Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

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Shri. Atal Bihari Vajpayee in mid 80s. At his pristine best.


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Postby fanne » 06 Mar 2014 07:47

I will say this, I have not seen such a powerful performance from anyone on AAp ki Adalat. Not Even Modi !!

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Postby ramana » 06 Mar 2014 07:51

Looks like BJP old foggies in RS are not contesting for LS elections.

Senior BJP leaders in RS not to contest

BJP sources said top brass of the party took the decision a few days back that
Jaitley; BJP Vice President Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi; general secretaries Thawarchand
Gehlot, J P Nadda and Dharmendra Pradhan; and former party president M Venkaiah Naidu
should not enter the fray in the forthcoming general elections.

These leaders, known for their organizational skills, will plan out the campaign
strategy, analyze the way the campaign is heading and reveive feedbacks from the
ground, ..



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Postby Vipin_Upadhyay » 06 Mar 2014 10:34

BREAKING NOW ON TWITTER:

Just now Sushma Swaraj came out in open and declared that she is opposed to BSR alliance in Karnataka.

This going to be interesting, NaMo Vs D4Cong is out in open now. Let's see how NaMo handles this.

Currently Sushma looks like a hot potato to handle.

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Postby ShyamSP » 06 Mar 2014 10:46

Vipin_Upadhyay wrote:BREAKING NOW ON TWITTER:

Just now Sushma Swaraj came out in open and declared that she is opposed to BSR alliance in Karnataka.

This going to be interesting, NaMo Vs D4Cong is out in open now. Let's see how NaMo handles this.

Currently Sushma looks like a hot potato to handle.


Aren't Gali gangs sponsors of Sushma? One does dramas with friendlies than enemies

BJP should consider moving her as election coordinator for Andaman.

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Postby Vipin_Upadhyay » 06 Mar 2014 10:55

The problem is Sushma has not done anything worthwhile for BJP since last few months.

She is hoping against hope that NaMo lead BJP is contained below 190 and she gets a decent chance to become alternative candidate of NDA.

With Sonia nudge to allies like Mayawati, she might succeed in this. As both Sonia and her allies would prefer Sushma than NaMo at their throat!

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Postby Chandragupta » 06 Mar 2014 12:02

Throwing her out will give another chance to MSM & AAPtards to cry 'dictator! dictator!'. Instead, a quiet threat of being pushed into oblivion from Nagpur should do the trick. And then bundle her off to Andamans or wherever.

Also, its about time RNS & RSS make an announcement that come what may, there will not be an alternative PM candidate apart from Modi.

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Postby nawabs » 06 Mar 2014 12:08

RNS has already said so in an interview which was linked to in a previous post.

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Postby member_28468 » 06 Mar 2014 12:09

I will say this, I have not seen such a powerful performance from anyone on AAp ki Adalat. Not Even Modi !!



you are absolutely right i can say it is the best interview on aap ki adalat but ramdev is also good

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Postby kumarn » 06 Mar 2014 12:18

vishant chaudhary wrote:
I will say this, I have not seen such a powerful performance from anyone on AAp ki Adalat. Not Even Modi !!



you are absolutely right i can say it is the best interview on aap ki adalat but ramdev is also good


Absolutely brilliant. The best I have seen. Great clarity of thought and conviction. With such hanuman, who can defeat ram ji!

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Postby member_28173 » 06 Mar 2014 12:22

Where can I request for Gujarat thread ????

I believe Gujarat has done something right over long period of time. How situations were tackled

I would keep in mind 1969 - ONLY year lots of things went wrong for Gujarat. Only time RSS has best guy and Gujarat had best chance of giving India Strong PM - Moraji Desai.... COST to Gujarat. I want to research Hiten Desai --- Gujarat CM @ 1969 and why he behaved differently... He might have put Gujarat long terms destruction cost over long term benefit of INDIA. He might have looked at probability model....... He is least talked CM but holds the key how Gujarat Administration would behave.

How Gujarat policies were DIFFERENT From Delhi politics since 400 years - when it succeeds and where it fails. Co-incidently it was always orthogonal. Why after 1974 revolution , Gujarat got good governance and Bihar got opposite.

I might sound regionalist But My dream is "Gujarat as INSURANCE for India." Reason----- India has propensity to screw up when it looks like winning".... To be brutally rude ; Gujarat has prospered when India Screwed itself and Helped heal from Screwup on its own peril. Natioanlism in Gujarat is bit different.

My WishList from Modi : Isolate Gujarat Economically as Insurance against American Influenced Globalization which Rest of India is experiencing and EVEN Dying for :(

Short term : Gujarat will have dip in Economic activity but Bit being LONG TERM Insurance would make Namo chest 60 inch :)

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Postby member_28397 » 06 Mar 2014 13:15

BJP can’t win a Guerrilla war with AAP with their own Guerrila counter actions. Only way to win is to hit the source (CONs, Media and Foreign Backer(Money Pipelines)).
And BJP should hold all her horses till NaMo becomes PM. After that first action should be intercept Missionary and Saud money coming to India, crackdown on anti-national media and parties.

Likely reaction will be, American Agenda Party with Saint Farziwal at its head will try to do a Ukrain or Egypt in Delhi. NaMo should act strongly and pre empt this. NaMo will become another Putin for westerm media but I don’t think he cares much for that as he was always perceived as Evil in psedo sickular psychie and westerm media.

After these nuances are dealt with, there are two critical alliances NaMo has to form to be in power for at least 15 years, minimum time needed for Bharatvarsh to stand eye to eye infront of other great powers of the world.

Internal alliance with Mayawati.
This alliance will break the bone of Sickularists with Dalit Muslim combined share gone it will be smooth ride for NaMo for three terms at least.

External alliance with American Corporates.
This alliance should not be of a master and slave but a win win alliance. NaMo should give contracts to American corporates where no long term strategic interest of indian nation is compromised. Basically all Europe outgoing contracts should be channeled to USA. This will keep only superpower neutral towards a strong Indian govt.

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Postby member_28173 » 06 Mar 2014 13:53

>>>>>>>External alliance with American Corporates.
This alliance should not be of a master and slave but a win win alliance. NaMo should give contracts to American corporates where no long term strategic interest of indian nation is compromised. Basically all Europe outgoing contracts should be channeled to USA. This will keep only superpower neutral towards a strong Indian govt.[/quote].

no comments. never understood why we immediately look for safe options.
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Postby Singha » 06 Mar 2014 14:28

I wonder why she is abandoning the brothers..

New Delhi: Senior BJP leader and Leader of the Opposition in the Lok Sabha Sushma Swaraj has openly opposed the re-entry of 'tainted' mining barons of Bellary, the Reddy brothers into the party. Reacting to the media reports, she has tweeted opposing their return. "I am opposed to the BSR alliance or merger with BJP in Karnataka. I have conveyed to Shri Raj Nath Singhji in writing that BJP must not permit this," Sushma tweeted.
Sushma's open revolt is likely to force the BJP central leadership not to take the Reddy brothers back into the party. The Reddys had quit the BJP after they were arrested in the mining scam. They floated their own party called BSR Congress under the leadership of their confidante and former Karnataka minister B Sriramulu in 2012 to take on the BJP. The BSR Congress won 4 seats in the 2013 assembly elections in the state. After the failure of the experiment, the BSR Congress tried to merge with the Congress. The Congress declined their offer. After that the Karnataka BJP agreed to take them back into the party.
The BJP in Karnataka had confirmed that the party floated by the Reddys is going to be merged with the BJP very soon on Wednesday. Two of the BSR Congress MLAs including Sriramulu's nephew Suresh Babu, also an MLA from the party is currently also in jail in cases related to illegal mining. But the Karnataka BJP defended the decision saying that when the Congress can ally with Lalu Prasad Yadav; they see no problem in allying with Sriramulu. The BJP was planning to field Sriramulu in the forthcoming Lok Sabha election from Bellary, currently held by his younger sister J Shantha.
Leader of the opposition in Karnataka Assembly Jagadish Shettar had said that they gave an invitation to BSR Congress and Sriramulu had accepted that. He added that Sriramulu personally has no cases against him.
Sriramulu's godfather G Janardhana Reddy has been in jail for more than two and a half years. The Congress alleges that Sushma Swaraj had helped the Reddys to rise in the state BJP. She strongly denies such claims calling them politically motivated statements aimed at tarnishing her image.

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Postby Paul » 06 Mar 2014 14:29

Vipin_Upadhyay wrote:The problem is Sushma has not done anything worthwhile for BJP since last few months.

She is hoping against hope that NaMo lead BJP is contained below 190 and she gets a decent chance to become alternative candidate of NDA.

With Sonia nudge to allies like Mayawati, she might succeed in this. As both Sonia and her allies would prefer Sushma than NaMo at their throat!


Looks like SS in losing traction in the BJP election committee hence is voicing her frustrations in Twitter. No telling what her plight is in allocating tickets to her nominees. Recall how Ajit Singh sent his DIL to her house as a ruse for an alliance but was rejected by Namo and Rajnath Singh.

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Postby SanjayC » 06 Mar 2014 14:32

fanne wrote:Outlook is and was a paper run by an ex ***** editor. To its credit, it does not camouflage being anti India and ant-indic in its core ideology - which is in synch with its owner, editor and various other employees!!


This racket is being run by Rahejas, the builders, who fund and give space to these anti-India charlatans.

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Postby Supratik » 06 Mar 2014 14:52

SS should be firmly said NO as Srimalu has no allegations against him. Post-elections she should be sent to a position where she can do least damage.

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Postby chetak » 06 Mar 2014 15:00

Supratik wrote:SS should be firmly said NO as Srimalu has no allegations against him. Post-elections she should be sent to a position where she can do least damage.


Governor of kerala

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As Kerala Governor, Perhaps?

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Postby chetak » 06 Mar 2014 15:15

chaanakya wrote:As Kerala Governor, Perhaps?


Certainly, replacing sheila dixit when the new government is formed

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Postby Arunkumar » 06 Mar 2014 15:19

I think this sushma episode is a manufactured tale, something similar to 'Sonia is upset' type news that frequently makes headlines. Bjp has learnt a few tricks from congress. Nothing to loose sleep about. With just a month to go all these things might have been thought out long ago.

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Postby RajeshA » 06 Mar 2014 15:27

chetak wrote:
Supratik wrote:SS should be firmly said NO as Srimalu has no allegations against him. Post-elections she should be sent to a position where she can do least damage.


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Postby RajeshA » 06 Mar 2014 17:20

No Good Choices[/b]: TIME

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They don't like NaMo!

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Postby IndraD » 06 Mar 2014 17:41

Khujli as usual claiming , only ambani and adani got benifitted in Gujarat, rabid dog desperate for some modi attention

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Postby gandharva » 06 Mar 2014 17:48

Chandragupta wrote:Throwing her out will give another chance to MSM & AAPtards to cry 'dictator! dictator!'. Instead, a quiet threat of being pushed into oblivion from Nagpur should do the trick. And then bundle her off to Andamans or wherever.

Also, its about time RNS & RSS make an announcement that come what may, there will not be an alternative PM candidate apart from Modi.


Rajnath Singh said that about 2 weeks back.

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Postby gandharva » 06 Mar 2014 19:05

Another thread of "Lotta" connection revealed. This explains why D4 used to keep quiet when MSM was hounding NaMO.

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Postby Hari Seldon » 06 Mar 2014 19:10

gandharva wrote:
Chandragupta wrote:Also, its about time RNS & RSS make an announcement that come what may, there will not be an alternative PM candidate apart from Modi.


Rajnath Singh said that about 2 weeks back.


Then it needs to be said again and again at every drop of a hat. only.

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Postby gandharva » 06 Mar 2014 20:12

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Deep roots of Congress.

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Postby Singha » 06 Mar 2014 20:15

congi % is nearly even across the bands. BJP gradually declines for older.
so what is the nearly 40% of older going for - AAP :eek: Loh Purush :double eek: ?

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Postby member_28352 » 06 Mar 2014 20:32

^^^Singha saar, no need to increase BP over some concocted poll. Come elections and we will all know the vote share of INC. Right now MSM has put on the spiel that Rahul's popularity has come down to an absolute low but is now on the upswing. Come election time Rahul will have more popularity than Namo. So all this is maya onlee. That reminds me that till a few years back quite a few present day AAPtards used to like Rahul as exemplified by "liking" his page on FB etc.

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Postby Hari Seldon » 06 Mar 2014 21:50

praveen patil at 5forty3 shows an interesting chart - where he dissects the 'Rahul for PM' votaries. Seems 3/4ths of those who say they prefer Rahul (to Modi) for PM are mainorities.
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The whole Q of how Cong intends to ride on mainority votes alone all the way remains to be seen - the extent of appeasement in UP and k'taka for instance, staggers credibility.

almost 3 quarters of those who want Rahul Gandhi as the next PM belong to the minority community. This tells us a story of how Congress is losing the support of all other ethnic groups and is becoming an exclusively Muslim-minority centric party. As we have seen just a couple of months ago in Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh, a purely Muslim vote-bank will not be able to convert votes into seats.


If indeed NM and team pull off their dream situ of a 'united Hindu spectrum' vote (something that only RJB came ever close to doing in the northern heartland), then far too many delusions, deludeds and careers will be broken. Only.

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Postby fanne » 06 Mar 2014 22:28

Since last election 50% of votes con get is 'minority'. Out of total of 28% vote they got, over 50% of that was minority.

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Postby Singha » 07 Mar 2014 06:58

should change their name INC to IMC - indian mainority congress.

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Postby subhamoy.das » 07 Mar 2014 08:03

Singha wrote:congi % is nearly even across the bands. BJP gradually declines for older.
so what is the nearly 40% of older going for - AAP :eek: Loh Purush :double eek: ?


clear indication that they are a dole based party. As ur age increases, u tend to look more for dole rather than job!


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Postby apoorv » 07 Mar 2014 10:59

Madhu Kishwar on twitter is saying that Jaitley is trying to sabotage Modi's chance. He deliberately chose wrong candidates in Jammu. Also Jaitley, Sushma etc are delaying candidate selection. But all rumors must be taken with a pinch of salt.

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Postby Atri » 07 Mar 2014 11:50

ok.. which states are jaitley, swaraj, anant kumar, naidu, advani et al responsible for? do they select OR recommend the candidates in the regions they are prabhari of?

it is very smart of NM to give regions like J&K to jaitley.

UP (45)-MP(25)-BH(25)-RJ(22)-CG(10)-MH(19)-KN(14)-GJ(22)-JH(10) are the powerhouses of BJP. BJP has potential of winning 190-200 odd seats from these states itself. The candidate selection in these states should be firmly in hands of NM/RSS non-delhi lobby.

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Postby apoorv » 07 Mar 2014 11:59

Not sure how much influence these people will have. But the BJP CMs and Amit Shah will most probably make sure these people don't succeed in stopping Modi from coming to Delhi.


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