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harbans wrote:Its stupidity to allow Shia's or even Ahmedis into India on religious persecution grounds. They chose an Islamic state. They killed Hindu's here and there. If they are persecuted by the Sunnis i say try Dubai or USA. Because back in India once again in some majority they will ask for another State. This cycle has no end. A muslim state was created for them, stay there. SS et al talk too much and think too less.

It's only a soundbite from the likes of Swamy to make them look good on tv. No one in their right mind would actually believe that the BJP will offer asylum to non Indian shias, ahmedis etc.
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Pappu is doing the road show in Varanasi in the closing hours of campaigning on the 10th. He do a slick allegation at that time like Modi will order the killing of Muslims or Modi is a CIA agent bla bla bla... Need to be prepared and real time replies will be required as Modi cannot campaign after 5 PM.
In addition if people show black flags or BJP flags all thru the rally route it will be electrifying.
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RamaY wrote:
ashish raval wrote: Minus bad points (iraq). One point is sure he was ruthless in protecting US and its interests.
Did he?
For Pete's sake, moron outed a CIA agent because he was mad at her husband.

Amit Shah is 100% patriot and will never sell any Indian interest
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cheney of all people ? what paap did amit shah commit to be humiliated in such a way ?
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Anantha wrote:Pappu is doing the road show in Varanasi in the closing hours of campaigning on the 10th. He do a slick allegation at that time like Modi will order the killing of Muslims or Modi is a CIA agent bla bla bla... Need to be prepared and real time replies will be required as Modi cannot campaign after 5 PM.
In addition if people show black flags or BJP flags all thru the rally route it will be electrifying.

Are they bussing people in to show huge crowds a la Modi roadshow

-M
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Why this compulsive need to find western leaders to find analogies with the current dharmic ones? Amit Shah ji can be likened to Indian icons, no?
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Dick Cheny is at best Bush's Diggy Raja.
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ashish raval wrote:Looks like it to laymen like me. He did manage to keep us safe during his tenure and nearly wipe Qaeda dogs out.
who is us :lol:

cheney by pushing for iraq war, and letting the afg war play out as it did (letting off osama, outsourcing to pak, paying pak billions for shooting at and killing americans), the trillions wasted etc - he is the worst of the lot when it comes to the bush administration idiots who drove america into the ditch.

how stupid can one get. "keep us safe". what about the 1000s of american soldiers dead and maimed in iraq in an unnecessary war.

unbelievable to see this kind of nonsense in BRF. :evil:
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Looks like its Congress dirty tricks that led to the UP govt cancelling Modi's rallies in Varanasi by denying permission.

Appears IB sent reports of security threats to Benya Bagh rally. Now they claim they got the reports from Gujarat Police!!! How can GP give IB security threat to Modi in Varanasi!
Working for Modi if they see a threat they would work to protect Modi themselves.


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Abhijit wrote:Why this compulsive need to find western leaders to find analogies with the current dharmic ones? Amit Shah ji can be likened to Indian icons, no?
Exactly. In one of his recent interviews (was it with Sardesai or Prannoy trio) when Modi was compared with some dictator type personality, Amit added that (emperor) Asoka would be a better comparison. Every chakravati and samarat had their noble gurus and able commanders.

Left, Right, secular, capitalism, socialism, trickle down ityadi are stale used and abused concepts that do not fully address the human challenges and opportunities. Dharma does it.
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kapilrdave wrote:All taqia KJo saar. Basically he says hindus will stay and muslims will go. We will see how he does it and then justifies it. One thing is certain. Whatever justification he makes, he will get FULL support of aam junta.
NaMo should outsource it to VHP to make the determination if some applicant for refugee status is a Hindu, thus persecuted in Bangladesh, or a Muslim. VHP can use their own methods or outsource the case further to say Bajrang Dal, etc.
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http://bharatkalyan97.blogspot.com/2014 ... -jain.html
From Varanasi, the new Gangotri -- Sandhya Jain

FROM VARANASI, MODI WILL REJUVENATE INDIA
Tuesday, 06 May 2014 | Sandhya Jain
The selection of Kashi as the new Gangotri of an ancient civilisation is apt, not accidental, for no other city so embodies India's eternity, unceasing energy, and patient tenacity to endure
As the long-drawn parliamentary election meanders to a close, it would be churlish to deny that Mr Narendra Modi gambled well in his choice of Varanasi as the wellspring of his plans for rejuvenating India, economically and civilisationally. It is equally evident that the people of Gujarat realise he will quit Vadodara in the event of being anointed Prime Minister, and are willing to pay this price for the honour of having a son of the soil at the helm of the nation’s destiny at a testing time in its history. This gamble seems set to succeed.With so much living symbolism associated with the city, the rage of political rivals at Mr Modi’s stupendous road show when he went to file his nomination is understandable. The city came to a standstill; schools and colleges shut down (note that the Samajwadi Party rules the State), as did shops and other establishments; even magistrates, lawyers and litigants lined the road outside the courthouse; apparently only the Collector’s office functioned on April 24. No other nomination — not Jawaharlal Nehru, Indira Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi, Sonia Gandhi, Rahul Gandhi, or even Narendra Modi himself at Vadodara — in India’s electoral history equals what happened in Varanasi, where the wells of hope in a parched land opened up and flooded the city.
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http://ibnlive.in.com/news/congress-lea ... 37-64.html

Acute mental retardation,
Go Hatya papi Rasheed C$utiya alwi Offers to take care of Modis mother
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Mihaylo wrote:
Anantha wrote:Pappu is doing the road show in Varanasi in the closing hours of campaigning on the 10th. He do a slick allegation at that time like Modi will order the killing of Muslims or Modi is a CIA agent bla bla bla... Need to be prepared and real time replies will be required as Modi cannot campaign after 5 PM.
In addition if people show black flags or BJP flags all thru the rally route it will be electrifying.

Are they bussing people in to show huge crowds a la Modi roadshow

-M
Definitely yes. They can assemble 100K people if they round up all congi voters in UP,by giving them 1 bottle and 1000 rs :mrgreen:
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Anantha wrote:http://ibnlive.in.com/news/congress-lea ... 37-64.html

Acute mental retardation,
Go Hatya papi Rasheed C$utiya alwi Offers to take care of Modis mother
disgusting idiots. one cannot even understand what they hope to achieve by these kind of nonsensical statements.

chinna budhi-ya kaattu-raan.

little people with little minds.
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If we have to find parallels with the western figures, why not Rahul Gandhi = Caligula?
Doggy Singh = newt Gingrich as both of them were boinking their next wife to be while the current wives of both were dying or suffering from of cancer
Manmaun singh = Nero
Chidambaram is Romney
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Gus wrote:
Anantha wrote:http://ibnlive.in.com/news/congress-lea ... 37-64.html

Acute mental retardation,
Go Hatya papi Rasheed C$utiya alwi Offers to take care of Modis mother
disgusting idiots. one cannot even understand what they hope to achieve by these kind of nonsensical statements.

chinna budhi-ya kaattu-raan.

little people with little minds.
It's a great opening for Modi's mother to reply: "My son has done fine by me. Thanks for the offer, I've seen how you've helped India, I'm locking the door."
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Modi should reply tomorrow that
"Rasheed aur uske sathee jinhone Bharat Mata ki izzat looti hai woh kisi ki ma ka kya raksha karenge"

I am glad I am not the only person fuming at the level to which these guys have stooped
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Anantha wrote:I am glad I am not the only person fuming at the level to which these guys have stooped
Don't get mad, get even. :wink:
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RajeshA wrote:
kapilrdave wrote:All taqia KJo saar. Basically he says hindus will stay and muslims will go. We will see how he does it and then justifies it. One thing is certain. Whatever justification he makes, he will get FULL support of aam junta.
NaMo should outsource it to VHP to make the determination if some applicant for refugee status is a Hindu, thus persecuted in Bangladesh, or a Muslim. VHP can use their own methods or outsource the case further to say Bajrang Dal, etc.
I dont want to go off topic, but this whole thing was either politically very smart or it is absolute harakiri.

1. He was making this point very clear in areas of assam which have substantial bengali hindu population and in areas of bengal which have huge no. of hindu refugees and did not want to offend them when he talks about bangladeshi infiltration.

2. It is almost impossible in a country like India to monitor what religion these people follow after they are let in, so my guess is Modi govt will accept very limited no. of refugees on a case by case basis and screen them very well before letting them in. When i say limited, I am talking in the range of maybe 10000 people per year at max.

3. The reason I am warning about harakiri is simple: His line of thinking is very similar to lot of people on this forum and many VHP/RSS people I know who express a lot of concern for hindus outside of India who feel that if India cannot guarantee their safety in their respective countries, we need give them shelter despite being already overpopulated to the hilt. The problem with this logic is that, this was the same logic that Jan Sangh applied after 1971 to force congress/communists to grant citizenship to bangladeshi refugee hindus in WB/Assam. The communists and congress smartly accepted it and slowly over the years they allowed everyone under the cover and we watched like sitting ducks. Now as long as BJP govt is in power, probably we wont do such harakiri, but if in the future, some other pseudo secular party comes to power, then can abuse this law and say, we are truly secular and open the doors to Rohingya muslims (who btw will be called as refugees as they are fleeing from buddhist majority burma).

4. This is a very big risk BJP/Namo has taken and I have had heated debates with people who have similar line of thought. IMHO, if we can help the hindus in countries where they are persecuted by forcing their respective governments (economic sanctions, military stand off etc..) that is fine. But I am not a proponent of this opening the doors. Bangladesh has roughly 15 million hindus, are you going take in 15 million people into India at tax payers expense. This whole idea is ridiculous. It can work only if India deports 1 muslim (an Indian muslim citizen, this cannot be counted against the muslim bangladeshi being deported) for every hindu coming in from a muslim country.

5. Overall in India you will find a lot of support for deporting all bangladeshis as long as you dont add statements like hindu bangladeshsis can stay and muslims should leave.

6. you give the secular lobby a stick to beat you up with and force you not to deport muslim bangladeshis also.

I hope they are just giving sound bytes on hindu refugees for those areas in wb and assam for election purposes, and get about this task seriously after elections. But anyway the damage has been done by officially talking about hindu refugees, because I am sure the govt after Namo will go ahead and use that as a yardstick and sign the UN refugee convention and start accepting refugees from everywhere. Misguided sense of hindu unity is going to destroy India forever this way.

I say deport them all hindu or muslim bangladeshi and reduce India's population. India should try and partition a thin strip within bangladesh and make it all hindu which will also serve as a buffer between India and Bangladesh.
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Advani Thatha is not being heard nowadays any sound bites or he is praying for 160 seats?
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Anantha wrote:Advani Thatha is not being heard nowadays any sound bites or he is praying for 160 seats?
Shri LKA and Shri MMJ are relaxing and recovering from the election campaign. They are somewhat elderly, and the election season has been strenuous. It is hoped they will represent their new constituencies well.
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thatha ji can get the ministry of NE region.
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In todays Dainik Jagran
Rahul and his convoy ask for directions to another village. Villagers misguide. Give him directions through a dirt road. Imagine the anger.
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Agree with MRji. We need to make enclaves in B'desh along the borders with India for Hindus. Sort of like Eastern Ukraine will be and other Russian enclaves are for Russia. Getting Hindus to come to mainland India is abandoning the land rights to those places which originally belong to us. This is similar to what we did with KPs. Jagmohan got the KPs out of J&K but they have been permanently alienated from that land. We need a Panun Kashmir in present J&K only. No other religion or ethnicity gives away their right to land. The Europeons and American Protestant Zionist supports created Israel in West Asia and not in Europe or US where most of the Jews are culturally from. Similarly Russia hasn't allowed Ethnic Russians to come back to Russia. Rather it has created enclaves within the disputed areas.
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Anantha wrote:http://ibnlive.in.com/news/congress-lea ... 37-64.html

Acute mental retardation,
Go Hatya papi Rasheed C$utiya alwi Offers to take care of Modis mother
Insolent and uncultured piece of sh*t. I hope Modi's people "take care of" this individual and all the lowlifes who are probably giggling and high-fiving at his cleverness.
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Anantha wrote:In todays Dainik Jagran
Rahul and his convoy ask for directions to another village. Villagers misguide. Give him directions through a dirt road. Imagine the anger.
they should have shown a road which leads them out of the city
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^No highways in that area or you could have sent them in a circular loop as in I-695 around Baltimore
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i hate baltimore airport, especially if you have to turn your rentals and catch the flight real quick.
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There is no way in hell that a country can deport 10 million people in an orderly manner without massive outbreaks of violence and sprees of violent orgies and mob lynching. It isn't just possible.

Whether we like it or not, we are stuck with 10 million illegal Bangladeshis whether they are refugees or economic refugees. It is logistically impossible to find out and very inhumane to subject the necessary tactics and forces to find out. We would be branded an xenophobic murderous nation.

Why do you think that even with all of its resources at its disposal, US still cannot deport 10 million illegal Mexicans and Latin Americans living within its borders? The US tried and it is backfiring.

What I would do is immediately beef up the borders and cut down the crossing and trafficking to a minimum and allow the 10 million illegals who are already in India to work but they cannot vote or import their family members from Bangladesh. Also they must be subjected to a test where they do not have any Islamic terrorist sympathies. If they do, it is automatic deportation. Any record of violent crime, automatic deportation. And they must pay their taxes and cannot claim any benefits or subsidies from the government.

Other than that, they need to be treated like regular citizens and be integrated into Indian society and accept Indian society norms and cultures and be tolerant of others. In exchange we would permit their offspring who were born in India to be full fledged citizens with all the benefits and privileges citizenship conveys.

To think that 10 million Bangladeshis can be deported is engaging in sheer wishing and dreaming in la la fantasy land. It is just not humanely possible and it may leave a permanent scar in our dharmic fabric of our great Indian society.

Disclosure* - I am a hard core BJP supporter and a huge fan of Modi and despise the Gandhi family. The only Gandhi I liked was Indira Gandhi. This is no lie.
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The mediamen, be paid Rajat Sharma or paid Rajdeep Sardesai have been paid-mediamen since mediamen came on earth. So whether AK's sponsors paid mediamen to make AK hero or not, whether paid-Arnab took payments to ask only easy questions to RaGa or whether interview takers were paid to ask ONLY easy questions to NaMoare all non-questions. They were all paid, and paid big time. Thats how things have been since 5000 BC.

The MAIN question is --- whether BJP\NaMo took help from foreigners in ensuring that media give coverage and mediamen dont ask tough questions. And answer is - YES.

And the proofs are

1. Interview takers asked NaMo ONLY easy questions and skipped all tough question which would have made NaMo look bad. This is exactly what paid Rajdeep Sardesai and paid Burkha Dutt had done with AK. They both asked very easy questions to AK in jan-2013 in a very hostile looking and so AK emerged as winner, so AK's support zoomed up. Here is also, all interview takers such as paid Rahul Kanwal , paid Rajat Sharma etc etc are all asking easy questions only. Now please note --- when an interview taker asks easy questions, he will ask in very aggressive way, so that audience gets fooled into believing that interview taker is asking tough questions and so interview is not paid\fixed. But if one ignores the style and posturing, and looks at text of the questions and compares with IMPORTANT questions outside , then one can see the interview fixing easily.

2. Pls see this 1 minute YT at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sap4pprhPNg This YT clip is a small part of 1 hour long pre-recorded interview, which was shown SIMULTANEOUSLY on almost ALL news channels and all major general entertainment channels. No matter what channel the viewer will go to, the viewer will have no option but to see this interview !!! This is basically trapping the viewer so that he is forced to see this interview. Such viewing --- all channels showing same program --- is NOT available for cash. One requires strategic deals with media-owing-foreigners to have this "all channels showing one show" event. Now most channels are now foreign-owned. So the simultaneous viewing on all channels proves that NaMo has made pact with videshies. Now in my books, everything is cool or uncool, but cutting deals with videshi is crossing the laxman rekha. I can ignore away Adani-Ambani deals, but this NaMo's deal with foreigners should NOT be looked away and must be brought to notice of every Indian voters.



3. NaMo has been forced to force Swami Ramdevji to dump Mauritius route issue. There is no mention of closing Maritius route in Modifesto-2014 and Swami Ramdevji isnt even demanding

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Bangladeshi refugee vs infiltratirs

We MUST allow ALL refugees from BD, Pak, SL etc and expel all infiltrators. Only the infiltrators who came before 1947 may stay. It is TRIVIALLY easy to distinguish between the two. See chap-32 , chap-33 of The Book. I wont give link to The Book as I dont want to use BR to advertise The Book. Now NaMo has made statement that he welcome refugees and not infiltrators. But NaMo since 1991 never gave any procedure to distinguish between refugee and infiltrator, because he never bothered. Outsourcing to VHP will be bad idea, because most VHP middle brass is now hopelessly corrupt ---- same as BJP middle brass. If VHP middle brass is asked to distinguish between infiltrator and and refugee, then Saudi money that is going to Mamta , CPM, Congress to allow in Bangladeshi will start going to VHP and NOTHING ELSE will happen. The solution is print law-drafts which enable Jurors to distinguish between teh two, using DNA tests and narco-tests in public. The details are chap-32 and chap-33 of The Book.
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Kolkata: The war of words between West Bengal Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee and her Gujarat counterpart Narendra Modi hit a new low on Wednesday when the former called the BJP prime ministerial nominee a 'donkey'.
While addressing a public rally in Kolkata, Mamata, who had in the past called Modi a 'devil' and 'dangerous person', called him a 'gadha' (donkey) for his remarks on Bangladeshi infiltrators.
"We are allowing Modi to campaign in Bengal is our courtesy, we could have sent him back packing from the airport," said Mamata at the public meet.
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What I don't understand is, why Modi is such a terror for the rest of the politicians. All they have to do is provide good governance. Yet they don't do this. When some one comes about providing good governance. They start bad mouthing him.
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Pratyush wrote:What I don't understand is, why Modi is such a terror for the rest of the politicians. All they have to do is provide good governance. Yet they don't do this. When some one comes about providing good governance. They start bad mouthing him.


:)

I urge you (and all those who have this question) to listen to this video.. and keep it close to heart..
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Just triple checking with gurus here. Varanasi is a guaranteed win for Modi right? Is the drama for the rest of UP?
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KJoishy wrote: This was not SS, it was Modi.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 792216.cms
It wasn't Modi, he's too sharp for a slip like this. Nothing about Rohingias in this report. It was actually Jaitley who was pressured to say "yes" on some faltu MSM channel (Timesnow?) to the Rohingya question. I don't believe he really meant it because we are not by definition or can afford to be the dumping ground for the world's persecuted other than Hindus etc. Jaitley had just said that people like Taslima Nasreen are welcome when the SLIME slipped in the Rohingya thing.

Note that "Rohingyas" are a minority manufactured by the West a la "Dalits" in order to create a handle that can be manipulated and exploited. To the Burmese, there is no such thing as a Rohingya, only an illegal Bangladeshi Muslim who has come to grab land, rape and plunder. Thankfully, the Burmese don't know what a vote bank is, at least not yet.
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KJoishy wrote:Check out Al Taqqiyya.

Declare me PM candidate if Modi is truly secular: Azam Khan
"If Narendra Modi is truly secular, then he should either declare me or BJP leader Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi as prime ministerial candidate," Khan told reporters after his surprise visit here.

"If Modi talks about secularism, then he should have images of Kaba and Babri Masjid along with (that of) Lord Ram in his rallies," the SP leader said.
hahaha what a clown! :rotfl:

If Azam Khan is secular, he should go to Tirupathi, sacrifice his hair, take thirtha, eat Prasad and chant JAI SHRI RAM on his way back.
In that case why did Mulayam Singh not declare him as the CM of UP or is Mulayam Singh not secular?
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Protest thing is gathering momentum in Kashi.

Image

Meanwhile, in Delhi...

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Lets hope that it passes off without any incident.
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Huge crowd both in Delhi and Varanasi, looks like a rally in Varanasi - Modi !
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