Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

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Postby Singha » 09 May 2014 13:03

+72 sire. conflicts among non-native religions in their selected homelands should be none of our concern. shia-sunni fights, islam-vs-christanity, inter church christian fights for control, oppressive rulers in other lands going after their co-religionists...none of India's concern.

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Postby johneeG » 09 May 2014 13:11

Aryavarta wrote:Saawan bhaado basant bahaar
Abki baar modi sarkaar


end of heat waves of summer
its time for rejuvenating rainy shower
lets sing megh malhaar
abki baar Modi sarkaar

Vasantham antham
Varsha Kaalam arambham
Megha Sandhesham
Modi Raajyam

leftists karna chahthe hai sanskruth bhaasha ka sanhaar
kyunki unko dhesh se nahin hai pyaar
Sanskruth hai ajar aur amar
Sanskruth bhaasha ka karo prachaar
isse dhesh ka hoga uddhaar
abki baar Modi sarkaar

That Muslims in India have equal rights to others is one thing. But it's a bit of a stretch to think Muslims in other countries have the same rights as Dharmics in seeking refuge here. That is not required, neither constitutionally nor morally. WHen they have not taken the theka in their countries that Muslims and Dharmics have same rights, why do we give those very Muslims the same rights to refuge as Dharmics? Utter idiocy.


Nicely articulated, saar. Very nicely explained.

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Postby Arjun » 09 May 2014 13:16

"Pluralism", defined as Anti-exclusivism - should be identified as a core Indic or Bharatiya value. Only Persons of Indian Origin - subscribing to this value can be allowed to enter India as refugees.

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Postby James B » 09 May 2014 13:41

Pappu telling a man to join BJP when asked about roads. :rotfl:


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Postby vinod » 09 May 2014 13:46

While I'm generally suspicious of polls... here is one predicting Modi's big win.

Modi ahead in polls

I hope BJP don't get complacent in the final stages now.

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Postby vinod » 09 May 2014 13:47

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Postby sum » 09 May 2014 13:51

ex-editor US citizen chipping in with his 2 paisa:
Of Hindus and Hindutva: Modi’s PIO stumble on Times Now

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Postby Yogi_G » 09 May 2014 14:09

Hmm..as per India today poll, the Muslim vote for BJP in 2014 is more than that of 2009.

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Postby Hari Seldon » 09 May 2014 14:25

harbans wrote:That Muslims in India have equal rights to others is one thing. But it's a bit of a stretch to think Muslims in other countries have the same rights as Dharmics in seeking refuge here. That is not required, neither constitutionally nor morally. WHen they have not taken the theka in their countries that Muslims and Dharmics have same rights, why do we give those very Muslims the same rights to refuge as Dharmics? Utter idiocy.


Relax, saar. IMO, there's *nobody* in the sangh, in a future NM cabinet (and even here on BR) who disagrees with what you're saying.

Timing is everything. There's a time and place for transforming particular nuances into policy and framing it into law. I'm not overly worried about a Modi sarkar letting abraharmics (as opposed to dharmics) run riot over theonly homeland Hindus have in the world (discounting Bali, that is).

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Postby krishnan » 09 May 2014 14:27

from rediff

"If you spell Mamataji's name, you will find Ma-ma-ta. The first M is Mamata and the next M is Modi. A partnership is brewing," the Congress vice president said at a rally in Kolkata.
:rotfl:

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Postby panduranghari » 09 May 2014 14:39

a_bharat wrote:
hanumadu wrote:
Arnab asked shouldn't Modi, instead of criticizing Mamta, keep the doors open and Modi said that is what he was doing by attacking her and cannot explain more.

Somebody on BR actually mentioned that it was a friendly fight between Mamta and Modi.


Another possibility is to blackmail her the way Cong blackmails SP and BSP
(unleash CBI on Sarada chit fund scam etc.)


I am afraid but thats not good enough. She should be prosecuted like any other criminal if she is involved

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Postby Rahul M » 09 May 2014 14:40

harbans wrote:The point giving refuge to those under religious persecution has to be taken with a massive pinch of salt. Every Muslim in Pakistan or under Sharia or in Somalia is under religious persecution. Ahmedi's, Shia's are in 10's of millions. We cannot give shelter to those that chose a country created out of Indian soil on grounds they cannot coexist with Dharmics. That should NEVER happen. THe very foundation that Bangladesh and Pakistan were formed was that Muslims cannot coexist with Dharmics. Then how is it possible to allow those very Muslims who went and endorsed that to be allowed refugee status because not they cannot exist with other Muslims? Do we really want to screw our future. I think this point should be made blatantly clear. And if they shove the Secular card, time to remove Secular and insert the word Dharmic which should have been done in Jan 1951 itself.

there would be a body who would hear petitions for refugee status and decide. there would be no en masse import of any category.

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Postby James B » 09 May 2014 14:44

Rajdeep Sardesai is claiming on a business channel that NDA is reaching close to 272+. Remember, this guy has access to CSDS exit polls which are quite reliable. Today Market also gave a indication that NDA is indeed getting close to 272+.

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Postby a_bharat » 09 May 2014 14:47

How Kamal Nath, overambitious judge scuppered snoopgate panel

Home Minister Sushilkumar Shinde had reportedly been given a list of judges to pick from but all them, barring one, agreed to head the commission orally but refused to give it in writing, reported the Indian Express. The one judge who did reportedly consent through e-mail reportedly demanded facilities like a bungalow, staff, an official vehicle and office space, which was deemed unnecessary by the government.


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Postby RamaY » 09 May 2014 15:58

Singha wrote:+72 sire. conflicts among non-native religions in their selected homelands should be none of our concern. shia-sunni fights, islam-vs-christanity, inter church christian fights for control, oppressive rulers in other lands going after their co-religionists...none of India's concern.


GDji

That NaMo interview is beautiful onlee & no need to dhoti shiver.

The Yindoo-Muslaman-Isai issue is a multi dimensional problem and it needs multi-dimensional solution. Since the forum rules do not allow some solutions like genocide we can discuss the peaceful methods only.

When we talk of only peaceful solutions they will have to include posturing, policy, planning, practice and protection.

Arnab, with his line of kwechaning, he was representing secular-Abrahamism in the yindoo-garb. One cannot reveal all the plans to dhimmi media, especially well before the time of the idea.

Will write a blog post where I can freely express how all this can unravel.

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Postby Manish_Sharma » 09 May 2014 15:58

Singha wrote:over the years various holistic practioners like Dr Shiv and Dr JEM tried to eradicate the dhoti shiver rotavirus from the gastro-intestinal tract of BR, but it keeps mutating and has occasional outbreak.

so keeping a adult diaper and mop handy pays off here.


That's the beauty of shivering no diaper-shyper needed. Only Salwar-soiling needs diapers and mops: http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/.a/6a00d8341c2c7653ef011570ee9795970b-800wi

Actually after '04 and '09 its just a habit to shiver in jeans-bermudas-pantaloons :P

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Postby chaanakya » 09 May 2014 16:03

vinod wrote:While I'm generally suspicious of polls... here is one predicting Modi's big win.

Modi ahead in polls

I hope BJP don't get complacent in the final stages now.


With 41 seats in last poll day ( with 24 in UP and Bihar) BJP hardly seems to be complacent. In fact its poll fever appear to be reaching peak with everyone else including EC getting bad press. Some one has dispatched team to ascertain his caste , others are taking about his Mother and most of them are floored by His Non-Road Show in Varanasi. NaMo himself says he's been gagged by EC. he has new points to make in otherwise well rehearsed speeches.

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Postby chaanakya » 09 May 2014 16:09

IndraD wrote:At times I feel iview to Arnob was his inaam for frying Pappu

I hope you are not claiming that this was a fixed match between Dienasty Bootlicker and Dienasty A$$kicker.

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Postby member_28025 » 09 May 2014 16:13

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Postby chaanakya » 09 May 2014 16:17




Narendra Modi, on the other hand, has given so many interviews in the past and this was his last during the 2014 campaign. For me, it was a professional challenge as both of them were very different.


I hope he gives another interview to some Hindi News Channel to be telecast on 11th When this was supposed to be telecast and punctures his ego .

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Postby KLP Dubey » 09 May 2014 16:22

James B wrote:Rajdeep Sardesai is claiming on a business channel that NDA is reaching close to 272+. Remember, this guy has access to CSDS exit polls which are quite reliable. Today Market also gave a indication that NDA is indeed getting close to 272+.


Is that from the 8 phases already done, or includes a projection of phase 9 too ?

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Postby anmol » 09 May 2014 16:26

Anyone but the One
by Ritesh Uttamchandani, openthemagazine.com
May 10th 2014

Anyone-but-Modi is just another refrain that brings out the extent to which the singularity of this contest has gone. The mantra, uttered by those who have a pathological aversion to the man who could be the next Prime Minister and by those within his own political family whose ambition is as big as his but is not matched by their performance or popularity, may no longer be as audible as it was earlier. It is, nevertheless, a measure of how one man’s passion can galvanise as well as divide. It is also a manifestation of one trait of Indian politics that won’t be swept away by any wave: the sheer ease with which it abandons the mandate and settles on the least deserving, the darkest horse. Anyone-but-Modi, however feeble and unrealistic it may turn out in the end, is a response from the legion of the lost towards the inevitability of this election: No-one-but-Modi.

There were, of course, such moments before, when the choice of India was between the One and nothing. Most memorably, the One was Indira Gandhi once. There was no agenda more national than Mrs G, and there was no candidate who was an alternative to her. That was candidate as mother redeemer, larger than the party, and it was her emotional covenant with India that looked unbreakable then. It would be broken, and nothing would be as ruthless as the end of a relationship built on sentimentalism and adoration. But while it lasted, it was a rare relationship between the leader and the people that allowed no space for third parties. It was no-one- but-Indira.

The One is Modi now, and at this moment in Indian politics, as the poet would have said, the performer and the performance have become one. The performer, without a supporting cast and a worthy antagonist, is different from the One before. Biography is not his destiny. His evolutionary story as a politician is not part of a larger family saga with the Independence movement as a backdrop. Power and privilege, and growing up in history—that is not Modi’s backstory. He was not the Chosen One, and he won’t be. He is the Inevitable One. He came from outside the Establishment, from the ordinariness of India an Arvind Kejriwal has sloganised but never comprehended. Within his own party, he was not the Choice until he made himself inevitable—and indispensable. The outsider whose campaign, which began more than a decade ago from Gujarat, was about defying hierarchies within his own party and outside it. The velocity of the commoner’s ascent, like a force of nature, tells us that he is here to stay, ahead of the rest, for better or worse. This election is about him, as the others he has starred in before.

That is why India-is-not-Gujarat is a redundant line. For those who have watched Modi on the stump in the three elections he fought and won in Gujarat, it was obvious: He never fought a local election, and he never fought an election in which he was not the theme—the only national theme. He spoke India—its possibilities, its enemies, its diminished esteem— and exaggerated it for effect in successive Assembly elections, all referendums on his leadership. Today, the Modi campaign is a bigger version of it, and it is as presidential as the earlier three. For this man, there was no one else to build his mythology and market it; he had to do it all by himself. Rarely have such projects in political mythology become a national show of this magnitude. It is one man’s ambition—and the lone struggle for its realisation—as a national passion play.

And you just can’t alter the script by inserting this ridiculous line, anyone-but-Modi, at this stage, the denouement. Its ridiculousness is amplified by what is unsaid but implied. Who’s Anyone? Is it the wise old man of BJP, still floating in the fantasy of a compromise, a karmic reward for walking the longest distance for the cause of the Indian Right? Or, is it the warhorse from the heartland, the party boss and an active apostle of Moditva, waiting for something to go wrong after the victory, a mathematical error maybe? Or is it one of those leaders from the provinces, permanent bargainers in the post-election black markets of Indian politics? Any of these could have been a possible scenario in another time, in another India. It could have been possible if Modi was merely a prime ministerial candidate of BJP, as LK Advani was five years ago. Today the truth is: BJP just happens to be the party of Modi. It is not that a cult of the Maximum Leader is in the making, and that his attitude towards power is more important than the apparatus of the party. We are not there yet. We are, nevertheless, closer than ever before to an upheaval: one tenacious man has made India his argument, and he lets no one steal it—or alter it. Anyone may still try.



Modi could be the One
India, hurt and humiliated, needs more than a no-nonsensical administrator answerable to the people

In volume and volatility, there is nothing else to match it in a democracy. Equally exceptional is the amount of anticipation and anxiety, in equal measure, it has evoked. This election is different, and it is not a sentiment exaggerated by the media ever desperate for a ‘historic moment’. It is the text, a campaigning season marked by the possibilities of tomorrow and the insult of incumbency, and the context, national despondency equalled by a swelling urgency for change, that make this election a breakthrough moment in the evolutionary tale of the Republic. This election, unlike most in the past, ought to be the voice of an India ungoverned—and un-led.

The national mood has rarely been angrier, and angry nations behave wisely. Ten years ago, when the UPA was elected, in its size and sweep, the victory of the Congress was lesser than the defeat of the BJP. It took just five years for the Indian Right to squander a mandate that broke the idyll of the Socialist state. It was a classic case of a party living up to that old truism: the management of power is more arduous than the struggle for power. Which also meant the Congress, under the leadership of Sonia Gandhi, didn’t have to struggle so hard to win. The man who struggled the least for being in power, though, was the 13th Prime Minister of India. Manmohan Singh was the Select One, and the closest India got to an apolitical politician. He could have turned what was commonly perceived as an inadequacy into an advantage. He chose to be the moderniser India missed; even as he continued to extend his stay in office, he was far from being in power. The ruler was in denial, and India was passing him by.

This election, with such a backdrop, is an exercise in the reclamation of India. The past five years have been a repudiation of the fundamentals of a democracy: accountability, transparency and responsibility. When some of the most brazen instances of State corruption emerged, the attitude of the Government was: stuff happens. The strangest sight, as the Government continued to distance itself from the people, was a Prime Minister behaving as if he was not part of the rot he was presiding over. When India needed answers, there were none, apart from the feeble monosyllables of the Prime Minister and the laboured triangulations of his handlers. Every scandal magnified the worst instincts of politics and economics. India was fast emerging as the perfect example of unregulated government and over-regulated marketplace. The cohabitation of crony capitalism and corrupt politics was inevitable. The saddest part was that it all happened under the watch of a man who was shaped not by the expediencies of politics but by the demands of good economics. Mandate 2014 is about the restoration of an India damaged by ten years of disintegration.

The choice is between the certainties of the present and the ideas of tomorrow. The Congress campaign led by Rahul Gandhi has an inbuilt weakness: the legacy of Dr Manmohan Singh. Many times in the past, and infrequently during this campaign, Rahul has shown that he is the change Congress can’t do without. That moment is still frozen in national memory: the angry princeling tearing apart his Prime Minister’s corruption-friendly ordinance. For a brief while, he was the representative of a generation that was fed up with the mounting immoralities of this government. His anger was India’s; so was his impatience for change. He was the insider outsider, and there was no one better placed to be the conscience-keeper of India’s oldest political tradition. But this prince was not made to struggle for the crown; power for him, it seemed, was not something to be won after a fight. He meditated on it when the party—and India—wanted a non-Manmohan Singh. What was needed was a New Congress, and only one man could have created it, but Rahul was elsewhere, a man of sporadic aggression out of which no coherent vision of an alternative emerged. He didn’t have a dream to sell. More aptly perhaps, the nightmare of Manmohan Singh didn’t let him. This is the unwritten tragedy of this election: the best intentions of a prince killed by a puppet king.

The arena was entirely Narendra Modi’s. It is one of those rare instances in a democracy when one man becomes the argument of a nation, unifying as well as divisive. That said, the best parts of Modi on the stump were not his bestselling lines on the Family or its employee in South Block, though the lampoonery may have provided enough entertainment to the base of the shirtless. He was wise enough to realise that negative campaigns never win elections (a fact not acknowledged by the Congress.) What set him apart was the message. A message that was compatible with the aspirations of an India with 97 million new voters, aged between 18 and 23. His conversations with the future sounded convincing because, as Chief Minister of Gujarat, he had shown that good economics and shrewd politics could go together. Modi on the stump was prime ministerial, and his portrait of India was closer to the India most Indians missed in the age of Manmohan Singh. An India where the creation of wealth will be as much a priority as the creation of jobs, where the Government, preferably downsized, will not be the regulator of the marketplace but provider of the right atmospherics for investment. Candidate Modi, the jokes apart, was not a right-wing zealot floating in mythology but a reassuring Conservative, a moderniser rooted in tradition. Discarding the polarising culture argument, Modi sought an easy access to the mass mind through his economic argument. That was smart.

Even though the best of Modi is what India wants now, the man is still a work-in-progress, and the rough edges cannot be wished away. He will have to come to terms with his past, which no modern politician can afford to rewrite. It is not that he has to own up the crimes of Gujarat 2002; it is that, as a leader who has mastered a fine vocabulary of the future, which is a sign of statesmanship, he should be able to say sorry for the crimes of others. India, hurt and humiliated, needs more than a no-nonsensical administrator answerable to the people. Power is crass when it is applied by an unsophisticated mind. India is ready for the Great Reconciler. Narendra Modi could still be the one.


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Postby Hari Seldon » 09 May 2014 16:59

^^ The same faulty argument...
It is not that he has to own up the crimes of Gujarat 2002; it is that, as a leader who has mastered a fine vocabulary of the future, which is a sign of statesmanship, he should be able to say sorry for the crimes of others. India, hurt and humiliated, needs more than a no-nonsensical administrator answerable to the people. Power is crass when it is applied by an unsophisticated mind. India is ready for the Great Reconciler. Narendra Modi could still be the one.


The same grovelling for any semblence of what might sound like an apology... too bad, the author will be a disappointed man. He never understood what comprises the bulkwark of Modi's base, then. Time will teach him, I reckon.

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Postby Hari Seldon » 09 May 2014 17:02

Time for renewed dhoti shivering onlee...

Modi 'among most protected VIPs' as security tightens after suicide bomber threat

As an NSG protectee, Modi had 18 Black Cat commandos. But after the Patna blasts, the security network was revised and now he has 45 commandos from the NSG as well as Gujarat Police deployed in multiple layers to constitute an inner ring around him. There are more forces in what is being called the outer ring.

The agencies undertake a three-day security check at all venues used by Modi for his public meetings in what is termed Advance Security Liaison (ASL). Officials claim that in all 108 security personnel surround Modi all the time. State secretariat and BJP sources in Gujarat claim that Modi abhors this security ring around him. The NSG is learnt to have complained to the Union home ministry against Modi about his security violations, when he did not alert the agency in advance about his tours to New Delhi, Karnataka and Himachal Pradesh.

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Postby Pratyush » 09 May 2014 17:13

At this stage, I don't believe any thing will make a difference to the outcome of the elections.

Modi, has changed the narrative by merely existing at this time and space. We may not see who is at the background coming through the ranks. But who ever follows Modi will have to deliver on the promise of Modi.

Regardless of what happens now, there is no going back. Win or loose, the game has changed.

We want development, we want an end to vote bank politics. We want an end to you scratch my back. I'll scratch yours. We will not be denied.

We have voted for change and by gods we will have it. With or without Modi at the helm. This is some thing the opposition does not understand yet.

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Postby Hari Seldon » 09 May 2014 17:13

Looks fotoshopped to moi but WTH, just for laughs onlee...

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Postby SwamyG » 09 May 2014 17:16

All this smokes and mirror only till May 12th. After the final polling is done, and things get a little easy and people can push buttons and envelopes, things will move in a frenzy. Parties will drop pre-poll posturing and get into post-poll reality and start aligning. Even Modi mentioned in the Arnab interview, his relationship with Didi will be known after 12th. He did not say 16th.

I think model code of conduct ends after the 'elections process' is over - which means after the counting is done, and ECI is done with the elections.

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Postby Hari Seldon » 09 May 2014 17:20

^^Re the Modi-Mamta relationship... Its simple.

Both consider the left in Bengal the primary enemy. And attacking each-other was the best way to draw away left votes - Ms towards TMC and the rest towards BJP. Only.

Q is whether this scheme was pre-decided and actively colluded on or was it fully a Modi plan which mamta, reactively, fell for. Only.

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Postby panduranghari » 09 May 2014 17:21

Singha wrote:+72 sire. conflicts among non-native religions in their selected homelands should be none of our concern. shia-sunni fights, islam-vs-christanity, inter church christian fights for control, oppressive rulers in other lands going after their co-religionists...none of India's concern.


RAW should work on making this happen overseas. It keeps them occupied in conflict thus weakening them. Thats what the Abrahamics did to us, we should turn the tables back.

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Postby SwamyG » 09 May 2014 17:25

Looks like exit polls can be shown after 6:30pm from May 12th. 12th - 17th of this year would be the busiest days for Indian politicians.

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Postby James B » 09 May 2014 17:33

KLP Dubey wrote:
James B wrote:Rajdeep Sardesai is claiming on a business channel that NDA is reaching close to 272+. Remember, this guy has access to CSDS exit polls which are quite reliable. Today Market also gave a indication that NDA is indeed getting close to 272+.


Is that from the 8 phases already done, or includes a projection of phase 9 too ?


He has access to 8 phases of exit-polls but its not difficult to project all 9 phases based on 8 phases data. He already indicated that NDA is reaching 272+, the means anything more than 272 is possible. Fingers crossed onlee.

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Postby Manu » 09 May 2014 17:33

Singha wrote:this thread will be locked on 16th morning IST by whichever of the india based admins wake up first.
the other election thread will also be locked.

if NDA loses
16th night - job opportunities and refugee / asylum openings outside india thread

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :mrgreen: :lol:

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby SriKumar » 09 May 2014 17:34

Hari Seldon wrote:Meanwhile in the protectorate of new jersey...

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And in Delhi, or perhaps in Varanasi, if anyone offers a similar deal, they should call it:
Bhagoda brand pakoda.

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Gus » 09 May 2014 17:39

I think they wound up NAC hastily to hide files and memos and stuff.

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Hari Seldon » 09 May 2014 18:08

^^ Here's another reason why... the real definition will emerge again. soon.

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby harbans » 09 May 2014 18:26

Having Tea and trying to reason with those that behead one's soldiers is Treason and not Reason.

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby muraliravi » 09 May 2014 18:45

EC gives clean chit to Rahul Gandhi, something is wrong, not even a notice, where do they get the nerve to do something like this?

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby VikramS » 09 May 2014 18:45

http://www.e-diasporas.fr/wp/therwath.html
Now centers to study the desi diaspora

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Mihaylo » 09 May 2014 18:46

harbans wrote:That Muslims in India have equal rights to others is one thing. But it's a bit of a stretch to think Muslims in other countries have the same rights as Dharmics in seeking refuge here. That is not required, neither constitutionally nor morally. WHen they have not taken the theka in their countries that Muslims and Dharmics have same rights, why do we give those very Muslims the same rights to refuge as Dharmics? Utter idiocy.



All hindus are welcome. Lets leave it at that. If anything, it is very rare to find a honest to heart "Bharat Mata ke Jai" type among non-hindus of Indian origin. If anything, they get more rabid outside India.

Selective and not Blanket refuge is the key.


Re-creating and maintaining the ideal balance between the majority and the minority bodes well for both.

-M


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