Huge support base does not matter.RoyG wrote:Like I said, he can't be ignored and has huge backing among support base.
and a certified left-wing nutcase - as with most other 'humanities' types at these campuses ! Did she have the guts to protest against Bush, given her left-wing leaning ? Was Bush ever stopped from giving a speech at any US university ?chetak wrote:She is a feminist, women's libber, ball-breaker...........
Wharton inviting Kejriwal, Akhtar and Shabana ?? And it calls itself a business school ?Sushupti wrote:@rahulkanwal
After canceling @narendramodi, Wharton student body now says they want to invite @ArvindKejriwal7 for India Business Forum instead.
Kejriwal may not be available. He is launching a civil disobedience program in Delhi on March 23rd, against corruption in Water and Power distribution. But maybe video link is possible. Kejriwal will be on indefinite Upvas.Sushupti wrote:@rahulkanwal
After canceling @narendramodi, Wharton student body now says they want to invite @ArvindKejriwal7 for India Business Forum instead.
Pranav wrote:Huge support base does not matter.RoyG wrote:Like I said, he can't be ignored and has huge backing among support base.
He will need loyal MPs who he can keep safely in a guest house until Advani & Co accept him as PM.
If he is being used just for campaigning, and tickets are being distributed by others then prognosis is very bleak.
Kejriwal is getting good traction from the poorer people of Delhi. Maybe not on radar screen of well-fed individuals.RoyG wrote: btw, where are dumb (hazare) and dumber (kejriwal) these days?
MPs have to be kept safe and isolated, rivals will be desperately making big offers. MPs are bought and sold like cattle.RoyG wrote: Advani & Co accept him as PM? What sort of influence do these people wield now? It's dwindling every passing day. Where do these MP get their support from?
i'm talking about that guychetak wrote:the female is an ex JNU type to boot.Gus wrote:Ugh the long haired leftie... How original....
Sure, but at the end of the day you're dependent on votes. In the case of the BJP and RSS almost the entire cadre base is backing Modi. Moreover, the "well fed" bourgeoisie who is despised by the typical NACxalite for the first time in a long time has found a leader who can navigate through all the nonsense and deliver. Modi is the tallest leader in the room and he is on the offensive. You cant ignore your biggest vote catcher and most able administrator.Pranav wrote:MPs have to be kept safe and isolated, rivals will be desperately making big offers. MPs are bought and sold like cattle.RoyG wrote: Advani & Co accept him as PM? What sort of influence do these people wield now? It's dwindling every passing day. Where do these MP get their support from?
Once an MP is elected he has to get the best price because he has paid a huge amount to buy his ticket from his party.
That is the way politics in India works.
Yes, but the end of the day is 5 years away. Meanwhile there is money to be made and business to be done.RoyG wrote: Sure, but at the end of the day you're dependent on votes.
This is the problem with you aam aadmi people. Your white hat leader takes pot shots at opposition without any evidence and runs away like a weasel. Then he goes deep in his hole when VVIP scam hits the headlines and has now come out to protest electricity availability to poor in Delhi. Instead of supporting NACxalites why don't you support Modi? He is committed to development and is taking on the family. He's not some condom that has been thrown away by Congress.Pranav wrote:Kejriwal is getting good traction from the poorer people of Delhi. Maybe not on radar screen of well-fed individuals.RoyG wrote: btw, where are dumb (hazare) and dumber (kejriwal) these days?
See facebook.com/AamAadmiParty .
He may or may not be PM. Sure it may be 5 years away. However, he will be influencing policy. This is the key.Pranav wrote:Yes, but the end of the day is 5 years away. Meanwhile there is money to be made and business to be done.RoyG wrote: Sure, but at the end of the day you're dependent on votes.
If BJP tickets are sold by somebody else then Modi will have a hard time.
Thank god this fellow or his party will never go anywhere. He will be worse than congress and bankrupt the entire country.Aam Aadmi of the country has reasons to feel disappointed, if not cheated, with the Union Budget 2013-14 presented by the ruling coalition that came to power in his name. All over the country, cutting across gender, regions, sectors, classes and the urban/rural divide, the aam aadami faces a crisis of economic opportunity and livelihood. She has suffered from a long period of high inflation, especially in food items. She has long suffered from growth that did not deliver more jobs, a decline in growth now threatens to cut down on existing livelihood opportunities. All the basic amenities that a citizen can expect from democratic governance – public provisions for heath, education and social security – are beyond the reach of the Aam Aadami. Rampant corruption from top to the bottom eats into whatever little could trickle down to them.
The Union Budget presented by the Finance Minister is a clever attempt to mislead the public in an election year. The Finance Minister’s speech offers little remedy for the key problems facing the Indian economy that he himself begins by acknowledging: slowdown of growth, rising fiscal deficit and current account deficit. The current crisis required the government to stimulate domestic investment by encouraging consumption from below; instead the FM remained focused on Foreign investors. Controlling inflation required expansion of PDS and reinforced subsidies on energy and focus on increasing agricultural output in pulses and oilseeds; instead the government has relied on hope. Meeting the demands and aspirations of the people required substantial and real increase in social sector expenditure, instead the government has resorted to statistical tricks and gimmicks rather than put its money where its mouth is. Nor is there any evidence of the government being serious about better usage and monitoring of the funds spent on these public provisions. Shockingly, the government has not come up with any measure to curb corruption and control the parallel black economy that the public is so visibly exercised about.
An analysis of the summary statistics of the budget make it clear that there is little connect between the rhetoric of the budget and its actual numbers. In his speech the FM claimed that the government has not spared money for welfare schemes; the fact is that the UPA has drastically cut down on most of the key welfare schemes in the current year itself. The FM’s claims about increasing outlays in key sectors is a clear case of statistical fudging; the ‘increase’ claimed by the FM is with reference to the drastically reduced expenditure (Revised Estimates). In most cases the rise in budget allocations is barely enough to cover inflation. In real terms there is no increase in spending for the aam aadami. The FM has also used the age old devise of distracting public attention with the help of some gimmicks that cost very little.
The government needed to increase tax revenue, which has actually fallen by 4% in the current year over what was budgeted; similar false assumptions seem to driving the current projections of 20% increase in revenue. The much talked about move to tax the rich turned out to be a damp squib, for it would affect only 42,000 super rich and bring very small gains for the country. This small gain would be more than made up by the generous increase in the tax exemption, mostly for the well off and the corporate. The amount of ‘Tax foregone’ has gone up from Rs. 5,33,000 crores to Rs. 5,73,000 crores. There is no change in the capital gains regime to curb speculative gains activity in the stock market.The budget gives no indication of a political will to curb black income generation in the economy. The deferment of implementation of GARR to 2016 is another example of the lack of political will to curb tax avoidance. There is nothing in the budget to do away with non-transparent instruments like Participatory Notes or to reformulate the double taxation treaties with ‘tax heavens’ and black economy conduits.
Most of the schemes meant for the aam aadmi have remained static or have in fact gone down in real terms or even compared to the actual expenditure in the year before. The central Plan size has come down from Rs. 6,51,000 crore in the Budget last year to the Revised estimate of 5,56,000 crores, huge shortfall of Rs. 96,000 crores. In 2012-13 expenditure on agriculture and allied activities, rural development, irrigation and flood control and welfare of ST has actually gone down compared to the actual expenditure of the previous year. A similar comparison of the expenditure on health and education shows a marginal increase that barely keeps pace with inflation. The total expenditure on social services has fallen short by Rs. 23,000 crores compared to the budgeted allocations. This fact acquires significance for much of the social sector expenditure takes place at the level of the states where the transfer has been cut down by as much as 10,000 crores.
It is unfortunate that even the opposition has not drawn the country’s attention to these statistical lies and inattention to the needs of the aam aadmi. Aam Aadmi Party resolves to take this collective conspiracy of the political establishment to the people’s court and place the concerns of aam admi at the heart of our economic policy.
Arey bhai, you think BJP song and dance about VVIP choppers will lead anywhere? If you believe Swamy then a big shot opposition Damaad has also made money on the choppers. Why should they do anything more than the usual Nuatanki. Did Bofors go anywhere in 6 years of BJP.RoyG wrote: Your white hat leader takes pot shots at opposition without any evidence and runs away like a weasel. Then he goes deep in his hole when VVIP scam hits the headlines and has now come out to protest electricity availability to poor in Delhi.
Bhai I am just a humble dispassionate observer, nobody is my leader. I don't classify Modi as a useless eater, although we are waiting to hear why he gave a sweet deal to Shobhana Bhartiya's hubby and other such questions.This is the problem with you aam aadmi people. Instead of supporting NACxalites why don't you support Modi? He is committed to development and is taking on the family. He's not some condom that has been thrown away by Congress.
This is exactly correct. End result will very much depend on who is run on the ground. Recruiting 'electable' candidates will be key. If NM is smart this selection process should be placed under his control. The right candidate talking the right policies can win in most unlikely places. Pon Radhakrishnan, Hindu munani type won in kanyakumari district promising to end temple entry restrictions, reservations for women and launch a full scale assault on the caste system. Local lore is that he peeled off a good 25% of the Christian vote with his electioneering.Pranav wrote:MPs have to be kept safe and isolated, rivals will be desperately making big offers. MPs are bought and sold like cattle.
Once an MP is elected he has to get the best price because he has paid a huge amount to buy his ticket from his party.
What are you saying Saar, ABV spent most effort in dismantling these parts of patronage culture. Modi has been doing the same in Gujarat.devesh wrote: Vajpayee types were afraid to do. if Modi gets the post, he needs to do it.
Atri wrote:Arjun wrote:I think its this leftist streak in the RSS that Atri ji clearly mentions that has produiced nincompoops like Govindacharya and others...And what the eff is RSS doing with Togadia and Bajrang Dal types ? Can someone explain how they fit in the grand scheme of 'integral humanism'?
Probably makes sense, like Atriji mentions, for Modi and Jaitley to break away from the RSS at some stage in the next 10 years and head their own right-wing party.
That would be suicidal.. I do not wish OR expect that. I meant no such thing. I would be embarrassed if NM acted this rashly which I hardly think he will. Economic growth without unless all-rounded can make one a fat pig ready for slaughter. How much of our growth in past 10 years is "growth" and how much is "tumor", we need to ascertain that. We may not want to call tumor as growth, although it looks the same initially.
Why is being integral humanist OR a socialist a bad thing? Remember, it has always been the left (radicles as the center-right dwelling status quoists might say) who produce men of action. Even Namo, Shivraj Chauhan, Parrikar, Raman Singh and many others came up through this family. Same as Govindacharya, Kalyan Singh, Uma Bharti, ABV and LKA in their heyday.. It were the Indic leftist radicles of RSS and VHP who stirred the nation during Ramjanmabhumi movement. It is the idealists of VHP who are converting muslims and christians to Hindu faiths. It is the idealist socialists of Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram who have single-handedly kept the naxalite problem in central India under control. Without them, we would be no one. It were the same radicles who protected Hindus during every single riot.
Govindacharya, Togadiya et al have spent their lives for a cause. So have countless dharmagurus and their millions of disciples. It is the socialist and nationalistic leftist streak in Sangh Parivar which has produced millions of dedicated selfless workers who live and die for a cause. Hence I would desist from calling names to anyone who have lived their lives for a cause. It takes great deal of commitment.
They have held on to Dharma in most dire times and places. Why do you think the hindus in villages of Assam, Bengal and North Kerala still hold on their ancestral land, hain ji? It is same bajrang dal type people who are the sword arm of dharma when government is non-functional.
So, my brother, please do not insult them.. If you can, create new institutions and build new cadre in your image which is as nationalistic and dharmik as those belonging to Sangh Parivar, yet with diametrically opposite rightist socio-politico-economic world view about nation. Nation would be indebted to you. If you want NM and jaitley to do that, bid them goodbye politically. Then you would never see NM as PM. He will die watering the organization. And I do not think Jaitley has it in him. Not without RSS behind. You would need someone as committed and almost divine as Guru Golwalkar to see the fruits 2-3 decades from now.
Sanku wrote:What are you saying Saar, ABV spent most effort in dismantling these parts of patronage culture. Modi has been doing the same in Gujarat.devesh wrote: Vajpayee types were afraid to do. if Modi gets the post, he needs to do it.
ABV did more in his 6 years in Delhi, that Modi could do in his first 5 in GJ, however he got the second term, and then third.
ABV has achieved more in 6 years than was thought possible.
gakakkad wrote:how on earth do commie's end up as faculty in business-schools ? I mean , is not that an oxymoron ?
Many people dye their hair blonde.SwamyG wrote:She has aged good....chetak wrote:
["Gus"]Ugh the long haired leftie... How original....[Gus]
the female is an ex JNU type to boot.not bad looking.
This is really bold of adani groups. Sometimes we criticize all business groups are crony but they do work a lot of times with national interests.Sushupti wrote:Adani Group cancels its Platinum Sponsorship sponsorship of Wharton event after Narendra Modi is dropped
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/naren ... hip-338093
Not in the business school. But in the larger university system. The liberal arts programs have larger numbers of students than STEM or business. One consequence of which is that continuing need to import people from abroad for STEM employment. The Republicans have been trying to gut liberal arts since the cold war, by cutting state funding so universities have to raise tuition. The theory being that people will be reluctant to spend on a degree that has no guarantee of professional employment.gakakkad wrote:how on earth do commie's end up as faculty in business-schools ? I mean , is not that an oxymoron ?
Congress is behind this drama through friendly communists (who slyly call themselves leftists) in the US. This entire drama shows what is wrong with the psyche of the Hindu male and why Hindu women and children get enslaved again and again because of his low IQ.Arjun wrote:Wharton inviting Kejriwal, Akhtar and Shabana ?? And it calls itself a business school ?Sushupti wrote:@rahulkanwal
After canceling @narendramodi, Wharton student body now says they want to invite @ArvindKejriwal7 for India Business Forum instead.
Sad day for Wharton alum. Their reputation just went irretrievably down the tube.
ends, battle for 2014 begins