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Sushupti wrote:
Narayana Rao wrote:Modi needs to be careful about what he says. Today Rajdeep was vomiting on the "mistakes" made by Modi while making some reference to History. Created story. But being careful is always goodmafia h as as entire media and other gangs on their pay.

Recovery in Karnataka and destroying mafia in MH is very much needed. While MH is ok, Karnataka as INC Govt there doing Secular things. retaining that state MP seats is a must.
But he was countered and shown his place by Mrs Lekhi. She called him Goebbels and asked the question why educated people like Sardesai and Tharoor act like servant of an illiterate dynasty.
#NaMoMisquotingIndustry ;-)
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Note - similar article came in 2009 as well. One especially IB having a farewell party but the UPA returned back impressively. So no complacency.

Has the UPA already given up? - Ruling party leaders acknowledge that the going may be tough in the general elections, given the government’s handling of corruption and the economy.
November 11, 2013:

Has the UPA government conceded defeat a good five months before the 2014 General Elections? And accepted that the BJP’s prime ministerial candidate, Narendra Modi, is giving it sleepless nights?

It would seem so if you take the recent statements made in quick succession by two of its ministers, both from the Congress. Last week Jairam Ramesh, Minister for Rural Development, gave a pretty good hint of the defeatist mood within the Congress echelons in his interview to Reuters.

The clear message was that all would not be over for the much younger Rahul Gandhi if the Congress emerged the loser in the coming election. But if the BJP failed to make it to power, “if Modi loses 2014, his story is over, his balloon is burst. If (Rahul) Gandhi does not do well in 2014, he is still going to be around”.

In the next breath Ramesh voiced the “frustration” of many senior Congress leaders over the lacklustre leadership of their vice-president and unnamed prime ministerial candidate Rahul Gandhi when he said: “My frustration is that he (Rahul) is too forward-looking. He is talking of structure, systems; he’s talking of building up Congress in the long term whereas we are now faced with fighting an election in the short term.”

PC throws in the towel?

And now we have the much more powerful Finance Minister and senior Congress leader P. Chidambaram admitting that thanks to a mix of factors such as slowdown in economic growth, dysfunction in the executive and a plethora of corruption charges against the government, there was a feeling of “negativity” in the voter’s mind against the UPA.


Interacting with the media on the sidelines of the Think-Fest in Bambolim, Goa, Chidambaram said his government had made certain mistakes. “Now, we realise that if we look in retrospective effect, some policies could have been different”, to lessen the adverse impact on economic slowdown, inflation, corruption charges and the tepid job market. “This potent mix of factors has brought high degree of negativity towards the government,” he said.

While putting up a brave face on the UPA government’s ability to pull out of this crisis soon, Chidambaram was honest enough to admit that if the “negativity” in the voter’s mind could not be reversed, “then we’ll have to accept whatever verdict the people give”. He went as far as to admit the possibility that the UPA may have to pay a price for its failures in the upcoming polls.

Interestingly, while other Congress leaders have been dismissing the “Modi” effect as hype promoted mainly through the social media, Chidambaram tacitly accepted that Modi was indeed a “challenger” to the Congress. “We can’t ignore him. We have to take note of him.” Ramesh, while dubbing the BJP “the world’s greatest experts at hype”, conceded that “certainly Modi is somebody whom we have to contend with. We can’t just airbrush him aside”.

While Chidambaram refused to comment on the leadership provided by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, he did say his “personal opinion” was it was time “to hand over the torch to the younger generation”.

Shaky political wicket

While politically neither Ramesh nor Chidambaram is a heavyweight — Ramesh is a Rajya Sabha MP and Chidambaram barely made it from his Sivaganga constituency in 2009 — both have substantial clout within the UPA government. Ramesh, an alumnus from IIT Bombay and Carnegie Mellon University, has been named the Congress convener of the 2014 Lok Sabha elections, and entrusted with its election strategy. Credited with the party’s pro-poor and pro-people policies, he is tech savvy and one of the Congress thinktanks capable of taking on the high-intensity social media campaign unleashed by Modi and the BJP.

With the DMK in sulk mood and the Tamil Nadu Chief Minister J. Jayalalithaa’s antipathy towards Chidambaram well known, speculation is rife in Tamil Nadu that one of her top priorities will be to ensure his defeat in the next election, and hence the Finance Minister may contest the 2014 Lok Sabha poll from Pudycherry.

But despite Ramesh’s non-existent political base and Chidambaram’s shaky wicket in his home State, both are considered among the brainiest in the Congress ranks. Not only their body language, but also the actual utterances in media interactions, have this tinge of defeatism and negativity regarding the Congress’s prospects in 2014. The adrenalin this will inject into Modi’s campaign and the BJP rank and file will be tremendous.

Call it pragmatism, reading the writing on the wall or defeatism, for them to say so is hugely significant. Ramesh, of course, qualified his comments in the Reuters interview by saying that while the Modi hype was confined to the social media, he was picking up opposite signals in remote parts of India.

The intelligentsia’s take

While all this is great news for Modi and his BJP, what must be worrying both would be the gentle, and yet firm, voices of people like writer and historian Rajmohan Gandhi, who said in a recent interview that Sardar Patel, whose legacy Modi is claiming so righteously and vigorously, would certainly not have endorsed him as successor.

This grandson of Mahatma Gandhi and biographer of the country’s first home minister, said at the time of the Gujarat 2002 riots, Patel wouldn’t have felt Modi had fulfilled his ‘rajdharma’, a word the Prime Minister of the day, A.B.Vajpayee had used then to censure Modi. “I think it is quite obvious that he (Patel) would have been very disappointed, very pained and saddened not only as an Indian statesman but also as coming from Gujarat, that this should not have happened in Gujarat and the government of the time was not able to prevent it,” said Gandhi.

In another television discussion on Sunday where Gandhi’s recent book on Punjab was being discussed against the backdrop of Indians no longer being interested in issues such as communal tension or secularism, wanting only development and economic growth that Modi is pushing so earnestly, Gandhi said that the attempt to “paper over” the underlying communal tensions in society, thinking that “development would unite everybody” was a dangerous premise.

And then he went ahead to say he was optimistic about the future because “the people of India, and I would say the people of Pakistan, are on the whole wonderful people. They may have prejudices but they don’t want to fight and hate and kill. And they keep their prejudices under control…. Pakistanis are not all horrible people and Pakistanis must not think that Indians and Hindus are all horrible people. They are not.”

Today, it does require courage to say that Pakistanis are not all horrible people.
What kind of bakwaas is this Rajmohan Gandhi. Aaak thuuu.
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At least sushma ben ain't squeamish when it comes to taking on MMS (dynasty's another matter)...

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is he doing the kibla kaba?
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In Nehru-Gandhi bastion, Modi murmurs

Today, Garg — like many others in the Gandhi fief — said he yearned for a “Narendra Modi-like” leader.

“He connects with people, with businessmen, youngsters, housewives, the poor because he speaks the language of hope without using abstruse phrases like escape velocity (that Rahul did at a meeting of Dalits in New Delhi).

“There’s no electricity here, for which the Gandhis blame the Uttar Pradesh government. But if the Gandhis are the most powerful persons in India, can’t they ask the local government to rectify the situation?” he asked.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1131112/j ... 557125.jsp
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economictimes. indiatimes. com/opinion/comments-analysis/narendra-modi-the-new-aurangzeb/articleshow/25608381.cms

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By: Harbans Mukhia

Narendra Modi: The new Aurangzeb

Who could imagine that Aurangzeb and Narendra Modi would have some things in common? But life surprises.

To begin with, both are Gujaratis at least by birth. Aurangzeb was born in the town of Dahod, 200 km from Ahmedabad. Modi's birthplace is Vadnagar, 100-odd km away. Aurangzeb loved the town of his birth and three years before his death, instructed his son, the governor of Gujarat, to take special care of it.

Whether Modi loves Vadnagar or not, he does seem to have bestowed very special attention on it as Gujarat's chief minister.

Aurangzeb was Shah Jahan's third of four sons and was devoted to studying Islam and its exclusive history; his brother Dara Shikoh also studied religions, without pitting Islam against others, especially Hinduism.

Aurangzeb had wide administrative and military experience as governor of the Deccan and Gujarat. He cultivated the image of a saint given to pious deeds rather than savouring material comforts, who earned his living by copying the Quran and stitching caps. Underneath this pretence, however, lay his ambition of ascending the throne when the call came. But he always coolly calculated the right moment to strike and when it came, anyone and everything that stood in his way would be struck down mercilessly. That some of them had been his supporters and well wishers mattered little.

With his sight fixed on the Peacock Throne, Aurangzeb knew that Dara was the chief obstacle. So, he sought to isolate him by befriending his two other brothers by offering them big prizes. Once Dara had been defeated, Aurangzeb turned on the others.

European travellers Bernier and Manucci tell us Aurangzeb invited the youngest, Murad, to his tent, took an oath on the holy Quran that he had no interest in the throne, plied him with unlimited liquor until he lost his moorings, put him in chains and sent to the Gwalior fort.

Familiar Stepping Stones

After a while, Murad was executed following the pretence of a judicial process. The other brother, Shuja, was virtually driven to modern Myanmar and was killed by locals, probably at Aurangzeb's behest. Dara had been killed brutally and publicly.

Shah Jahan was jailed in a small room in Agra Fort where he spent his last eight miserable years. Aurangzeb did, however, display his human side once by not doing away with the mullahwho refused to invoke Islamic sanction for all his acts.

The path Modi has traversed in his ambition to occupy the prime minister's chair has marks of the same cool calculation at each step and the same ruthlessness towards anyone standing in the way.

Modi got around Atal Bihari Vajpayee's admonition of not observing rajdharma during the Gujarat riots of 2002, by getting Lal Krishna Advani's support. Now Advani is isolated in his own party. He may have to flatter Modi to retain his Gandhinagar Lok Sabha seat.

Keshubhai Patel was also Modi's patron once; one gets to hear little of him any more. Political, rather than physical, elimination is the democratic method of dealing with friends turned adversaries.

Aurangzeb had punished a few who had turned to him opportunistically; Modi is happy to see several of his senior Gujarat officers jailed for carrying out fake encounters. Modi's administrative response to the Gujarat riots has always raised several questions about his politics. Any remorse? No, strong men have no remorse.

Aurangzeb was hard-core Muslim at heart, believing in the supremacy of his religion, revelling in promoting communal animosity. He was willing to make small concessions to Hindus. He demolished the Kashi and Mathura temples and erected mosques on their foundations. He also gave land and monetary grants to temples, including Varanasi's Viswanath, and Hindu monasteries.

The Placebo Effect

As his conflict with Shivaji grew more fierce, he resorted to granting more and more mansabs (military ranks, official posts) to rival Maratha groups. Indeed, the number of Hindu mansabdars under Aurangzeb was the largest.

Modi has left no one in doubt where his heart lies: in hard-core Hindutva, imbibed well from the RSS. Yet, he would bend even the RSS to cater to his ambition. Realising that India was bigger and more complex than Gujarat and ignoring Muslims would harm rather than help him, Modi's camp has suddenly decided to subsidise the distribution of skull caps and burqasamong such Muslim men and women as are willing to be seen in his rallies.

Democracy is open to variations. Even his language at the rallies has taken a turn, placing poverty rather than Muslims as the chief enemy. Cool calculations and ruthlessness of purpose define Modi as much as they did Aurangzeb.

The writer is a former professor of history, Jawaharlal Nehru University
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niran: yes, it looks like moi suspicion that KB (= Kiran Bedi) is compromised too is getting confirmed

RajeshA : I think her heart is into it. Her tweets show her obvious inclination towards BJP, however it seems foreign and Indian backers of Anna Hazare's IAC movement have put pressure on people like Anna Hazare, VK Singh and Kiran Bedi to not get involved in politics otherwise they will use media to finish them off. These backers have obviously not succeeded in pushing AH, VKS, KB to support AAP and Arvind Kejriwal but at the same time they are not being allowed to get involved in politics of another party either. Just my personal impression.

NikhilB: That could be true. However I have different impression. I think these foreign/Congi/ NIA backers for IAC movement WANT people like AH and KB to join politics but to come up with different political party as AK did. Just doing fasting, movement, and slamming government does not help Congress. What really helps them is when someone like AK come up with Vote Catau party like AAP, because that's when BJP votes start getting split. The moment AH and KB realized the true colors of AK and his true purpose, they got away from him immediately. From her tweets, KB is clearly pro BJP but she is not willing to join active campaign, because, I think, she does not want to be entangled with D4 politics and especially with factionalism like Vijay Goel v/s Harsh vardhan kind of politics. I think she is afraid of being labelled as Harshvardhan group if she does join active campaign.
So you folks do realize that MNC-paid-mediamen are powerful enough to make Kiran Bedi, Anna etc worry and change or tone down their political lines. Well, I have been saying SAME thing in context of NaMo as well. That MNC-owners have become too powerful , and their paid-media is now strong enough to make NaMo worry and change and tone down his political lines as well. In addition to paid-mediamen, MNC-owners also have tools like paid-Supreme-judges, paid-CBI-director and paid-apex-IAS with them.

Now many important questions arise from this

1. The MNC-owners didnt create this paid-media setup in one day. It took them 22 years --- starting from 1991 when MNC-agents PVNR/MMS became PM/FinMin . So in those 22 years, why didnt/couldnt BJP\RSS-apex create their own media which can be more powerful than MNC-paid media? OR better , in those 22 years, why didnt BJP\RSS-apex create a setup where every paid-mediamen would simply fail? The nationalists citizens have given crores of hours every year to BJP\RSS-apex and thousands of crores of rupees via donations as well as via gains that come from political power. Despite this man-hours and funds, the BJP\RSS-apex could NOT or deliberately did NOT create a setup where all paid-mediamen would fail. IOW, IMO it is time nationalists start looking for alternative beyond BJP\RSS-leaders. Otherwise, even in next 20 years, we will all still be at the mercy of paid-mediamen only.

2. Why did BJP, Sushma Swaraj etc allowed FDI in media when she was Information Minister? Couldnt she foresee that allowing FDI in media will further strengthen the hold of MNC-owners? And why did Arun Shourie support and still supports FDI in paid-media business? Or were they under "influence" of MNC-owners?

3. If leaders are afraid of paid-mediamen, then obviously judges, IAS, IPS too will be scared of paid-mediamen. IOW, the power of MNC-owners via paid-media is now too deep.

When NaMo becomes PM in may-2014 , MNC-owners' task will be easy. All BJP-leaders' image would have been erased and there would be ONLY one leader NaMo. So they have to now threaten only one person with media-blackmail. And by threatening just one person, MNC-owners can get all decisions taken which will enable MNC-owners and Missionaries to make deep inroads.

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BJP leader Minaxi Lekhi writes in her blog

http://blogs.economictimes.indiatimes.c ... ress-party

AAP just another front of the Congress party

Be it Tamil Nadu, Punjab, Kashmir or the entire North East including Assam, creating and nurturing social groups with hate for the majority community has been Congress' strategy for long. The ideology of " hate for nationalist forces like BJP" also brings in a diverse bunch of congress-dummies such as BSP, SP, DMK, MIM, UDF, IUML and many such parties.

The most unfortunate aspect of such a hate coalition is the hiring of Leftists to provide intellectual, ideological, communication and academic fire power needed to eliminate a nationalist party like BJP from the Indian political landscape. Their support system extends several foreign powers wanting to destroy the very idea of Indian nationalism. A Congress sponsored Stalin style leftist media and academic architecture is designed to unleash a vicious hate propaganda against BJP or any nationalist voice. Therefore, one sees such a hostile media manned by propagandists posing as self-styled journalists.

The emergence of Aam Aadmi Party must be looked from the above perspective. Its functioning and control is pretty much Congress in style and substance. Appeasement of anti-BJP forces, propaganda support from Congress sponsored self-styled journalists, anchors and media houses, and - most importantly - use of dirty foreign money defines AAP as a catalyst for the making of an urban Naxalbari in Indian metros.

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The AAP boss Arvind Kejriwal recently met Tauqeer Raza Khan, the controversial cleric who is charged with rioting cases. Arvind's support to such hardline elements as Khan suggests a Congress style of communal politics. AAP Cadres are mostly Student Federation of India (SFI) activists whose ideological affinity with Maoists is quite obvious. Intelligence experts must analyse commonalities between AAP and Naxals in Bengal's Naxalbari village way back in the sixties. Shocking similarities between both movements would emerge. Grossly anti-national in character, such forces land up becoming 'supari killers' for the Congress run hate coalition. In the days to come AAP would in fact become another dark ugly and violent face of congress party.

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AAP's functioning for the Nehru Family is too very evident in Robert Vadra's case. The Secretary of Delhi Pradesh Congress Committee Mr Sunit Madhur runs Cicero Associates which looks after Aam Aadmi Party's propaganda. AAP has hired them for political consultancy as well. Even the AAP website is being designed and funded by Cicero Associates which has Sunit Mathur's control.


BTW, pls note that Economic Times is NOT writing all this in the newspaper. Minaxi madame is writing in her blog, which is on website of Economic Times.

So Minaxi Lekhi could see all this in AAP now. But what took her so so so long? We have have been saying all this since apr-2011 that IAC = AK is foreign funded outfit and their demand of "Janlokpal with no Right to Recall Janlokpal" is meant only to strengthen MNC-owners' stronghold over India. Where was she hiding back then? Was Minaxi madame hoping that AK = IAC will never form AAP and so IAC's anshan will benefit only BJP? IOW, when IAC was working against Indian interests, but had not formed a political party to cut BJP votes, Minaxi madame chose to keep silence on IAC's malafide actions. And when AK etc formed AAP to cut BJP votes, all of a sudden she goes ballistic. IOW, her loyalties are "BJP first, India second". Quite an interesting case of nationalist.

And Minaxi madame can see all this and write all this about AAP. But she cant see corruption in Supreme judges and she also cant see nepotism in Supreme judges, even though she has worked in supreme court for over 20 years now. And she chose to never write about corruption\nepotism in Supreme judges? And she never ever proposed any law-draft to reduce it even when BJP was in power for 6 long years?

All in all, BJP-leaders' heartburn is only that AAP will cut BJP votes. They least bother whether AAP is anti-India or not. If so, Supreme judges are 1000 times bigger anti-India forces than AAP. Why does Minaxi , Jetley etc keep silence on SCj's misdeeds?

My point is --- if anyone does 1000 times more damage to India, but no damage to BJP, Minaxi madame looks aside and keeps silence. eg SCjs do tons of damage to India, but little to BJP and so Minaxi madame looks aside. But when someone comes to cut BJP votes, she goes ballastic. Her talk about national interest is all baloney. She herself doesnt give a damn about national interest. I would request nationalists to stay away from such pseudo-nationalist-leaders.
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Subramanian Swamy ‏@Swamy39 11m
PTs look into http://Avaaz.org which gave $4 lakh dollars to Aaptards outfits to launch civil strife. The foundation did for Arabs too

Check avaaz.org
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http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/433593/is- ... itics.html

Watch Subramanyam Swami starting from 23:54.
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Meenakshi Lekhi asking the question why educated people like Tharoor, Aakar Patel and Sardeasi acting as a servant of an illiterate dynasty.

http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/433598/is- ... eches.html
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People like Rajdeep are getting away with every thing for long and can not stop themself from taking rubbish. Good that SS gave back. Minakshi Lekhi, Ms Sitaraman also doing the same. New found confidence in bjp?

Asking about mafia gangs educaton qualification? oooohhh That on hurts. :D

Modi style is rubbing on everyone.

Attack attack and attack. Never allow mafia to time to think also. Mafia top has no knowledge and little education, capability etc. They are there because of marriage or birth etc and taken over a very powerful organisation with huge brand value.

1. Destroy Brand value - Modi on partition, Patel and other leaders and their contribution etc. All for one family etc is slowly deminishing the Brand value.
2. They are exposed in direct contrast as their individually in capable of anything and achived nothing in their life.
3. Birth is not accepted as sole qualification in todays India. People are fed of this idea for long and no one is going to stand for it.
4. Myth of sacrifies of one family is also being attacked by Modi and others.
5. Advani slowly contribution with his blog some good things on Patel etc ( for a change)

Mafia need to go to Vegas.
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Modi should use the attacks on his "slip-ups" as a means of taking the offensive against the Dynasty and Congress to the next level. Question the Dynasty's knowledge in any sphere whatsoever, question the Congress' understanding of India...Underline that it is a matter of shame for a country of the potential of India to be under the thumb of such a singularly distasteful and roguish family clique.
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KJoishy wrote:
ramana wrote:
After pappu pulled his charade against the ordinance, MMS has met BJP leadership and was assured of their understanding his situation.
MMS is the past. Pappu is the foochur. It makes sense to focus there.
MMS cannot be spared for the crimes that he has made. Also from the campaigning point of view, people will be able to relate themselves easily if the MMS's inefficiencies and exploits of the country's resources for the benefit of dynasty are openly talked. The 2G and Coalgate issues have died down. People must be told that all money went to mafia through MMS only, and that all money need to be brought back and culprits must be jailed. Also these scams and looting should be related to the problem of price rise to show that eventually it is the common man who suffers. These are the issues that congis would want to avoid as talking point at any cost. Perhaps NM is keeping this for the final over. But I don't think he should wait for it for too long.
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Sushupti:
Thanks for the link..

Actually the Aakar Patel guy did not come out as bad as others...

But Rajdeep needs to be quiet. He does not let others speak.
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Chhattisgarh may have larger than life impact on BJP, Congress
This brings us to the second factor: Chhattisgarh is the one state which has already implemented a Food Security Bill and Raman Singh is widely credited for it. He is known as the “chawal wale Baba” to large parts of the electorate. Since the Congress’s big policy plank in 2014 is its own Food Security Bill, Chhattisgarh voters will tell us one of two things: if they vote against Raman Singh, it effectively means the voter is not swayed by freebies like food security – at least beyond a point. On the other hand, if they do vote for Raman Singh, it does not necessarily mean the Food Bill was important to his victory. As Raman Singh has delivered reasonably good governance, voters may not be specifically voting for the Food Bill. For the Congress, thus, win or lose, it will gain no insight. For the BJP, a loss means food security is no great shakes; a win means the good governance planks works. Narendra Modi should take his cue from this.
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ramana wrote:
kapilrdave wrote:I also think that NM has gone softer on MMS and targeting dynasty only. Instead he should expose MMS more and more as a chamcha of dynasty to do ek teer se do shikar.

After pappu pulled his charade against the ordinance, MMS has met BJP leadership and was assured of their understanding his situation.
Hoping and praying that MMS later turns around on these same BJP leaders and screws them and humiliates them in public - they deserve no better.
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SaiK wrote:pooch: what is modi's take on GMO agri products?
I have suggested them to have banning the GMO seeds as an item in their manifesto at http://bjpelectionmanifesto.com/. Please do so if you are also against it.

Here is my wishlist that I posted them on their site.
BT seeds should be banned for all type of crops. Encourage organic farming and greenhouse farming.
There should be a dedicated agency (like income tax dept) against dowry system. This agency would have eyes on every marriage hall, party plots, jewellers, car showrooms, furniture stores etc. Upto 5lakh dowry should be ignored but anything more than that should come under legal scrutiny.
Pass a law to treat Juveniles convicted in case of terrorism as adults. This is because terrorists are using children and teenagers for their activities. Also pass a law that prohibits govt from negotiating with terrorists.
A strict law should be formed to recover all the money from the convicted for corruption. The convicted cannot get out of jail – even after serving full term - until he returns every single paisa to govt back with interest.
No homework nor any projects for children below 5th standard. All learning must happen only in school.
All four wheeler vehicles giving Km/liter less than 15 should be banned for production in India. We see too many SUVs having 3-5 km/liter average wasting so much of fuel unnecessarily while there are vehicles which provide good enough power with great efficiency. Similarly, any two wheeler giving average less than 35 should also be banned for production.
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merlin wrote:
ramana wrote: After pappu pulled his charade against the ordinance, MMS has met BJP leadership and was assured of their understanding his situation.
Hoping and praying that MMS later turns around on these same BJP leaders and screws them and humiliates them in public - they deserve no better.
Absolutely. The usual "wrong sense of morality" applies to these BJP leaders. It is their job to ensure that the system is cleansed of rotten people. When they fail to do it,and when the rot consumes them, they deserve it fully. Why should BJP cut MMS some slack? All MMS has done is consistently undermine India's position:
- Debacle at SeS w/ Terror Shitistan
- Unfair Nuclear deal w/ suited & suave American mass murderers.
- Losing ground literally w/ "bonfire of the Tibetans" Chinese

The BJP would do well to remember that MMS has directed his only recorded angry moment against them.
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In fact the MMS type people who help mafia family sould be first jailed. Mafia family will keep quit as long as they are not touched. Its cham chas will slowly realize that there is no escape for the traitors and family can not protect them. All ways kill the surrounding protection first and then go for the killing main evil. One year of Tax, ED, ACB, CBI, IB investegations on top traitors in Delhi and SP, BSP type state level criminals and then for the family.
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tonights festival on MSM : mayaben kodnani gets 3 month bail on health grounds.
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^^^

Better yet, Modi to drop UP and contest 2014 from Gujarat.
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Who would have thunk Shri.Modi would be accused of this.
In a fresh twist to the ongoing slugfest between itself and BJP, Congress today alleged that in his bid to realise his prime ministerial dreams, Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi had embarked on a "Muslim appeasement" policy.

It has now become a full blown comedy circus.
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So Congis admit that Muslim appeasement is a bad thing? Are they prepared for the repercussions if BJP decides to hit back on this?
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Regarding the picture of Chidambaram in same picture as MUllah Zaeef, some one should tweet the irony of the PC the patron saint of "saffron terror" consorting with real green Taliban terrorists in India!
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PMO releases letter alleging wrongdoing by SC judges
Nov 13, 2013, 03.51AM IST TNN

NEW DELHI: The Prime Minister's Office on Tuesday made public a letter that alleged corruption by several Supreme Court judges, impropriety by their relatives and wrongdoing in the apex court.

The five-page letter written by mediaperson Dr M Furquan in June has a litany of complaints against the SC and was addressed to the President. The letter was made public in response to activist S C Agarwal's query.

The letter was also marked to former SC judge V R Krishna Iyer who according to media reports had written to the President expressing concern at the allegations. The two letters were forwarded by the President's office to the law ministry.

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/PMO-rel ... IIndiaNews
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Ex-CBI chief: Rajiv told me should use arms deal payoffs for party funds

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/excbi ... s/1194313/
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They should ban all these final election year sops If they have to do it, any gov should have done it in the first 4 years.
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In a first, US Republicans support Modi
In a rare show of partisan support close to elections, influential Republican party lawmakers have welcomed Narendra Modi’s anointment as BJP’s candidate for the top job. In recent letters, they also invited Modi to address a gathering of Republican lawmakers and their leaders through satellite link at a Bharat Day event on Capitol Hill on November 19.

And, they assured him, “we are working hard on trying to help to visit the United States”, which refused Modi an official visa in 2005 and cancelled his tourist visa over the 2002 riots.

US politicians are not known to take sides in Indian politics - even at the height of the cold war, Republicans and Democrats felt equally hostile, or friendly.

But Modi may just have changed that. “I want to congratulate you on winning the nomination of the BJP for Prime Minister of India,” wrote Republican member of House of Representatives Cathy McMorris Rodgers.

She mentioned that she had tried to call him on phone “right after your win, but was unable to connect”. Therefore, the letter, which is in now the possession of HT.

Rodgers, chair of the House Republican Conference, met Modi in India in March, traveling with two other Republican lawmakers -- Aaron Schock and Cynthia Lummis.Rodgers called that a “trip of a lifetime” in her letter.
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Using commissions and "dO numbri" paise for party funds had been going for eons. Nothing new.
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BJP workers in 6 LS seats get taste of virtual Sneh Milan

BJP's prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi gave a taste of virtual connectivity to fellow party workers on Saturday evening, when he, for the first time, held the annual Gujarati new year 'meet' via video conference from his residence at Gandhinagar.

Stressing on the reach of the social media, Modi set a target for the BJP workers of getting 50,000 followers per Lok Sabha seat into the social media. Calling 2014 "a challenge", Modi said he was not interested in the 26 polling booth target, but "in winning 90 per cent of the booths".

"Truth is screaming from the rooftops, the people have instilled immense faith in BJP and are looking at the extraordinary atmosphere in our favour, our responsibility has only increased", said Modi at the first of the four Vijay Vishwas Sneh Milan (Get together for Victory) on Saturday, targeted at six Lok Sabha seats.

He sought dedicated workers who would motivate others for the next 200 days on every booth. Modi said, "Lets have one Vijay Vrati (worker pledged to victory) for each booth. For the next 200 days from today, this Vijay Vrati will work round the clock to spread the message."

Earlier, he had addressed workers in Bihar through teleconferencing. On a number of occasions, he had held video talks with Non Resident Indians in the US. But in his 12-year-old tenure, this was the first time that Modi hosted a virtual Sneh Milan for zone-wise party workers.

By Tuesday, Modi will cover all of the 26 Lok Sabha constituencies. For the six Lok Sabha seats covered on Saturday, hundreds of senior workers had gathered in one centre, where arrangements for listening to Modi on an LED screen were made at scheduled venues.
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Congress beyond dynasty
Ramachandra Guha

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 658295.cms
Here is a set of tweets on the above article from POV of Right. Read bottom up #IOI= Idea of India

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sushupti, Once Krishna Menon was out Nehru had no choice but to become a dynast.
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matrimc wrote:Using commissions and "dO numbri" paise for party funds had been going for eons. Nothing new.
Rajiv took it to new level. He had the funds deposited in his personal account. That is where he lost the trust of the Congresswalas.
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'Narendra Modi is a poster boy of India's failure to punish the violent'

The op-ed "The two faces of India" was published on the blog of the popular CNN program "Global Public Square", which is run by eminent Indian American Fareed Zakaria.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/naren ... t/1194348/

Looks like EJs aren't able to swallow the bitter pill of anti-conversion bill passed by Modi even after almost 12 years.
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Whose father was one of the historian who rewrote Indian history (under another greta figure Shri Nehru), all that good happened in India is ad=fter muslim invaded India. Almost 30% of broad minded people saw the love converted, rest small hearted 70% are still holding on.). Of course, whatever good was still to happen, happenned after gaurang prabhus visited us.
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kapilrdave wrote:
SaiK wrote:pooch: what is modi's take on GMO agri products?
I have suggested them to have banning the GMO seeds as an item in their manifesto at http://bjpelectionmanifesto.com/. Please do so if you are also against it.
done.. also gave my suggestions for good governance - IT way - cloud computing - federated model to states and budgeting - monitoring and controls, RE sector reforms, standardized policies to impl in infrastructure, follow certain amrikhan centric approach on governance, ban GMO, go Organics, Fix equal rights under mitakshara laws, remove caste based quota system, etc..
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ramana wrote:Regarding the picture of Chidambaram in same picture as MUllah Zaeef, some one should tweet the irony of the PC the patron saint of "saffron terror" consorting with real green Taliban terrorists in India!

I tweeted this.
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Its ironic that those who coined the myth of "saffron terror" are seen in same picture with true green Taliban officials!!!
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I am more worried about this meeting. I think there is more plan to it than meets the mind. Chidhambram said few days ago Modi cannot be ignore (and it does not mean electrorally). Then he meets the Taliba? Was a supari given?
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