Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

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Postby vivek.rao » 09 Feb 2014 06:06

What Modi campaign needs is a mindset poriborton


In the 1950s, an angry Jawaharlal Nehru described Kolkata as a “city of processions” , an image that still persists in the national imagination . The former capital of British India may have lost its economic importance and been bypassed by the cutting edge of market-inspired modernity, but it has stubbornly refused to shed its voluble preoccupation with politics.

On January 31, Mamata Banerjee organised a massive show of strength at the Maidan where she signalled her prime ministerial ambitions. From all accounts, there were some seven lakh or more people who turned up to cheer her. On Sunday, the now-beleaguered Left Front is to have its own rally at the same venue when it can look back with nostalgia at the days when the Brigade Parade Ground was covered in a sea of red flags. Nostalgia is probably the only remaining solace for a Left that, having lost power in 2011, is desperately (and somewhat unsuccessfully) trying to hold on to its remaining pockets of influence. According to roadside wisdom , never mind matching Mamata, the Left should focus on outperforming the Narendra Modi rally last Wednesday.

By the exacting standards he has set in his recent rallies in, say, Patna, Gorakhpur and Meerut, the Modi rally in Kolkata was modest. Yet, there was a difference. In northern and western India, the BJP has an organization capable of building on the reputation of its prime ministerial candidate. It has nothing of the sort in West Bengal, a state where BJP candidates are accustomed to forfeiting their security deposits. Under the circumstances, filling most of the massive Brigade Parade Ground was a stupendous achievement. It was more so because at least 40% of those who attended were walk-ins.

The Kolkata rally indicated quite clearly that there is a groundswell of goodwill (and curiosity) for Modi that far exceeds the organized support for the BJP. Moreover, this support is national. Modi is likely to get big crowds in Tamil Nadu, Kerala and West Bengal — states where the BJP does not figure in political calculations. Are people in these states going to cheer Modi at rallies and in front of their TV sets but on election day go out and endorse a candidate sponsored by Jayalalithaa or Mamata because a vote for BJP would be a wasted one?

For the Modi campaign this is a formidable challenge: how does it extricate the voter in the east and south from local politics and persuade him/ her to think national? In his own way Modi tried to grapple with the issue in Kolkata when he suggested that Mamata’s ‘poriborton’ in West Bengal could be complemented by a Modi-led ‘poriborton’ in Delhi. His message was clear: support Mamata if you must in an Assembly election but vote BJP to bring about a national transformation that will also touch Bengal.

In theory, people can vote differently at the state and national levels. They often have, especially when a tall leader such as Indira Gandhi made a pitch for the prime ministership. There is also evidence to indicate that party organization on the ground becomes largely irrelevant in a “wave” election — as happened in 1984, even in West Bengal. In a limited way, even the Aam Aadmi Party benefitted from such a phenomenon in Delhi last December: its campaign was based almost entirely on effective messaging.

If Modi is to lessen his dependance on temperamental allies who join the bandwagon after the election, he has to ensure the BJP win a clutch of seats from areas outside its traditional spheres of influence. The possibility of this happening is greater if the BJP makes the election extra-presidential . Of course, a half-decent candidate is a must but greater returns are likely to accrue if the party makes it clear that in, say, the 42 seats of Bengal and 39 seats of Tamil Nadu, that there is one candidate: Narendra Modi.

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Postby vivek.rao » 09 Feb 2014 06:09

Get this on twitter. SLAM CHIDU

Between 2000 and 2012, jobs grew by a mere 2% per year

Between 2000 and 2012, jobs have increased at an abysmal rate of just 2.2% per year. Agricultural employment, the mainstay for over two thirds of the people, has practically not grown in these thirteen years. Manufacturing jobs have grown by just 4% per annum as industry languishes. The one sector showing big growth is services, but as recently released survey findings from the NSSO show, the bulk of it is in retail trade, construction and personal services, and these are transitory, low-paying and tough jobs.

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Postby gandharva » 09 Feb 2014 06:22

But since being voted out of power in New Delhi in 2004, the BJP has failed to regain the footprints it had stamped over parts of the Northeast.

Asked why Modi was focusing on a region whose predominant demographic make-up did not exactly favour the BJP — there is a dominant Christian population — a party source said: “This is Modi’s agenda. He wants to cultivate a pan-Indian image on the back of the governance and development planks.

“You may say he is redefining nationalism so that the idea goes beyond the RSS’s conventional definition that essentially addresses the Hindus
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This was the reason Modi specifically mentioned that the Northeast has a big population of English speakers and there was need to integrate their linguistic skills with the development trajectory by setting up call centres in the region and giving them jobs. He also stressed that it was important to end the sense of “isolation” Northeast residents often feel.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1140209/j ... vbXyvhY4nk

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Postby KLP Dubey » 09 Feb 2014 06:27

The greasy little low-class crook P Chidambaram got a public thrashing from Shri Modi. It was just hilarious. He will definitely need a recount of his teeth after this. 8)

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Postby gandharva » 09 Feb 2014 06:29

Nearly one-lakh people turned up at the Langjing Achouba ground, defying a ban call by three Muslim organisations and a general strike by the United Revolutionary Front.

The crowd accepted Modi. He presented a clear picture of a national framework and a Manipur framework for development and also integrated the two. He impressed the crowd,” Amar Yumnam of the economics department of Manipur University said.

Modi chose not to use the bullet-proof podiums set up for him at the Imphal and Guwahati rallies despite Manipur having 40 insurgent organisations and Assam 16. Manipur’s latest blast occurred just an hour before his arrival.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1140209/j ... vbZv_hY4nk

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Postby Hari Seldon » 09 Feb 2014 06:31

Narendrabhai wooing Mallus in Trivandrum today.... the arrangements look impressive for a state unit divided by bitter factional infighting...

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Hope he also visits the padmanabhaswamy temple in Tvdm.

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Postby rohitv » 09 Feb 2014 06:45

vivek.rao wrote:Get this on twitter. SLAM CHIDU

Between 2000 and 2012, jobs grew by a mere 2% per year



Tweeted. Sharing information discrediting Congress/UPA and I am sure there are many is most welcome.

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Postby gandharva » 09 Feb 2014 07:19

The online appl. for Security Assistant (IB), MHA has a question:"R U a victim of Gujrat Riots 2002?"

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Postby gandharva » 09 Feb 2014 07:42

I think GrandPa and Storm Auntie need to be put under 24/7 surveillance for BJP's return to power in 2014.

A law for a vote bank

This piece is being written in the hope that by the time you read it, the BJP will not have changed its mind on the communal violence Bill. I say this because past experience shows us that the BJP’s senior leaders are very good at stalling Parliament with a lot of sound and fury for a day or so and then quietly letting pass every new piece of dodgy legislation that Sonia Gandhi puts before them. If they do exactly the same with this new law, then they will be doing India an unforgivable disservice.

Not one of them has been worthwhile and the BJP should be ashamed of itself for having happily gone along with passing them after the token amount of sound and fury. If this is what happens once more with this insidious new piece of legislation, then it does not deserve to ever come to power in Delhi.

The Congress has done much harm to India in the name of ‘secularism’, but the BJP has done as much harm in the past decade for being an opposition party that has worked virtually in absentia. If they want a degree of redemption, let them stop this Bill from becoming a dangerous new law.

http://indianexpress.com/article/opinio ... lA.twitter
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Postby Ashok Sarraff » 09 Feb 2014 07:49

Gandharva, did you take this screen grab yourself, if so you may be revealing your name inadvertently.

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Postby gandharva » 09 Feb 2014 07:51

I am not that stupid. It's not mine. Sambit Swaraj is BJP spokes person on TV.
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Postby KLP Dubey » 09 Feb 2014 07:51

Hari Seldon wrote:Narendrabhai wooing Mallus in Trivandrum today.... the arrangements look impressive for a state unit divided by bitter factional infighting...

Hope he also visits the padmanabhaswamy temple in Tvdm.


Great setting for the rally - from the picture it looks like it is on Shankhumukham beach close to the AAI goshala/cowshed (which doubles as the domestic airport). You can see the ocean in the background of the picture. I wonder what turnout they are expecting though - its only a short stretch of beach separating the road from the drink.

Shankhnaad@Shankhumukham! 8)

People like Shashi Tharoor must be getting worried. In addition to delivering his development agenda points, I hope Shri Modi exposes this seedy fellow (who has done absolutely nothing for the citizens of Trivandrum and instead is busy with his DL games).
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Postby gakakkad » 09 Feb 2014 07:56

ashish raval wrote:
gakakkad wrote:the moron alleges that there was an exodus of 40,000 sikh farmers from guj ...figure out of musharraf onree...so is the figure of 6000 farmer suicides....



Farmers in Gujarat have on an average 3-4 vehicles on their farm and at least one house and one shop in city. This is when I visited the hinterlands of Saurastra where the water is scarce resource. I doubt these figures could be from total deaths in the history and not recent as I have not heard any local newspapers reporting it while reading online. Half of the farmers of mehsana, Anand and surrounding Vadodara are not even living in India and own motels in USA. If you wander around sardar patel's birth place you will find hundreds of farms with houses in couple of acres and twenty thirty meters of driveways with sizes seen in Johar movies bigger than 10 k sq. feet construction on average. These guys farm tobacco which will give you crop worth 50-70 lack rs. Per acre at today's rate.

There could be deaths in areas adjoining Rajasthan and Pakistan may be because the water is very scarce and Narmada is not yet there thanks to Megha patkar and coterie but 6000 is too much.

I also don't understand how couple of hundred Sikh farmers of Gujarat could become hundred thousand in two generations and forty thousands migrated ! I doubt that too.





exactly ...There are more Gujarat farmers driving beemers than guj farmers who committed suicide...the farmer suicide stats are like 385 in 10 years... and there can be non-agricultural causes for farmer suicide...like family/marriage/love trouble/psychiatric illnesses etc...

the highest number of farmer suicides come from con ruled Maharashtra...4500...that is a quarter of 16000 ocurring in India ...and crop failure has been the documented cause in most of the 4500...

btw kutch has witnessed exemplary growth...

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Postby gakakkad » 09 Feb 2014 08:03

vivek.rao wrote:Get this on twitter. SLAM CHIDU



Between 2000 and 2012, jobs have increased at an abysmal rate of just 2.2% per year. Agricultural employment, the mainstay for over two thirds of the people, has practically not grown in these thirteen years. Manufacturing jobs have grown by just 4% per annum as industry languishes. The one sector showing big growth is services, but as recently released survey findings from the NSSO show, the bulk of it is in retail trade, construction and personal services, and these are transitory, low-paying and tough jobs.



Jobs is a state of mind...look..bhaiyya...we gave the RTI,MNREGA,Food security ,lokpal...Modi promised 10.5 lakh jobs ....but he delivered only 10.3 lakh jobs...look we gave the rti,mnrega.fsb bla..bla..lokpal bla...

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Postby RoyG » 09 Feb 2014 08:47

The IB will push back but it won't be enough to tip Congress over. They have skeletons too.

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Postby gandharva » 09 Feb 2014 08:49

"Idea of India" at full display


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Postby Rahul Mehta » 09 Feb 2014 09:02

gashish wrote:the term he used was "ghuspetiye", which would mean intruders and not refugees.


Unless one clearly mentions it , the word refugee and infiltrator mean the same. If one wants to be clear with meaning, then one MUST be clear with words. Did NaMo say that refugees from Bangladeshi will be welcome , but infiltrators will be kicked out? Did NaMo spell out on how his coming administration in 2014 will differentiate between the refugee and infiltrator? How will his admin prove if someone if infilitrator, because he can always claim himself as bonafide citizen or refugee. Pls cite his writings or quotes.


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Postby Sidhant » 09 Feb 2014 09:21

Mehta ji, since when the word refugee and infiltrator became the same. We hear about refugee camps but have you heard about infiltrator camps. I understand your modi bashing, but now you are plain nitpicking.

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Postby Hari Seldon » 09 Feb 2014 09:22

Clipping from a US newspaper.... incendiary stuff... or what...

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Postby member_20317 » 09 Feb 2014 09:33

Ghuspethiye = Ghus + Pethiye = Ingress + Base Creater.

Sharanarthi = Coming in for the purpose of seeking protection = Refugee. Refugee may remain without a base after having lost one at their original place.

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Postby gashish » 09 Feb 2014 10:12

Rahul Mehta wrote:
gashish wrote:the term he used was "ghuspetiye", which would mean intruders and not refugees.


Unless one clearly mentions it , the word refugee and infiltrator mean the same. If one wants to be clear with meaning, then one MUST be clear with words. Did NaMo say that refugees from Bangladeshi will be welcome , but infiltrators will be kicked out? Did NaMo spell out on how his coming administration in 2014 will differentiate between the refugee and infiltrator? How will his admin prove if someone if infilitrator, because he can always claim himself as bonafide citizen or refugee. Pls cite his writings or quotes.


RMji, Lets not miss forest for the trees. He conveyed his concern about the infiltration, willingness to tackle it, and spirit with which this issue will be handled. I don't expect more details than this in a public speech. This was not a detailed policy speech.

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Postby Chandragupta » 09 Feb 2014 10:59

disha wrote:
Neela wrote:Ah yes I remember. Didnt he say "tragedy of distance" or something to that effect


Tyranny of Distance.

For equating NaMo with his dog and Sagarika talking about "excrement"., this bunty-babli team have plunged new heights of inhumanity.

Anybody who says they like Rajdeep/Sagarika should have so much scorn heaped on them that they should shiver even if they remember them in their minds.


What did she say about 'excrement'?

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Postby SwamyG » 09 Feb 2014 11:14

Hari Seldon wrote:Clipping from a US newspaper.... incendiary stuff... or what...

Rahul Gandhi talks about RTI, is there a provision to 'query' and find out if NAC Chairperson was outside the country?

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Postby gandharva » 09 Feb 2014 11:18

With Kalyan Singh back in scheme of things and "Vajpayee Congress" sidelined, suddenly BJP is back in business in UP.

BJP's UP challenge: 50-plus seats seem a tall order for Lok Sabha elections

http://m.economictimes.com/news/politic ... 925943.cms

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Postby gashish » 09 Feb 2014 11:24

SwamyG wrote:
Hari Seldon wrote:Clipping from a US newspaper.... incendiary stuff... or what...

Rahul Gandhi talks about RTI, is there a provision to 'query' and find out if NAC Chairperson was outside the country?


To what end? However much SG+congi cronies and their policies are disliked, using extra-national power to settle scores against opposition undermines India and its institutions, IMO.

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Postby Yagnasri » 09 Feb 2014 12:57

SG is the extra national power. Since when she has Indic identity other than a passport. For several years NM was abused for not getting a US visa. Will anyone take up the Sikh case matter in US??? No one in paid media has guts for that.

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Postby Pratyush » 09 Feb 2014 13:28

What gives the us the right to indict a foreigner, for crimes committed elsewhere in the world. Acceping its jurisdiction in this matters. Is the surrender of sovereignty to the yanks. It is unacceptable. This is just a well timed IED for the GOI. Both corrent and future.

Giving the Americans a way to keep khalistan on the boil. This will be exploited once the BJP comes to power.

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Postby gashish » 09 Feb 2014 14:03

Narayana Rao wrote:SG is the extra national power. Since when she has Indic identity other than a passport. For several years NM was abused for not getting a US visa. Will anyone take up the Sikh case matter in US??? No one in paid media has guts for that.


Assuming SG as extra-national power, we still wouldn't want a 3rd party's intervention to solve our problem.
Even in case of Kashmir issue stoked by our rabid enemy, we detest khan's intervention.
Yes, Namo was harrassed and hounded by local anti-Indic forces collaborating with foreign powers. Namo (or any Indic group) doesn't have to do the same to put down these said forces. Once u give legitimacy to extra-national power's intervention in your internal matters, its a slippery slope, and treacherous too....

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his latest post on chennai meeting,

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Postby JohnTitor » 09 Feb 2014 14:32

Any idea why this isn't working?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWA_HRwMg3w

tryin to watch NM speech in KL. The youtube channel didn't work yesterday either. Is it just me or others having same issue?

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Postby Yagnasri » 09 Feb 2014 14:55

I am not saying that we should allow Khan to muddle into our national affairs. I am just pointing out we may not feel so bad for SG problems if she is in any problems in the first place. Just wait and see. NM is Chennai and CBN met with Amma and the news is that she is willing to join NDA after elections.

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Postby gandharva » 09 Feb 2014 15:05

R.K. Raghavan ex-Jt Director IB & ex-Director CBI on how #Congress party is destroying India's intel

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/tw ... epage=true

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Postby Sagrawal » 09 Feb 2014 15:06

Shonu wrote:Any idea why this isn't working?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWA_HRwMg3w

tryin to watch NM speech in KL. The youtube channel didn't work yesterday either. Is it just me or others having same issue?


I use http://www.narendramodi.in/liveevent/social/index.html it works all the time.

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Postby JohnTitor » 09 Feb 2014 15:20

Sagrawal wrote:I use http://www.narendramodi.in/liveevent/social/index.html it works all the time.

Thats the same one. I only see "Stand by.."

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Postby Vipin_Upadhyay » 09 Feb 2014 15:35

Shonu wrote:
Sagrawal wrote:I use http://www.narendramodi.in/liveevent/social/index.html it works all the time.

Thats the same one. I only see "Stand by.."


Check again, the event has started & youtube link is working now.

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Postby Vipin_Upadhyay » 09 Feb 2014 15:42

No BJP leader including (Vajpayee) has covered South India with such dedication as NaMo is doing.

He is giving everything to bring South as close as possible despite low presence of BJP in traditional TN & Kerala.

Whether he becomes PM or not is a matter of time, but the best thing that will come out of his effort will result in BJP gaining steadily in Dakshin Bharat.

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Postby svenkat » 09 Feb 2014 15:53

Cpmment by a reader on Raghavans article in Chindu
Those who are just hitched to fake 'human rights' have caused great harm to our nation through their unidirectional and blinkered view. Those who were killed, even if it were a fake encounter, are either terrorists or acquaintances of the terrorists who knew fully well of their association. The officers of IB and the Gujarat police did not have any prior enmity with these four people and therefore there is no motive for a conspiracy to eliminate them. Initially, the whole blame was put on the Gujarat police and only later was it revealed that they had indeed acted on information received from the IB. The hundreds of terrorist attacks on India from across the border have put enormous pressure on our intelligence and security agencies. Security agencies everywhere do eliminate human assets of the terror outfits in order to prevent security threats and it is only in India that we shoot ourselves in the foot under pseudo human rights concerns. Do we have any redemption at this rate ?
from: Subramanyam Sridharan

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2 hours to go and it's already over flowing. #NaMoInKerala


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