Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

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Postby member_20317 » 26 Dec 2013 11:48

Virendra wrote:AAP is miles away from the bulk of rural votes of India .. for now that is.
As far as 2014 is concerned, we can only expect them to spoil BJP's chances at 5-10 seat at best.


You got a point there. But then NaMo does not have to ID the opponent. This is not precision strike SAM emplacement.

NaMo can directly attack the agenda without attacking the man. In fact just to rub the salt in he could even think of praising AK47.

Run a campaign in the rural areas saying the 'Rich Delhi will be living on subsidies while the poorer people in the villages will be slogging'. The message is not exactly a lie and is very very dharmic without being illegal.

Attack big government dafter-shahi concepts as being the root of rural exploitation. Attack subsidies, as chori chakari. Show secularism as double speak - actually show the pamphlets distributed by AAP in the muslim localities in the Hindu majority urban areas (Right now only the BJP supporters know this but the voters do not). Question the English MSM, for ignoring the needs of the larger country to highlight only Delhi and urbanites.

Though I admit these may not be to the liking of the urban Indians and may even be considered divisive. But hell if BJP has got to lose with the urbanites then at least they should get the queen in (the rural areas). Only caveat being that BJP should keep modulating the message in a way that instead of being actually decisive it is clearly contrasting.

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Postby member_20317 » 26 Dec 2013 11:57

Virendra wrote:AAP is miles away from the bulk of rural votes of India .. for now that is.
As far as 2014 is concerned, we can only expect them to spoil BJP's chances at 5-10 seat at best.


True that. But they do not have to seek all of votes every where. The are just like the NOTA. Please keep in mind the %age NOTA in Chattisgarh. All AAP needs to do in rural areas is to make people believe that they have no hope, that BJP == Congress and that their fidayeen act of voting for AAP will make them deserving of 72 hoories even if the fidayeen does not get kashmir.

This AAP is not big in rural areas is a valid factual observation but not a valid argument for ignoring the threat of Vightan ki rajniti. Every imperial force wishes for the people to remain disunited. That is the only rationale for the existence of SaPa+AAP+NOTA.

Not ID-ing the concepts and attacking them would be like not using the full house in a game of cards. I mean use it appropriately but don't think of ignoring it.

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Hari Seldon » 26 Dec 2013 11:59

nageshks wrote:
Hari Seldon wrote:Slide showing all seats that BJP has won at least once so far... the sheer enormity of what is being asked of the cadre and Modi becomes clear....


Is it in a single election, Hari-ji? Otherwise, there are a few problems with it.


Across all elections, nageshgaru. I know post delimitation and all, imputations would have to be done but overall, IMO, the tables are OK.

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Postby SaiK » 26 Dec 2013 12:08

Virendra wrote:NaMo's silence on Kejri and AAP is intriguing .. doesn't want to give them undue attention?
The moment Modi speaks of them .. they will promote to national players .. in perception atleast?

what can namo speak on a person/party with no data at all to match up with? speak about what?

the only thing I can see is him coming out with a plan for anti-corruption strategies, that not only includes aap's, but uska baap as well.

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Postby abhishek_sharma » 26 Dec 2013 12:10

Whats up with the court decision today?

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Postby krishnan » 26 Dec 2013 12:10

his tone has changed and he seems to talk only about development, though he asks people to through out congress and make india congress mukth bharat

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Postby Shanmukh » 26 Dec 2013 13:13

Hari Seldon wrote:Across all elections, nageshgaru. I know post delimitation and all, imputations would have to be done but overall, IMO, the tables are OK.


BJP had won both of the Goa seats in 1999. Similarly, BJP had won both of Arunachal Pradesh seats in 2004. In Assam, the BJP has won Karimganj, Silchar, Gauhati, Mangaldoi, and Nowgong seats in the past (that makes it 5 seats, not 4). In Karnataka, the BJP has won every seat except for Kolar, Chikkaballapur, Hassan and Chamarajanagar, so that makes it 24, not 20. Not sure how these numbers were computed.

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby IndraD » 26 Dec 2013 13:52

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 964554.cms

cabinet nod for gujarat snooping. Perhaps last attempt by congress to target modi some how

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Postby muraliravi » 26 Dec 2013 14:26

JohneeG Saar,

I agree with you that Congress can go down even more, but dont u think they can cross 10-15 seats in UP after alliance with BSP.

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Postby muraliravi » 26 Dec 2013 14:36

Amit Shah Uvacha:

Amit Shah BJP™ ‏@AmitShahTweet 20h
#AAPसिर्फ उन्ही जगहों से क्यू लोकसभा चुनाव में ज्यादा फोकस कर रही है जहा-जहा #BJPमजबूत है???

Amit Shah BJP™ ‏@AmitShahTweet 20h
केजरीवाल IIT पास है जबकि गोवा के भाजपा के मुख्यमंत्री मनोहर परिकर भी IIT पास है गोवा के मुख्यमंत्री ने पहले से ही सुरक्षा नहीं ले रखी है

Amit Shah BJP™ ‏@AmitShahTweet 21h
Yes, Congress and AAP can never be the same. Congress fooled illiterates... AAP fooled the educated ones !!

Amit Shah BJP™ ‏@AmitShahTweet 23h
AAP fighting against corruption with help of congress is Similar to ISI fighting against Terrorism with help of Taliban..

A peek into what kind of attack Namo's team might be planning on fordiwal. They wont do much now, they will wait for this AAP tide to pass for 2-3 weeks. Even if they say something now, the MSM will ignore it. Namo will not let this guy take a free pass, he will hit him hard. I dont think BJP needs to hit AAP on the ground at all. AAP was a full too media creation and BJP has to destroy them thru media onlee.

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby member_20317 » 26 Dec 2013 15:03

Does the new lokpal law also require a relook into the Commission of Enquiries Act?

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Postby VikramS » 26 Dec 2013 15:16

I think Modi will change his tone now and focus more on the vision and his plans.

The reasons are simple:

In the run-up to the election he needed to rally the cadres. Needless to say, that task has been achieved.

Now he has to appeal the the man in the middle, the swing voter, the apolitical voter, the apathetic one.

They come in all shades, but they don't typically like those who are too aggressive, boastful, shrill (all terms I have seen used).

So yes softening of tone, and focus on vision will start taking center-stage.

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Postby RajeshA » 26 Dec 2013 15:20

@AmitShahTweet is not Amit Shah's account. Amit Shah's account is @AmitShahOffice.

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Postby Christopher Sidor » 26 Dec 2013 15:32

Till now we had only two options, one was Congress and the other was BJP. There was no third alternative. But with AAP there is hope. This country can see the birth of a PAN-India alternative both to Congress and to BJP.

If Congress pulls the plug on AAP then AAP has a moral victory on its hands. But that will not happen. What Congress and BJP will try to do to AAP is what Muslim League did to Congress in 1946-7. They stalled each and every initiative undertaken by the Congress thus rendering it incapable of governing.

AAP is truly a threat to BJP. Because it shows that not the entire middle class is a BJP support plank. Rather till now BJP was taking the votes of middle class by default due to the non-performance of Congress. Now in presence of AAP people who are put off by BJP and its ideology have a option. A Non-regional non-sectarian option. In other words BJP cannot assume that middle class would vote for BJP by default.

Till now no party was talking about the lal-bathi culture of Delhi. Now they are. If UPA/Congress was blamed for not passing Lokpal then so is NDA/BJP equally responsible. In over 6+ years of NDA rule BJP did not try anytime to pass the Lokpal Bill. This election is not about BJP vs congress. It is about Good governance. And therein lies the hope for AAP.

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Postby Klaus » 26 Dec 2013 15:38

Singha wrote:
thats what I thought so too. he looks like a loyal Shishya now reporting back to his incapacitated Guru about mission accomplished :mrgreen:

history will tell us the truth of what dark forces this man vanquished just as history has been much kinder to one PVN Rao...remember in his day used to be the butt of jokes in the media for saying nothing on controversial issues....cartoons were published with a locked zipper for a mouth.
http://www.sridar.com/wp-content/upload ... 059711.jpg

MMS used to report to PVN and they must go back a long way..here he is at the funeral
http://www.thenational.ae/storyimage/AB ... on=default


A keen observer of the NaMo/BJP campaign would have observed all kinds of INC/independence legacy names come up, Sardar Patel, LBS, Shyamji Krishna Varma, even a photo of NaMo meeting Netaji's relatives are some that come to mind. However, it is difficult to bring PVNR to the fore as an non-dynasty person due to this very reason that his achievements are not very well articulated in a documentary or short film format.

While we on BRF have read several of PVNR's contributions to the nation in print form, the wider audience needs to come to know much more about this former PM of India, IMO it would be appropriate if the NaMo campaign brings this to the fore of the public consciousness.

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Postby subhamoy.das » 26 Dec 2013 15:39

PAAP is a very local, read Delhi, phenomena. It is like TMC trying to beat BJP outside of Bengal. PAAP will remain and dis-integrate as a Delhi event. No need for dhoti-shiver. Just watch the things unfolding in the coming weeks and see the NAUTANKI.

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Postby muraliravi » 26 Dec 2013 15:51

Christopher Sidor wrote:Till now we had only two options, one was Congress and the other was BJP. There was no third alternative. But with AAP there is hope. This country can see the birth of a PAN-India alternative both to Congress and to BJP.

If Congress pulls the plug on AAP then AAP has a moral victory on its hands. But that will not happen. What Congress and BJP will try to do to AAP is what Muslim League did to Congress in 1946-7. They stalled each and every initiative undertaken by the Congress thus rendering it incapable of governing.

AAP is truly a threat to BJP. Because it shows that not the entire middle class is a BJP support plank. Rather till now BJP was taking the votes of middle class by default due to the non-performance of Congress. Now in presence of AAP people who are put off by BJP and its ideology have a option. A Non-regional non-sectarian option. In other words BJP cannot assume that middle class would vote for BJP by default.

Till now no party was talking about the lal-bathi culture of Delhi. Now they are. If UPA/Congress was blamed for not passing Lokpal then so is NDA/BJP equally responsible. In over 6+ years of NDA rule BJP did not try anytime to pass the Lokpal Bill. This election is not about BJP vs congress. It is about Good governance. And therein lies the hope for AAP.


Nice joke. Like our constitution makers were fools and they did not see this need for creating this joker pal if it was really that important. Why do you want people who have no mandate from the people act as a vetoeing authority?

What I have bolded above in your write up is even more preposterous. The middle class of india voted for BJP for national security, justified use of taxpayer money and not useless ponzi entitlement schemes, a section of the middle class felt BJP stood for india's cultural and territorial integrity. The AAP stands for entitlement based society, an outdated version of socialist economics, dilution of india's stand on kashmir, insulting honest police officers who eliminate terrorists. I dont think any thinking middle class guy who voted for BJP with some understanding of what the BJP stands for will ever consider AAP. The only people AAP may attract are the junkie hippie metro crowd which was never with BJP but did show some inclination to back modi in this election.
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Postby Comer » 26 Dec 2013 15:52

Flash news in Headlines Today:

Ahmedabad court rejects Zakia Jafri's plea. Upholds SIT's decision.

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Postby muraliravi » 26 Dec 2013 15:53

RajeshA wrote:@AmitShahTweet is not Amit Shah's account. Amit Shah's account is @AmitShahOffice.


Thanks sir for correcting. I guess I got carried away.

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Postby krishnan » 26 Dec 2013 16:00

mamtan14 ‏@mamtan14 2m

“@subodh1945: Here Arnab comes on @timesnow” That's the Ultimate Clean chit Needed by Modi ... LOL

mamtan14 ‏@mamtan14 1m

Big BLOW to Modi RT @ndtv: Zakia Jafri case: Relief for Narendra Modi, Ahmedabad court accepts SIT's clean chit to him in 2002 riots case

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Postby krishnan » 26 Dec 2013 16:01

http://dharmanext.blogspot.in/2013/09/z ... posed.html
Above: This audio conversation between Teesta Setalvad's ex-aide, Rais Khan Pathan and Zakia Jafri's brother-in-law, Safdar Ankaleshwaria was recorded by Rais Khan Pathan on 27.11.2010

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Postby krishnan » 26 Dec 2013 16:03

Jiten Gajaria ‏@jitengajaria 2m

Zakia Jafri who ran a cottage industry over her husband death should tell the world on role of Cong leader Meghsinh Chaudhary in his death

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby LakshO » 26 Dec 2013 16:05

vivek.rao wrote:I don't know all about you guys! I am giving up on 2014. I think the conspiracy of Kujli is going to hit India badly. I have immense trust in naivety of Indians. I think just like we fell for Weepy Singhs, Laloos, Mulyams, a lot of stupid people are already falling or Kujli. Kujli's message is simple. CONGis are corrupt. BJP are corrupt. The media is broadcasting that message every day 24x7

I think we need to brainstorm how BJP can fight and get over the naivety of Indians.

We need to emphasize on Growth, Development, Jobs. Kujli never talks about these issues. Corruption and free stuff.


All this angst before AK or AAP held 1, repeat 1, rally outside Delhi? Attended by lakhs, voluntarily? What gives?! :P

However, I agree that NaMo & BJP must emphasize on development, growth, jobs and security.

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Postby abhishek_sharma » 26 Dec 2013 16:19

NEWS FLASH: 2002 Gujarat riots: Court upholds SIT's clean chit to Modi

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Postby Singha » 26 Dec 2013 16:33

At the same time msm was having a collective orgasm that cabinet has approved a farzi enquiry into saheb snooping case.

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Postby krishnan » 26 Dec 2013 16:37

she is planning to goto higher court.

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Postby Arjun » 26 Dec 2013 16:48

krishnan wrote:she is planning to goto higher court.

Not going to become an issue in this elections for sure.

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Postby Nitesh » 26 Dec 2013 16:52

With the court order, BJP should attack any one jumping with 2002 case. I guess this should get burial now

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Postby Murugan » 26 Dec 2013 17:40

Khujlival urf Farjiwal on Terrorism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95ikDo6elPg


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Postby Murugan » 26 Dec 2013 18:42

Is it possible to get the verdict of today against Zakia and shitta shitalwad

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Postby member_20317 » 26 Dec 2013 18:45

LakshO wrote:All this angst before AK or AAP held 1, repeat 1, rally outside Delhi? Attended by lakhs, voluntarily? What gives?! :P

However, I agree that NaMo & BJP must emphasize on development, growth, jobs and security.



AK is the new Zakir Naik. :P

The earlier you ID the malady less painful the treatment.

.........................................

But seriously if NaMo has been cleared by two bodies (SIT & now the court) looking into the evidence available (1 against - the amicus curiae opinion) then I hope he is in the clear for good.

I don't think that the cottage industry will give up, though. It is really surprising how one Sanjiv Bhatt can cause so much trouble.

Here is an old quote from the amicus curiae:
"There is no documentary material of any nature whatsoever which can establish that Shri Bhatt was not present at the meeting :eek: on 27.02.2002. In the absence of the minutes of the meeting, there is again no documentary material available as to the participants in the meeting and what transpired at the said meeting," Ramchandran said in his report.

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Postby prahaar » 26 Dec 2013 20:05

ravi_g wrote:
But seriously if NaMo has been cleared by two bodies (SIT & now the court) looking into the evidence available (1 against - the amicus curiae opinion) then I hope he is in the clear for good.

I don't think that the cottage industry will give up, though. It is really surprising how one Sanjiv Bhatt can cause so much trouble.

Here is an old quote from the amicus curiae:
"There is no documentary material of any nature whatsoever which can establish that Shri Bhatt was not present at the meeting :eek: on 27.02.2002. In the absence of the minutes of the meeting, there is again no documentary material available as to the participants in the meeting and what transpired at the said meeting," Ramchandran said in his report.


Ravi_g, in case you are not aware SIT had specific mobile phone records about the 27-2-2002 claim by Sanjiv Bhatt. The mobile records suggest he was on a phone call at least 1 hour away from the said meeting location at the time of the go-slow instructions. Other recorded statements also point towards discrepancy in his story. Probably amicus curiae felt otherwise.

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Postby RajeshA » 26 Dec 2013 22:04

The Kejriwal Infection

Link to Blog post

I have gone into the reasons why Kejriwal has been able to generate such a big following in Delhi in my previous post: Four Faces of Arvind Kejriwal. Beyond the people who have flocked to him due to his message, there are many more belonging to vote-banks whose shift to Aam Aadmi Party has been managed by the usual political agents – the Muslims, the slum-dwellers, etc. and this management has been done with the explicit approval and at the direction of Sonia Gandhi, so as to inflate the Kejriwal Effect just enough for electoral success upon which the mainstream media could have further built upon.

Then there is the additional populism and anti-establishment swagger that Aam Aadmi Party likes to sell, which makes it easier for the party to explain the vote-bank shift from Congress to AAP. Other than that Arvind Kejriwal and his lieutenants have been selling a strong Islamist line to the Muslims: referendum in Kashmir (through Prashant Bhushan), increased Bangladeshi immigration (through Tauqeer Raza), sympathy for Jihadi elements (through Shazia Ilmi). The mainstream media have decided to blanket the story, so that the middle class does not learn about it.

There is basically not much difference between a Mulayam Singh Yadav or a Lalu Prasad Yadav or a Mayawati on the one hand and Kejriwal’s Aam Aadmi Party. One would say that those are all Jātivadi parties, all beholden to socialism and Muslim appeasement, where some Jāti Neta holds sway over his Jāti through his traditional influence over a network of Jāti middlemen and local power-brokers. A few selected people in his Jāti receive the fruits of the Neta‘s election to power, some more of his Jāti receive preference over others, but the vast majority receive nothing.

What Arvind Kejriwal has been able to achieve is to establish himself as a Jāti Neta over Delhi’s middle class. One would say that that is not possible; the middle class is far too politically aware and educated to be taken in by such retrogressive instincts. This is a crap argument.

The Delhi based mainstream media has acted in the role of Jāti middlemen and local power-brokers. They have mastered how to brainwash the Delhi-based middle class using a diet of misinformation, distraction and selective focus. It is a much more sophisticated way of manipulating a vote-bank but it is happening nevertheless.

The fact that Arvind Kejriwal is an IIT alumnus has been projected by the mainstream media as being today’s equivalent of being an educated Kashmir Brahmin say in 1947, as if nothing else matters, and there are no other IIT alumni or achievers in India. Being IIT alumnus gives one the right to claim one’s position as a Jāti Neta of Delhi’s middle class.

Other than this all that Arvind Kejriwal really offer the Delhites is more of socialism and minority appeasement which has led to both an economic downturn in Indian growth story as well as an increase in Islamic extremism in India.

Is there any cure for the Kejriwal Infection which has been unleashed on Delhi middle class by Sonia Gandhi and the mainstream media?

I’ve been hearing voices on twitter saying that BJP supporters should not indulge in name calling and should have a proper debate on issues with the Aam Aadmi Party supporters. That is useless advice. An infected AAP supporter is not going to change his opinion about AAP based on feasibility of passing Jan Lokpal Bill in Delhi, or providing 700 liters of free water to Delhi citizens, or providing electricity at 50% of the current rates. All this would not sway the opinion of the people as the message they have latched onto is that Hazrat Kejriwal is on a mission to cleanse India’s political system and that BJP is the same as Congress, and those are the only two messages that count.

Debating Aam Aadmi Party on the issues of governance and development is giving them recognition as a party that really cares about these issues. Arvind Kejriwal does NOT care about these issues.

Kejriwal’s mission is to serve as an alternate political vehicle for Dynasty’s political assets and agenda, a big part of which is to deny Bharat its civilizational identity and strength, something shared and supported by major foreign powers. As Congress and its ideological cousins seem to lose support in the Hindu majority country, due to rampant corruption, territorial insecurity and collapse of development and governance, a need is felt by these powers to replace the old political vehicles and market the old wine in new bottles.

BJP leaders are still using wrong terminology to oppose Aam Aadmi Party. Aam Aadmi Party is not Congress’s B Team. Congress itself is simply a political vehicle for the interests of Dynasty and foreign establishments, and this vehicle is not some sacred cow for these interests. Congress too is dispensable. So calling Aam Aadmi Party as Congress’s B Team would be inappropriate as it misses the point and projects a false model. It allows AAP supporters to easily falsify the model citing multiple examples where AAP has hurt Congress electorally and is willing to also hurt Congress leaders.

The only truth is that Arvind Kejriwal is Sonia’s lieutenant, and Sonia would do everything to see to it that Arvind Kejriwal wins ever more credibility and support in his “constituency” or Jāti of middle class, and if for that she has to sacrifice some chess pieces like Sheila Dixit or Sandeep Dixit. She would allow Kejriwal even to go after the Dynasty itself if it helps him. Point is that Sonia Gandhi wants to either install her own man as the next PM or to deny Narendra Modi a free hand in the next government.

If BJP wants to counter the Kejriwal infection, then BJP needs a more focused message and action.

  1. Call Arvind Kejriwal for what he is: Sonia Gandhi’s lieutenant. If AAP could inject the message that Congress and BJP are the same thing, then BJP has to counter it with telling the people that AAP and Congress are the same thing – Sonia Gandhi’s political vehicles, two different trucks both belonging to Sonia Gandhi. One truck is broken so she is reloading all her stuff to her other truck.

  2. Tell the world that almost all the assets being used by Arvind Kejriwal to strengthen AAP have been donated by Sonia Gandhi. She is his primary seed capitalist. Yogender Yadav was Rahul Gandhi’s man. The web presence and public relations of AAP was being managed by a Congress team. Most of the mainstream media which have been pushing Arvind Kejriwal are basically Congress assets.

  3. Most damning is the letter that Sonia Gandhi wrote to PM Dr. Manmohan Singh in 2005 to not transfer Arvind Kejriwal out of Delhi. Why would something like that interest Sonia Gandhi? Meenakshi Lekhi did bring out some details of the letter. Use the letter extensively.

  4. Go on an offensive against all of AAP’s second tier leadership and expose them to the people, their connections to various NGOs, their foreign funding, their connections to anti-national elements. Usually people see such attacks as personal attacks and throwing mud, but it has to be part of the strategy. Get lower rung BJP spokespeople to raise these issues.
  5. Show mainstream media (MSM) as serving only the interests of the Dynasty. Put up posters everywhere with graphs showing the relationship between Dynasty and Media moguls in India. Tell the people that if mainstream media is pushing the case of Arvind Kejriwal then that itself is proof of Arvind Kejriwal being Sonia Gandhi’s man.

  6. Each and every action of Arvind Kejriwal should be explainable to the people as to how it helps Sonia Gandhi.

  7. BJP should start taunting the Congress in Delhi, especially Sheila Dixit, how Sonia Gandhi has dumped Congress in Delhi and moved her support to Arvind Kejriwal and his AAP group.

  8. Use the right slogans which exposes the relationship between Sonia Gandhi and Arvind Kejriwal, e.g. AAM = Asset of Antonia Maino.

Delhi BJP’s campaign should be built solely on projecting Arvind Kejriwal’s links to Sonia Gandhi. Everything else is noise. No more talk of AAP being Congress’s B Team. No more talk about water and electricity.

Of course BJP should make a strong positive case for Surāj and Vikas and fighting Bhrashtachar, but that is independent of AAP.
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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Murugan » 26 Dec 2013 22:16

Good account of NaMo's action during 2002

http://storify.com/ForceNamo/actual-fin ... -sit-probe

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Victor » 26 Dec 2013 23:26

Kejriwal needs to be seen with NSG commandos protecting him 24/7 in a bulletproof van, not driving around in his own Maruti like the avg Delhiite aam admi. A good thrashing by "congress goons" should take care of that. The sooner he gets taken down from his holier than thou pedestal and the sooner Delhites see him as just another lying politician the better for everybody.

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby RajeshA » 26 Dec 2013 23:30

Victor wrote:Kejriwal needs to be seen with NSG commandos protecting him 24/7 in a bulletproof van, not driving around in his own Maruti like the avg Delhiite aam admi. A good thrashing by "congress goons" should take care of that. The sooner he gets taken down from his holier than thou pedestal and the sooner Delhites see him as just another lying politician the better for everybody.


Kejriwal is best of friends with all sorts of questionable groups: Kashmiri Jihads, Islamists, Bangladeshis, Naxals, etc. What does he have to worry about?

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Hari Seldon » 27 Dec 2013 00:08

Excellent storification of a series of in-depth tweets exposing twista's and the NGO cottage industry's duplicity on Namo-2002...

http://storify.com/jemin_p/vendetta-aga ... ource=t.co

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Muppalla » 27 Dec 2013 00:54

Now the cottage industry sings " ab mera kya hog!!! ab mera kya hoga!!! "

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Rahul Mehta » 27 Dec 2013 08:05

RajeshA wrote:hat Arvind Kejriwal is Sonia’s lieutenant, and Sonia would do everything to see to it that Arvind Kejriwal wins ever more credibility and support in his “constituency” or Jāti of middle class, and if for that she has to sacrifice some chess pieces like Sheila Dixit or Sandeep Dixit. She would allow Kejriwal even to go after the Dynasty itself if it helps him. Point is that Sonia Gandhi wants to either install her own man as the next PM or to deny Narendra Modi a free hand in the next government.


AK now directly reports to MNC-owners and Missionaries. AK is no more lieutenant of Sonia. And to make that point clear, AK will soon order inquiries against Robert Vadra. Congress is forced by MNC-owners and Missionaries to lend support to AK. MNC-owners and Missionaries dont mind sacrificing whole of Congress including Sonia\RG\PG\RV to make AK PM of India. Now BJP-leaders do NOT have courage to call spade a spade and disclose the FACT that AK is MNC/Missionary agent. Because in such case, MNC-owners will unleash all its paid-media and paid-judiciary on BJP-leaders that the BJP-leaders will get blasted.

So if BJP-leaders make FALSE allegation that AK is Sonia's lackey, then they will lose water once AK orders arrest of Robert Vadra or inquiry on him. And BJP-leaders dont have strength to spread the truth, and they dont have courage to punch above their strength. All in all, only "winning" strategy BJP-leaders have against AK is to give Loksabha tickets to MNC-agents in BJP. With this, MNC-owners will reduce the paid-media supply to AK and let BJP win.

Now thats a "winning" strategy for BJP. For us nationalists, that is NOT an option. The only option we nationalists IMO have is to put REAL legislative reforms before all activists of AAP and all parties. And tell EACH activists of every party that their leader is fake because he refuses to support these REAL legislative reforms that India needs badly. This will bust AK. And if that damages BJP, well, then thats the price they pay for opposing good legislative reforms for whatever chankian reasons they had.

eg I am asking AAP activists on why AAP is opposing Preferential Voting System and Two Round Voting System today for Delhi Municipal electoral reforms? Many activists support TRVS and PVS and so they see a point. The immediate cross-question I get is "well, why dont you ask BJP\Congress\NaMo\Sonia for TRVS and PVS?" And my reply is "well, I never voted for BJP\Congress\NaMo\Sonia and I have always asked people NOT to vote for BJP\Congress\Sonia\NaMo because they oppose all good laws. Now you tell me about AAP\AK". Same way, I AK fans "why is AK = AAP refusing to bring Right to Recall Delhi Mayor draft and RTR Delhi Corporator draft in the Delhi Assembly now?". And such questions convince them to see real nature of AK. And this reduces the faith they have in AK.

Tell the world that almost all the assets being used by Arvind Kejriwal to strengthen AAP have been donated by Sonia Gandhi. She is his primary seed capitalist. Yogender Yadav was Rahul Gandhi’s man. The web presence and public relations of AAP was being managed by a Congress team. Most of the mainstream media which have been pushing Arvind Kejriwal are basically Congress assets.


The allegation is wrong. Sonia never funded AAP=IAC=AK in past 4 years. All funding came from MNC-owners directly and went directly to paid-media. AK never got any money directly. So above false allegations will only make AK supporters more die hard AK supporter. just as fake allegations on NaMo only increases commitment of NaMo fans towards NaMo.

Most damning is the letter that Sonia Gandhi wrote to PM Dr. Manmohan Singh in 2005 to not transfer Arvind Kejriwal out of Delhi. Why would something like that interest Sonia Gandhi? Meenakshi Lekhi did bring out some details of the letter. Use the letter extensively.


Other than this letter, there is no evidence that AK-Sonia had any links. And to circumvent this letter, AK has already cut votes of Congress in Delhi-2013 electuons, and AK may also order inquiry against Robert Vadra soon. And some letter of 2005, and that too just a mere letter for issue like transfer, not some favor of crores of rupees will not carry much weights on voters forget AK-fans.

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Anyway, IMO, best way to cut AK is to present REAL legislative reforms to AK's fans, not some hearsay, slogans etc. The hearsay and slogans will have no impact on AK's fans. And raising issue of REAL legislative reforms will damage BJP leaders as well, and thats the damage BJP leaders deserve for opposing all REAL legislative reforms till date.


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