Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

[Karan M]

To reiterate the point about "white people worship"- I'd encourage everyone to read Tavleen Singhs' Durbar - get a copy from your library.
It makes the specific point that even Rajiv's hangers on were ok with the fact that he married a white woman with zero creds, then marrying a local lady. Basically, she says that was the prevailing culture of the times.

[Vikas]

^ But then why other 'White women' could not build on the success of their husbands and some of the Indian politicians are married to foreigners of European descent.
Have no doubt about it, She is very clever and has understood the psyche of Indians and congress sycophants very well. A gandhi name even on a stone statue would fetch them votes even if it means great many leaders of Cong stand outside 10 Janpath like beggars for the ellusive appointment .
Even today after such a horrible drubbing, Congressi folks still can't get the chutzpah to ask for her resignation even if it is token.

[negi]

^ Err Raga Sr. did not make a career by marrying SG his career was already decided by Indira Gandhi , SG in fact made a fortune by riding the sympathy wave after Raga Sr.'s death.

[Vikas]

Negi, I meant other 'white' political wives and not RG sr.

[panduranghari]

She is one of the most arrogant people ever, judging by her body language. Sitting in a BJP majority parliament after all she has done, is making her literally retch with anger, going by her expressions. I hope Modi does not goes easy on the Cosa Nostra

The reality is she never cared about anyone but herself and her children. Even now that is the case. She does not have enough education, but then education is not considered necessary for success. She was parachuted because she was 'gori'. And Marxist have helped us believe that white people are better than others. She came at a time when the chances of Indics to go over seas were limited. Now many not only go over seas but have videshi bahus. The novelty has worn off. When Modi talks about various good things he wants to do, some part of her brain goes into a tizzy. It not only shows her son to be incompetent, it also shows her to be one. Because people by voting for Modi is large numbers have accepted that the last government was 'maa-beta' Sarkar who wasted time. More Modi talks and does, the more these buffoons look even more incompetent. What else can she do but roll her eyes. Besides Congoons not getting the leader of opposition post has emasculated her in the parliament. But the C system has deep roots and her rolling eyes is a signal to those roots to act. The Gandhi name should be made insignificant. God speed to that as old boys say.

[Jarita]

The problem is that Maino has deep deep connections amongst the power structures outside India and they would anyway prefer their person. My only concern is that this power structure will do what it takes if the heat is too much. Right now they are hoping that this government sells off everything dirt heap so that they get whatever is left of India's resources. However, if that does not materialize then it is lose lose and wait for the noise to go up through riots and internal hassles that will make Namo look like Stalin or worse. They will stack indirectly to destabilize
So don't write off Maino as yet

[Hari Seldon]

Decorative flags enroute from Paro airport to Thimpu to welcome PM Narendra Modi

[Santosh]

Err re: SG, RaGa Sr continued down the illustrious path of his ancestors starting with Nahru who with all is western pretensions forced down indic throats that he was born to lead unwashed masses. Same with MKG - again parachuted in to lead with a ring of white ladies around him thus proving that he was better than the rest. And IG with her questionable marital history and utter disregard to come clean. No wonder that RaGa Sr thought that he was too good for anyone indic.

[KLNMurthy]

Negi, I meant other 'white' political wives and not RG sr.

Salman khurshid's wife did quite well I think.

[KJo]

Why are we still talking about Sonia like dissing an ex? Let's move on.

[Singha]

All friends of congis do well. If one is not inside the circle setup a think tank or Ngo and avail goi support

[Sonugn]

Does anyone know as to what Modi's stance on article 377 is?

[Kakkaji]

Dynasty chamchas piping up again:

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1140614/jsp/nation/story_18511292.jsp#.U5x6F3aGcXU

New Delhi, June 13: The Congress appears to be in a dilemma on the approach to adopt towards the Narendra Modi government, with many senior leaders extremely critical of those that want to pursue the role of “constructive Opposition” in contrast with the “brazen obstructionism” the BJP chose in the past 10 years.

These leaders believe the BJP should be paid back in its own coin and shown how destructive using Parliament as a political battlefield can be for national interest. Although the top leadership does not appear receptive to the idea, some key party functionaries have argued against extending unbiased cooperation to the government saying little significance is attached to positivity now.

[IndraD]

Modi boards INS Vikrmaditya

[IndraD]

Modi to visit Bhutan only with DD team no golgappa brigade allowed.

[Suraj]

Dynasty chamchas piping up again:

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1140614/jsp/nation/story_18511292.jsp#.U5x6F3aGcXU

New Delhi, June 13: The Congress appears to be in a dilemma on the approach to adopt towards the Narendra Modi government, with many senior leaders extremely critical of those that want to pursue the role of “constructive Opposition” in contrast with the “brazen obstructionism” the BJP chose in the past 10 years.

These leaders believe the BJP should be paid back in its own coin and shown how destructive using Parliament as a political battlefield can be for national interest. Although the top leadership does not appear receptive to the idea, some key party functionaries have argued against extending unbiased cooperation to the government saying little significance is attached to positivity now.

That's really funny. They're not even an official leader of opposition. The entire opposition can gang up together in some imaginary world where no regional party bothers to think of their state's wellbeing, and the BJP will still conduct business as usual because they have more than simple majority. The more the opposition boycotts proceedings, the better the NDA's functional 2/3rds majority.

[disha]

^^^ There is a saying "Miya'ji gire par unki tangdi unchi" - That is a dog'erel to show a Miya (honorific for a mullah, but used as a pun to buttonhole and point out somebody unworthy of that honorific) falls hard on his head but still says that the H&D is retained since the legs are up!

CONgoons are not even an opposition, but they will behave like they are the leader of opposition for the next 5 years. Modi should every 3-4 months take out a cat out of bag called Leader of Opposition, make the CONgoons dance around, squirm around and put it back in the bag. Spread dissension in CONgoons ranks. Like a slow poison that CONgoons will definitely get high on.

[Karan M]

Suraj: RS opposition could be a pain?

[Kakkaji]

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/lop-post-in-ls-right-of-congress-shakeel-ahmed/articleshow/36560115.cms

LoP post in LS 'right of Congress': Shakeel Ahmed

[Kakkaji]

I hope the BJP does not fall for this clamour from Congress to grant it the LoP position.

The way I see it, NaMo needs to get the AIADMK and the BJD on its side, with sops to their states. Then the real opposition line up in Parliament would be Cong + Trinamool + Left + SP + BSP + RJD + TRS + MIM + Assorted. These parties together would be less than half of Lok Sabha + Rajya Sabha.

[IndraD]

Bhutan welcomes Shri Narendra Modi
https://twitter.com/ANI_news/status/477 ... 00/photo/1

[saip]

Does anyone know as to what Modi's stance on article 377 is?

Which one? Section 377, IPC or Article 370 Indian Constitution? IPC is about home sexuality.

[Suraj]

Suraj: RS opposition could be a pain?

What is opposition ? The BJP is the undoubted central power. They have overwhelming power in multiple northern states and are currently threatening to expand further into UP, Bihar, Maharashtra and West Bengal at least, if not further. The next RS reshuffle is in two years, and the BJPs current state wins and any future ones, will expand their seat share in RS further. The RS cannot block bills; they are only a factor when we talk of sweeping constitutional reforms. My bet is that Modi will not jump into that right away, but will consolidate in RS using state elections in the next two years. Until then, what can RS do ? Nothing. State leaders ultimately want to be in on the national gravy train. None of them are in it for the principle of opposing. If it serves them, they'll happily go along with Modi's agenda to keep the money flowing to them.

Kakkaji: the prior precedent for this was in 1984. RaGa the First, rotated the LoP among all the rump opposition parties. That got them all fighting each other for the right to be the next LoP. Modi may do this, or simply say no LoP at all. Both are good options, depending on circumstances. As it stands, right now there is no LoP. There may be one later if circumstances dictate that Modi wants to look magnanimous in order to divide the opposition using the LoP bait, as opposed to uniting them as they seek the LoP position to be available.

[Gus]

Suraj: RS opposition could be a pain?

given modi's popularity, i doubt regional parties can afford to do obstructionism on sensible bills that need to pass in RS. it will only be congress, left, mulayam etc who will oppose no matter what. jj and naveen would agree to good bills in return for help with their own development.

and i fully expect modi to rectify this situation by getting more assy seats in coming elections to increase tally in RS within couple of years.

anyways, this is not like massa where one senator can play obstructionism with filibustering, or one group in congress hold the legislative process in suspension by their threat of veto on speaker.

[Abhijit]

NaMo needs to present a well-researched white paper on how exactly did the UPA sarkar screw up the economy to the extent that NaMo had to mention its overhang in his Goa address today. Let the discussion start in the MSM about very clearly enunciated points with supporting data. Let there be questions on why certain decisions were made by UPA and how they affected the economy. A charge sheet as BRF had advocated before the elections - now is the time to bring it up with known facts and figures.

[RamaY]

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 560680.cms


VARANASI: Three bags filled with nearly 145 kg of highly explosive ammonium nitrate were found in an abandoned car in Dafi area here today, police said.

The explosives were found by police on a vehicle checking drive at National Highway here under Lanka police station, circle officer of Bhelupur area Shalini said.

The car was coming from Allahabad and when the driver saw policemen checking vehicles, he abandoned it, parked it on a side lane and fled from there, she said.

[Kakkaji]

Sonia keeps Cong reins

New Delhi, June 14: Sonia Gandhi has ended speculation about her role by unambiguously stating that she will “lead from the front” till the Congress regains its glory.

Rahul Gandhi will, therefore, continue to play a supportive role for much longer than initially expected.

Sonia, who was on her first post-poll visit to constituency Rae Bareli yesterday, expressed her resolve to fight till the Congress returns to power at the Centre with a thumping majority.

Party sources admit the scale of defeat might have slowed down the process of transition, although there is little doubt that Rahul is the future of the Congress. There are murmurs of dissent against Rahul’s style of functioning, plus explicit opposition to his key advisers. But nobody so far has raised a finger at Sonia’s leadership.

Sonia is the authority every Congress worker bows to and even sparring senior leaders surrender before her. The election debacle has ensured Rahul will require more time and struggle to acquire that legitimacy. There are many leaders, particularly from the Hindi heartland, who feel Rahul should step back for a while and focus on connecting with people in key states.

Sonia made it clear to party workers in Rae Bareli that blaming the “bad product” for the defeat was not the correct approach as the Manmohan Singh government had significant achievements that could not be publicised.

She stressed the need to reach out to the people and regain their trust. Party workers said the disconnect with the masses over 10 years, both by ministers and senior leaders, was behind the 44-seat shocker. Sonia singled out Uttar Pradesh as a state where “the party has to begin from scratch”.

In Uttar Pradesh, the BJP jumped from nine seats to 71 while the Congress slumped from 22 to two. The vote percentage was more scary: while the BJP polled 42.3 per cent votes, the Congress got merely 7.5 per cent.

The Samajwadi Party and the BSP did badly in terms of seats but they got 22.2 per cent and 19.6 per cent votes respectively, indicating it was the Congress that faced the brunt of the people’s wrath.

In terms of Assembly seats, the Lok Sabha results suggest the Congress would get merely 15 against the BJP’s 328 in the state.

Another fact reflects the depth of the crisis: the strongest of Congress candidates such as Salman Khurshid, Beni Prasad Verma, Jitin Prasada, Nirmal Khatri and Pradeep Jain ended up fourth.

Muslim anger was manifested in Moradabad where the party veteran, Begum Noor Bano, came fifth. Cricketer Mohammed Kaif and actor Ravi Kishan fetched just 58,127 and 42,759 votes respectively.

The message from the voters was: No Congress.

[Rahul Mehta]

imagine a huge ship heading towards an iceberg.

and suddenly modi is made captain.

he is going to focus on things he thinks is needed to avert the collision first. everything else is later.

True.

But NaMo and NaMo-vaadies had created a myth since jan-2012 that all that is needed is to change captain, and things will get fixed in 24 hours !! They both opposed all law-drafts needed to fix India. And they never informed Indian activists and voters about how weak the Indian Military has become due to misrule of PVNR, ABV, MMS etc and how bad the economy too has become in past 23 years since 1991. Even Sonia's decision of suppressing census-2011 religion/language data was supported by BJP etc.

So NaMo and NaMo-vaadies created the myth that "all that is needed is a good captain to fix the things in 24 hours". So now let them suffer the heat generated by feeling that -- "well, things didnt change in 24 hours, so the new captain must be as compromised as previous one".

[RamaY]

^ its better than starting to rewrite the ship manuals at that time, isn't it RMji?

[johneeG]

imagine a huge ship heading towards an iceberg.

and suddenly modi is made captain.

he is going to focus on things he thinks is needed to avert the collision first. everything else is later.

True.

But NaMo and NaMo-vaadies had created a myth since jan-2012 that all that is needed is to change captain, and things will get fixed in 24 hours !! They both opposed all law-drafts needed to fix India. And they never informed Indian activists and voters about how weak the Indian Military has become due to misrule of PVNR, ABV, MMS etc and how bad the economy too has become in past 23 years since 1991. Even Sonia's decision of suppressing census-2011 religion/language data was supported by BJP etc.

So NaMo and NaMo-vaadies created the myth that "all that is needed is a good captain to fix the things in 24 hours". So now let them suffer the heat generated by feeling that -- "well, things didnt change in 24 hours, so the new captain must be as compromised as previous one".

You mean economy was in better shape before 1991? Are you saying that Bhaarath should go back to Indhira-amma model?

[SanjayC]

I hope the BJP does not fall for this clamour from Congress to grant it the LoP position.

The way I see it, NaMo needs to get the AIADMK and the BJD on its side, with sops to their states. Then the real opposition line up in Parliament would be Cong + Trinamool + Left + SP + BSP + RJD + TRS + MIM + Assorted. These parties together would be less than half of Lok Sabha + Rajya Sabha.

Congis are trying hard to get LOP, otherwise Sonia Jee will have to vacate 10 JP and move in an ordinary apartment meant for MPs. Congis are orchestrating debates in paid media about how LOP is essential for a healthy democracy, blah, blah.

[Suraj]

The Congress are not in a position to influence the choice of LoP. The BJP has declined to elevate any opposition party to that role:
India's Parliament Will Have No Opposition Leader
Regarding the question of the Rajya Sabha, here are more details from the article above:

The Congress Party has a plurality of seats in the Rajya Sabha (the upper house of India’s bicameral legislature). Congress continues to field 67 legislators there while the BJP fields just 42. The UPA coalition has 79 out of the 245 seats comprising the Rajya Sabha. The Rajya Sabha is notably less powerful than the Lok Sabha particularly because all that is needed for financial bills to be legally passed is approval by the Lok Sabha — if the Rajya Sabha does not approve a financial bill, it is still considered to have passed. Similarly, the Rajya Sabha does not have the power to initiate a motion of no confidence in the government.

Of course, that didn't prevent Sonia from demanding it:
Congress should get Leader of Opposition post, says Sonia Gandhi

[chetak]

I hope the BJP does not fall for this clamour from Congress to grant it the LoP position.

The way I see it, NaMo needs to get the AIADMK and the BJD on its side, with sops to their states. Then the real opposition line up in Parliament would be Cong + Trinamool + Left + SP + BSP + RJD + TRS + MIM + Assorted. These parties together would be less than half of Lok Sabha + Rajya Sabha.

Congis are trying hard to get LOP, otherwise Sonia Jee will have to vacate 10 JP and move in an ordinary apartment meant for MPs. Congis are orchestrating debates in paid media about how LOP is essential for a healthy democracy, blah, blah.

Her accommodation will be mandated by the SPG requirements which will be final. She will cleverly use the "threat perception" angle to get what she wants

[Adrija]

Congis are trying hard to get LOP, otherwise Sonia Jee will have to vacate 10 JP and move in an ordinary apartment meant for MPs. Congis are orchestrating debates in paid media about how LOP is essential for a healthy democracy, blah, blah.

SoniaG lives in 10 Janpath as spouse of a previous PM, not in her capacity as Congress MP. So cannot be vacated irrespective of any current status

Not sure under what category RaGa and PriGa occupy their residence(s), perhaps SPG security requirement....so doubt NaMo will pick that battle at this stage at least.........there are plenty of other squatters to evict first

[SanjayC]

Congis are trying hard to get LOP, otherwise Sonia Jee will have to vacate 10 JP and move in an ordinary apartment meant for MPs. Congis are orchestrating debates in paid media about how LOP is essential for a healthy democracy, blah, blah.

SoniaG lives in 10 Janpath as spouse of a previous PM, not in her capacity as Congress MP. So cannot be vacated irrespective of any current status

Not sure under what category RaGa and PriGa occupy their residence(s), perhaps SPG security requirement....so doubt NaMo will pick that battle at this stage at least.........there are plenty of other squatters to evict first

Are spouses of previous PMs allotted Lutyen's bungalows? What about spouses of Charan Singh or IK Gujaral or Deve Gowda?

[krishnan]

Are spouses of previous PMs allotted Lutyen's bungalows? What about spouses of Charan Singh or IK Gujaral or Deve Gowda?

SG is a spl case, it wont be easy making them vacate that place

[member_28468]

i think it is very good idea to have an account for development to which everyone can contribute

plz shear maximum

भारत में बहुत से लोग हैं जो देश सेवा मे अपना पैसा देना चाहते हैं लेकिन उचित तरीका ना होने
के कारण वो ऐसा नहीं कर पाते हैं
मोदी जी आपके मार्ग दर्शन
में एस बी आई में एक भारत सरकार का अकाउंट खोला जाए जिस अकाउंटका नाम "मेरा भारत" हो इस अकाउंटकी कोई
इन्कवायरी नहीं हो ऒर इस खाते में पैसा जमा करने पर कोई
टेक्स ना हो और इस खाते की राशि सिर्फ सेवा कार्य के
लिए खर्च हो ऒर इस खाते का रोज का हिसाब किसी नेशनल
टीवी चेनल पर रोज दिखाया जाए यदि कोई इस खाते में बड़ी राशि देता हैं ऒर चाहता हैं की उसका नाम भी हो तो उस व्यक्ति का नाम भी दिया जाए यदि इस कार्य में बड़ी सफलता मिलती हैं
तो भारत सरकार द्वारा खुद का
टीवी चेनल स्टार्ट करके 24 घंटे देश की जनता को इस से जोड़ा जाए इस से देशभक्ति बढ़ेगी
बड़ी बड़ी लिमिटेड कंपनी NRI सब इस से जुड़ेंगे टेक्स देने में
भले ही खुशी ना हो लेकिन ये सेवा के लिए दान देकर हर
भारतीय को बहुत ख़ुशी होगी
जरा सोचो भारत की 125 करोड़ जनता यदि रोज
का 1 रूपया भी दे तो रोज का 125 करोड़ होगा 125 करोड़ में
5 बढ़िया हॉस्पिटल बन सकते हैं भारत में लगभग 1000 डिस्टिक
हैं मात्र 200 दिन में भारत के हरजिले में1फ्री चार्ज
का हॉस्पिटल बन सकता हैं बाकी आप. भी अपनी प्रतिक्रिया दे जय
भारत....

plz shear maximum

[Atri]

perfect, isn't?

[vivek.rao]

imagine a huge ship heading towards an iceberg.

and suddenly modi is made captain.

he is going to focus on things he thinks is needed to avert the collision first. everything else is later.

True.

But NaMo and NaMo-vaadies had created a myth since jan-2012 that all that is needed is to change captain, and things will get fixed in 24 hours !! They both opposed all law-drafts needed to fix India. And they never informed Indian activists and voters about how weak the Indian Military has become due to misrule of PVNR, ABV, MMS etc and how bad the economy too has become in past 23 years since 1991. Even Sonia's decision of suppressing census-2011 religion/language data was supported by BJP etc.

So NaMo and NaMo-vaadies created the myth that "all that is needed is a good captain to fix the things in 24 hours". So now let them suffer the heat generated by feeling that -- "well, things didnt change in 24 hours, so the new captain must be as compromised as previous one".

Who told that every thing will be fixed in 24 hours?

Did the people elect Govt for 24 hours or 5 years?

You have this concept of how great Guj was ruled by CONGis in 1990s in spite of stupid economy, 24x7x365 riots where as Modi/BJP are all dangerous MNC/EJ agents who with the help of PAIDMEDIA selling nation. You also LIE how all Gujarat had 24x7 electricity.

Things are being fixed. Anti-national/Islamic/western elements planted by CON MAFIA/Western powers in media, Govt, bureaucracy and NGOs have to eliminated brick by brick. It will take time. The poison injected by CONGis, SONIA has to be removed from the system. Along with that, we have to fight the vested interests of all Indians by their caste/religion/identity. Your party Congress created a system for 60+ years to pit one group against another and destroyed the concept of fairness/justice in the society. There is no concept of national interest among Indians. This is your gift to the country. For the first time in a long time, Modi made people across UC/OBC/SC/ST to think of India as one and development of India as a goal.

{deleted} in the last 50 years have never made people to think country as one and people as Indians. Did they? It is Muslims vs SCs vs OBC vs UC. Did you once raise your voice against it? once? Did you?

[Yogi_G]

perfect, isn't?

Indeed, I see this picture as a great victory of the Indic forces in the war against the "outsiders". May we inflict more such blows and Sri.Modi knows how to work such psyche angles.

A Sikh in his place, Sri Manmohan Singh would have been a bigger blow but unfortunately Sri Manmohan was no Sardar.