Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

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Attn : johneeG ,
johneeG: On the sms-sending thingy:(You can reply in the appropriate thread)
If the whole idea is 'Mahathma Bhagath Singh', then what is the need for sms? Bhagath Singh didn't need any sms campaign. And moreover, when people send smses they may be lulled into a false sense of satisfaction of doing something. It would same as spinning charka or holding candlelight vigils. Totally useless!
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 6#p1544556
And there is also a need for structuring the elections such that only a person/party that gets the simple majority can win a seat. Otherwise, caste and cash politics will continue which will keep the corrupt in power.
AWMTA :) . Pls see more at http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 6#p1544556
But on the recalling idea. I haven't gone through all the details of your idea. But, it seems to me that instituting some kind of recall is the only way to improve the Indian democracy. Otherwise, the elected politicians are only loyal to themselves, their families, their castes and their parties. The people's problems don't have any consideration. And people have no way of showing that they are unhappy with their elected representatives.
AWMTA :) . Pls see more at http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 8#p1544568
Finally, I do appreciate your stand on Dhevalayas and Go-raksha. Thumbs Up. Keep putting pressure until they deliver. I hope that Modi comes to power(atleast for two terms) and people like you are the main opposition. :D The need is to make the kongi and leftists obsolete(and they are on their way already and hopefully after two terms of Modi, India will be kongi mukth and leftist mukth).
Thanks :) . AWMTA :)

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VikramS : Now only the hard core folks will go. And they keep on leaking news about ISI giving the D-company a contract on Modi using IED, Rocket Launchers and Suicide bombers. That will dissuade a lot more.

subhamoy.das : Too many rallies is natural to thin the crowd. But look what is happening to his counter part's rallies. I would say that he is till far ahead in terms of size of his rallies.
Thats why, rallies should be stopped. And instead, NaMo and all leaders can send DVDs to voters, and then request voters to send necessary orders to MPs via SMS or email or postcards or other means, and also send SMS or postcards or emails to all media channels including Doordarshan to show NaMo DVDs. The cost of sending DVDs plus postcards or SMS will be far far less rallies. It will also save time.
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Its OK. I'm dhoti-shivering just for anti jinx effect...

Dec 8 will clear the confusion. So far EVMs magic hasn't figured much in state level polls but with establishment as despo as it is who knows... fingers crossed for dec-8 onlee...
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Threat of attack on Modi via Shaheen Women bomber, Explosive-laden car and Rocket launcher
There is threat on BJP Prime Ministerial Candidate Modi from a nexus between ISI, Daud and Saudi Arabia Terror Group with the help of India based IM and SIMI. 140 human suicide bomber including Shaheen women have been trained for suicide bombing in India especially on BJP PM Candidate Modi.

The Gujarat Police have provided him an additional security ring — policewomen in plainclothes. “He has always been on the hitlist of terror outfits. We also have inputs that he faces threat from women terrorists. As women attend his rallies and ground functions in large numbers, women constables have been made a part of his security ring,” confirmed a top police official.

According to a report in the Daily Mail, a secret note by the intelligence agencies on Modi's threat perception revealed that as per an input, Dawood Ibrahim took supari during a meeting with senior ISI functionaries was tasked to restart activities in India and also target BJP PM Candidate Narendra Modi
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The IB intelligence note also reveals that Modi faces a risk not just within India but also from other countries. Other than Pakistan's ISI, terror operatives in Saudi Arabia have also hatched a plan to kill Modi. "Islamic fundamentalists based in Saudi Arabia are planning attack Modi," the note says.

According to the report, a terror operative - Shahid alias Bilal - has informed an unidentified associate in Saudi Arabia that a suicide attack would be a better option as against a remote-controlled Improvised Explosive Device (IED) to attack Modi.
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Another revelation made in the note is about the possibility of some Indian security officials helping terror groups to attack Modi. The note states that Lashkar-e-Tayyeba (LeT) operatives have recruited some security officials to allow free access to them.

According to intelligence inputs from central intelligence agencies, banned outfit Student Islamic Students of India (SIMI) is collaborating with other terror outfits and seeking their help to attack Modi, Daily Mail report states.
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Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) has turned to its old confidant Dawood Ibrahim seeking his aid to attack the BJP's prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi, if the central intelligence agencies are to be believed.
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This has been revealed in a secret note by the intelligence agencies on Gujarat CM Modi's threat perception.
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The Gujarat chief minister is also facing threats from various terror outfits. The fresh intelligence gathered by central intelligence agencies reveals that the ISI is taking the underworld don's assistance to target BJP PM Candidate Modi.

The intelligence note prepared on the threat to Modi has also mentioned about the ISI-Dawood nexus.
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BJP/RSS should make a statement that in case of an assassination, dynasty & their sycophants will be lynched in public by Hindus. All agencies & all officials doing the dynasty's bidding shall be tried for treason and hanged till death. They should put this threat out through a second rung leader, deniable but stern enough to be taken seriously.
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Why are international forces joining hands against NaMo and there is radio silence in international media too about threat to elected CM of an Indian state and PM aspirant!

All these never get tired of scheming against each other in other countries like pak. But same forces are joining hands in India!
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I am trying to find where NM said China spends 20% on GDP on education. Any help welcome. Did he mean 20% of annual budget?
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vishvak wrote:Why are international forces joining hands against NaMo and there is radio silence in international media too about threat to elected CM of an Indian state and PM aspirant!

All these never get tired of scheming against each other in other countries like pak. But same forces are joining hands in India!
Modi is a lightning rod for a much deep Pro-National movement encompassing Legislature,Judiciary,Civil and Executive branches in India. A Pro-National government will be a major loss for many people currently making money too easily. However, there are also major power brokers who want him at the helm as he will attract major investment in energy, infra and defense sectors. I agree there is a lot riding on him but I am certain there would be a fallback plan. A good example of Modi phenomenon is J.Assange. Assange is only a public face.
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http://www.newskarnataka.com/news/conte ... combat-BJP

Anant Kumar seems to have had his way.

Added: This seems to be the problem.

http://www.asianage.com/india/bsy-rider ... rn-bjp-095
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I would like to put up a suggestion and hope it will be picked up by Namo's team.

Namo's every speech includes atleast 10 short punch lines. he repeats many of them again and again, possibly with target to embed it into our subconscious mind.
To spread it further, they can use services of volunteers (like tea vendors, shop owners, autowalas,etc) to play it at their premises.
many of these volunteers (especially the autowala) will already have a music system, all they need is namo's speech in required format.

If it's played at any decent-business-doing-teashop, the target audience(including passer by) can be atleast 500-1000.
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harbans wrote:I am trying to find where NM said China spends 20% on GDP on education. Any help welcome. Did he mean 20% of annual budget?
NaMo wrote:In 10 years from 2000, China, which did not have even a single university among the top varsities in the world, now has over 30 whereas India, which had two, now has only one. Why did this happen?

How did China do it? It spent almost 20 per cent of its GDP on education. Our government promised to spend 7 per cent but actually spent just 4 per cent
Narendra Modi's speech at Fergusson College, Pune on June 14, 2013

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The China education issue is the only factual error Modi has made....the rest of the purported errors are all misquotations or are minor slips of the tongue.
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Arjun wrote:The China education issue is the only factual error Modi has made....the rest of the purported errors are all misquotations or are minor slips of the tongue.
Modi's facts may be off the mark but these too only underline his message and passion for development!

The other day an AAP funder was trying to debate with me, how NaMo lies, e.g. when he said that India had the largest rail network in the world even though it is only the fourth largest! :roll:
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Rajesh Ji many thanks. I too was going through the video. @ 32 min. NM started saying 20% of their Budget then added of the GDP. But he clearly meant Annual budget. But yes it was a slip. The points he was making have a very significant import and that is lost by his detractors focusing on the frivolous. Exact words..32:44 m on
Unhone apne budget mein say 20% uh GDP ka 20% unhone uske baad sikha par...humare desh ne 7% ka sapna dekha 4% par atak gaye.
He uses both Budget (which is correct) and GDP. But the figures clearly indicate that he implies Annual budget allocation. Anyone who understands the context will understand his implication which is very significant in itself.
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EC says Kejriwal violated model code of conduct by appealing to Muslim voters on religious grounds to support AAP

http://www.livemint.com/Politics/fUF76a ... riwal.html
The notice follows a complaint filed by Harish Khurana, son of former delhi chief minister Madan Lal Khurana, who objected to pamphlets being distributed by Kejriwal containing appeals to Muslim voters for their backing.

The pamphlet, whose objectionable parts EC has reproduced in its notice, purportedly has AAP saying that, “Delhi’s Muslims should support Aam Aadmi Party in the forthcoming polls. We (AAP) are not seeking votes for power or money but for rooting out corruption from the system and building a corruption-free India where people belonging to all religions can live in peace,” the pamphlet states.

Kejriwal further appeals in the pamphlet that, “Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) is a communal party. Till now the Muslims did not have any alternative, but now they have an honest alternative in the form of AAP. We appeal to the Muslim voters of Delhi to back our endeavour for clean politics and not fall into the trap in which they have been falling for the past 65 years.”

The model code of conduct prohibits any such appeal before an election which invokes religion or caste. Sub paragraph 3 of paragraph 1 of the code provides that, “there shall be no appeal to caste or communal feelings for securing votes...mosques, churches, temples or other places of worship shall not be used as a forum for election propaganda”.
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talk floating in twitter about an alleged rape by a senior tehelka editor
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who? tejpal?
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No names are given. Too much speculation and one tweet indicates Tarun has resigned. Not seen the news yet
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It is indeed the turd..this should clear it Email sent out today by Shoma Chaudhury to all tehelka staffers
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Kangress Dirty tricks dept activities as usual the comments section is more interesting : http://www.firstpost.com/politics/gujar ... 37691.html
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Kalyan Singh on a roll.... whatta solid guy!
He said that this time, both the Samajwadi Party and Bahujan Samaj Party will be wiped out of Uttar Pradesh and the BJP will win 57 out of 80 seats in the state. The Congress may gain 6-7 seats and SP and BSP may get 8-9 seats, but the tally will be overwhelmingly in favour of BJP, riding on the Modi wave, while the RLD will be completely out of the picture with 0 seats. He said that 25 years ago, the BJP had risen from the land of Krishna and this time again, this grand rally will ensure that the BJP comes back in power with more than 270 seats in the parliament.

Criticising the inexperience of Congress vice-president Rahul Gandhi, Kalyan Singh asked "Jo Langot baandhna nahin jaanta, wo kushti kya ladega?" :rotfl:

He said that Modi has only sold tea, while the Congress has sold the entire country.

Kalyan's enthusiasm may indeed pay off, if the party succeeds in arranging the numbers they have been advertising across the country, but that will only be seen on Thursday, when Narendra Modi arrives in Agra to launch his electoral campaign from the land of Krishna.


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Email sent out today by Shoma Chaudhury to all tehelka staffers
Tarun will be recusing himself as the editor of Tehelka for the next six months.
Only for 6 months, more like suspension, nothing more.
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Self inflicted 6 month recluse means in law it requires at least 6 years..heard the girl had to be taken to hospital or still is.
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a life long injury to a female journo, for that this guy thought a 6 month "not going to work" suits him well...nice guy.
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IMO, FIR should be filed and action initiated against the tayjpal turd.
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bhargava wrote:It is indeed the turd..this should clear it Email sent out today by Shoma Chaudhury to all tehelka staffers
What sort of laceration is recusing oneself for six months after "misreading" the situation? BCCI Chair drama of recusing oneself is a great new innovation template adopted by the high and mighty to indicate chitta-shuddhi.

This is another aspect of NM which always stands out: this business of apology is BS, if you do the crime, then serve the time, should be the mantra in Bharat; going forward.
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Proves that he is a pure paki
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>> A bad lapse of judgment, an awful misreading of the situation

would be interesting to know the exact details..how far he went in his lapse of judgement. sounds like the female has been paid off to keep quiet...he will crawl back in 6 months after writing a book or taking a long vacation.
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Tehelka and TT are as scummy as you can get. What is the issue here with TT?
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^More like pure Congressi, remember N.D. Tiwari, Abhishek Singhvi, Vir Sanghvi, etc? That IS Congress culture.
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If you see all their victims have been people who are of certain ideological orientation where as others (who are 100 times more corrupt) have been given a pass.
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NGOs, activists, suo-moto activists, PIL activists, media and even international media is keeping silent only.

Women heading women's commissions are busy politicking during elections.
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IMO, The dirty tricks dept of congi raked up this snoopgate to work on the women voters of delhi to divert them away from the BJP, Not sure why they brought it out during a state election.
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mraghu wrote:IMO, The dirty tricks dept of congi raked up this snoopgate to work on the women voters of delhi to divert them away from the BJP, Not sure why they brought it out during a state election.
For the simple reason that they are running out of ideas as to how to stop the BJP
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But why now ? is this the last stand or is it just the start ? National Elections are far more important for the die-nasty than delhi. So why now ?
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mraghu wrote:But why now ? is this the last stand or is it just the start ? National Elections are far more important for the die-nasty than delhi. So why now ?
The Congress cannot afford to lose all four to the BJP. If that happens, the momentum shifts decisively in favour of the BJP and the loss of power at the centre is only an eventuality. Hence the dirty tricks department is on the overdrive.
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and Delhi is where all of these law breaking guys live. So can A CM of Delhi today influence DP (that is under home ministry) to book Tarun Tejpal for Rape? Or can they influence cash for vote and put some cong big wigs under the scanner?
Delhi govt is a important lever.
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So the tehelka turd turns out to be a man of his words
But “Tehelka” editor Tarun Tejpal’s crass remarks at Friday’s dinner have raised hackles here: “Now you are in Goa, drink as much as you want… eat and sleep well with anyone you think of, but get ready to arrive early because we have a packed house.”
Source: Controversy clouds Tehelka 'Thinkfest'
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Wow, Tejpal shows his true colors. All these days writing about womens rights and how fascist hindus abused women. I am just thankful this turd didn't assault her further.
An email that was sent by the victim who is a reporter with Tehelka to the managing editor however says that what Tejpal did was not a bad lapse of judgment but a case of serious sexual assault. She says that Tejpal tried to disrobe her and groped her twice during the recently concluded Think festival in Goa.
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