Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

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Narayana Rao wrote:what do you mean sirji
Many immigrants come to America with no money or resource. Thru sheer hardwork and determination they achieve great success. That is the American Dream.

NaMo starting with nothing --he was a high school dropout at one point of his life-- and becoming the most popular leader in India.... An Indian version of the American Dream for sure.
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Sushupti Sir we know this guy is a problem and anti -India, anti-Hindu, /anti-bjp. Why post him again and again, it only gets your BP in dangerous territory.
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And look who comes out in support of Namo... BSP!

Modi's 'puppy' remark: JD(U), Congress slam Gujarat CM; Mayawati's MP supports him

realignment of the entire indian political space is going on.
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Looks like Reuter correspondent deleted the tweet under pressure.

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I have read that tweet myself. But it was gone few hours back. You cannot blame her. We cannot expect a common person to stand up to the might of the establishment.
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prahaar wrote:I have read that tweet myself. But it was gone few hours back. You cannot blame her. We cannot expect a common person to stand up to the might of the establishment.
Agree!
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Now we are in the all out war - Jail or killing of NaMo can not be ruled out. I am sure INC will spare no efforts to win.
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am i the only person getting a bit annoyed by this

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Narayana Rao wrote:Now we are in the all out war - Jail or killing of NaMo can not be ruled out. I am sure INC will spare no efforts to win.
I agree. If any of those scenarios were to happen, Delhi will be sacked by force. It will turn into a fortress overnight.
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Ottovio Quattrochi died in Milan. I wouldn't be surprised if he was killed.
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Nari shakti is starting to raise. Priti Gandhi started off in the Vishnu's interview well, but after Meenakshi joined the panel (a little late), Vishnu stopped going to Priti - sad. Meenakshi is pretty vocal and a strong fighter, no doubt TV anchors want her and fighters on their show. All TV ratings only.

Like Faking News called it out, media has a huge role to play in this natak baazi - they know Modi brings readers to their websites, and viewers to their TV shows. To them it is a reality show, they will milk it till the elections. Obviously some of them align with INC/UPA; but there will be always some businessman who will want to jump in and show both sides - BJP and INC.

Except Modi, there is not any other politician who draws this much attention. Why would the media not love this? All ambitious politicians want to stay relevant, and throw in their opinion about Modi - his actions and word. Like Jaggi said in First Post, any reporter worth his salt (sadly) will bring 2002 riots.

Sruti tweeting and deleting her tweet is part of this tamasha. By deleting - a tactical mistake on her part, she has given ammunition to Modi supporters.
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I think we have reached the time for bi-party system now, like liberals vs conservatives, democrats vs republicans..

ours:
hooligans vs. normals
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RoyG wrote:
Narayana Rao wrote:Now we are in the all out war - Jail or killing of NaMo can not be ruled out. I am sure INC will spare no efforts to win.
I agree. If any of those scenarios were to happen, Delhi will be sacked by force. It will turn into a fortress overnight.
Are you going to take the lead role in buying the weapons and recruiting the fighters? If not, don't assume that anybody else will.
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Pranav wrote:

Are you going to take the lead role in buying the weapons and recruiting the fighters? If not, don't assume that anybody else will.
Maybe he will. You never know who will join and lead the resistance.
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darshhan wrote:
Pranav wrote:

Are you going to take the lead role in buying the weapons and recruiting the fighters? If not, don't assume that anybody else will.
Maybe he will. You never know who will join and lead the resistance.
Don't want to be discouraging, but spontaneous revolutions never happen. You always need a huge amount of orchestration, planning, money, weapons, logistics, infiltration ... and even then it is extremely chancy.

Other than the western oligarchic banking families, nobody has a successful track record in the art of revolutions.
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RoyG wrote:Ottovio Quattrochi died in Milan. I wouldn't be surprised if he was killed.
No day of mourning declared in Kaurvangress Indraprasht on the death of Mama Shakuni.
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Mahabharat coming again to End the Kalyug and start new Yug.

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pandyan wrote:
SwamyG wrote: Sruti tweeting and deleting her tweet is part of this tamasha. By deleting - a tactical mistake on her part, she has given ammunition to Modi supporters.
may be not. she expressed her opinion and knew that there would be "pressure" from higher up..so promptly deleted it. win-win onlee.
That is what I am saying, her deleting it actually helps Modi.
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Pranav wrote: Are you going to take the lead role in buying the weapons and recruiting the fighters? If not, don't assume that anybody else will.
Kejriwal babu will!
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kumarn wrote:And look who comes out in support of Namo... BSP!

Modi's 'puppy' remark: JD(U), Congress slam Gujarat CM; Mayawati's MP supports him

realignment of the entire indian political space is going on.
He hasn't been expelled yet. This means Bahanji doesn't want Hindu reaction to benefit only BJP. For her UC vote is first priority and M vote comes second.
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prahaar, You are looking for your image in every BJP spokesperson. Spinister used to do that and nothing would please him. It only go him grief.

Pranav, Take it easy.
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BJP is not as wile and cunning politically as the Congis thats for sure, and just because one is less evil, Mother Nature does not cut us any slack. There is no "Secret" that makes the universe do the right thing if just one wishes and believes in it. Truth does win ultimately, but stupidity can delay that inevitability by a very very very long time, sometimes making it a Pyrrhic victory.

If the BJP had just managed NOT to destroy the Babri mosque it would have given them a brute majority and a base in every nook and corner of India. Talk about killing the Golden Goose. And I say that as one who always opposed the RJB movement in principle, but as a political tactic it was awesome.

I have just one suggestion for the BJP which I do not understand why it does not follow. It is often called fascist and "Goebellsian", but they have learned no lessons from some of the great ideas that the fascists did have:

1. Call the Congis CHAMCHAS, SYCOPHANTS, chamcha party, shameless boot lickers etc etc every opportunity one can. Day in day out, TV, radio, print, rallies. Call them Chamchas in your sleep. Call them CHAMCHAS when discussion is serious or trivial, on womens rights, or economics, on any topic irrespective of context. So much so often that even Congis kids start calling their parents Chamchas, so much that even the True Believer Congi starts questioning if he is really a subconcious CHAMCHA. Create self doubt.

This is the simplest strategy that the Congis have done with the Secularism/BJP and this one trick gave them power for 10 years and intellectual legitimacy for another 20.
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The Congis have reduced honor in being a BJP supporter as nobody wants to be considered prejudiced. For all their shehanigans, they have managed sometime through sheer silence, through a mealy mouthed non entity front face to retain DIGNITY in being a Congi. Reduce honor of Congis, esp effective in an honor and shame based society such as India. In a different sorta society such as the US it would be a failure coz people are less touchy about their public image.
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This is Reuters other/followup article on Modi: Special Report: The remaking of Narendra Modi
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Re the Ishrat family nominee -

Govt behind Parliament attack, 26/11: Ishrat probe officer - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 062116.cms
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kamments galore.
looks like the puppy controversy did not help pappu.

If only NaMo had said pappu, well NaMo is damn too clever for himself.

Pappu is too decent to even think of it.
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RoyG wrote:Ottovio Quattrochi died in Milan. I wouldn't be surprised if he was killed.

The guy was 74. Hardly an untimely death. He just died. And this will not change a thing or generate any relief folks in 10 Janpath

Fact of the matter is that BOFORs is probably the littlest of skeletons in the cupboards of those who hold the reins of power in Delhi. With the helicopter scam, CWG, Coalgate, Nuclear etc. you name it, the skeletons are growing. If they had any concerns they would not be so brazen, and stupid their coterie and handlers are not.
Obviously someone, somewhere has granted them immunity and very strong immunity at that. Look at all the west supported Generals in the middle east who only get into trouble after they threaten the west in some way - economic or otherwise. The 10 janpath wallahs will never make that mistake. They are hired guns of sorts with allegiance only to money (there is a little bit of alignment by religious values) and that sort of transparency is precisely what gives them immunity and support from ROW sort of like the boudoir that gets the protection of various patrons at different periods of time. No one has any incentive to destroy and the boudoir is always protected. Who cares if the madame is trafficking women, children and enabling the vilest of acts.
The threats from within India are dealt with in what ROW would objectively consider a travesty of justice but here keeps quiet e.g., Ramdev and others.
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@timesofindia apologizes for misquoting Baluni Uttarkhand BJP Chief

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/ ... wMode=HTML
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'Puppy' remark blown out of context, tweets reporter who interviewed Modi


http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/nare ... 91233.html
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Like him or hate him, Modi is here to stay

Narendra Modi shows the victory sign to his supporters on 9 June 2013 after being appointed chairman of the BJP Election Campaign Committee for 2014 Lok Sabha polls. PTI

he only bad news for a politician is no news about him, and nowhere does this adage work better than in the case of Narendra Modi, who has become the focus of rival campaigns, one by his admirers and the other by his traducers. Aware of his pulling power, television channels beam live presentations of the increasing number of speaking engagements that the Gujarat Chief Minister has, especially in the national capital. Now that they have been back in power for nine years, and despite the fact that regular power supply is still a mirage for most of the country's population (or indeed any electric power at all), the Congress has reverted to the pre-NDA view of themselves as the natural party of governance. For the party loyalists, Delhi belongs to them by right and tradition and they bristle at a "regional" politician getting the prominence that Modi has achieved within the national capital region (NCR), especially one who is so openly disrespectful of the First Family.

The NDA had an opportunity during 1998-2004 to make Congress dominance in the national capital history. Indeed, Pramod Mahajan came very close in 2001 to ensuring that more than a third of Congress MPs split to join the NDA, before he was warned off that project by Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee, who regards the Congress' First Family as his own family and has always been solicitous of their welfare. Part of the reason why the NDA was unable to break the hold of the Congress over state power was because it was so similar to India's current ruling party. The BJP metamorphosed, from a "party with a difference" to an organisation happy to adopt classic Nehruvian ways.

Vajpayee's policy of appearing in RSS rallies as an ardent swayamsevak got combined with the way in which RSS-friendly elements were ignored by his administration in favour of those who were for long Congress servitors. This dual track approach of talking BJP but acting Congress confused the public and helped to ensure that enough voters (who would ordinarily have voted for the BJP) stayed away in 2004 to help cause an upset win for the Congress. Analysts claim that it was the "superior alliance" led by the Congress that ensured its win. The fact is that the Vajpayee-run NDA had become too diffused an entity to benefit its own allies, which of course is the reason why the Congress would like to see another version of Vajpayee take charge of the BJP.

Narendra Modi may love and admire Atal Behari Vajpayee, but he is very different from the BJP patriarch. There is no ambiguity in his manner or in his message. Like him or hate him, he will not change. While such a trait makes those steeped in the durbari culture of Delhi wary of the man, it is precisely such directness that has won the Gujarat CM so many admirers. He has cellophane for his packaging, and highlights his regional experience to a country no longer in thrall to Delhi-based leaders. Just as the US electorate began to choose politicians from the states in preference to Washington insiders, so too are Indian voters likely to prefer them to the cosy set that for decades has dominated India through their control of the NCR's levers of power. Should the BJP win close to 200 seats, Narendra Modi will be the PM. Should it get about 165, he could become the Deputy PM, a Sardar Patel to someone who will be far from a Nehru, showing the public just how good an administrator he is, so that they next time around, they will vote the now nationally tested Team Modi into office. Lower than 165, he would still be the Leader of the Opposition in the Lok Sabha, and a determined foe to match wits with. No matter what the 2014 arithmetic is, Modi is here to stay.

There are many within his own party who are wishing that the BJP gets less than 180 seats, "so that Modi cannot become PM". They understand that should this man from the provinces take over the reins of power, it will no longer be "business as usual". Although these same voices will ask of Narendra Modi that he refuse any post at the Central level lower than that of PM, the fact is that stepping into Sardar Patel's shoes too would be a shrewd career move.

Had the Sardar lived another few years, the steep difference in direction and efficiency between him and Nehru would have led to the pre-Indira Congress replacing Nehru with Patel as the head of the government. Whatever the Sardar handled, he handled firmly and well. Should Modi agree to the 1970s Achutha Menon model, where the CPI leader became CM of Kerala even though the Congress had more seats, he would — should he deliver results — lead the BJP to power during the next election. Hence the political need for him to be central in Delhi, whether as PM, as Deputy PM, or as Leader of the Opposition.

http://www.sunday-guardian.com/analysis ... re-to-stay
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I am sure, our people will continue to ask for his extradition.
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All of a sudden just like a storm, puppy story came and disappear today. Coincidence or co-ordination?
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its a news cycle that's all. the swarm moves on.
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today NaMo have programs in Pune Maharashtra he will be addressing students(mark the word Student) then will address a rally in some medical college(once again students) then will vimochan a book "kchama " (to forgive) by some Sadhu so NaMo will in one stroke address 65 percent of the voters who if properly handled will vote above caste religion or region and Sadhus who in turn will
influence their potbellied jwelled followers to vote. supposedly large number of NaMo posters and accompanied paraphernalia placed all over Pune, this raises a question "wat about yen see pee
they are the overlord of Pune?" there are rumors going about that one potbellied person got a phone call from a shrieking lady to which the gentleman diplomatically conveyed his helplessness India is a democrazy, no? more importantly yen see pee workers have taken a mass vacation this Sunday.
expect mucho more shrieks and howls from the usual places and people, whether NaMo will become the PM or not, this election ain't gonna be boring loike last 2 preceding elections.
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Beni Babu minister of hogwashers and ispaat(steel) has once again been ordered to hogwash(what else he is good at?) in an attempt take away people attention so that the usual can wipe off rotten eggs and tomatoes from their faces resulting from the puppy fiasco since even minorities began asking
does kangress equate minorties with janawar?(they cannot utter the word dog) shame on them, etc etc. :rotfl: :rotfl:
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NaMo live at Fergusson college Pune 12:00pm onwards

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Modi said it! : "Bara so saal ki gulami ke baad bhi...": Don't remember any politician saying that ever.. :)
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Modi should challenge the prince for an open debate on some TV
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