Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

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Sivanand Tiwari is another sample of cow belt "Lotta".He was with Nitish at the start of Samta Party (earlier version of JDU). Switched to Lalu after Lalu won in 2000. He used to abuse Nitish Kumar months before he joined back JDU in 2009.
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Postby member_23629 » 09 Apr 2013 21:40

Narendra Modi leaves Bengal business impressed
Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi's maiden address to Bengal businessmen on Tuesday had a large number of them bowled over, with some industry captains pitching for the sauve BJP leader as a potential prime minister.

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Postby KJo » 09 Apr 2013 21:46

Who stands between Modi and the BJP nomination? I think only Advaniji who still harbors aspirations to be PM at 84.

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Postby RoyG » 09 Apr 2013 21:56

KJoishy wrote:Who stands between Modi and the BJP nomination? I think only Advaniji who still harbors aspirations to be PM at 84.


He knows he can't be PM. When Modi becomes PM all his skeletons will fall out of the closet.

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Postby Muppalla » 09 Apr 2013 21:59

KJoishy wrote:Who stands between Modi and the BJP nomination? I think only Advaniji who still harbors aspirations to be PM at 84.


Unfortunately this is a true statement. He is the hurdle and several napunsaks clinging on this hurdle is the reason for the delay of the inevitable.

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Postby Vipin_Upadhyay » 09 Apr 2013 22:07

KJoishy wrote:Who stands between Modi and the BJP nomination? I think only Advaniji who still harbors aspirations to be PM at 84.


Strange, but as much as I respect LKA, have this feeling he thinks it's injustice to him if he is not offered the top post ahead of NaMo.

LKA definately help make BJP the main national party through Ayodhya & Rathyatra, but he already got his share of recognition under NDA government where he as No.2, remained de-facto Deputy-Prime Minister with Atalji.

I am still baffled, why did he chose to praise Jinnah, he gained nothing from this drama, except some 2 days pappi-jhappi with Pakis.

He & JS will always carry the burden of Kandahar hijack outcome. For a moment just imagine by replacing NaMo & Amit Shah with them & think what could have been the outcome!!

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Postby kittoo » 09 Apr 2013 22:14

Vipin_Upadhyay wrote:
KJoishy wrote:Who stands between Modi and the BJP nomination? I think only Advaniji who still harbors aspirations to be PM at 84.


Strange, but as much as I respect LKA, have this feeling he thinks it's injustice to him if he is not offered the top post ahead of NaMo.

LKA definately help make BJP the main national party through Ayodhya & Rathyatra, but he already got his share of recognition under NDA government where he as No.2, remained de-facto Deputy-Prime Minister with Atalji.

I am still baffled, why did he chose to praise Jinnah, he gained nothing from this drama, except some 2 days pappi-jhappi with Pakis.


He & JS will always carry the burden of Kandahar hijack outcome. For a moment just imagine by replacing NaMo & Amit Shah with them & think what could have been the outcome!!


That baffles me too. But I guess he did it for changing his image. Becoming more 'secular' and 'accepted to media', as was (and probably is) the rage in BJP at that time.

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Postby ramana » 09 Apr 2013 22:18

He was playing to massa and try to become acceptable for 2009.

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Postby Sushupti » 09 Apr 2013 22:27

ramana wrote:He was playing to massa and try to become acceptable for 2009.


Also, role of spiritual communist that Kulkarni fellow shouldn't be underestimated. To my knowledge he was the guy who came out with this idea.
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Postby RajeshA » 09 Apr 2013 22:30

Vipin_Upadhyay wrote:RajeshA ji, If NaMo & BJP really want to play Chanakian, they should avoid opposing Pappu. In fact ignore or even use some spokesperson for well calculated veiled praise.
The more Mainovadis project pappu as PM the more he will be exposed. Mark my words, the man has no clue, a complete disaster. He will sink Maino family on his own.

My concern is with holy sister Bianca. If Bianca replaces pappu, she will find fooling UP masses easier due to her facial resemblance with Indira ji & she is not as dumb as pappu. Moreover dynasty media will lampoon BJP & NaMo on daily basis if they even open their mouth against a young "Woman" during election debates.


Vipin_Upadhyay ji,

I agree with you and Rudradev garu.

The Gandhi women are indeed vicious. I think the BJP should go on the attack on Damaad and make Bianca's entry into politics nigh impossible. Modi should now forget Raul. He is useless.

Sonia Gandhi and Robert Vadra, they should be the target.

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Postby Sanku » 09 Apr 2013 22:30

Modi is not being blocked, he is clearly being projected, this is a scaled, step by step, process.

One does not become a Samart before the Rajsuya is over. Right now Modi is the horse and the army running around and challenging battle.

The elections will be battle.

Then will come the crowning.

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Postby Yayavar » 09 Apr 2013 22:50

Sushupti wrote:


Sivanand Tiwari is another sample of cow belt "Lotta".He was with Nitish at the start of Samta Party (earlier version of JDU). Switched to Lalu after Lalu won in 2000. He used to abuse Nitish Kumar months before he joined back JDU in 2009.


That should make both 'Lotta' - no?

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Postby anmol » 09 Apr 2013 22:55

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The worst (ever) case scenario


By OMAR AKHTAR

Published: Sun, 07 April 2013 09:21 PM



The article is intended to highlight the danger of power-grabbing, communal politics. It is a work of fiction.


It is 2014 in India. The Hindu-nationalistic IJP wins the election by a slender majority on its own, obviating the need for coalition, the first such time in India since 1984. The upper middle class votes in droves for the party, fed up with the corrupt Conference Party-led government in New Delhi. Led by the charismatic, Mahendra Bodi, the IJP starts on the path to, ‘repay the debt of Bharat Mata.’

Soon after election, Mr Bodi stops all negotiations with Pakistan, effectively ending talks on enhancing trade and cooperation between the two warring neighbours. ‘Kashmir is not up for discussion,’ thunders Mr Bodi in his first address to Parliament. He asks Parliament to remember the 1994 resolution which clearly stated that the ‘dispute’ was over ‘Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK).’ The statement sends shockwaves in Kashmir. Protests are held. Arrests are made. Curfew is imposed. Mr Bodi calls on the Army and Paramilitary to fend off the protestors, and deal with the situation with an ‘iron fist.’ In a bloody trip to the Valley, Mr Bodi, recalling his march in 1992 to Srinagar to raise the Indian flag in Lal Chowk, dares the ‘Pakistanis’ to come and meet him in Lal Chowk. A protest march is fired upon. Dozens are killed. Kashmir witnesses its bloodiest day in years. The curfew continues. Kashmiris in other parts of India hold marches in solidarity with their Kashmiri brethren. The protests are broken up, many are arrested. Some are convicted of ‘terrorist’ and ‘anti-national’ acts under a new law introduced to specifically counter protests against Security Forces deployed in disturbed areas. The JKNC and PDP legislators from the Valley, aghast at the brutal treatment, call on Mr Bodi to hold back his forces. The Assembly is dismissed. The State Elections of 2014 are postponed. The harsh winter of 2014-15 is like a particularly severe winter 25 years ago, with the daily doses of killings, curfews, and crackdowns. The press, one of the strongest institutions in Kashmir, is gagged for months. The internet shuts down. An eerie silence descends upon the Valley…



The ‘Grand Plan’ was to obliterate Muslims. But the Plan falters. The Muslims are prepared. They close ranks. The battles make the Syrian and Iraqi Civil Wars look like child’s play. Brave last stands are made. The Battle of India begins. The Day of Judgement is definitely near…



In a surprising development, Muslim organisations from Hyderabad to Kerala and Uttar Pradesh hold solidarity marches, to call on the government to refrain from imposing harsh measures against the population in Kashmir. Clashes erupt between parallel marches in some major cities, between the Muslim marches and a particularly virulent Hindu organisation organising marches on the same day. The Police, instructed to watch and do nothing, do exactly that. Communal clashes see dozens killed, most of them Muslims, in systematic attacks against businesses and professionals, in a few days, reminiscent of a sad chapter in India’s history when a ‘Nero’ stood watching as his State burnt. Political parties, led by Congress, call for peace, but blame the Muslims for ‘starting’ the trouble.

A few weeks later in 2015, bomb blasts occur outside the offices of the Hindu organisation blamed for most of the violence. In three hours, twelve blasts destroy the organisations’ offices in different cities throughout India. Hundreds are killed when buildings collapse on them in a major city, dozens more when another bomb blast occurs at the moment rescuers are trying to save the injured.

Mr Bodi goes on TV. ‘To every action there is a reaction.’ A theory he had propounded a few years ago to justify carnage against Muslims in a different era. The reaction happens. Systematically, almost to perfection, targeted killings and bomb blasts occur in succession in every state ruled by the IJP. The Police suspected to have played a role in the acquisition of the bomb-making materials. Some Muslim Officers are dismissed for having alerted Muslims before the blasts. The plan was perhaps hatched a long time before the spark. Mosques, Shrines, Madrassas, and major places of congregation for Muslims are targeted. Historical monuments are severely damaged. Thousands die in an orgy of violence.

‘Follow the Burmese model,’ say some particularly savage votaries of the violence. ‘The result is a foregone conclusion,’ says one member of the Hindu organisation. ‘We have to restore Hindu-rule. These Muslims are invaders, they have to be killed.’

But the Muslim middle-class, now fully aware of its identity and conscious of its religious duties, responds in an unexpected way. The ‘Grand Plan’ was for them to be pushed to refugee camps, their property taken away from them, and ultimately, like advised by the late founder of a party with a strong base in Maharashtra, ‘Remove the Muslims from the electoral lists.’ The Plan falters. The Muslims are prepared. They close ranks. From the ghettos of large cities, the small towns in the Gangetic plains; from seminaries in the North, to the colleges in the South; from large mosques to large Shrines, the Muslims fight to death. The battles make the Syrian and Iraqi Civil Wars look like child’s play. Brave last stands are made. The Battle of India begins. The Day of Judgement is definitely near…

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Postby ramana » 09 Apr 2013 23:03

Fear mongering. Case of last resort.

BTW bare majority doesnt give you those powers.

Is this guy a Omar Khalidi re-incarnation?

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Postby Chandragupta » 09 Apr 2013 23:09

Another dhutia owaisi wannabe. Last stand my foot. If Hindus decide to exterminate Muslims from India, he & his ilk will piss their pants & run to the nearest border into Bangladesh or Pakistan. It is his good luck that Hindus know how to co-exist but they shouldn't push it too much, lest they actually bring down the day of judgement. I doubt their x rated paradise has so many houris to fulfill the tharak of these dhutias. Baat karta hai...

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Postby ramana » 09 Apr 2013 23:19

Fellow suffers from paredoila: Seeing something that is not there.

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Postby vijayk » 09 Apr 2013 23:20

Sushupti wrote:Hurt is showing.
Why it is wrong to compare Rahul Gandhi with Modi
http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/s ... 130409.htm


It is downright scary to see how dangerous and compromised our media has become. We need to rein these scums. Peddling lies, assertions, communalization, spin and outright political sycophancy.

It is true, as journalists and Modi supporters keep repeating ad nauseum, that the Gujarat chief minister has risen in politics on his own steam and has not had support from a family as it were, while Rahul is in politics simply because of being the heir to the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty and it is a moot question whether he would have even ventured into the field had it not been for his DNA as he has himself referred to it.


PAPPU himself referred so no more calling him a dynast.

Modi is brash, brazen, nasty and clever. Rahul is shy, diffident, childish and well meaning. Modi, as a student said on a television show with the insight of youth, is "authoritarian and he lets us know that he is a leader and he will take the decisions. Rahul, on the other hand, tells us to lead but we do not want to, we prefer a Modi who can resolve our problems than a Rahul who seems hesitant and confused."


The loony scumbag spews venom and out of control with human garbage coming out of her mouth.

Brash, nasty and clever vs well meaning. Ohhhhhh! poor little Georgie. He can't help himself as he is born with a silver spoon. But heis well meaning. WOW! Loony scumbag! what the hell is that.

one Student on TV said Modi is authoritarian so Modi is.

It is interesting how opinion makers join news anchors in highlighting Modi's so called achievements, his humour, his oratory skills, his supposedly excellent administration even as all keep completely silent about 2002 and the fact that nearly 800 Muslims were killed under his watch. It is amazing how this massacre is being projected now, by some of the journalists who reported the violence those days, as an 'aberration', a deed of the past best forgotten.


If you can't argue any thing, the loony scumbag has to go back to 2002.

The bloody scumbag knows 2002 is repeated million times a day by her co-scumbags. But she is not satisfied.

Bloody scum! 3000 Skihs were killed under Rajiv's watch and 100,000 people were killed under the watch of terrorist CON party watch. Do you bring it up every day when you talk about ITALIAN mafia?

PAPPU's Granny is corrupt looter
Pappu's dad is a middle man
3000 sikhs killed under Rajiv watch &PAPPU's party
Unimaginable riots since 47 under CON party
Pappu's mom is a looter and scam artist.

Do you ever bring up any thing?

Instead of holding him accountable, Indian industry never the conscience keeper of society seems to have turned the violence into an asset for Modi, viewing him as a man of 'action' who carries an iron fist and is not averse to throwing a punch or two to put people (read minorities and dissenters) in their place when required.


Now industry has to be conscience keeper of the society while scumbags like her grab people's money using MAFIA and promoting MAFIA.

The Modi versus Rahul pitch works to the advantage of the former. And by projecting both as the prime minister in a 'pick and choose' format, the naive are toppling over for Modi as the better choice. The facts demonstrate very clearly that Gujarat certainly does not lead the Indian states in development and growth; that Modi has blocked justice and the law whenever and wherever possib#8804 that he follows an exclusivist and not inclusive growth policy; that he rules through polarisation and marginalisation.


advantage Modi. so can't compare! Why? Because the scumbag says so.

What "facts" looney? what facts?

There is sufficient data and statistics to prove each of these points, and demonstrate that Modi's rule is fraught with injustice and discrimination. He is a consummate politician who has hired the best lobbyists and public relations firms for an image makeover, where every trick in the book has been used and statistics fudged for convenience as and where necessary.

There is data and facts exactly opposite to it. But scumbags believe in "Repeat a LIE 100 times, it will become TRUTH".

But Looney! Your CON MAFIA makes lakhs of crores in each scam and spend millions/billions of people's money to manage media and sugarcoat PAPPU the idiot. PAPPU's meaningless dialog into spin.

Rahul, on the other hand is a politician with little depth or skills. He is juvenile in his thinking, immature in his responses, and clearly unable to address or handle the complexities of India. He does not inspire confidence, not even in the youth that like the rest of India recognise leaders when they see one. He is seen as 'nice', 'a good chap' but not as a leader who inspires confidence.


He is inept, clueless but PAPPU is nice, good chap. so lets make him PM.

What a brainless, thoughtless dumb logic?
His CII performance for instance, earned him some applause for sincerity but not for his knowledge of issues concerning Indian economy, as he failed to impress and enthrall the hard-nosed business community. He has been speaking on generalities now for a long time leading to speculation that he is either not informed or just plain diffident of dealing with India's harsh and difficult specifics.


After all the vomiting on Modi, now she shifts the blame on Indians.

Indians are harsh and for specific. Very difficult people.

God! Make this garbage people just disappear and transfer them to say Pakiland. They will be very happy.

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Postby jamwal » 09 Apr 2013 23:26

Anyone here heard about Modinama articles on Manushi.in ?
The organisation has been slapped with FCRA notice allegedly for writing above mentioned pro-Modi articles.
http://www.manushi.in/articles.php?arti ... ype&pgno=1

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Postby Sushupti » 09 Apr 2013 23:28

viv wrote:
Sushupti wrote:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Narendra-Modi-desperate-to-become-prime-minister-JD-U-says/articleshow/19459899.cms

Sivanand Tiwari is another sample of cow belt "Lotta".He was with Nitish at the start of Samta Party (earlier version of JDU). Switched to Lalu after Lalu won in 2000. He used to abuse Nitish Kumar months before he joined back JDU in 2009.


That should make both 'Lotta' - no?


You mean Nitish?.

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Postby Prem » 09 Apr 2013 23:36

vijayk wrote:
Sushupti wrote:Hurt is showing.
Why it is wrong to compare Rahul Gandhi with Modi
http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/s ... 130409.htm



Its not the hurt but fear . The simple fact that EJ, Islamists, Comission agents etc all want Dhongipower put them in the enemy category of Indian people. They remain one of them.

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Postby muraliravi » 09 Apr 2013 23:39

Sushupti wrote:
viv wrote:
That should make both 'Lotta' - no?


You mean Nitish?.


Shivanand Tiwari and Nitish are just mouth pieces of Advani, everything else is just distraction.

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Postby Muppalla » 09 Apr 2013 23:43

That Omar Akhtar article is hillarious. He calls BJP as IJP and Modi as Bodi. What the hell :rotfl: :rotfl:

This one and Seema M's articles are symbols of the fear that are coming out in full swing.

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Postby vijayk » 10 Apr 2013 01:03

^^ or may be this is how the CON media, Paki ISI types, NACXLites are all doing the propaganda. Can you imagine what they are writing in the Urdu papers?

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Postby pentaiah » 10 Apr 2013 01:33

LKg is either hawa or hawala driven.

Ask Rahul Mehta ji about Loh pursuh whose eutectic point is 30 degree centigrade

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Postby ramana » 10 Apr 2013 01:50

So Rajiv Gandhi's Swedish connections go long and deep even when he was not in politics. Wonder if his being an agent for Saab for Viggen deal had something to do withteh latter Bofors scam?

I think all the dilli billi children go to Londonistan to get trained in scams and develop links.

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Postby member_22539 » 10 Apr 2013 02:10

RoyG wrote:



Thank you for this video. It was positively delicious seeing congis and their bootlickers getting thrashed so soundly :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Postby harbans » 10 Apr 2013 02:14

Going by NMs record and his handling of sensitive and very prickly topics, seems he is very clear headed, very holistic, rational in his approach and on top of that is very well aware of the micro issues behind. Of all people who have been in power till date, the most rational FP decisions will possibly be taken by NM when and if he becomes a PM. He won't be a war monger, but he will take the toughest decisions that will not upset the holistic balance wrt to a situation that Pakistan may or will engender if he is PM. The way he approached the Labor questions posed by Industry stalwarts, the way he made suggestions on state business missions for different countries, the way he said 'hum gujarati hain, business runs in our veins..munafaa to jaroor kar ke chorunga' (apologies not exact wordings), India is being offered the best Governance option in decades on a platter..must not let it go.

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Postby fanne » 10 Apr 2013 03:36

Let me put it this way, after a long time (and never so far in independent India), we have Leader of this caliber, They say without Ben Gurion Israel would have not gained its independence, he was a strategic asset, so is Modi. What India will be in 100 to 500 years depends today, we are witnessing history!!
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Postby Reddy » 10 Apr 2013 03:48

Sushupti wrote:Hurt is showing.
Why it is wrong to compare Rahul Gandhi with Modi
http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/s ... 130409.htm


Trying to defend undefendable - sounds so much like Jay trying to convince Mausi to give her consent for the marriage of Basanti and Veeru/pappu in Sholay movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVvHVS8kTzE
:rotfl:

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Postby krisna » 10 Apr 2013 03:48

The BJP women spokespersons on the paid news channels are combative, put the congis and their supporters to shame.
nice.
have seen a few of their shows - Mrs Lekhi, Shaina, Nirmala Seetharaman, Smriti Irani etc.
fun to watch them go after the congis with facts. :rotfl:

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Postby Sushupti » 10 Apr 2013 04:09

krisna wrote:The BJP women spokespersons on the paid news channels are combative, put the congis and their supporters to shame.
nice.
have seen a few of their shows - Mrs Lekhi, Shaina, Nirmala Seetharaman, Smriti Irani etc.
fun to watch them go after the congis with facts. :rotfl:


Scene has changed since Modi's arrival at central level and D4 is losing prominence i.e. Gujaraat Elections. I had almost stopped watching TV debates during D4 days. BJP participants were nothing but sacrificial goats destined to be kicked all over before final halaling.
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Postby SwamyG » 10 Apr 2013 04:45

Tamang wrote:
Chandragupta wrote:Around 9 yesterday, there was a show on some English news channel with Kiron Kher from BJP and Sanjay Jha(ntu) from the Congress, in the larger panel of around 5-6 people. Anybody remember which channel & show it was? I could just catch a glimpse of Jhantu speaking some nonsense.


NDTV, hosted by Nidhi Razdan

I started watching that online, and could not stand the woman in green saree and large bindi. She kept interrupting the Captain, I could not watch it anymore. The size of the bindi is inversely proportional to intelligence/bias.

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby suryag » 10 Apr 2013 04:54

Yaaron kahin nazar na lage modi pey, seriously am worried about the possibility of him losing because of the high expectations i have from him

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Postby Prem » 10 Apr 2013 05:44

suryag wrote:Yaaron kahin nazar na lage modi pey, seriously am worried about the possibility of him losing because of the high expectations i have from him


In 70-80-90s one of the biggest question marks in front of India was who will be the next ruler. Indians were afraid of deluge after JLN death ,Shastri's death, IG's death, RG death etc . We have nou matured enough to not to worry about this any more. Political stability and maturity will come full term after Modi is elected. One big weakness removed by democractic method./ benefit. Modi will build the institutions also which Congress trying best to undo by prmoting DieNowAsty.

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Postby Pranav » 10 Apr 2013 06:22

From Modinama 5 (http://www.manushi.in/articles.php?arti ... pe=&pgno=1) -

The madrasa in Dabhel in Navsari district near Surat is considered to be the Deoband of Gujarat. The Mufti of that institution is an all-rounder – he reads the Hadis, knows the tafsil of the Koran. The delegation explained to Modi that their children study in madrasas for 8 to 9 years. After this when they leave the madrasa, there is no recognition of the certificate/ degree that they get from these community institutions. As a result they are unable to get any job. The delegation wanted that after due evaluation of the madrasa, the certificate given by them to the students should be recognized by the government. Modi asked them to describe what is taught in their madrasas. He listened patiently for over 45 minutes to these maulanas’ description of the subjects that are taught and their range of disciplines included in the madrasas. He was impressed with their curriculum and the quality of education being imparted. The delegation also requested him to ensure that the students passing out from madrasas are enabled to get admission to second year BA so that they may continue their education in the mainstream system. Modi responded saying it is an excellent idea and he would lend full support to it.


Some 4 years ago a group of about 40-50 Muslims went to meet Modi. I was part of that group. This delegation said to him, “People think your speeches widen the gulf between Hindus and Muslims”. He replied: “Forget my tenure as CM; I have been an RSS pracharak (preacher) for long years before that. If you can pick even one offensive sentence from my speeches as a pracharak (preacher), I will voluntarily quit my public life and resign as CM. I want you to note three things in particular. I have:

a) Never made a negative comment about Mohammad sahib.
b) Never attacked Islam;
c) Never attacked the Koran.
If any of you find evidence to the contrary, bring it to me. I will right away resign as CM.”


Let me give you an illustration of this. A Muslim once wrote to Modi saying, “You should not judge Islam from the behaviour of current day Muslims. I want you to read this biography of the Prophet to understand Islam in its true spirit.”

Sure enough Modi read the book very closely. I know this because once a group of us 25 Muslims had gone to discuss some issues with him relating to education. In the midst of our conversation, Modi took out that book and read out a quotation from the Hadis where the Prophet says that seeking knowledge is the duty of every Muslim — be it man or woman. Muslims should be knowledge seekers, no matter how much effort it takes and how far the person has to travel for it. Modi told us: ‘Islam is the first religion to lay such emphasis on the need to acquire knowledge by one and all. I feel very sad that today’s Muslims have come to be branded as jaahil, backward looking people caught in a time warp.’

It was interesting to see how carefully Modi was reading that biography. It was marked, underlined in key places with notes written all over the book.


The question which arises - does Modi really understand Islam and its Prophet?

One would prefer to have him reach out to Muslims directly as individuals and citizens, rather than through Mullahs and Madrassas.

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Sushupti » 10 Apr 2013 06:29

Super funny!!. Watch Raul.

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Sushupti » 10 Apr 2013 06:34

Raibahaduri at it's best.
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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Gus » 10 Apr 2013 08:01

request for starting a youtube channel for good speeches by NM and subtitles for those who aren't good in hindi. anybody up for this?


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