Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 18 Apr 2014 05:48

I predict 65-72 seats for BJP in 5th round.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 18 Apr 2014 06:47

ramay ie, like saying narrow margin for the 5th round

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 18 Apr 2014 06:49

A friend of mine called NPR radio in us to protest against blatant lies propagated against Modi on ashow this morning. The 1st question the NPR guy asked her was are u a Gujarati? She told them she was a Southie and gave them an earful on how much US was scared of a democratically elected leader and the hypocrisy. She said she was sorry for the NPR guys / Americans on their ignorance. She finished by saying Ab ki baar Modi sarkaar.
It was aired this morning live on NPR.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 18 Apr 2014 07:20

search for heard it on NPR.. might be available to hear later.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 18 Apr 2014 07:20

^^Which radio show was it? Diane Rehm?

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 18 Apr 2014 07:37

any info on the show's host should be helpful in Google searches, please! Thanks in advance

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 18 Apr 2014 08:04

RamaY wrote:Imagine the uproar if Modi reminded the idiot Media that Bharatiyata means those Hindu pantheon of Avataras, Durga, Kali etc., and how Bharatiyata truly means standing for Dharma and destroying Adharma even with violence when the opposition demands for it and so on

Pls see pictures of Modifesto of dec-2012 gujarat assembly and Modifesto of may-2014 loksabha elections. In dec-2012, color of lotus was orange, while now color of lotus is ALWAYS white and never orange. I am just a chugalkhor aka messenger who tells all what I see. Conclusions are all yours. My conclusions are --- when a company is taken over by another giant company, the smaller company has to sometimes make changes in logo etc. So may be,

1) In jan-2014, by showing threat of AK-420, MNC_owners took over BJP
2) the Pope and the head of Episcopal Church and head of Southern Baptists etc asked MNC-owners to ask BJP-apex to change the color of lotus to white
3) MNC-owners respected the wishes of Pope etc and asked BJP-apex to change color of lotus to white
4)BJP-apex respected the wishes of new owners

If this theory doesnt suit you, pls post your theory to whole public as your facebook status on why BJP lotus is now white.

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Indian polity is at its lowest since 1947. Never has been a time, where each and every hope is pinned on just one leader ONLY, and all supporters assume that that leader will do what the supporter wishes. And there are OPEN and CLEAR signs that that leaders base is 100% compromised and hijacked by foreigners, and supporters are scared of even seeing, lest their balloon of hopes will get pricked. There is NO plan, and there is only hope. And hope so powerful than there supporters feel no need for plan. And supporters also realize that mere talk of plan can prick the balloon of hope. And so there is determined effort to oppose all legal proposals to fix India.

But then, someone has to pay media to keep all ugly questions out. eg did any paid-mediamen raised the question "how many passouts of Ahmedabad Municipal Schools cleared 12th class exams in past 10 years in Gujarat"? NO. (FYI, answer is : zero). Because they got paid for NOT asking this question. And payment is --- dont impose taxes on FDI's profits i.e. continue "gora will pay no tax, desi will pay all taxes" policy ; change color of lotus from saffron to white ; support FDI in defense so that MNC-owners can easily put trojans in all complex weapons etc etc.

Nationalists have lost this election. Earlier they realize, better.

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Power vs Position

NaMo will only get position and not power. Position creates illuison of power and tempts honest men that he can make changes, but power is different from position. Position may make a person stronger on the weak, but position NEVER ever ever makes a person stronger against strong. IOW, position of PM may be useful in impressing a 2-bit common, but is useless against Rockefellar etc. What counts there is power, and power will exist ONLY if nation is strong.

USA is strong NOT because it has strong elitemen like Rothschilde and Rockefellars. It is because USA has many strong commons. The commons are strong because law-drafts they have and NOT because of tall leaders they have. The commons in India are weak, and will remain weak no matter which taller leader becomes PM and how tall his image is. By opposing good law-drafts for past 60 years and more so in past 5 years, and confining to neta-bhakti, the Nationalists have knowingly or unknowingly kept commons of India weak and weaker. And so nation is weak. So in weak nation, a tall leader can have only position, not power. The power will remain with the strong nation ONLY. No mercy, no exceptions.

So NaMo will be on driving seat of the car, which a remote control in it. The remote is with Rockefellar and Rothschilde aka USA-eleitemen aka MNC-owners. The toughest task mediamen and NaMo have in coming days is to create an illusion that NaMo is in control and NOT MNC-owners. Lets see if someone can explain the presence of remote control to all and break the myth of "independence of Indian elitemen and Indian polity".

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Added later:

The number of voters; count can be obtained from EC website. between 1999-2004, India added about 4.5 crore voters and between 2004-2009, India added 4 crore voters. And between 2009-2014, India added 8 crore voters !!! This is despite de-depublication done in past 5 years . If one does age group analysis of past 5 voter lists, I am sure, one may find anamolies. Possible reason can be Bangladeshi refugees and infiltrators. And I also want all to note that Congress, BJP and AAP leaders are silent on this issue and have not demanded any inquiry or not initiated any study.

Saral · Post by **Saral** » 18 Apr 2014 08:07

Wheres the thread starter? (Arjun)

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 18 Apr 2014 08:33

ramana wrote:Thanks to the long drawn out poll schedule this thread will hit 1000 pages!!!

I want to lock it on May15 and open a thread for election results.

I want ArmenT's program to be used to make this a pdf and let that be BRF Modi Nama available for download.

Ramana garu, my estimate is around 900 pages by May 15.

Why don't we keep this open for a month or so after results (by which time 1000 would be hit)- for BRF suggestions regarding his team, policies etc ? This was not actually intended to be restricted to being an elections thread. The results discussion can be kept separate from this thread.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 18 Apr 2014 08:47

Baba Ramdev Caught on tape talking black money

If this is true, then why is NDTV & IBN quite? Are they bought by BJP?
If it is fake, is DNA following NDTV foot steps?

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 18 Apr 2014 08:48

The NPR show is Right here Right now.
This lady has consistently fought with a school district on Aryan Invasion taught in schools and finally made desi kids present latest research articles on AIT. This lady made it into a science vs non-Science issue and handed a professional defeat to the school district.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 18 Apr 2014 08:55

we will most likely open a new thread for post elections for better separation.

after the celebrations/wailing whatever happens on may16...a few days more and this thread might be locked.

it might not even be archived btw

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 18 Apr 2014 08:55

Anantha wrote:The NPR show is Right here Right now.
This lady has consistently fought with a school district on Aryan Invasion taught in schools and finally made desi kids present latest research articles on AIT. This lady made it into a science vs non-Science issue and handed a professional defeat to the school district.

Link?

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 18 Apr 2014 09:12

Rahul Mehta wrote:Nationalists have lost this election. Earlier they realize, better.

Since all hope is lost, I suggest that you SMS your local MLA/MP for permission to secede from the Indian Union (citing the right to self-determination). Assuming you own some real estate, you will also have your own small country which you can run according to your wishes.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 18 Apr 2014 09:51

krisna wrote:^^^^
Reagrding Philip post, it is Devi shetty of NN fame in Benagaluru fame unless i am mistaken.
he has been talking nicely about NaMo and also admires him hugely.

Prof B M Hegde I think

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 18 Apr 2014 10:10

if JJ and KK rake up modi's martial status issue, he should question their own martial status. Does KK even disclose about his second wife and what income she earns ???

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 18 Apr 2014 10:13

transcripts for NM's last interviews? sorry if posted before, these pages are moving fast.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 18 Apr 2014 10:26

Rahul Mehta wrote:Nationalists have lost this election. Earlier they realize, better.

Quality of nationalists will improve with every election. Earlier we had ABV, now the first post Nehruvian - NaMo! That is why I likened NaMo to Hemu....or a Vishwamitra.

It will good if Namo created his own Trisanku Lutyens in Delhi by importing his own bureaucrats and IPS officials from Gujarat and NDA ruled states. That way his govt will not be at Mafia's mercy like ABV who had to make concessions.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 18 Apr 2014 10:30

Please not Hemu sir. It rings very bad. May be Chandra Gupta.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 18 Apr 2014 10:36

Firstpost ‏@firstpostin 2h

Vote for Sule or no water: Did Ajit Pawar threaten Baramati voters? http://dlvr.it/5QpksH

"Tomorrow there will be voting. If anybody from this village creates any trouble, I will end the water (supply) to the village. Supriya is getting lots of votes from all of Baramati, so votes from your village won’t change anything," a voice that is allegedly Pawar's is heard saying in the grainy video, which was allegedly shot at Masalwadi village in the constituency.

"My sister will neither win nor lose because of your votes. But I will come to know from the voting machine, and then I will tell these people that if you have so much arrogance, I can’t help you," the voice is heard saying.

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Amit Paranjape ‏@aparanjape 3h

About 2L names missing from voters' list: Pune police commissioner - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 874102.cms …

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 18 Apr 2014 10:47

Self Deleted.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 18 Apr 2014 10:51

New Indian Express ‏@NewIndianXpress 2h

Pack-up Mood Descends on Raisina Hill Babus - http://tnie.in/1jaYSRI

There is a deafening silence on Raisina Hill, where babus in South Block and North Block are going about their work at a snail’s pace anticipating a change of guard at the Centre after May 16, when the Lok Sabha election results will be out.

As the Lok Sabha polls are underway and all the top ministers are out campaigning in their states and constituencies, not much official work has been going on in South Block and North Block which house the top six ministries.

Except for usually internal communications and files pertaining to the vote-on-account passed by the 15th Lok Sabha in February are doing the rounds of the central secretariat’s corridors, according to bureaucrats.

“The ministries are preparing for a change in the government and are busy preparing the briefings for the new ministers, who may get sworn in after the May 16 results,” a senior bureaucrat said.

Congress leader A K Antony has already made up his mind that his tenure as the longest-serving Defence Minister will be over in May after a new government is voted in. In preparation for the end to his seven-year tenure, he has left all work at his office on the first floor of South Block pending.

As he was busy campaigning for party candidates in Kerala, no file that required his approval has moved an inch, according to senior officers in the Ministry of Defence.

Even the file on the appointment of the next Navy chief, in place of Admiral D K Joshi who quit on February 26 after a series of warship accidents, had been pending due to the government machinery grinding to a standstill, as the key ministers, who are part of the Appointments Committee of the Cabinet (ACC) headed by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, are out of town and busy in election work.

The Centre appointed Admiral Rabindra Kumar Dhowan as the next Navy chief, 50 days after Joshi had resigned. The ministry file for naming Dhowan the Navy chief had gone to the Prime Minister’s Office in the second week of March, but took about a month to return to the ministry for a formal announcement.

The appointment of several Army’s Majors General and Lieutenants General too is pending now. Similar promotions and appointments are also pending in the Air Force and Navy in equivalent ranks. One such important appointment is that of the Deputy Chief of Air Staff. The officer tipped to be appointed to the post is waiting for clearance, despite his promotion to the rank of an Air Marshal being okayed. The flip side is that such waiting officers may miss out on seniority if their appointment gets further delayed.

“Though the ministry’s recommendations on who should be appointed the next Navy chief went to the PMO a month ago, the file is pending approval, as the ministers are part of the ACC -- Home Minister Sushilkumar Shinde and Antony -- are away campaigning. The Defence Minister has just returned to Delhi from poll campaigning,” another bureaucrat said.

While South Block houses the Prime Minister’s Office, External Affairs Ministry and the Defence Ministry, North Block has the Ministry of Finance, Home Ministry and the Ministry of Personnel.

In the Ministry of Defence, only the work related to military operations is going on unhindered. The Indian Air Force had its commanders conference last week, while the Army is preparing to hold its commanders conference -- both are biannual events -- for five days beginning April 21.

Similarly, in North Block, the home ministry officials are waiting for the Home Minister to return after polls in his Solapur constituency are over on Thursday.

And Finance Minister P Chidambaram is busy campaigning in Tamil Nadu, particularly in his Sivaganga constituency, where his son Karti Chidambaram is contesting this time.

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 18 Apr 2014 10:52

iShiva ‏@iShivaa 59m
@mediacrooks Aakar Patel is the same Aakar Ahmed Patel earlier with Mid Day. Why hide his middle name, is he ashamed of being a muslim?!

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 18 Apr 2014 11:07

gist - A old woman named radhabhai pawar went in to vote. could not see a thing due to poor eyesight and general darkness in the voting room. she asked the polling officers to show her button for modi..

officer when asked her to press any button because he cannot interfere in secret ballot, the old woman asked again, there are many buttons here, where is modi's button..

later the officer allowed someone to accompany her so that she presses lotus.

Klaus · Post by **Klaus** » 18 Apr 2014 11:21

^^^ Easily solved if there is provision for a table-lamp next to the EVM, with diesel gensets & inverters on standby to provide back-up power.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 18 Apr 2014 11:24

Greater lighting doesn't necessarily help someone who is functionally blind, as the old lady might be. Kudos to her for her spirit.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 18 Apr 2014 11:27

that was wrong asking her to just press any button, what if everyone starts doing that

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 18 Apr 2014 11:43

More of the vision thing from NM:

>>FirstBiz ‏@FirstpostBiz 2m
CNBC Awaaz exclusive: Modi says railways can be India's growth engine, can link centre and states http://www.firstbiz.com/economy/modi-82585.html …

I recall NM in one of his early speeches (was it at SRCC?) mentioned that the railways could be used to boost pilgrimages throughgout the country - massive fillip to the tourism sector, to our crumbling pilgrim centers, to the railways themselves and so on. Just like he made the rann of kutch tourism gold by outta-box thinking, am hoping he'll do much for the rest of teh country too.

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 18 Apr 2014 13:07

Atri wrote: And no NaMo is different from Hemu.. Hemu, in spite of everything, was a coalition of Hindus and Pathans. Bajirao was riding solely on Hindu upsurge without any reliance on Muslims. This is what made all the difference in the end.

Maratha's cannons were managed by Muslims and later by French. The Maratha's were so hopelessly dependdent on Muslims, that even after capturing Delhi, they continued to let Delhi under Muslim kings and never officially claimed themselves as kings of delhi or emperor of whole India. In 1857 too, Maratha took Mogul as emperor of India, which forced Sikhs to side with British !!! In 1857 , cannons of Maratha were managed by French.

And NaMo is hopelessly dependent on MNC-owners and Missionaries for media as well as investments to create jobs. Which is why lotus color is now white and no more orange. The color of Lotus was orange in dec-2012 gujarat assembly elections,=. It became white sometime after Kejrival won Delhi elections.

Sorry for bad news. But I like to ruin the fun people are having while day dreaming by trying to wake them up.+

member_28173 · Post by **member_28173** » 18 Apr 2014 13:09

>Which is lotus color is now white and no more orange

Point taken. :p

Sidhant · Post by **Sidhant** » 18 Apr 2014 13:10

Rahul Mehta ji, so how will India break the shackles. What can we do about it?

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 18 Apr 2014 13:12

Maybe because the Lotus symbol on EVMs is white, not saffron/orange. Makes it easier for voters to associate with BJP when pressing the button in booth.

Earlier, I used to wonder why RM is so famous. Now I know.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 18 Apr 2014 13:13

vintage modi pic. circa 1992 @ lal chowk, Srinagar on R-day. With MMJ.

member_22539 · Post by **member_22539** » 18 Apr 2014 13:14

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/a-makeover-f ... 48-37.html

This is why he is wearing a white lotus. Who better to advertise the election symbol on the voting machine than Modi himself? If you haven't noticed yet, they are still using the same flags with the same saffron lotus. In fact, Modi's clothes were even color coordinated with the flag (saffron and green) during his last interview.

You really need to come up with better stuff than this.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 18 Apr 2014 13:17

Maheish Girri ‏@MaheishGirri 1h

What a brilliant interview by @narendramodi Ji to Sanjay Pugaliya on @CNBC_Awaaz! Such a clear vision on Economic & Administrative issues.

Link anyone?

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 18 Apr 2014 13:27

narendramodi_in ‏@narendramodi_in 1m
4 Ministers are involved with this Hawala network and even a leader close to 10 Janpath is involved: Narendra Modi

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 18 Apr 2014 13:35

The day this turd Mahesh Bhatt and his coterie perish, I will personally go to lord Siddhivinayaka temple and break a coconut.

The vermin was on Zee TV yet again bringing up 2002 riots and how bwood should be wary of NaMo. As if the ******** has any credibility left after his son's camaraderie with DCH.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 18 Apr 2014 14:06

I think M Bhatt has one and only one positive in my humble opinion: his daughter is a beauty.

Kjo asked Alia B,"whats the worst pick up line used on you?"
She said,"Is your father a terrorist, because you are a bomb"

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 18 Apr 2014 14:18

http://vivekagnihotri.wordpress.com/201 ... bollywood/
Salman khan's brother in law. Vivek agnihotri tears the secularism of Bollywood jokers

member_28108 · Post by **member_28108** » 18 Apr 2014 14:22

Atri wrote:

gist - A old woman named radhabhai pawar went in to vote. could not see a thing due to poor eyesight and general darkness in the voting room. she asked the polling officers to show her button for modi.. officer when asked her to press any button because he cannot interfere in secret ballot, the old woman asked again, there are many buttons here, where is modi's button..

later the officer allowed someone to accompany her so that she presses lotus.

When my Granny went to vote the poll officer told that if she needs help there is a process that can be done but I told him my Granny knows to read English and she cast her vote