Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

[Lilo]

zeenews.india.com/news/nation/minor-accuses-asaram-bapu-of-sexual-assault-delhi-police-registers-case_870505.html

great move by INC

The video of Shivraj chauhan singing a bhajan in asaram bapu's satsang is a good enough reason for INC to target him ,methinks.

[Sanku]

^^^ Its D4 conspiracy. They are in Delhi, Sonia is also in Delhi ergo they have drank water together to target Asaram Bapu.

[Lilo]

Ergo any Hindu leader who works for political consolidation of Hindus is a target ...

Since Ram Lila maidan, baba ramdev is a target now its the turn of others .

[Neela]

^^^ Its D4 conspiracy. They are in Delhi, Sonia is also in Delhi ergo they have drank water together to target Asaram Bapu.

Show some class while trolling Sanku, show some class. You come off like an amateur here. Your years of trolling experience has gotten you in a rut. Refine, invest in skills, innovate , test, and get better your trolling.
This one is insipid trolling and I am being very generous to you here. And admins are going to clearly see this. At least if you had made it witty , you would have scored points for humor and would be your parachute.
You disappoint.

[Hari Seldon]

^^^ Its D4 conspiracy. They are in Delhi, Sonia is also in Delhi ergo they have drank water together to target Asaram Bapu.

Have to agree with Neela here. expected better quality from you, saar.

[member_22539]

^Give the guy a break, he has more than one thread to troll on. I guess quality drops when quantity increases. One must console oneself with the belief that quantity is a quality in itself.

[Sanku]

Show some class while trolling Sanku, show some class. You come off like an amateur here. .

I am an amateur at trolling saar. No doubt, the experts are all in action already, so I thought I will also try my hand. Apologies for not making the cut.

Probably should have posted some random photo, or made some comment about loins of birth deciding political acumen. Just dont have that class.

[Manish_Sharma]

The video of Shivraj chauhan singing a bhajan in asaram bapu's satsang is a good enough reason for INC to target him ,methinks.

Congis and paid media hasn't forgotten Bapu calling rahul "ha ha prime minister hone ke sapne dekh rahe ho bablu" :

[Atri]

I have bad feeling about this thread... It is good that the posts are archived on BRF.. on other forums, I would have to copy my favorite posts to safe location..

Everything that has a beginning has an end, Neo !!!! perhaps, time for new avatara of this thread????

[Vipin_Upadhyay]

Now every Channel from Dynasty supported media is hyping Asaram Bapu false case.
Some one suddenly resurfaces from Rajasthan & registers case in Delhi for his daughter's rape in Rajasthan as expected Delhi Police acts on predictable line by leaking to media first before transferring this for investigation to Rajasthan Police

CONgi media handlers perfected the timing of Bapu hitjob, immediately after Dabholkar murder. Already Maha CM has compared this with Gandhi killing. pseudointellectuals are itching to lampoon Hinduism.

So, get ready for Burkha, Bunty-Bublee & assorted media scums spinning this as Hindu Godman from Modi's Gujarat.

[Atri]

CONgi media handlers perfected the timing of Bapu hitjob, immediately after Dabholkar murder. Already Maha CM has compared this with Gandhi killing. pseudointellectuals are itching to lampoon Hinduism.

So, get ready for Burkha, Bunty-Bublee & assorted media scums spinning this as Hindu Godman from Modi's Gujarat.

they also are in the process of passing anti-superstition law which will make most of the Hindu rituals and practices illegal..

Here is the draft of the proposed law which was kept hanging for 20 years..

http://www.antisuperstition.org/index.p ... &Itemid=80

After a long and gruelling campaign by ANS for the past eight years to enact a Law against Superstition which harm the citizens, the Maharashtra State Government under the leadership of the new Chief Minister Hon. Sushilkumar Shinde has passed in their Cabinet meeting such a law and sent it to the Central Government for their approval. The antecedents and the efforts that were put into by reformists to achieve such bold act are quite praiseworthy, though we have to go a long way to achieve the desired results. This will be the first law of its kind in India and may be in the world.

As the population of modern human increased on our planet, and they began to live in larger groups in tribes, to prevent dispute and aggressive behavior between members of the group or tribe, certain rules and regulations became necessary so that the member of the group could lead a relatively peaceful life. As human beings civilized more acceptable rules and regulations became necessary. As the human species civilizes into a more advanced and noble society, these rules and regulations or laws, which have regulated life of human societies, are modified when ever necessary from time to time. This evolution is still on. In our part of the world a large segment of the present society requires appropriate laws to protect them from unscrupulous members of society, which use misinformation and misguidance to cheat and harm them. To be more precise, at this moment of time in this part of the world superstitions exist in a very large extent in the majority of uneducated and educated strata of society. It is also a fact that their exist large number of people whose main means of livelihood is to misuse these superstitious beliefs and fill their own coffers. If societies have to be more civilized this situation has to be changed. This could be changed on the one hand by educating the people and on the other by preventing unscrupulous elements in society from taking advantage of the ignorance of people. Hence it is very necessary to enact a law to protect the people from such unscrupulous members of society.

Need for the Law: Questions are always posed as to whether society changes simply by enactment of rules and laws? The ineffectiveness of laws for prohibition of dowry and prohibition of alcohol consumption are cited to prove that society dose not change. But this is not the full truth. Even if we accept, that enactments of laws alone, does not compel the society to change, historical evidence in the cases of prohibition of practice of Sati, and other such uncivilized practices, proves that enactment of laws has helped society to give up such evil, uncivilized practices. Moreover, if there is an active social agitation going on in the society, against some undesirable belief systems and if a large section of society is actively participating in eradicating harmful superstitious beliefs, and then the enactment of such a law will certainly accelerate this process. Moreover, people, social reformers and well-wishers desire that in the interest of the community, their representatives should ratify such an act as early as possible.

Draft Bill: The novelty of this draft law is that it does not get entrapped in the argument of defining faith and blind faith. Hence at this point of time, what is to be considered as blind faith is given in a separate schedule. This list can be periodically updated. Hence the impediment for the enactment of this law has been overcome. The list is quite really exhaustive and includes most common superstitions prevailing in Maharashtra. The list includes

• to perform Karni, Bhanamati,
  to perform magical rites in the name of supernatural power,
  to offer ash, talisman, charms etc. for the purpose of exorcism and to drive out evil spirits or ghosts,
  to claim possession of supernatural powers and to advertise this claim,
  to defame, disgrace the names of erstwhile Saints/ Gods, by claiming to be there reincarnation and thus cheating the gullible and God-fearing simple folks.
  to claim to be possessed by divine power or evil power and then perform miracles in the name of such powers.
  to punish and to beat mentally ill patients in the belief that they are possessed by evil spirits.
  to perform Aghori rites.
  to perform so called black magic and spread fear in society.
  to perform "Gopal Santan Vidhi" to beget a male offspring.
  to oppose scientific medical treatment and to coerce to adopt Aghori treatment.
  to sell or deal in so-called magic stones, talisman, bracelets, charms.
  to become possessed by supernatural powers and then pretend to give answers to any questions in this mental state.
  to sacrifice innocent animals for the appeasement of gods or spirits.
  to dispense magical remedies for curing rabies and snake bites.
  to dispense medical remedies with claims of assured fertility.

[satya]

TWIW

No smoke without fire! Godman in news now is known to be in business of giving balis for quite sometime & he is not alone . He has long time ago crossed over the other side where balis are the only way forward ( I am sure senior forum members know what i meant ) . Problem with the current crop of Godmen is they know how to get siddhi but to maintain it is beyond their intellect hence mis steps & most of them fall along the path . Most old timer learned brahmins (karam-kaand specialists) knew tantra vidya but they had the intellect to resist its mis-use but sadly they are becoming rarer species in northern india . Most newcomers fall easy prey to Maya & rest is history .
Earlier NaMojee ensured that concerned Godman didn't jump the fence during Gujrat assembly elections . Now its INC's turn . He has a substantial following among self-employed lower-middle class to above povery line population .

[kapilrdave]

like it or not almost all (almost not all)ashram are money laundering enterprise

Not almost all sire. There are few if you go by the number of ashrams in this country. Most of them survive by the donations of their devotees. And even those who do such practices are also required in the ecosystem that we live in. Of course this should stop, but before them there are many many more things that need to stop. Until then they are required. This is OT on this thread anyways so will stop here.

bapu is on the other side so refused hafta to the who cannot be named
hence he faces moojik

Ya as I said it is a popular story. But the way the media is going ruthlessly after him, I find it being too little a reason. Surely there are bigger stakes.

[satya]

Atrijee

Your post on losing excessive fat make sense . For SanatanDharam to re-establish its roots firmly is to shed dhongis-pakhandis-ityadis on a massive scale & that's where IMs comes in picture . As one dilli billi puts it , IMs are the scavangers & excessive fat incoudes animals & humans .

[gakakkad]

w.r.t asaram ,he is no saint .he is in fact as bad a scum as one can possibly be. murder,rape,extortion , name it and he's done it.only reason he survives is because of a massive following amongst the urban ,semi urban lower middle class. one of the reason even Modi has not succeeded in halaaling him.not that he did not try. i don't think brfites should defend the scum. and he is as anti modi as congi's.
.

[gakakkad]

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/guja ... 15836.html

In his public address, Asaram warned Chief Minister Narendra Modi on Monday saying that "if you will try to suppress us more, then we will throw you out".

[member_27444]

Sanku ji

dont worry

where conformity is the norm creative (people like you) are condemned

[kapilrdave]

We are not defending AB here. We are just discussing the reasons behind media going after him. Surely media doesn't care what type of saint he is. They are going by their agenda and we are trying to figure out the same.

[vishvak]

Bringing godmen in picture when INC is on gaddi can mean what exactly- especially when elections are in few months time? Media can manage blame game as usual - to confuse and so that no one can say a word out of guilt complex?

In Kashmir mob of muslims stoned pundit homes - where is guilt complex at any level?

Why must Hindus have any guilt complex at any level, especially at level of godmen when realization is at individual level.

[johneeG]

The recent death of a so-called rationalist seems like a false flag op to me designed to implicate/berate hindutva just like pub attack in Blore in the past.

As for Modi not going to UP/Bihar, I think he will go there in the final lap. Before that, there are others working on the ground. For ex, VHP is planning some rally on Ram Mandhir in UP.

I agree with SwamyG that the final lap will turn into Hindutva vs 'secularism' in UP/Bihar. Both sides(lotus and kongis) seem to be heading towards that possibility. Ishrath case is also part of that larger picture.

Basically, this time(unlike before), the people are faced with two stark and clear choices:
a) islamo-christism under the veneer of p'secularism' && corruption, nepotism, inefficiency, misrule, foreign attacks on deshi interests within and without the border...etc.
b) native culture under the tag of hindutva && better governance.

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Athri saar,
I also think that next decade is very crucial, but I think if the next decade is lost then there is a possibility of a long(100-200 yrs) of impoverishment and slavery waiting for the desh. And after that, it is back to the same loop.
So, to avoid such a thing, now is the crucial time. It is like the situation where the Marathas are rising, mughals are weak and ceding space, and the phoreners are looking at exploiting the desh.

Or, it is same as, the fag end of sultanate and increasingly brazen attacks from mughals from the north-west.

This is the time for the change of a rule. If indics lose now, they may have to wait again for a long time. So, I hope and pray that such a thing does not happen.

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SwamyG,
kirket in desh is a very big business. One who controls it has lots of liquid cash on hands, IMHO. And in a election year, that becomes important. Recently, there was some 'exposes' where Shree was caught fixing. I think there are several complicated moves behind it. The first move was by the dilli pandus to distract the public attention from coal scam. The second move was by Power lobby to replace jain and get control over the board. kongis(shukla) and lotus(AJ) came together to thwart this move. Neither kongis nor lotus want Power to have such money at his disposal in election year. So, vangal was activated for that purpose.

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MatrimC,
How can anybody be sure of the percentage of people in AP who are for or against division or unity? There is no survey. And no survey is reliable either. Short of plebiscite, there is no way of knowing the percentages. Rest all is maya and opinions.

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Murugan,
temple's wealth is God's(or Goddess') wealth. No one has the right to spend it on any purpose other than related to Dharma-karya.
If people/govt want to spend on any activity, let them collect for that purpose. Already the Govt collects taxes on people directly and indirectly. All that tax money is looted in scams. Then, they want to loot the money that people have donated for other purposes also?

The first thing is to take away the Temples from the control of the Govt. The 'secular' Govt has no business managing temples or taking the money from the temples.
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Sanku saar,
if you are indeed correct about Advani, then you will be proved right in time. So, don't worry. Then, you can remind everyone of how foolish they were. But, right now, it does not look like you are right.

My friendly advice is that take a break from this thread. I personally do the same(I personally did not visit this thread for some time). Sometimes, the time is such that people will not heed your opinion. In such times, it is better to withdraw and offer it another time.

[Vayutuvan]

JhoneeG
Exactly why swamyG's claim is a bold one and I posted the opposing extremal unsupportable claim. BJP karyakartas and RSS are on the ground in AP. If what swamy says is true then why did they support T in LS?

[Sushupti]

CONgi media handlers perfected the timing of Bapu hitjob, immediately after Dabholkar murder. Already Maha CM has compared this with Gandhi killing. pseudointellectuals are itching to lampoon Hinduism.

So, get ready for Burkha, Bunty-Bublee & assorted media scums spinning this as Hindu Godman from Modi's Gujarat.

they also are in the process of passing anti-superstition law which will make most of the Hindu rituals and practices illegal..

Here is the draft of the proposed law which was kept hanging for 20 years..

http://www.antisuperstition.org/index.p ... &Itemid=80

After a long and gruelling campaign by ANS for the past eight years to enact a Law against Superstition which harm the citizens, the Maharashtra State Government under the leadership of the new Chief Minister Hon. Sushilkumar Shinde has passed in their Cabinet meeting such a law and sent it to the Central Government for their approval. The antecedents and the efforts that were put into by reformists to achieve such bold act are quite praiseworthy, though we have to go a long way to achieve the desired results. This will be the first law of its kind in India and may be in the world.

As the population of modern human increased on our planet, and they began to live in larger groups in tribes, to prevent dispute and aggressive behavior between members of the group or tribe, certain rules and regulations became necessary so that the member of the group could lead a relatively peaceful life. As human beings civilized more acceptable rules and regulations became necessary. As the human species civilizes into a more advanced and noble society, these rules and regulations or laws, which have regulated life of human societies, are modified when ever necessary from time to time. This evolution is still on. In our part of the world a large segment of the present society requires appropriate laws to protect them from unscrupulous members of society, which use misinformation and misguidance to cheat and harm them. To be more precise, at this moment of time in this part of the world superstitions exist in a very large extent in the majority of uneducated and educated strata of society. It is also a fact that their exist large number of people whose main means of livelihood is to misuse these superstitious beliefs and fill their own coffers. If societies have to be more civilized this situation has to be changed. This could be changed on the one hand by educating the people and on the other by preventing unscrupulous elements in society from taking advantage of the ignorance of people. Hence it is very necessary to enact a law to protect the people from such unscrupulous members of society.

Need for the Law: Questions are always posed as to whether society changes simply by enactment of rules and laws? The ineffectiveness of laws for prohibition of dowry and prohibition of alcohol consumption are cited to prove that society dose not change. But this is not the full truth. Even if we accept, that enactments of laws alone, does not compel the society to change, historical evidence in the cases of prohibition of practice of Sati, and other such uncivilized practices, proves that enactment of laws has helped society to give up such evil, uncivilized practices. Moreover, if there is an active social agitation going on in the society, against some undesirable belief systems and if a large section of society is actively participating in eradicating harmful superstitious beliefs, and then the enactment of such a law will certainly accelerate this process. Moreover, people, social reformers and well-wishers desire that in the interest of the community, their representatives should ratify such an act as early as possible.

Draft Bill: The novelty of this draft law is that it does not get entrapped in the argument of defining faith and blind faith. Hence at this point of time, what is to be considered as blind faith is given in a separate schedule. This list can be periodically updated. Hence the impediment for the enactment of this law has been overcome. The list is quite really exhaustive and includes most common superstitions prevailing in Maharashtra. The list includes

• to perform Karni, Bhanamati,
  to perform magical rites in the name of supernatural power,
  to offer ash, talisman, charms etc. for the purpose of exorcism and to drive out evil spirits or ghosts,
  to claim possession of supernatural powers and to advertise this claim,
  to defame, disgrace the names of erstwhile Saints/ Gods, by claiming to be there reincarnation and thus cheating the gullible and God-fearing simple folks.
  to claim to be possessed by divine power or evil power and then perform miracles in the name of such powers.
  to punish and to beat mentally ill patients in the belief that they are possessed by evil spirits.
  to perform Aghori rites.
  to perform so called black magic and spread fear in society.
  to perform "Gopal Santan Vidhi" to beget a male offspring.
  to oppose scientific medical treatment and to coerce to adopt Aghori treatment.
  to sell or deal in so-called magic stones, talisman, bracelets, charms.
  to become possessed by supernatural powers and then pretend to give answers to any questions in this mental state.
  to sacrifice innocent animals for the appeasement of gods or spirits.
  to dispense magical remedies for curing rabies and snake bites.
  to dispense medical remedies with claims of assured fertility.

It was discussed at Rajiv Malhotra's Yahoo group around an year back.

Dharma and Karmakaand (ritualistic Worship) :: Anti Faith Law

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RajivMalh ... ssage/3658

[kapilrdave]

In Kashmir mob of muslims stoned pundit homes - where is guilt complex at any level?

Why must Hindus have any guilt complex at any level, especially at level of godmen when realization is at individual level.

+1

Asaram may or may not be a the practitioner of the right side of tantrik vidya. But he does tell only good things to his Bhaktas and they believe in him. Whereas we all know what the professors of other religion tell to their followers.

PS: Had enough of personal abusing culture to some of the members on this thread so expressed my rent on the forum feedback thread.

[archan]

OK... this is testing patience stuff.
How about this:

1) everyone who has problem with Sanku's posts, please put him on your foe list. You won't see any of his posts any more.

2) Any more posts about Sanku or targeting any other member in that tone: boom, warning and expedited ban.

3) People like Amyrao who are living on borrowed time, better watch out especially.

The more one tries to be nice, the more people force this.

[Sushupti]

Make sure you don't miss it.

Hawala Logic


The only occasion in the past 30 years when this trend was reversed in South Asia was in the months preceding the 2004 Indian General elections when the BJP-led NDA was in power. The rupee appreciated against the dollar because:

(i) India was shining and the sentiment was sky-high

(ii) The BJP had less black money stashed abroad compared to the Congress and therefore wanted the Congress to lose heavily on the exchange rate

(iii) The BJP was confident of winning the 2004 election and didn’t bother to bring back its black money stashed abroad

(iv) Mr LK Advani was so sure of becoming the Prime Minister that he forbade any wasteful election expenditure

http://www.newslaundry.com/2013/08/hawala-logic/

[member_20317]

Kapilrdave ji, supporting/criticizing a person and supporting/criticizing a person's ideas, are two different things.

And a public figure has a duty to explain his position. Asaram Bapu ji has been criticised before here and for wrong reason. But then new reasons appear on the horizon. We have to take every allegation into account. This new FIR is still to be properly processed by the officials. At this moment making up the mind any which way is dangerous. Apparently some of the earlier allegations have not been proved. Also on the net it seems there are a few sites that are specifically targeting Asaram Bapu ji.

The situation is more complex then is made out to be. So let it cool a bit. Also do keep in mind that the son should get assessed on his own merits.

[archan]

So far there is no indication of Asaram case being related to elections, NM, dynasty. Please keep it away from this thread.

[Supratik]

Why are you underestimating it? Any data?

[/quote]


The total gold mined worldwide is less than 200,000 tonnes. How can Indians have 30000+ tonnes of gold. You do the math.

[Sushupti]

How much dumb one can get?

BJP against screening of 'Madras Cafe' in Mumbai

http://m.timesofindia.com/city/mumbai/B ... 959158.cms

[ashashi]

Sanku ji

dont worry

where conformity is the norm creative (people like you) are condemned

Sanku's views are not an issue. He expressed them several times. Unfortunately for him, people havent stopped posting the same old crap (from his perspective) which is irritating him, so he started going after the posters with "Dammit, how many times should I tell you?" attitude. That is the problem.

[SaiK]

^I think that is what archan is also saying.. how many times should be told to ignore a persona if you don't like. first of all, personal hatred is worst form of communication.. you don't belong here or fit in the br community (imho).. there would be no second thought about banning them - a guaranteed QoS from BRreaper or any community.

[rajsunder]

CONgi media handlers perfected the timing of Bapu hitjob, immediately after Dabholkar murder. Already Maha CM has compared this with Gandhi killing. pseudointellectuals are itching to lampoon Hinduism.

So, get ready for Burkha, Bunty-Bublee & assorted media scums spinning this as Hindu Godman from Modi's Gujarat.

they also are in the process of passing anti-superstition law which will make most of the Hindu rituals and practices illegal..

Here is the draft of the proposed law which was kept hanging for 20 years..

http://www.antisuperstition.org/index.p ... &Itemid=80

to sacrifice innocent animals for the appeasement of gods or spirits.
...................[/list]

would these pseudo intellectuals also include sacrifice given on bakrid in to the list or is there some thing in small font underneath where in it is meant only for hindus.

[Atri]

would these pseudo intellectuals also include sacrifice given on bakrid in to the list or is there some thing in small font underneath where in it is meant only for hindus.

This law applies to gods, not the God. There is no god but God !!! and you shall not take his name in vain...

believing in punarjanma is crime. Because everyone has had purvajanmas.

It is an ordinance which can be easily defeated in court.

[Nandu]

The total gold mined worldwide is less than 200,000 tonnes. How can Indians have 30000+ tonnes of gold. You do the math.

About 20% of all the gold in the world?

I don't think that is an implausible number. Half the world's gold is in jewelry, and you know how Indians love gold jewelry. There are also all kinds of other private holdings, such as temple treasuries. If a complete accounting is done, the gold recently uncovered at the Padmanabhaswamy temple in Trivandrum would not appear to be excessively large compared to other big temples, IMHO.

[Sushupti]

Chouhan sends Modi feelers

Madhya Pradesh chief minister Shivraj Singh Chouhan wants to mend fences with Gujarat counterpart Narendra Modi and is keen to invite him to address a grand gathering in Bhopal on September 25 when Chouhan’s 50-day Jan Ashirwad Yatra concludes.

But Modi is lukewarm to the idea and has cited prior commitments, sources said.

Chouhan has, however, turned to the BJP president to prevail upon Modi and rework his itinerary. Rajnath Singh has promised to help, the sources said.

Seeking a third term in office in the November Assembly elections, Chouhan is keen to line up the top BJP leadership — Rajnath, L.K. Advani, Sushma Swaraj, Arun Jaitley and Modi — in Bhopal on September 25 to show off his clout.

Relations between Chouhan and Modi came under strain after the Gujarat chief minister’s appointment as the BJP’s campaign committee chief for the 2014 Lok Sabha polls. While Chouhan endorsed the party decision in Goa, a section of the BJP believes he fancies himself as a challenger to Modi.

On July 22, when Chouhan kicked off his Jan Ashirwad Yatra, Modi’s photograph was missing from all banners and posters.

A month into the yatra, Modi’s posters have started showing up in some towns, including Neemuch where Chouhan addressed seven public meetings yesterday. Posters bearing Modi’s photograph and the slogan “Yes, we can” that he used in Hyderabad have been spotted on the route of the yatra.

But Madhya Pradesh BJP leaders insist these have been put up by individuals and are not part of Chouhan’s revised strategy.

Soon after the Uttarakhand disaster, when Modi had offered to rebuild the Kedarnath temple, Chouhan had tweeted that no one should indulge in politics at such a time and that everyone should get together to rebuild the hill state.

On August 9, Chouhan wore a Muslim prayer cap for Id and was at Bhopal Idgah to greet worshippers. As he bowed, hugged and greeted the clergy and waved at enthusiastic namazis (those who had offered special Id prayers), actor Raza Murad commented: “Other chief ministers need to learn from the Madhya Pradesh chief minister that wearing a cap does not affect one’s religion.”

Standing next to Murad, Chouhan smiled sheepishly as the actor, a known Samajwadi Party sympathiser, directly named Modi. “It is time that Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi learns some things from Chouhan and does not show his aversion to skull caps,” Murad said.

The Gujarat chief minister had refused to wear a skull cap when he was offered one during his three-day Sadbhavana fast in Ahmedabad in 2011.

In the BJP circles in Bhopal, there is talk that the top RSS-BJP leadership has nudged Chouhan to present a united face as the general elections inch closer and the BJP banks on Modi to increase its Lok Sabha tally. A state minister seen as close to Modi said the “feedback from the ground” had forced the rethink.

“Throughout his Jan Ashirwad Yatra, Chouhan was asked about Modi. BJP workers seem eager to see him in Madhya Pradesh and want Modi to be officially declared the prime ministerial nominee,” the minister said. “Perhaps Chouhan has realised that Modi’s presence in the state will help him fetch some extra votes in the November Assembly polls too.”

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130822/j ... hVfIKyVuYQ

[Hari Seldon]

Folks,

Co-hosted a BRF mini-manthan y'day. Was an awesome experience. This is the third BR meet I've attended and am unsurprised at how everytime BRFites manage to surprise. Was great to meet the real people behind some of the handles I have come to know so well. We're forming an e-mail group to carry forward our political discussions (too political perhaps for an open forum...) and are resolved to meeting up again whenever the massa-based folks revisit matrubhumi. Most folks who attended visit this dhaga, hence posting here.

More generally, am now a big fan of smaller meets (if big ones don't work out). Makes the feeling of community, of shared goals and enterprise that much stronger. We toasted BRF bigtime over drinks, with good reason - it brought together such a diverse yet purposeful group.

Thanks all to those who attended. Looking fwd to meeting up again. Jai hind and jai ho.

[krisna]

just a ramble from me--

all political leaders including SSC wore skull caps and did iftar parties. I have never seen a muslim leader throw any official party to Hindus on the ocassion of say some festival like Ganesh Chaturthi or Deepavali etc wear tilak for the time in the party etc.
Not even for christmas etc and vice versa by christians.


why this one way affair towards muslims.

so far I have not seen NaMo donning skull caps and attending iftar parties.
Hope he does not do.

[Nandu]

krisna, when it comes to Kerala, I know that Christians enthusiastically take part in Onam celebrations and Hindus the same for Christmas.

[krisna]

krisna, when it comes to Kerala, I know that Christians enthusiastically take part in Onam celebrations and Hindus the same for Christmas.

Thanks Nandu,
My quote

Not even for christmas etc and vice versa by christians.

why this one way affair towards muslims

Have not heard about muslims doing it for fellow birathers of the book also.

[SwamyG]

JhoneeG
Exactly why swamyG's claim is a bold one and I posted the opposing extremal unsupportable claim. BJP karyakartas and RSS are on the ground in AP. If what swamy says is true then why did they support T in LS?

Not a bold claim. I was making a point that in AP, the bifurcation topic gains more attention than anything else. As far as what people want, the current tamasha is a INC ploy to win election. They utilized the existing takleefs.

SwamyG,
kirket in desh is a very big business. One who controls it has lots of liquid cash on hands, IMHO. And in a election year, that becomes important. Recently, there was some 'exposes' where Shree was caught fixing. I think there are several complicated moves behind it. The first move was by the dilli pandus to distract the public attention from coal scam. The second move was by Power lobby to replace jain and get control over the board. kongis(shukla) and lotus(AJ) came together to thwart this move. Neither kongis nor lotus want Power to have such money at his disposal in election year. So, vangal was activated for that purpose.

So Arun decides to get associated with a tainted entity. Wow. Great logic on who ever designed it.