quite serious. The mobilisation by itself will not overcome this. Because the recalled men will have to be given refresher training. That will take atleast 4 to 6 weeks. Then they have to be distributed to the units. Followed by the training at the unit level. It's not going to be easy.

If the Russians are able to get there act together. They might succeed in preserving gains. Or else they will loose the eastern Ukrainian population and lands.
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Cain Marko wrote:Karan and JeM saars. Take a bow. One for providing tree top level analysis and lessons, and another for 30k feet map.
Second that! Superb posts guru jan!
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Deans wrote:
vinod wrote:Kherson front is collapsing as well. Ukraine wants this done by winter. Winter is going to be worse for Russia.
Ukraine has attacked in 2 places on the Kherson front and broken through in the north (with the Dnieper covering the left of the Ukraine advance). They have a penetration of upto 30 km into the Russian lines (Russia says the penetration has been contained). Unlike Lyman, this advance is against the regular army which had been well dug in. This is Russia's most serious crisis since the war began.
AFU have taken tremendous losses of men and equipment in this sector. If they are able to counter attack this strongly, I suspect a significant infusion of NATO troops, from Poland, UK and even special forces and senior officers from US. If they are able to consolidate these gains and make more gains in the coming weeks, then there will be no more doubt that NATO is directly involved.

Along with NS1&2 blown up, Lyman and Kherson now, the west is doing everything they can to make Russia panic and resort to tactical nukes because thanks to the referendums, this is attack on Russian territory now. The west has been screaming shrill for nukes since a few weeks to prepare the public and world opinion. The autumn window for sustained gains on RA positions is closing fast, additionally mobilised troops will arrive soon, US mid terms are getting closer now and Bidenwa desperately needs to have something he can tout as a victory or trigger Russia into using nukes and enable him to declare war and the US janata will rally behind him. If that happens, all bets are off and we will be veritably in WW3.

Very very dangerous situation for the next few weeks IMO.
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Cyrano wrote: AFU have taken tremendous losses of men and equipment in this sector. If they are able to counter attack this strongly, I suspect a significant infusion of NATO troops, from Poland, UK and even special forces and senior officers from US. If they are able to consolidate these gains and make more gains in the coming weeks, then there will be no more doubt that NATO is directly involved.

Very very dangerous situation for the next few weeks IMO.
This counterattack (north east corner of the Kherson front, with the Dnieper to the East) has Ukraine deploying 2 tank brigades, 1 mechanised and 1 infantry brigade, with all the SAMs they have. That's a serious number of tanks. Either this thrust gets them to Kherson - and it may well be game over for Russia, or nothing happens till Russia is ready with its own offensive in winter.
The first rain has already fallen. Ukraine says their tanks got stuck in the mud, after breaking Russian lines and advancing 20 km.
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Cyrano wrote: … trigger Russia into using nukes …
The whole world (except N Korea) will shun Russia if President Putin uses nuclear weapons. There will be no neutrals in that scenario.
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Deans wrote:This counterattack (north east corner of the Kherson front, with the Dnieper to the East) has Ukraine deploying 2 tank brigades, 1 mechanised and 1 infantry brigade, with all the SAMs they have. That's a serious number of tanks
how many tanks are there in one brigade, 200? :shock:
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Why is NATO making noises about Russians using nukes?
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Ukrainian counter attacks on Kherson have failed

https://www.rt.com/russia/563979-kiev-k ... -repelled/
3 Oct, 2022
Russia’s Defense Ministry has also confirmed repelling the attack, stating that over 400 Ukrainian servicemen, 43 tanks and 89 units of special military equipment were eliminated in the Nikolayev-Krivoy Rog area. Ukrainian side has been suffering significant casualties in the offensive, having reportedly lost over 500 soldiers (200 dead, 320 injured), as well as ten tanks and 25 infantry fighting vehicles during the attack on Krasny Liman, according to the Russian Defense Ministry.
// Russian State Duma ratifies accession treaties for former Ukrainian territories. Also, Russia has clear policy on use of nuclear weapons says Kremlin so "no" mushroom clouds. Talking of mushroom clouds...one was sighted recently in Nevada.
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Pratyush wrote:Why is NATO making noises about Russians using nukes?
Because:

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/69465
But the choice of the people in Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhye and Kherson will not be discussed. The decision has been made, and Russia will not betray it. (Applause.) Kiev’s current authorities should respect this free expression of the people’s will; there is no other way. This is the only way to peace.

We will defend our land with all the forces and resources we have, and we will do everything we can to ensure the safety of our people. This is the great liberating mission of our nation.

The United States is the only country in the world that has used nuclear weapons twice, destroying the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan. And they created a precedent.
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bala wrote:Ukrainian counter attacks on Kherson have failed

https://www.rt.com/russia/563979-kiev-k ... -repelled/
Not according to this report.

https://www.ft.com/content/f7e3420b-444 ... 8658932de9
Ukrainian forces have broken through the front lines in Kherson, one of the four regions Russia’s president Vladimir Putin annexed last week, in the latest blow to Moscow’s military campaign.

Russia’s defence ministry on Monday said Ukraine’s forces had “pierced into our defences” thanks to “superior tank divisions” near the town of Zolota Balka, marking Ukraine’s biggest advance in the south since Moscow invaded the country in February.

In the south, Ukrainian forces remain more than 120km from the major shipbuilding city of Kherson, the only provincial capital held by Russia since its full-blown invasion was launched on February 24. But an overnight push of more than 30km to Dudchany — a small village along the Dnipro river’s western shore — contrasts with the slow progress in previous months, where Ukraine was liberating a handful of small villages over weeks.

Though the defence ministry said Russia’s forces had made a pre-planned retreat and were inflicting “massive casualties” on Ukraine’s forces, Moscow-installed officials in the area indicated that opposing troops had progressed further still.

Vladimir Saldo, the Russia-appointed “governor” of Kherson who signed a “treaty” annexing Kherson alongside Putin, told Russian state television that Ukraine’s forces had advanced as far as Dudchany, 40km south of Zolota Balka, according to Reuters.
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The Russian lines are crumbling in many places. Ukraine is relentless and I think Russia has exhausted itself.

Russia will have to go nuclear soon enough, if they want to remain as any kind of power. Not sure, whether putin will cross that lakshmana rekha!
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yes, Russia has no option to cede territory until winter, the momentum is gone, manpower is gone, weapon stocks are gone and the will to fight is gone. Ukraine has the willpower and mainly the military optimism on its jawans. But also because they are bolstered with a huge flux of NATO weapons.

Russia will continue to cede few thousand additional sq kms of territory until about beginning of November when it will be difficult for both sides to purse due to mud and snow. So, both sides dig in and lob artillery without the border changing a lot. A lot could change in the next spring offensive depending on what each side does.
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It's in the interest of both sides to negotiate. Russia has got the bare minimum that it wanted. Ukrainians will advance until the Dnieper river. Russia will most likely withdraw south of the river and hold. If they persist with the offensive Russia will simply target critical infrastructure like gas, electricity, water, etc. This will implode Ukraine because of winter around the corner.

If the ukrainians don't advance until the river, the Russian military can simply launch counter offensive with full military commitment and use the land across the Dnieper as a spring board to take more of their territory in the South.

We may be nearing the end of the war.
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Ardennes redux.
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IndraD wrote:
Deans wrote:This counterattack (north east corner of the Kherson front, with the Dnieper to the East) has Ukraine deploying 2 tank brigades, 1 mechanised and 1 infantry brigade, with all the SAMs they have. That's a serious number of tanks
how many tanks are there in one brigade, 200? :shock:
A Russian tank brigade (presumably Ukraine has the same structure) has 9 companies of tanks + 3 at Brigade HQ.
Each tank company has 1 HQ tank and 3 * 3 tank platoons = 10 tanks per company or 93 in a brigade.
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Re: Russian-Ukrainian War: Combat Tactics & Strategy

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Presumably split across BTG or do the Russian Armd Bde operate independently of BTG's?
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Re: Russian-Ukrainian War: Combat Tactics & Strategy

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... exed-areas

Elon Musk poll with proposed plan to bring peace tanked by Ukrops, NATO supporters from across world, who want to keep fighting Russia's blood.
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Re: Russian-Ukrainian War: Combat Tactics & Strategy

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Multiple suggestions Russia is preparing for a nuclear test/moving convoy for a nuclear preparation towards Ukraine https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... ring-test/
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Re: Russian-Ukrainian War: Combat Tactics & Strategy

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IndraD wrote:Multiple suggestions Russia is preparing for a nuclear test/moving convoy for a nuclear preparation towards Ukraine https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... ring-test/
West is egging Russ towards nuke.
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