Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 26 Jul 2013 21:46

Manish_Sharma wrote:How much roles gurus will play in getting votes for modi? Like Sarv Shri Asaram Bapu, Ramdev, Sri sri ravi shankar & Ramesh Bhai Ojha etc.

I feel if these above + others also ask their followers to vote for bjp, their devotees are going to do exactly that.

Unlike Muslim ulema and Christian Church, Hindu Gurus do not ask their supporters to voter for specific party. They simply say vote for Dharma and Bharatamata. It is up to the individual, with the help of proper understanding, to decide who is on the side of Dharma and nation and who is not.

disha · Post by **disha** » 26 Jul 2013 22:18

CBN should go away from TDP. He is just a slimy politician. Time for some junior NTR to take up father's/grand father's mantle and go forward.

bhavani · Post by **bhavani** » 26 Jul 2013 22:28

CBN's biggest mistake was he removed any second tier leadership. The whole party revolves around him. NTR was a mass leader, but he maintained a second rung of leaders like CBN, Daggubati venkateswara rao, Devender Goud, paritala ravi etc and many more. Now TDP has no grass roots leaders at district level. TDP is pretty much lost. It will have a better chance if andhra splits. If Sonia splits Andhra, TRS and COngress will take telangana, but TDP will sweep Andhra.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 26 Jul 2013 22:32

I would say UPA-3 is coming. No way the corrupt architecture will tolerate someone who will eventually jail/execute them. They will bump him off last minute.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 26 Jul 2013 22:55

bhavani wrote:CBN's biggest mistake was he removed any second tier leadership. The whole party revolves around him. NTR was a mass leader, but he maintained a second rung of leaders like CBN, Daggubati venkateswara rao, Devender Goud, paritala ravi etc and many more. Now TDP has no grass roots leaders at district level. TDP is pretty much lost. It will have a better chance if andhra splits. If Sonia splits Andhra, TRS and COngress will take telangana, but TDP will sweep Andhra.

TDP has no worry about that. CBN always had second tier. Devender Goud was/is his right hand man. Unfortunately, Yerram Naidu died. Devender Goud is dying. There are many trusted second tier for him now also. If CBN happen to die suddenly, there is succession protocol also so there wouldn't be any crisis. Without grass roots leaders, it is tough to win Panchayati elections. Recent good show by TDP is indicative of the good leadership at local level.

TDP's main worry is how to win by navigating through minefields set by INC, YSRC, and TRS which are all INC allies for UPA-3. Main worry is how to retain Telangana areas and how to sweep in Seema and Coastal areas in next elections.

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 26 Jul 2013 22:57

Viv S wrote:
AjayKK wrote:Any argument that states that "SSC etc <insert name here > possibly bring other parties" that will not come if BJP crosses 180 is false, silly, politically immature and 100 % motivated to cap the potential of "the Namo election" and hence will only add into the tally of the Congis.
Yeah, that should cover all bases.

The fall of the NDA govt in 1998 (where the BJP has 180 seats) is an adequate example of the necessity of a strong coalition. Even in 1999 the NDA was able to form the govt only because of outside support from a dominant TDP. At 180 seats, the BJP still needs another 90 to form the govt. Between the Shiv Sena (8-10), AIADMK (25), SAD (5), AGP (2-3) [all generous assessments]. That's 45 seats with perhaps a few more from the MNS. That still leaves the NDA a good 40 seats short of the half-way mark.

As of today, Modi despite his many strengths lacks what Vajpayee brought and Shivraj Singh Chauhan brings to the table; broad acceptability across the political spectrum. Given that every single seat counts, the support of the JD(U), TDP, TMC, which Modi cannot deliver, could make or break the govt.

Viv S. The BJP knows its survival instincts better than you or I do. The institutional wisdom of the BJP says, that it does best, when it polarizes the hell out of the country and the electorate.

This is the 90's BJP, with RJbhoomi, Babri, Kargil etc.

At this time, it so happens that the institutional genes of the BJP, which are Hindutva, coincide with the good-governance Mexican wave image that Modi brings to the table.

That might just cause a resonating frequency and maximize the electoral chances of the BJP.

Call it what you want, but the RSS and BJP sure feel this way. Unlike 2004 , where all they had was India shining in a country of low telecom and TV penetration density......and very little Hindutva..now they have a lots of media to spread the good work that Modi has been doing in Gujarat+ Hindutva image that comes from the Modi-eats-babies concept.

And thats a good thing I say!

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 26 Jul 2013 23:02

M.P Chief Minister singing beautiful bhajan
Start at 1.30. He might turn out to be worst nightmare for PSers,Ej and Xongi and one step ahead of NAMO Narsingh,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsar67sTy70

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 26 Jul 2013 23:03

Viv S wrote:As of today, Modi despite his many strengths lacks what Vajpayee brought and Shivraj Singh Chauhan brings to the table; broad acceptability across the political spectrum. Given that every single seat counts, the support of the JD(U), TDP, TMC, which Modi cannot deliver, could make or break the govt.

Saar I guess you've written this post with good intentions but this is senseless. This is what Advani's supporters have been spouting. Modi personifies the kind of party BJP needs to become : unapologetic nationalism. What is the point of a BJP led government that is tied by the same secular interests as the rest of the political spectrum? TMC, JDU and even TDP now have state compulsions that demand minority appeasement, there are two ways that a NDA government with these parties would go:

1. BJP waters down its stand on its core issues in exchange for secular support
2. BJP refuses to stand down & the coalition breaks apart

BJP left RJB, UCC & 370 at the doorstep of 7 RCR when they first made the government. Biggest mistake till date. Why do you want them to repeat it?

BJP should go to the electorate & tell them we will not water down our stand just because we need a coalition to come to power. If you want us to make the government, give us the numbers.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 26 Jul 2013 23:40

ROFL!!!

Narendra Modi Doing Things

http://namodoingthings.tumblr.com/page/2

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 26 Jul 2013 23:54

UnReal Times: Various politicians answer the Class V comprehension passage on Rahul Gandhi

Diggy’s answer:

Mulayam’s answer:

Dr. Manmohan Singh’s answer:

Nitish Kumar’s answer:

Sushilkumar Shinde’s answer:

Dr. Shashi Tharoor’s answer:

Dr. Subramanian Swamy’s answer:

Viv S · Post by **Viv S** » 26 Jul 2013 23:57

muraliravi wrote:Let me tell you how BJP will get the 90 seats.

1. Going by most surveys SAD on an average will get 6 seats.
2. Shiv Sena will get 11-13 seats (the CSDS survey cannot be ur sole point of reference, there are ton of other surveys on Maharashtra) http://www.newsbullet.in/india/34-more/42009-Major reverses for UPA in 4 key states: Survey
3. MNS and RPI will give about 5 seats
4. Modi will for sure strike a deal with INLD (just wait) and they will for sure deliver at least 2 seats
5. Assam, AGP will get 3 seats
6. A deal with Marandi will be announced by September and he will give 4 seats
7. Why pipe dream on DMK/Cong boss. Jaya will get a minimum of 30 seats

Thats 62 seats right there. So they need 28 more.

All theoretically feasible yes. But I believe they're all very optimistic projections, I'd predict 1 or 2 seats less on each of the points 1-6 except for no. 4 (2 seats for INLD sounds about right). RPI for example is in running for only 1 seat, which Athawale will probably lose anyway. The MNS has no presence in the LS and its showing in state and municipal elections to date has been grossly underwhelming. It all banks on a windfall via AIADMK.

A total of 55 seats would be the higher end of my prediction, leaving at least 35 balance. Trouble is this is again based on an optimistic assumption of the BJP hitting the healthy 180 mark and the INC not being able to work the numbers to its advantage. For all you know they may just go ahead an co-opt the AIADMK altogether (the AIADMK formed the TN govt in alliance with the Left which isn't likely to as supportive if partnered indirectly with the BJP in LS polls).

But assuming those numbers work out for the BJP, assuming that the BJD supports from outside and assuming that between the rebels and independents, the NDA manages to edge past the finish line - it'll hardly in position to provide any degree of credible governance while tethering on the edge. It'd would have go out of its way to appease each of its supporters and ensure that they're onboard with every last legislative proposal tabled.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 27 Jul 2013 00:07

would what happened to ishrat jahan and the case here: [url=http://www.thehindu.c=om/opinion/lead/what-pathribal-means-for-india/article4953373.ece?homepage=true]pathribal[/url] similar, from the context of responsibility from ownership of such incidents?

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Prem · Post by **Prem** » 27 Jul 2013 01:39

NAMonia Victim and PSec Namoona

Nobel laureate Amartya Sen offers to return award

Media in India are discussing Nobel laureate Amartya Sen's offer to return the Bharat Ratna, India's highest civilian honour, after he was criticised for his remarks about controversial politician Narendra Modi.A noted economist, Mr Sen has said he does not want to see Mr Modi, the chief minister of the western state of Gujarat, as prime minister, according to newspaper reports.Mr Modi is a senior leader of the main opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and the party's campaign chief for the general election, due next year.Reacting to demands by BJP MP Chandan Mitra to return the Bharat Ratna, the Nobel laureate has offered to return the award, reports the Hindustan Times.
"Mr Chandan Mitra may not know that the Bharat Ratna was given to me by the BJP-led government and was handed to me by [former PM] Atal Behari Vajpayee. If Mr Vajpayee wants me to return it, I will certainly return it," the paper quotes Mr Sen as saying.Mr Modi often divides political opinion in India. Many feel he did little to stop the anti-Muslim riots in his state in 2002, which left over 1,000 people dead. Mr Modi has always denied any wrongdoing.The BJP has sought to distance itself from Mr Mitra's comment, saying the remarks were made by him in his personal capacity. But the ruling Congress party says Mr Mitra's comments show the BJP's "fascist mentality", reports The Indian Express.
And in some controversial remarks, a leader of the ruling Congress party has said it is possible to have a full meal in Delhi for only five rupees (8 cents, 5 pence).Congress leader Rasheed Masood's statement that "one can eat well" for five rupees in Jama Masjid area of Delhi has outraged many, reports The Pioneer.The Times of India says it tried to offer five rupees to a beggar in Jama Masjid area but she refused to take it, saying she "will not get anything for this".
The remarks come amid criticism of a new government report which shows a steep decline in the country's poverty levels in recent years. Al-Qaeda poem removed
Meanwhile, Calicut University in the southern state of Kerala has decided to remove a poem written by an Al-Qaeda leader from its syllabus after protests, reports the Hindustan Times.Ode to the Sea, written by Ibrahim al-Rubaish, was part of the Literature and Contemporary Issue Studies course at the university.Critics are unhappy with the decision, saying it is an attack on creativity."It is a sad day. How can you kill creativity like this? I read the poem more than once. No objectionable line is there," the paper quotes poet K Satchidhanandan as saying.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 27 Jul 2013 01:47

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 27 Jul 2013 01:51

It is indeed very sad that an absolute nobody like buddhu is one of the front runners for the post of PM

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 27 Jul 2013 01:52

Jhujar wrote:M.P Chief Minister singing beautiful bhajan
Start at 1.30. He might turn out to be worst nightmare for PSers,Ej and Xongi and one step ahead of NAMO Narsingh,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsar67sTy70

Excellent!

Watch his speech: http://youtu.be/HHT-GgFXRqY

I think Sanku will have final laugh. All Bhajapa are playing a script written by Sri Krishna to manage the termite system.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Jul 2013 01:59

Amartya Sen on second thoughts might return the award as it was given by communal party in power!

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 27 Jul 2013 01:59

can somebody explain the % logic here:

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 27 Jul 2013 02:04

Can you post the source of all these tables you are putting up? Which survey are they from... the CNN-IBN one?

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 27 Jul 2013 02:13

yes./chindu
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/h ... epage=true

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 27 Jul 2013 02:26

http://www.thefridaytimes.com/beta3/tft ... 26&page=13
Modi will lose now to win hereafter
Saeed Naqvi:

hen the Monsoon session of the Indian Parliament opened in August 2010, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh invited opposition leaders for dinner. The BJP declined because central agencies were proceeding against Gujarat Home Minister Amit Shah. This stand by the principal opposition instilled great fear in the ranks of the Treasury Benches. Note how the BJP rallied behind Narendra Modi, the rising star.Such was the state of funk in the ruling party that the Monsoon session passed without Amit Shah's name being mentioned even once. For this act of grace, there was repayment in kind. Foreign Policy, Palestine, Economy, Nuclear Liability, forward trading in food grains, Kashmir, even Pakistan - all these issues remained uncontested.That was then. Last week, there was something of a deja vu. Outlook magazine had a bold cover story: "UPA's Rs 54,500 Crore Gas Rip-off". That was not all. The three deck headline rested on another line in bold fonts: "And the BJP's Shocking Silence".How "shocking" BJP's silence is on this and other issues - for instance, the list on which Foreign Direct Investment has been most generously allowed - will become clear in the coming Monsoon session.It is elementary that Modi is no coalition builder Today Modi is not just a rising, but a risen star. If coordination between major parties is the name of the game it would be appropriate to understand the level of coordination for all round benefit. All round benefit means benefit to India Inc (headquartered in Mumbai), Congress, BJP and the Multinationals who have gauged India as a trillion dollar market which could be utilized for global economic recovery, after which we may have time to consider the Indian People too.
It is elementary that Modi is no coalition builder. Since only a coalition, a UPA-III or an NDA-II, are possible after the 2014 General Elections, why is Modi being projected? And what is he being projected as? There is an Urdu expression, "mubham", or "vague" which does not quite convey the meaning. French drivers have a vivid expression for dusk, "neither wolf nor dog".The BJP has not announced Modi as the Prime Ministerial candidate. He is the chief of the party's campaign panel, a position earlier held by Pramod Mahajan and Arun Jaitley. And yet, there he goes flying, higher and higher, on the winged horse called the media.Shikar or hunting is out of fashion in India but the sport offers an interesting insight on current politics. The easiest bird to shoot is the one in flight. Place Modi in that analogy and he makes for an easy target for all the party leaders who threw a ginger fit at his elevation in the Goa conclave. Gaining height prematurely is risky politics.It is also something of a puzzle, though, that all the leaders who had trooped into LK Advani's Prithviraj Road residence, imploring him not to resign and who established instant contact with RSS supremo Mohan Bhagwat to intervene and restore the balance away from Modi, have, one by one, fallen in line with the elevation given to the Gujarat strongman.Have they fallen in line with the Goa decision because they have realized that Modi is not the party's Prime Ministerial candidate for 2014? A serious candidate for the top job will have to be a coalition builder, one who can deliver NDA-II. This Modi certainly is not.
What is he then? A Mahatma in the making because he is indifferent to power? That would be the implication if he is indifferent to coalitions. A leader of ideological purity, one who calls a spade a spade, who does not obsequiously discard the puppy image when referring to Muslims, whose larger than life posters in Mumbai proudly proclaim him as a "Hindu Nationalist"?Since 2007, just before the Assembly elections, Modi's Public Relations has been globally managed by APCO Worldwide which boasts of former US ambassador to New Delhi, Timothy Roemer, as a hands on manager with offices in Mumbai and New Delhi. APCO has an impressive record of servicing dictators like Sani Abacha in Nigeria, for instance.APCO's extraordinary projection of Modi could well polarize the national mood and yet augment the UPA's vote share in the short run. By this logic, UPA-III seems to be the emerging outcome in 2014. Which will be fine for the Corporates and their multinational links provided key enabling legislations are pushed through Parliament by the two parties.
Another reason why Modi's support team have been able to impose a fait accompli on the BJP is because of an acute fear that Modi and his Sancho Panza will, sooner or later, trip up in the course of investigations under way in Gujarat. Modi's fall will then be the BJP's fall too. But if Modi is allowed to fly high on a platform of Hindu nationalism, his being grounded will be blamed on intrigue by the forces of "pseudo secularism". This pits Modi as an embodiment of an idea shaded in dark saffron, projected in Presidential style, against the secular formations, pale and wan, poised precariously on a rickety Parliamentary platform.The real battle, then, is not being envisaged for 2014 but more like 2016.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Jul 2013 02:40

So Saeed Naqvi thinks Modi is the Ghatothkacha and the 2014 withdrawal is the Shakti.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 27 Jul 2013 02:50

ramana wrote:So Saeed Naqvi thinks Modi is the Ghatothkacha and the 2014 withdrawl is the Shakti.

I think he got the idea after reading Atri ji and others about Ghatothkasch. Interersting thing is they all fear if Modi phenomenon, whether he losses or win election. Modi have change the discourse on Idea of India (IOI)and politics based on issues / Varna , capabilities and contribution not birth based caste claim of Congressi Rahul. Modi have already recast India and As you said Reconquitadors are not far behind to reclaim their own Bharat Bhoomi and change its Bhagya.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 27 Jul 2013 04:58

Shatrughan stick

The BJP is likely to take disciplinary action against Shatrughan Sinha for “openly” speaking on the leadership joust in the party.

Sources said the process could be initiated once party chief Rajnath Singh arrives in Delhi over the weekend from his trip to the US.

“The remarks Shatrughan made constitute a breach of discipline. There is ground for action,” a source said, adding suspension could be the first step.

The “remarks” were comparisons made by the MP from Patna between L.K. Advani and Narendra Modi in TV interviews this week. He was seen as insinuating that Rajnath was playing a deeper game in a bid for the power sweepstakes.

Shatrughan said BJP workers like him and the “people of the country” would want to see Advani lead the nation because of the “innumerable sacrifices” he had made for the party.

“Modi, though, is very popular, he is a friend. If he is projected the PM candidate after the parliamentary board meeting, it would be great but our view is that Advani must be at the helm of affairs,” Shatrughan had told one channel. He described Advani as the “biggest, most important, tallest, most capable and most experienced leader of the country”.

He also termed Rajnath as “my friend” and said: “He might not say it himself. But he too is capable of becoming PM.”

A day later, he sought to modify his comments and argued that they were “neither anti-Modi nor pro-Modi” but “pro-BJP”. “I merely said that if the parliamentary board chooses Modi, whose name is energising party workers, as the PM candidate he should have the blessings and guidance of veteran leaders Advani, Murli Manohar Joshi, Sushma Swaraj, Jaswant Singh and Yashwant Sinha,” Shatrughan said.

However, the party doesn’t seem impressed. “The dominant view is that it is time to crack the whip on those determined to muddy the waters, give the Congress a handle to sound gleeful at our so-called internal problems and divert attention for the more serious national issues,” a source said.

Suggestions have also been made that Shatrughan should be held up as an example for other “errant” members.

The MP stayed away from last month’s BJP national executive meet in Goa, where Modi was anointed the national campaign committee chairperson.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130727/j ... 163224.jsp

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 27 Jul 2013 05:15

it is interesting that fear of NaMo is making congis and its allies to make mistakes.

whether it is really a msitake or not it is for time and Indians to decide--

consider this-- 1998 was a low for congis and its termite queen. 2002 was a god given oportunity to demonise BJP but naMo took the brunt of it- single handedly taking the blame. Also he grew up in stature ironically by lies of congis and its propaganda machinery. He totally destroyed congis in Gujarat. Their is aleadership crisis in congis. Funnily enough the congi leaders are from RSS. There is a fear in congi termite queen about RSS leaders in Gujarat congi party.

RSS leaders in congi can never go higher in congi circles but they cannot return to their parent base without getting brickbats and suspicion. This is a lesson for turncoats.
Now he is making a meal of congis-- this is irrespective of the congis poll results ion 2014.
Now NaMo is setting the agenda wresting it from congis.
They virtually have no answer to this phenomenon.

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To spite NaMo they are propped up low purush by banking on his unmet wishes. naMo grew in stature further. Low purush went lower in esteem and respect.

Now they are propping SSC. Now SSC is succesful in MP keeping congis at bay.
IOW they are making sure when NaMo run is over in whatever ways it can happen we have some one like SSC to take the mantle.

Let there be free publicity for SSC also.

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Raman Singh also is getting some publicity courtsey congi media.

All the more the merrier.

Now where is free publicity for VRS.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Jul 2013 05:21

Its like all those how deserted Vedic religion and jumped on Buddhist bandwagon. Once Buddhism frittered away in India these unfortunate people who were really the descendants of those who bandwagoned, suffered for centuries.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 27 Jul 2013 07:03

Sushupti wrote:

17 in Rajasthan is low, target shd be 22.

darshhan · Post by **darshhan** » 27 Jul 2013 07:31

Narayana Rao wrote: An outsider surely. FC Rajput like Rajnath Singh.

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Narayan ji, a minor correction. Shivraj singh chauhan is an obc.

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 27 Jul 2013 09:27

SaiK wrote:yes./chindu
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/h ... epage=true

I read this article in today's paper too.. And it runs quite contrary to what many of us on BRF would liek tto beleive.

For starters, it clearly says that the social policies of the UPA II have been well received by their beneficiaries in the villages.

Also, it says that Manmohan Singh is as popular as ever in India....and he maintains high popularity levels , higher than Modi, Rahul.

Interestingly, Modi and Rahul are neck and neck in this survey.

Hindu-CNN-IBN has this conclusion : "Congress will reduce to 130, BJP will get 170 , and remaining parties rest; hung parliament with no conclusive motion to BJP"

I remember that the India Today and other surveys' end conclusion was quite in the favour of NaMo, so I wonder how this one is anti-NaMo scenario?

End conclusion from my side....the perspective and the biases of the surveyOR is also important. Not too many surveys are unbiased.

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 27 Jul 2013 09:55

Narendra Modi Doing Things

We have seen Pratibha Patil Doing things. Now lets see what Narendra Modi does. BUT FROM THE EYES OF OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA AND "SECULAR INTELLECTUALS". Of course, If you are one of the few, idiotic, foolish, naive Aam Aadmis, you will see someone who wants a change and is ready to usher the change too.

geeth · Post by **geeth** » 27 Jul 2013 09:57

^^^ In that survey published in print media, Modi is most popular, but manmohan is most liked..So, do we have to conclude that a man who is most popular is not necessarily 'liked'? or a man who is least popular is most 'liked'? Some Ch*thiyapa I must say.

member_22539 · Post by **member_22539** » 27 Jul 2013 10:01

^I don't believe a word MSM says, good or bad. It is only when we let ourselves get sucked in by the "good" news that we worry about the bad news. Why would any of you believe the news or surveys done by these liars and frauds?

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 27 Jul 2013 10:16

Net net. CNN IBN Hindu is a fraud.

Maybe. Or is this a case of NaMo supporters , blaming everything on the foreign hand and Hindu Zion conspiracy and blaming everything else, and not accepting that NaMo might not be the most popular reader, pan-India?

I don't know that the Hindu is a un-thorough paper. It may be biased and all, but I would not call it unscientific.

Anyways. Popcorn and pepsi till 2014 elections are over.

member_22539 · Post by **member_22539** » 27 Jul 2013 10:31

^There might be truth in the bile of lies vomited by MSM every day, but it is not worth getting oneself worried over. As far as I am concerned, I will not believe a word they say unless there is a more credible source or if I experience it directly. Calling NaMo supporters paranoid is a bit too much don't you think? After all, hasn't the media been out to get him from Day #1? If expecting your enemy to lie most of the time and assuming whatever they say is untrue until proven otherwise is paranoid then I am indeed paranoid.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 27 Jul 2013 10:36

mahadevbhu wrote:and not accepting that NaMo might not be the most popular reader, pan-India?

Mahadevbhu, the survey confirms that NaMo is the most popular leader. Please go through it again.

For your reference, another article about the same survey: Yes, Modi is the most popular leader, Rahul trails: Survey

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 27 Jul 2013 14:18

^^ The Hindu's neuter ality is legendary. They have never and will never resort to partisan hackery. They're India's national newsvehicle after all, where old school journalism and editorial integrity still carry weight....

I know this view may well be unpopular on this dhaga but so be it....

Consider exhibit A in Hindu's nonpartisan and facyual coverage... NM's SRCC speech. I challenge anyone here to name one, any one, news vehicle that had covered the context around that speech as well and deeply as the Hindu did.

They alone covered the raging protests outside the speech venue by genuinely liberal students of SRCC. Doesn't that count for anything? So what if that was the only thing they covered about the whole speech, eh?

member_22539 · Post by **member_22539** » 27 Jul 2013 14:30

^Indeed indeed

jagga · Post by **jagga** » 27 Jul 2013 15:25

Hari Seldon wrote:They alone covered the raging protests outside the speech venue by genuinely liberal students of SRCC. Doesn't that count for anything? So what if that was the only thing they covered about the whole speech, eh?

jagga · Post by **jagga** » 27 Jul 2013 15:27

Mood of the country is in BJP’s favour: Advani

Senior BJP leader LK Advani on Saturday claimed that his party will mark a record victory in the upcoming General Election and there is a positive wave for the party amongst voters as never before.

Addressing a meeting, a confident Advani said, “Since 1952, the inception of Jan Sangh, there was no such mood before for the party amongst voters, the way it is now for the BJP.”

Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) leader LK Advani on Saturday said that his party will claim record victory in the forthcoming General Elections.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 27 Jul 2013 17:46

that is the reason i asked for the percentile logic. i would be left with only 37% if 63% eyes is on MMS. now comes the next question 63% of what sampling size are they talking?

Normally, from probabilistic theory, the best sampling method is capture-recapture technique as they do for counting animals in the paarest. Dunno, our market research wants to be that sophisticated and conducting this many times over.

there are issues too.. in terms of considering nation as a whole. the bjp supporters may distributed unevenly.. so, they have to go state wise only, and then sum it up, and throw up an average value.