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Vipin_Upadhyay wrote:Election Commission "squad" checked NaMo helicopter as soon as it landed in Salem and found nothing.

These days I don't trust any Sampath/Sonia appointed officials. Hope NaMo security personnel sanitize every officials before letting them "search" whatever they are searching for, doesn't matter if they are from ECI or President's office.

Exactly.
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Just in time for the 17th... converted two votes from Cong to NaMo in Bangalore south. However two more potential votes wasted - they haven't received their Voter ID cards.
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You don't need a voter id to vote. If your name is in the voter list(check in the respective state's electoral office) then you can vote with any govt provided id card such as driving license, ration card passport etc.
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amol wrote:Just in time for the 17th... converted two votes from Cong to NaMo in Bangalore south. However two more potential votes wasted - they haven't received their Voter ID cards.
Amolji ,
probably you already know this but Voter ID card is not necessary as long as their name is in the voter list. My name is in the Voter List but i do not have Voter ID card.
There are several photo ID documents one can carry in lieu of Voter ID card , all listed on the ceokarnataka site
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on the primary note on renaming things - rajiv gandhi haspathaal service needs serious look!

name after some senior most dakkus in the neighborhood who helped the local community.
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ShankarCag wrote:You do not want to name the airport of your country, which is often the first stop for visitors from outside India, say Chinese, Japanese, Americans to be named after someone who lost a war. In that respect IGI is an awesome name since she had the cojones to take on the Anglo-Saxon-Jewish world mafia and liberate Bangladesh from Napakistan.
However I am all for renaming Hyderabad Airport after PVNR.
Prithviraj Chauhan built the first city of Delhi (Lal Kot). He was Delhi's founder. He died defending Delhi right to the end -- he got defeated not by valour but by the cunning lies of the invader, the same invader who had to escape with his life from Prithviraj Chauhan the year before, carried away unconscious by soldiers. The ballads of Prithviraj's bravery are still sung in the villages of Delhi. Is that not good enough? Was Major Shaitan Singh a loser because he died defending Rezang La and couldn't defeat the Chinese?
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History can be cruel Sanjayji. That is why a strongman/strongwoman like IG gets more respect than Prithviraj Chauhan.
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^^^ Don't tell this to anyone in Rajasthan or Delhi villages, or they will tell you what you can do with IG.
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"IG gets more respect than Prithviraj Chauhan"

^^ Says who? I have grown up hearing stories about Prithviraj Chauhan & Maharana Pratap.
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I don't think this is the appropriate thread for this. Nevertheless it does matter that IG birthed a new nation that cocked a snook at the current set of world powers. Prithviraj Chauhan, despite his brave efforts, lost a war after which we had 800 years of foreign rule. I repeat, history is cruel. That's not to say that your feelings for Prithviraj Chauhan are foolish or naive but success does count for something.
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Modi's ANI interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4f97iBK ... Ge7IlOgCKe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXK242AV ... Ge7IlOgCKe

No change in NFU, but there will be some changes.
We want to be militarily strong for defensive purposes.
Will deal with US in Indian national interest, not based on what they did to me.
Pakistan, China will be dealt with Indian interests in mind.
Article 370, status of PoK
Did Sonia ever wear skull cap?
Wide ranging interview, best to date.
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I posted a reply to human garbage Priyamvada Gopal

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... mentpage=1

Here is my response:
ID5929985
ID5929985
I had a chance to watch 2 interviews of Modi last 2 days and also a speech by Sonia Gandhi.
I came out with very little respect for the author Priyamvada.
After reviewing all things said, Modi has every idea right: Institutions,Development and Governance.
Gandhi has 2 words repeated 100 times: Communalism,Secularism
This is the how India has been governed. The low creativity and IQ of Gandhis destroyed India: Incompetence,Inefficiency,Corruption and Appeasement which are the 4 pillars of Domestic and Foreign Gandhis.
The intellectual crowd create 1000 word articles repeatedly by mixing up words : RSS,Fascist,Muslim,riot,2002,Hindutva. Keep repeating same words mixed with a lot of venom and hatred. Boom! Make the case for Gandhis. Now the Gandhis take it as Bible and repeat it.
But fortunately young and aspirational classes have caught up to this game of looting class. They are resisting. That bothers intellectuals whose whole last 10 years has been spent of bashing Modi, collecting funds/awards from Gandhis and agencies worldwide.
I think once Modi completes his first term even Muslims will realize the game of these glory seeking intellectuals like Priyamvada e.g. Muslims in Gujarat.
Oh Boy! Wouldn't that be fun to watch?
Please go and add some Recommendations to it.
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Wow she got her head handed to her in the comments section. Incredible.
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MediaCrooks ‏@mediacrooks 2h

Congress must have begged SachinT at least a 100 times to appeal to people to vote for them... but I think ST knows the writing on the wall
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The Fraudian dot com should we say?
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Modi: Why Western media still doesn’t get it

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.co ... n-t-get-it
What drives such journalism, much of it drivel? Why does Modi provoke such intolerance in the “liberal” Western media?

It can’t be the 2002 riots. There have been a dozen serious ones since 2002 outside Gujarat to which the Western media has paid scarce attention.

It can’t be piety for the suffering of the Gujarati victims 12 years ago. The suffering of more recent victims of the Muzaffarnagar riots too has drawn minimal interest from the Western media.

It can’t even be ideological. A business-friendly Modi government is on the wishlist of the corporate groups that control most media companies in the West – from Rupert Murdoch downwards.

The answer is largely cultural – Modi doesn’t fit in. He’s neither a clubby sort whose mind Western journalists can pick over Darjeeling tea nor a jokey regional leader who craves Western attention and can be mocked behind his back.

Modi regards the Western media – not all of it but some of it – with the same contempt it reserves for him. He gives them minimal access. He does them no favours. He asks for no editorial favours in return.

The contrast with the Western media’s coverage of the Congress is stark. Its 10-year tenure, laced with serial UPA scams, is lightly treated. Robert Mugabe and Hugo Chavez have been excoriated for years but the Gandhi dynasty – including the suddenly wealthy Robert Vadra – is treated with kid gloves. {Why wouldn't they treat their agents with kid glove hanji?}

No hard questions are asked by the Western media about Vadra’s land deals. No probing stories are written on Sonia or Rahul’s secretive trips abroad. Ten years of the UPA and not one serious investigative story on the corruption, nepotism and feudal politics of the Congress has sprung from the West’s otherwise combative print and TV media.

That’s absentee journalism.

Why might this be so? The Western media is disproportionately influenced by India’s “liberal” establishment comprising a left-leaning clutch of academics, journalists, NGOs and activists. This motley crew too rarely gets outraged over the UPA government’s corruption or farmer suicides in Congress-governed states like Maharashtra and Andhra Pradesh. It reserves its anger – transmitted to sympathetic global ears – for the “danger” Modi poses to Indian democracy.

A recent letter in The Guardian, signed by a group that included Salman Rushdie, warned Indians that a Modi victory “would bode ill for India”. On cue, a clutch of Bollywood B-listers issued a statement urging people to vote for a “secular government”.

I was on a TimesNow TV panel debate in September 2012 with then Delhi bureau chief of The Washington Post, Simon Denyer. The anchor, Arnab Goswami, asked Denyer about Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s silence on various UPA scams. Denyer had recently written about these in the The Washington Post. The article was basic. It “regurgitated” – as I remarked on the programme – “what we in India had been writing for over a year.” Yet it rightly cast the spotlight on the damaging duality of power between the government and the Congress.

Denyer and the Post are exceptions to the rule among the flood of unbalanced articles on India that have appeared in the Western media. As Denyer said on TV that evening, his piece in the Post tried to be even-handed but it was, after all, catering to an audience with little knowledge of Indian politics.

One US news outlet, The Daily Caller, though got it dead right. In a recent article titled Is India About To Elect Its Reagan? David Cohen wrote:

Like the US, India has cultural elitists who seem to desperately crave the approval of their former colonial masters in Europe. The Indian cultural elite despises Modi every bit as much as the American cultural elite despised (Ronald) Reagan. They look down their noses at Modi, cringing at the thought of being led by a common tea seller who can barely speak English. (Can you imagine Chinese or Russian citizens, proud of their own heritage, being ashamed that their leaders don’t speak English?)

“Modi promises to take a tough stand against Pakistan-sponsored terrorism. In this regard, Americans would do well to remember that the Islamists are not fighting against the ‘West’. Islamists are fighting against all non-Islamic societies. India is very much on the front lines of what we used to call the War on Terror, before our leaders lost the nerve to name it. Modi with his assertive posture against Pakistan – reminiscent of Reagan’s stance against the Soviet Union – should be a valuable natural ally.”

Read the entire article here. It debunks several key issues of the 2014 Lok Sabha election, including communalism, secularism and the 2002 riots, while highlighting Modi’s Reaganesque free market economic policy.

As we approach the electoral denouement on May 16, the West and its intellectually challenged cronies in India will need to replace the prism through which they view India. Their credibility – the only currency they possess – will otherwise stand greatly devalued.
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Published on Apr 17, 2014
Visa ban will not cloud relations with US, Modi says: Times of India
NEW DELHI: BJP's prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi has said that he will not let the US decision to deny him visa affect bilateral ties.

"A country's relations are not determined by what happens or happened with an individual," Modi told ANI when asked about the possibility of the visa issue casting a shadow on ties with the US under an NDA regime and the speculation that the Barack Obama administration had already made a placatory gesture to him by removing Nancy Powell as the ambassador to India.

The PM nominee also denied that he would pursue a confrontational approach towards Pakistan. "Confrontation is not the direction that Indian foreign policy should walk on. We all need to live with dignity," he said.

Modi brushed aside the commentaries in international media that he would follow a muscular foreign policy. "How can such an assessment be made about a man who has not done this work before," he said.
Always show a friendly face!
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sivab wrote:Modi's ANI interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4f97iBK ... Ge7IlOgCKe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXK242AV ... Ge7IlOgCKe

No change in NFU, but there will be some changes.
We want to be militarily strong for defensive purposes.
Will deal with US in Indian national interest, not based on what they did to me.
Pakistan, China will be dealt with Indian interests in mind.
Article 370, status of PoK
Did Sonia ever wear skull cap?
Wide ranging interview, best to date.
Thanks for these links.

I got three feelings watching that interview.

1/ Anger - How screwed up our Media has become, including this ANI person.
2/ Sad - How defeatist the national discourse has become. India shouldnt be assertive, strong, confident and wealthy just because it upsets/unsettles other nations.
3/ Motivation - The amount of work that needs to be done and the opportunity to be part of this Dharmic project.
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Delhi's favour-driven culture will get a big shock from Modi
Modi is a master of convergence. By his ability to converge and add new features to a non-star idea, he is able to sell it. Like how he has turned Kutch into a tourist destination by selling the salt desert of the Rann as a flat snow desert of the night and roping in Amitabh Bachchan to sell it.'

'In one stroke this has ensured economic returns to the people and on the other hand it has taken care of the national security angle in the sense that the border population in the Rann, which is almost entirely Muslim, is feeling better as now they are much more connected with the mainstream.'

Ahead of the launch of his book on the much-debated Modi model of governance, journalist Uday Mahurkar speaks to Rediff.com's Sheela Bhatt.

Centrestage: Inside the Narendra Modi Model of Governance, a book written by senior journalist Uday Mahurkar, will release this week.

While not deviating from the book's main theme, which is Modi's administration, governance and development vision, Mahurkar -- who has been reporting on Gujarat for more than two decades -- has also included areas where Modi has missed and what he means for India.

"The anecdotes and interesting information about Modi are based on my experiences with him over a period of 27 years, but a majority I have listed are largely from the period after he became chief minister," says Mahurkar.
How will you describe the Gujarat model?

The Gujarat model is about growth through good governance that benefits all classes of people. And it is based on a sense of national pride based on the past achievements of society and the nation.

Most other models so far have been based on the injuries suffered by one group or the other in the past.

This can't create pride, and so these models are foundations of vote-bank politics. My book brings out this fact lucidly and with very strong evidence.

The Modi model aims at bringing out the latent energy present in every individual by creating a sense of pride and linking that energy to the development of society and the nation.

It is the only model in India that is free from vote-bank politics, which means spending more development money on those who have larger votes for the ruler rather than uniformly.

It is against blanket subsidies and aims at enabling the poor and the common man to stand on their feet rather than 'helping' them, by putting them through skill development and other measures.

But at the same time it doesn't reject subsidy altogether but uses it as a tool in areas like health and education, where the poor need it genuinely.

The biggest thing about the Modi model is the basic commitment to good governance which shows in every sector. Of course, there are grey areas in it like in any other model, but here too what separates this model from others is that there is no slackness on the part of the rulers in tackling the weak areas.

I think Modi has a lot of evidence to show when he says good governance is good politics for him.

Significantly, the Gujarat model is about tackling a problem in mission mode form. This means taking the bull by its horns with messianic zeal.
Why is Gujarat so pathetic in social indicators?

If one goes deep into this area, the term 'pathetic' doesn't stick even while appreciating there are some problems.

For example, Gujarat is blamed for being poor in infant mortality rate (IMR) and mother mortality rate (MMR). But these two indicators should always be seen in terms of the tribal population.

Where the tribal population is high, as in Gujarat, the IMR and MMR are always high.

This is because tribals don't live in a community but in far-flung areas even within a village and so making medical service available to them is that much more difficult.

Plus, Gujarat's IMR has come down to 38 from 60 in 2002. And it is far better than most other tribal states like Rajasthan, MP, Odisha and Chhattisgarh.

On the flipside, many other social indicators in the health sector are extremely good. For example, the state government's U N Mehta Institute of Cardiology, the place where poor people's heart treatment is done, has seen its budget soaring to over Rs 70 crores (Rs 700 million)from just Rs 2 crores (Rs 20 million) in 2001.

The institute has been doing over 1,200 heart surgeries of school and college students free of charge every year under a special scheme.

The figures show that Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, New Delhi and Haryana have fared well in the last 10 years and in most ways better than Gujarat. Do you agree?

I don't agree. Haryana and Delhi are very small states, so the comparison is unjustifiable.

Let us take Maharashtra and Tamil Nadu here. Also note, an exact comparison between any two states is not always fair.

Take, for example, the collection of Value Added Tax. On paper, Gujarat is behind Maharashtra and Tamil Nadu, but if you compare the size of the three states and deduct the income from liquor earned by Maharashtra and Tamil Nadu (Gujarat has prohibition), then Gujarat is better than the two states.

So going into figures is often misleading. I would say Gujarat is quite ahead in the quality of governance than the two states in most areas.

One area I can recall in which Tamil Nadu is better than Gujarat is potable water supply. Gujarat has some problems in the area of rural sanitation, but there might be social reasons behind it.

Availability of government doctors is one more area where Gujarat has some problems but here again the reasons are peculiar to the state. But what is more, there is no slackness on the Modi's government's part in grappling with these problems.

Gujarat was always a dynamic state. So what's Modi's precise contribution?

This whole thing about Gujarat being a dynamic state is to an extent a misnomer. Gujarat was a well-governed state till the early 1980s and the quality of governance started deteriorating in the mid-1980s.

By 1991 Gujarat became a revenue deficit state for the first time since its inception in 1960.

Then, in 1991, started the phase of political instability in Gujarat which remained till 1998, when the Keshubhai Patel-led BJP government took over. During this phase, governance in Gujarat took a nosedive.

Keshubhai did try to set things in order, but then the earthquake struck Gujarat in 2001, dealing it a big economic blow. So, when Modi took over in October 2001, Gujarat was in a bad shape.

If you compare the situation as it existed in 2001, then Gujarat under Modi has done well or very well in almost all sectors and has in the process set some sterling examples.
For example, Gujarat became a revenue surplus state for the first time in 2006 since 1991, which is an indication of fiscal consolidation under Modi.

The latest GSDP growth figures show that Gujarat has recorded a growth of over 12 per cent between 2007 and 2012. This is a clear indication that the state is reaping the benefits of Modi's leadership and the strong foundation of governance he laid between 2003 and 2007, particularly in key areas in like power, agriculture, e-governance and finance management and also manufacturing.


What are the specific characteristics of the Modi model of governance? How does it differ from, say, the Tamil Nadu or Maharashtra model?

There are a series of characteristics that depict the wide difference in the quality of governance, vision and even implementation. Let's take one example.

In Maharashtra and Tamil Nadu, the power sector is an instrument of political trading in which it is used to appease powerful voting groups.

In Gujarat it is a symbol of good governance with the Gujarat electricity Board (GEB, which is now Gujarat Urja Vikas Nigam Ltd, GUVNL), wiping out an accumulated loss of Rs 2,500 crores (Rs 25 million, which it suffered in 2003) and is now making a profit of over Rs 550 crores (Rs 5.5 billion) every year.

In Gujarat Modi went after power theft for good governance, risking the antipathy of the farmers on the eve of the 2007 state polls and ultimately taught them not to steal and made them realise that they were beneficiaries of not stealing as it ensured them quality power.

In Maharashtra as well as Tamil Nadu, attempts are routinely made to woo farmers by promising them sops in the power sector.

In Maharashtra and Tamil Nadu, state PSUs are treated as political fiefdoms for making political obligations. In Gujarat these are largely treated as professional companies with practically no or little political interference.

Even in core governance the two states appear to be behind Gujarat in most areas. E-governance in Gujarat has reached the last village with schemes like e-gram Vishwagram and e-Jamin which is not the case in the two states.

Here we should compare Modi with other chief ministers in India so far. Most good chief ministers are known in history for one or two achievements. For example, M G Ramachandran is remembered for the midday meal scheme.

But Modi will be remembered for a series of sterling governance initiatives, many of which, like the Jyotirgram scheme, which gives 24 hour, three-phase domestic power supply to all the 18,000 state villages, will be remembered in history for long.

I felt that even the biggest donor to the BJP's political coffers under Modi's leadership can't extract marked favours from him. He can at the most hope for better treatment. I think Modi has largely stuck to policy-driven governance.

Should he come to Delhi, the capital's favour-driven power structure will get a big shock.

Delhi's culture, based on 'personal setting', could get a jolt.

Here I am not saying everything is hunky-dory in this area in Gujarat. There might be grey areas. I am only sharing the impression I carry.

Plus, you can't forget the coming of Tata's Nano to Sanand has made Gujarat one of the biggest auto hubs of India with Ford, Maruti and others following suit. Same with Adani's Mundra zone. These have created unimaginable job opportunities.

Why does the Modi model of governance seem to be more pro-middle class and rich but not at all identified with poor people?

After writing this book I can't share your view. Gujarat's per capita income has gone up by five times since 2002, and on the other hand the poverty levels have come down significantly along with unemployment levels.

Since Modi took over, the Below Poverty Line population has come down by half and unemployment in the state stands at one per cent, the lowest in India.

The ratio of development expenditure to non-development expenditure has improved considerably, thus showing much more is being spent on development than on non-development areas.

Schemes like Vanbandhu have sharply improved the economic conditions and the standard of living of tribals in tribal areas.

In fact, NGOs say Vanbandhu should be made the flagship scheme for tribal development in India because it is a game-changer scheme.

Give us some insights into and anecdotes from Modi's style of governance.

The biggest facet about Modi is that he is a master of convergence. By his ability to converge and add new features to a non-star idea, he is able to sell it.

Like how he has turned Kutch into a great tourist destination by selling the salt desert of the Rann as a flat snow desert of the night and roping in Amitabh Bachchan to sell it.

In one stroke this has ensured economic returns to the people and on the other hand it has taken care of the national security angle in the sense that the border population in the Rann, which is almost entirely Muslim, is feeling better as now they are much more connected with the mainstream against the designs of our neighbouring country.

Then let us look at his unique experiment of celebrating every Independence Day and Republic Day in a state headquarters every year.

Each such celebration is accompanied by three things -- a cultural programme based on the history of the district, thus creating a sense of pride in them, linking this pride to the development process, and an effort to implement already sanctioned development schemes in the district in a focused manner, using the occasion to get the best results.

Such an experiment at the national level has the power to unite the nation by bringing down separatist feelings by creating a feeling of oneness.
Just imagine the National Day being celebrated in Guwahati or Imphal.


If this happens, it is bound to create a sense of true oneness and bring separatist groups into the mainstream.
I think people who are trying to convince parents,uncles,sisters... Make them read this all.
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RamaY wrote:
I got three feelings watching that interview.

1/ Anger - How screwed up our Media has become, including this ANI person.
2/ Sad - How defeatist the national discourse has become. India shouldnt be assertive, strong, confident and wealthy just because it upsets/unsettles other nations.
3/ Motivation - The amount of work that needs to be done and the opportunity to be part of this Dharmic project.
Thanks for outlining your feelings (and imho lucidly and to the point)., for the same points here is my feelings correlated:

1/Contempt - I have negative respect for media in general
2/Anger - Anger at the very defeatist attitude.
3/Sanguine - A lot needs to be done. Just hope everybody gets sadbuddhi!
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Your comments have been removed by the moderator at guardian

vivek.rao wrote:I posted a reply to human garbage Priyamvada Gopal

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... mentpage=1

Here is my response:
ID5929985
ID5929985
I had a chance to watch 2 interviews of Modi last 2 days and also a speech by Sonia Gandhi.
I came out with very little respect for the author Priyamvada.
After reviewing all things said, Modi has every idea right: Institutions,Development and Governance.
Gandhi has 2 words repeated 100 times: Communalism,Secularism
This is the how India has been governed. The low creativity and IQ of Gandhis destroyed India: Incompetence,Inefficiency,Corruption and Appeasement which are the 4 pillars of Domestic and Foreign Gandhis.
The intellectual crowd create 1000 word articles repeatedly by mixing up words : RSS,Fascist,Muslim,riot,2002,Hindutva. Keep repeating same words mixed with a lot of venom and hatred. Boom! Make the case for Gandhis. Now the Gandhis take it as Bible and repeat it.
But fortunately young and aspirational classes have caught up to this game of looting class. They are resisting. That bothers intellectuals whose whole last 10 years has been spent of bashing Modi, collecting funds/awards from Gandhis and agencies worldwide.
I think once Modi completes his first term even Muslims will realize the game of these glory seeking intellectuals like Priyamvada e.g. Muslims in Gujarat.
Oh Boy! Wouldn't that be fun to watch?
Please go and add some Recommendations to it.
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^^ Yep scums. I don't see anything abuseive in that. But scums can't stand any thing logical
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it is just so refreshing to see a leader not being a 'oatta vaai' (running mouth?) when it comes to foreign relations.
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those 12 years of constant demonization strengthened this man thanks to his willpower and self belief. otoh pappu and the media flunkeys just took things for granted.

i do hope he cleans up the NGO-media- religious leader nexus as well.
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Sheela butt's madrasa math:
In Gujarat it is a symbol of good governance with the Gujarat electricity Board (GEB, which is now Gujarat Urja Vikas Nigam Ltd, GUVNL), wiping out an accumulated loss of Rs 2,500 crores (Rs 25 million, which it suffered in 2003) and is now making a profit of over Rs 550 crores (Rs 5.5 billion) every year.
Loss of rs 2500 cr = Rs 25 million
Profit of 550 cr = 5.5 billion?
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time to kick out the aaptahatyavadis from dilli
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The ANI interview is a must watch. NaMo is a statesman that comes once in a century. Hope he stays healthy for a long while.
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Modi has laryngitis needs voice rest
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Karan M wrote:Wow she got her head handed to her in the comments section. Incredible.
Karan M: This is what I posted in reply to somebody claiming to be a minority (but most probably a Pakistani as some of the facts are wrong).
I am not sure whether you know or not BAT sells Dunhill, Rothmans, and 555s really cheap in India now that citizens of their home countries have wised up to the dangers of these cancer sticks. Some of these companies and their lackeys (so-called Janus faced "liberals") want to turn every tradition into a marketing and sales spectacle. Valentines day is not spared not even Chirstmas (Ms. Nivedita please note). in US Easter and Halloween are opportunities to sell candy which is harmful to children. Same with Scotch and other liquors which India imbibes in large quantities where as the Indian elites of south Bombay and Lutynes Delhi quaff clarets which are a tad healthier if you are inclined to be part of the lazy rich.
CM Modi is the Jeeves for MP Rahul Gandhi's Berty Wooster.
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In that ANi interview Modi said something close to my mind (I posted it before)

Setup fast track courts and get judgements within 1 yr for all cases. That will solve 50% of problems. By allowing cases to go for decades, the system is encouraging wrong doers.
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Yawn.

The surest sign that your opponent has lost the argument? S/he brings out the "nazi" bugbear...

History of Nazi Germany will be repeated if Modi becomes PM, says Chavan
After NCP chief Sharad Pawar, Maharashtra Chief Minister Prithviraj Chavan also compared BJP prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi with former German dictator Adolf Hitler. He said if Narendra Modi were to become the Prime Minister of the country, the history of Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler would be repeated.

Chavan was addressing a campaign rally for NCP's sitting MP from Thane, Sanjeev Naik, here this evening.

BJP would change the constitution if it came to power, Chavan claimed.

He also accused BJP of manipulating the media and reminded that in 2004 the party had claimed it would get a clear majority but it actually lost power.

The person whom the United States had refused to give the visa after Gujarat riots cannot become the Prime Minister, Chavan said.

Chavan claimed Maharashtra had in fact seen much more development than Modi's Gujarat.

Chavan also said Modi had virtually hijacked BJP and senior leaders such as Jaswant Singh and L K Advani had faced humiliation.

Later, talking to reporters, Chavan said Modi's refusal to apologise for 2002 Gujarat riots was a serious matter.

(With PTI inputs)
Thanks. More such mindless vitriol pls. These guys and their scaremongering has helped bring brand modi to where it is today.
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Just watched the whole interview. Amazing interview! He has more intellect and ideas than human garbage new traders who went to Columbia/Brown ...

The question about how he withstands all the criticism was wonderful. Tears rolled out of my eyes.
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I have a feeling that Modi has to crack whip and crush Ambanis,Bajajs and Jindals.
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Modi wave in India’s Pakistan

Naam Badlo Bhai: Toilet Mey Kyon Rehte Ho
While many Pakistanis are said to be apprehensive of Hindu nationalist and Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi’s projected win in the 2014 general election, there’s an inconspicuous village called Pakistan in India which will gladly welcome his victory, said a report published in The Times of India.Over 250 inhabitants, including more than 100 voters of the village called Pakistan, located in Bihar’s Purnea district are set to vote on April 24 for the Gujarat chief minister who has promised a tougher stance against Pakistan if he wins the election."We want Narendra Modi to become PM," said Hira Hembrum, a middle-aged villager.Steeped in poverty and deprived of basic facilities, other residents of the village echo her view. Another villager Haldu Mumu was quoted in the local media as saying that “people in Pakistan are keen to vote for BJP to see Modi as PM”.He said they wanted to see Modi in power in order to oppose what he said were neighbouring country Pakistan’s efforts to derail peace, adding that only this candidate could do it.
Government documents have recorded the name of the village as Pakistan.Elderly people in the village said it was named soon after the Partition.An elderly villager said Muslims, who lived in the village earlier, chose to relocate to Bangladesh after its secession from Pakistan, following which they decided to name the village in their memory. Notwithstanding the poverty and low literacy rate in Purnea, anti-Pakistan sentiment runs deep in the village. Mumu was recounted as saying that in the wake of 26/11, the inhabitants of the village had considered changing its name.Villagers were in a celebratory mood – distributing sweets, singing songs and dancing – after the sentencing of Ajmal Kasab, the lone Pakistani survivor of the Mumbai 2008 attacks, he added.Interestingly, in 2012, Chief Minister Nitish Kumar had informed a visiting Pakistani delegation in India that there was a village named after their country.The astounded delegates told Kumar that they were unaware of this village, upon which he showed the map of Purnea and explained that when Muslim residents relocated to Bangladesh, the villagers had decided to name it “Pakistan” as a tribute to their memory.
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pankajs wrote:New Delhi: The 60-day long raid and survey by the IT department on alleged Hawala operator and meat exporter Moin Qureshi ended Tuesday exposing links with cabinet ministers and a political leader allegedly very close to 10 Janpath.
Nasty critter. I think the word Qureshi itself means a butcher. Most likely Kapil 'Kasai' Sibal is involved in this dirty racket too.
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Hari Seldon wrote:Yawn.

The surest sign that your opponent has lost the argument? S/he brings out the "nazi" bugbear...

History of Nazi Germany will be repeated if Modi becomes PM, says Chavan
The person whom the United States had refused to give the visa after Gujarat riots cannot become the Prime Minister, Chavan said.
:rotfl: Does that idiot Chavan even realize what he is implying? So now only those people whom the US grants visas are eligble to become India's PM?? I didn't know that our worthy Congress leaders have outsourced the onerous task of deciding India's leaders to the US consular authorities! Not to mention he considers India's Supreme Court to have a stature lower than the US State Department. With "leaders" like these in power who are willing to sell their country for personal gain, no wonder India is in the pig sty. :roll:
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vivek.rao wrote:I have a feeling that Modi has to crack whip and crush Ambanis,Bajajs and Jindals.
I was talking to some AAPTard the other day on this topic of big bad businesses.

What is the way out?

Should we nationalize the industry? We have seen the effects and waste of that strategy. Projects runing for decades, production inefficiencies, lack of consumer awareness and so on..

How is it in India we import about $300b industrial products per yr manufactured by even more bad industrial giants?

Let's take Reliance petrochemicals. Is it a net +ve or -ve to nation with all its refinery technology, products, employment, forex savings (it exports lot of refined products), stockholder wealth and so on?

What is the alternative to the so-called industrial/economic progress? Hindu rate of backwardness?

Why can't India have its own Jagat Sets, Rothshields, Rokerfillers who can help India become an industrial and military giant that can in its worst form cause genocide of Anglo-Saxon world?

Or is the right to genocide is reserved for Anglo-Saxon world?
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I just hope Modi does not become an Ombaba. So much hope, so much aspiration and literally nothing to show for it after the election (other than a miserable ACA).

EDIT: I am sure Modi is capable, but our expectations should be more calibrated towards what he can do right now. The real fix might take a few more election cycles and it may or maynot be Modiji that carries it out.
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