Russian-Ukrainian War: Combat Tactics & Strategy

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Had a meeting with Prime Minister of India
@narendramodi
in Japan. I briefed the interlocutor in detail on the Ukrainian Peace Formula initiative and invited India to join its implementation. I spoke about Ukraine's needs in humanitarian demining and mobile hospitals. I thank India for supporting our country's territorial integrity and sovereignty, in particular, at the platforms of international organizations, and for providing humanitarian aid to Ukraine https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/ ... 44544?s=20
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IndraD wrote:fact that he had to meet him F2F when Z is in no way involved in G7 means India is under a lot of pressure from US
India is also not a member of G7. There is no harm in meeting on the sidelines. Its good optics - like Chai Biskoot sessions.
If there is going to be any kind of peace agreement in future, India is one of the few major countries that can be an honest broker between
both sides.
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SM lit with Bakhmut is fully liberated, Pirozin gave a photo op from last vantage point https://twitter.com/warmonitors/status/ ... k6bP7UUGYQ

Ukr soldiers have posted they will return to reclaim it https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/statu ... 25153?s=20
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So I've just heard that US will be sending F16s to Ukraine (ostensibly for training purposes)

What's going on here? How are Americans so cocksure they won't provoke WW3?
Is there some method to their madness? Or are they just flying blind?

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Wagner proclaiming their victory at Bakhmut

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sanman wrote:So I've just heard that US will be sending F16s to Ukraine (ostensibly for training purposes)

What's going on here? How are Americans so cocksure they won't provoke WW3?
Is there some method to their madness? Or are they just flying blind?
US is not sending their F16's, it has allowed other countries F16's to be used for training UKR pilots. Next step is US authorizing to transfer these planes to UKR in exchange for f35's. This will keep on happening until there's peace or an outright win by one of the parties.
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Jay wrote:
sanman wrote:So I've just heard that US will be sending F16s to Ukraine (ostensibly for training purposes)

What's going on here? How are Americans so cocksure they won't provoke WW3?
Is there some method to their madness? Or are they just flying blind?
US is not sending their F16's, it has allowed other countries F16's to be used for training UKR pilots. Next step is US authorizing to transfer these planes to UKR in exchange for f35's. This will keep on happening until there's peace or an outright win by one of the parties.
or if there is change of power in US (Trump) who brings a peace proposal within 24 hours (as promised)
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https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/16 ... 79264?s=20

Ru posters indicating vast loss of Ukr soldiers in Bakhmut, how true?
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As far as Bakhmut is concerned, both sides have lost soo many soldiers, the question is quality, ratio , how many? Ukrainians claim it is in their favor while Rusians claims it is in theirs, as I said both sides were trying to eliminate the others sides best. We will know by Aug Sep, as from now to Sep end will be the best weather for fighting
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F16s - another silver bullet game changer to be pumped into this sink hole of a country. Kiev regime has been begging for them loud and hoarse for months now. Why so much love for this plane particularly? So that NATO donors can then tax their people to death and buy F35s ? I think so. Its real need or utility in the conflict is largely irrelevant.
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Deans wrote:From Sept onwards Russia will not be able to match NATO armaments flowing into Ukraine. Their only hope is for Ukrainian manpower to be killed off before that AND to occupy territory which can easily be defended and big enough to claim a victory.
Russia hasn't been able to accomplish that since Feb 2022. A little hard to believe it can in a few more months.
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^ Ukraine lost 1.5-2 x if it's army . Most of original AFU is dead .
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Cyrano wrote:F16s - another silver bullet game changer to be pumped into this sink hole of a country. Kiev regime has been begging for them loud and hoarse for months now. Why so much love for this plane particularly? So that NATO donors can then tax their people to death and buy F35s ? I think so. Its real need or utility in the conflict is largely irrelevant.

pretty sure Lockheed Martin , Northrop Grumman etc are all laughing all the way to the bank .. those narratives are now delusions ..and self sustaining with pliable media and leaders
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https://twitter.com/Cyberspec1/status/1 ... 26497?s=20

shadow storm used again and it hit the target some intercepted as well (?)
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Apparently the Poles are playing a key role in integrating NATO weapons on to Ukr's Soviet platforms. Also it seems like Ukr will be getting around 45 Danish F-16s which will be overhauled & upgraded by Poles before delivery...many countries in EU (especially former Soviet block ones) are not holding back to make sure Ukr fights Russians to the last man and in process weaken Russia as much as possible.
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Jay wrote:
sanman wrote:So I've just heard that US will be sending F16s to Ukraine (ostensibly for training purposes)

What's going on here? How are Americans so cocksure they won't provoke WW3?
Is there some method to their madness? Or are they just flying blind?
US is not sending their F16's, it has allowed other countries F16's to be used for training UKR pilots. Next step is US authorizing to transfer these planes to UKR in exchange for f35's. This will keep on happening until there's peace or an outright win by one of the parties.
As Jay said these are not US planes, probably Polish. The Poles are even more gung-ho vis a vis the Russians than the Brits. The Brits have no F-16s but Sunak did promise that he would "look into" supplying Typhoons (Eurofighter). I think this is unlikely. The training will be on Polish or other Nato soil and airspace and as Jay mentioned only when the US OK's the transfer, will they painted in UKR colours and go over the border.
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IndraD wrote:SM lit with Bakhmut is fully liberated, Pirozin gave a photo op from last vantage point https://twitter.com/warmonitors/status/ ... k6bP7UUGYQ
Also corroborated on https://liveuamap.com/ which is mostly updated by Pakrainian ground reports. Bakhmut is now shown as completely controlled by Russian forces. Over the previous 4-5 weeks the Pakrainians have been pushed out of the last few remaining city blocks.
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Broadly it seems that apart from areas that Ukraine recaptured in Sept-oct last year , russia is in control of almost all annexed territory. So it seems to be on the verge of meeting it's stated military goals.
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Will they stop at Odessa?
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It’s official now!

Zelenskyy says 'Bakhmut is only in our hearts' after Russia claims control of Ukrainian city

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says that he believes that Russia has taken control of the eastern city of Bakhmut

By SUSIE BLANN and ZEKE MILLER Associated Press
May 20, 2023, 10:26 AM ET

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wi ... s-99478947
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gakakkad wrote:Broadly it seems that apart from areas that Ukraine recaptured in Sept-oct last year , russia is in control of almost all annexed territory. So it seems to be on the verge of meeting it's stated military goals.
Not quite, on the verge of meeting goals.

The goal of demilitarized Ukraine and NATO non membership is still outstanding.

Unless those are accomplished Russians are not going to stop.
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The only way that Ukraine does not become a member of NATO is if a continuous state of war remains between Ukraine and Russia. Which ironically would suit the US just fine as they get to sell more weapons and ties down Russia. So in that way Russian goals of SMO will never be achieved. As far as demilitarisation goes, that horse has long bolted as well. The best they can hope for is a demilitarised zone 50-100 km into Ukrainian territory from current battle lines.
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The thing with rules is that, those who have the power to make rules also have the power to change them.

So continuation of this war is no guarantee that Ukraine will not join NATO.

The objectives from Russians going forward should be make the Ukrainians bleed white. While attempting to reduce Russian casualties.

Wait till the Dollar and Euro has weakened sufficiently that the nation's are no longer in a position to impose their will of the ROW.

Sustain domestic Economy.

Once the US is sufficiently weakened. It will have peace.
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The F-16s for UAF will mostly come from Netherlands, Belgium, Spain and maybe Italy. Italy is reluctant and so far has not supplied a whole lot of weapons to Ukraine. However, Z recently met with Meloni and asked for a change in stance.

UK and France don't have any F-16s and the eastern block countries like Romania, Bulgaria, Slovia Czech etc. either don't have at all and not enough to spare. As for Poland they have about 48 F-16s in their inventory. but I doubt they will be giving up any right now. They have about 32 F-35s on order. Unless the US promises to replace the F-16s with F-35s at a very reasonable cost, it will be difficult for Poland. They have already transferred about 16-19 Mig-29s that they had in their inventory to Ukraine and some of them have already been destroyed.

It has been reported that Z has promised the US that F-16s would be used only over Ukrainian airspace and would not be used to attack Russian territory.
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If I were the Russians, I'd be withdrawing from the Non-Proliferation Treaty by now.
American brinksmanship and high-handedness are disgusting.

I really hope Trump knocks Biden down in the next election -- if the world survives until then.
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ukraine army has undertaken a terrorist attack much like paxis in kashmir, in belgorod of Ru https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/ ... 45185?s=20
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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/statu ... 84352?s=20

ukr army is using psy ops with the help of NATO to the next level: issues an ultimatum to Ru army to surrender in what sounds like a morale booster to NATO handles
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I like Douglas MacGregor - he speaks like a professional military man - and I heard he was an advisor in the Trump whitehouse
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Ukraine blew up Nord Stream pipelines, Germany believes’ https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ukra ... a%20report.
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^ that news item implicates that a faction within Deutschland deep state wants to distance itself from the war and not give further assistance . I find it hard to believe that UKR in itself had such capabilities .
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The usage of long-range strikes, stand-off weapons, and drones has been the innovation of this war.
And the need for long ammo supply chains as war is now a logistic nightmare as it stretches.
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gakakkad wrote:^ that news item implicates that a faction within Deutschland deep state wants to distance itself from the war and not give further assistance . I find it hard to believe that UKR in itself had such capabilities .
The phrase implausible deniability comes to mind.

Second, it's in German interests to get access to cheap Russians energy and raw materials in order to maintain its economy. In that it's interests diverge from the rest of Europe.

IMO, it lacks the willingness to state this publicly and break ranks with Europe.

Unless the Germans stand up. EU will remain a paper tiger.
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IndraD wrote:ukraine army has undertaken a terrorist attack much like paxis in kashmir, in belgorod of Ru https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/ ... 45185?s=20
It was a Battalion sized group advancing approx. 5km into Russia.
See google maps (area between Belgorod and the Ukraine border).
The Ukrainians occupied the villages of Grayvoron and briefly Golovchino. (that's a 25 sq km area).
They were then pushed back by Russian forces advancing out of their base south of Belgorod (Maiskii) but still occupy a bridgehead
inside Russia.
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The Ukrainians themselves have disowned the group, so they have no legal protection, It is just a distraction to keep the loss of Bakmut away from the headlines, they will go back after fighting with the FSB, Ukraine will support them with Artillery just to highlight the fighting here Vs what has happened in Bakhmut.

Some of these "Russians" have given interviews to CNN on snake Island when landed there after the Russians withdrew. They are just a distraction.
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Are the Ukrainians getting advice from the fellow who claimed "Planned Operation Gibraltar" in his resume? For it sure looks like an equally stupid idea to send a squad into Russia to a flat indefensible place and expecting anything other than its annihilation. When will that pompous idiot Zelensky run out of cannon fodder? I pity the lives lost on both sides, this was/is an altogether unnecessary war, and unwinnable on both sides. Russia will sacrifice its youth to hold on to the ideal of a Russia which will remain only a thought as its demographics and economy collapse. Ukraine will basically cease to exist, with its own demographic collapse being many times worse than that of the Russians.

Given enough time, white people will eliminate each other.
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https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/ru ... 3592&ei=57

Russia is now using its tanks for fast hit and run tactics.

"The report, based on multiple interviews with Ukrainian officers in the field, outlined areas where Russia has adapted after its bungled initial invasion last year.

Ever since their humiliating losses earlier in the war, Russian forces have stopped trying to use armor to break through Ukraine's ranks directly, the UK-based Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) wrote in a report released Friday. Instead, Russian tanks nowadays effectively provide backup for artillery, long-range firepower, and quick raids.

"The Russian use of of armor has evolved significantly during the conflict," the authors wrote, adding: "While the introduction of older tanks such as the T62 and T55 to the field has been mocked online, these vehicles are largely being used in the role of the fire support function offered by BMPs and other infantry fighting vehicles (IFVs)."

Being able to fire from more than a mile away, when in places where anti-tank guided weapons are thin, the tanks "pose a serious battlefield threat," the authors said."

"And although an "inefficient form of artillery," they write, tanks are notably less vulnerable, so can be used in a supplemental way where air defense is poor.

Russia has also been using its tanks — primarily its T80BV — for nighttime raids during Ukrainian troop rotations, the report said, with the aim "to rapidly approach the target sector, fire as many rounds as possible within a short space of time and withdraw."

And some Russian modifications and tactics have also made it harder to detect and hit Russian armor with anti-tank guided missiles, the authors wrote. Anti-thermal materials are now being used, as well as engaging in attacks at dusk and dawn — a moment known as "thermal crossover" — when the tank is at a temperature nearest to the ambient temperature, the report explained."

"In recent months much has been written about Russia's military weaknesses, which exposed deadly gaps in a previously much-feared force. The Washington, DC, think tank International Institute for Strategic Studies said in February that Russia had likely lost more than 2,000 tanks since the start of the war, while its air force is hampered by strong Ukrainian air defenses, and morale in its army is legendarily poor.

But the RUSI report sounds a note of caution over other areas — such as bridge-building, engineering and electronic warfare — where Russia's army has shown high competence, and warned about areas, like tank wafare, where Russia's military has shown itself able to adapt."
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Aditya_V wrote:The Ukrainians themselves have disowned the group, so they have no legal protection, It is just a distraction to keep the loss of Bakmut away from the headlines, they will go back after fighting with the FSB, Ukraine will support them with Artillery just to highlight the fighting here Vs what has happened in Bakhmut.

Some of these "Russians" have given interviews to CNN on snake Island when landed there after the Russians withdrew. They are just a distraction.
It is like saying the Pakistanis in Kargil were local militants and not Pak army. The Ukrainian group was supported by tanks. 2 Knocked out tanks have been shown on Russian TV.
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sanman wrote:I like Douglas MacGregor - he speaks like a professional military man
When all this is over, I hope the general public ask themselves, in fact ask the powers that be, the media, politicians etc, why people like Douglas MacGregor & others were not allowed to give their views on the MSM ?
Why were they/we only allowed to hear the views of people who basically repeated the NeoCon line?
Why was the so called free media in the west so quick to "toe the establishment line??"

I don't think the public will though, the general public are sheep. Brainwashed and unthinking.
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Deans wrote:It was a Battalion sized group advancing approx. 5km into Russia.
See google maps (area between Belgorod and the Ukraine border).
The Ukrainians occupied the villages of Grayvoron and briefly Golovchino. (that's a 25 sq km area).
They were then pushed back by Russian forces advancing out of their base south of Belgorod (Maiskii) but still occupy a bridgehead
inside Russia.
this is like multiple squads of Let entering Kahmir! what is the method in madness here Deans saar!
Distract from Bakhmut? Stretch armyline of Ru? Moral boosting? Shot in the arm?
How is Ru covering victory in Bakhmut on channels?

[Sky news was in tears and asking Biden to mobilise NATO fully, UK ex generals asking to give parmanu to Ukr, and Bakhmut claimed 1 million army men of Ru, Ukr did splendid etc]
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Ukraine is losing 10,000 drones a month to Russian electronic-warfare systems that send fake signals and screw with their navigation, researchers say https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine ... ?r=US&IR=T
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