Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

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Postby Singha » 17 Oct 2013 12:27

IBNLIVE:

New Delhi: After the controversy over Robert Vadra's land deals, whistleblower IAS officer Ashok Khemka has cried foul yet again after the Haryana government gave a go ahead to file another chargesheet against him. Khemka will be chargesheeted for low sales of seeds when he was the Managing Director of Haryana Seed Development Corporation.

The state government had earlier chargesheeted Khemka for overstepping his jurisdiction in the cancellation of Robert Vadra-DLF land deal. Khemka has been transferred over 40 times in his career for exposing corruption. Khemka had claimed that the Vadra-DLF deal was worth Rs 58 crore and that if all land scams in Haryana were taken into account over the past eight years, the value of scams could be between Rs 20,000 and Rs 3.5 lakh crore. CNN-IBN had accessed Khemka's reply to a government-appointed inquiry committee, which had indicted him earlier this year. Khemka had also highlighted a series of sham transactions undertaken between his company Skylight Hospitality and DLF Universal Limited - beginning 2011 and culminating in 2012. Khemka had claimed Vadra was favoured as he is the son-in-law of Sonia Gandhi. He had kicked up a political storm in 2012 when he alleged irregularities in the land dealings of Robert Vadra and DLF in the state and asked the state government to give him a copy of the inquiry reports conducted by it. Khemka was transferred from Director General Consolidation of Land Holdings and Land Records-cum-Inspector General of Registration to his present posting in the State's Seed Development Corporation shortly after he initiated a probe into land dealings between Vadra and realty giant DLF. A probe report submitted by four deputy commissioners in Haryana had given a "clean chit" to Vadra over his land deals.

Read more at: http://ibnlive.in.com/news/haryana-govt ... ef_article

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Postby Sri » 17 Oct 2013 13:09

PM Modi is no longer a distant possibility - FirstPost

Two opinion polls published today bear this out. While The Times Now-CVoter poll sees the BJP emerging as the single-largest party with 162 seats, The Economic Times poll with Nielsen, which concentrated on Uttar Pradesh and Bihar – which hold the key to 2014 – shows the BJP gaining ground. Nielsen predicts 44 seats for the BJP out of 120 in these two Hindi heartland states. Two things need to be commented upon. Both these polls are important as indicators of trend and momentum, but they are both likely to be wrong for the simple reason that many alliances and political equations could change before 2014. There is nothing like sure defeat to make the Congress want to align with former enemies, and there is nothing like overconfidence to make the BJP make mistakes. The other thing is this: the polls are probably erring on the side of under-estimating the BJP’s gains, again for the simple reason that the momentum is just beginning to build.

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Postby Pratyush » 17 Oct 2013 13:52

^^^

Charging some one for low seed sales, that too for less than one year on the job. Amounts to victimisation and vindictiveness on the part of the ruling dispensation.

To the point of making an example out of Ashok Khemka. We will have to see how the opposition deals with it.

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Postby RajeshA » 17 Oct 2013 15:17

Narayana Rao wrote:So Subramanian Swamy is right. Mms doing a service to nation by not resigning .


I think there is substance in this view. If MMS stays at the helm, the focus would be totally on the lack of governance and corruption of UPA2, on dual centers of power, and on the Dynasty's culpability.

Any change to Salman Khurshid or Meira Kumar would change that focus.

Hence I think the criticism of MMS has to be dosed appropriately. Enough that he is considered unfit to be the PM candidate for LS2014 but not enough to make him resign and be seen as personally culpable - Sort of the least rotten part of a very very rotten UPA.

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Postby RajeshA » 17 Oct 2013 15:54

Sushupti wrote:The BJP’s third “apostate”, Marandi, has signalled loud and clear that he has no intention of coming “home”. Marandi, a former Jharkhand chief minister, is set to be part of an anti-Modi convention slated to take place in Delhi on October 30 with the Left, the Samajwadi Party and the Janata Dal (United).

Although rooted in the RSS, Marandi, said a source close to him, “now swears by secularism and will not compromise on his belief”. BJP sources, on the other hand, claimed his real peeve was with party president Rajnath Singh whom he has blamed for marginalising him and promoting his successor, Arjun Munda. “As long as Rajnath is at the helm, Marandi won’t dream of returning,” a source said.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1131017/j ... 462265.jsp


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Postby vivek.rao » 17 Oct 2013 15:58

RajeshA wrote:
Narayana Rao wrote:So Subramanian Swamy is right. Mms doing a service to nation by not resigning .


I think there is substance in this view. If MMS stays at the helm, the focus would be totally on the lack of governance and corruption of UPA2, on dual centers of power, and on the Dynasty's culpability.

Any change to Salman Khurshid or Meira Kumar would change that focus.

Hence I think the criticism of MMS has to be dosed appropriately. Enough that he is considered unfit to be the PM candidate for LS2014 but not enough to make him resign and be seen as personally culpable - Sort of the least rotten part of a very very rotten UPA.


Yes. But fate of MMS will be same as PVNR. Even if Modi comes, there are enough loyalists of DIEnasty in judiciary,bureaucracy who will chase him and send him to jail. If Sonia wants him to quit and he is doing it now, she will remember that for years until he is finished.

He better keep a tight hold on Queen Bee and PAPPU's secrets and keep blackmailing her.


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Postby vishvak » 17 Oct 2013 16:31

So now con race sycophants don't mind sending their hound dogs after PM and babus.

The same people who stood for con race and as government babus worked for government are now trading charges. The termites are getting away without any charges even when son in law is facing charges of corruption. A lesson for all to learn.

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Postby Virendra » 17 Oct 2013 16:32

Hari Seldon wrote:Image

Congress sources have denied Priyanka doing any national campaign for Congress, saying that all these are just rumours.
Reason is obvious. Her arrival will prove it with authentic seal that Rahul Gandhi has already failed.
That is a message that Congis cannot afford to transmit even implicitly or by accident.

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Postby Pratyush » 17 Oct 2013 16:40

^^^

Conversely, if they wait longer, It will defeat the purpose of bringing in Priyanka. However, if Priyanka was to step forward, after having been be dis-encumbered of the 2 R's.

It can be presented as a deeply reluctant act of an aggrieved woman. Who in the midst of a personal tragedy, is steeping up to defeat kommunal forces. May have some resonance with the voters.

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Postby vishvak » 17 Oct 2013 16:51

Very poor way of politics in country by con race.

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Postby Arunkumar » 17 Oct 2013 16:57

Somehow feel FSB aka 'Indiraamma bill' might be the launchpad for PV considering her resemblance to her grandmother. But people might also be reminded of emergency.

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Postby niran » 17 Oct 2013 17:48

todin Rahul Ghandhi went out to rally the holloi polloi again, first he went to the Temple where the stampede took place
while he was gesticulating wisely some old lady clad in green worn sari asked him what is he doing here? the wounded are in haspatal
over here there is onlee a temple and he is blocking the road which might trigger another stampede

then he addressed a rally where few hundreds of ladies were present, RG tried a tear jerki story of his amma bimar, but the ladies clapped instead
of jerking out tears, perplexed he looked back at his local neta, who explained these are tribals, they do not understand khadi Hindi well ye all can
imagine what happened next? yes?

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Postby manju » 17 Oct 2013 17:56

Rudradev wrote:
manju wrote:http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/et-now/daily/times-now-c-voter-survey-setback-for-congress/videoshow/22719899.cms

A survey done by Times Now, C-Vote, suggest that Congress losing heavily but the BJP will not gain enough to win the election outright either


That report is from the Times Now survey whose results were announced in September.



THIS IS FROM OCTOBER.there was a3hr program on times tv yesterday.

http://www.mediamughals.com/News/1/1/Ar ... _VOTER.htm

KEY HIGHLIGHTS

Bjp improving; congress worsening; turd front to get >200

BJP gains an edge, but no wave seems evident
BJP is 110 seats short of half way mark
BJP gains from July’13 position but gains appear to be moderate
Nitish Kumar seems to be a big loser in Bihar, while there appears to be a revival for Lalu
BJP's gains moderately in U.P. However, Congress is staring at losses.
Jayalalitha comes out trumps in Tamil Nadu
Left Front revival in Kerala.
Congress-NCP suffers losses in Maharashtra.
Congress improves its position in Karnataka.
Congress loses A.P. as Jagan gains ground.
Congress maintains stronghold in Assam.

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Postby SaiK » 17 Oct 2013 18:08

there is one correction in that cartoon - priyanka vadra.

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Postby Rudradev » 17 Oct 2013 18:08

manju wrote:
Rudradev wrote:That report is from the Times Now survey whose results were announced in September.



THIS IS FROM OCTOBER.there was a3hr program on times tv yesterday.
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Boss, visit the link you provided and look at the dateline, right on top of the page.



It says very clearly: Times Now C-voter survey: Setback for Congress? 18 Sep 2013, 10:56PM IST

I am aware that Times Now C-voter did another survey whose results were discussed yesterday, but the link you provided in your previous post is for the old one.

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Postby vishvak » 17 Oct 2013 18:24

Con race must not indulge in bimaar ammi politics.

Bimaar ammi went to USA at cost of whom exactly? Bimaar ammi didn't use dilli hospital services that con race is offering to people.

Is this expected from foren educated ammi and raul to take focus away from development politics?

Foren educated ammi and baba not talking of development and corruption?? How can this be possible??

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Postby muraliravi » 17 Oct 2013 18:43

Rajesh Ji,

So you have just confirmed my fears that Marandi is not coming back to BJP. I am equally worried about the thackeray brothers in Maha. If they reach a deal, then congress-ncp might be in for a full wipe out.

Lets see

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Postby RajeshA » 17 Oct 2013 19:02

muraliravi ji,

I think Babulal Marandi should be allowed to go his own way. He has some background in RSS, so there is a chance that on the secular team, he would look after Bharatiya interests. Let him replace JMM and Congress in Jharkhand.


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Postby vivek.rao » 17 Oct 2013 19:31

vishvak wrote:Con race must not indulge in bimaar ammi politics.

Bimaar ammi went to USA at cost of whom exactly? Bimaar ammi didn't use dilli hospital services that con race is offering to people.

Is this expected from foren educated ammi and raul to take focus away from development politics?

Foren educated ammi and baba not talking of development and corruption?? How can this be possible??


Actually they are going to play the bimari ammi. That is their biggest weapon. If some thing happens to Sonia b4 election, what do you think will be the reaction of people? Would they worry about her medical costs?

No. The whole focus is how she was bharat ki bahu and even when she knew she was going to die, all she wanted was food for poor, land for the poor and all the rights to poor Indians.

You want to see the script?

Here it is

http://www.firstpost.com/politics/live- ... 77067.html
And finally he arrives to his ‘mere paas maa hai’ bit. Referring to the Food Bill debate in the Parliament, he says how Sonia fell ill and like all good Hindi film mothers who cough in kitchens, at grocery shops and drinking water queues – anywhere but in front of the son lest he is disturbed by the hitherto unheard of human condition called cough – Sonia, refused to tell Rahul that she is sick. What followed is something that makes Jaya Bachchan quivering under seven layers of make-up as she spots Shah Rukh Khan in Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Gham seem, well, normal. Sonia, says Rahul, refused to leave the Lok Sabha despite her ill health as she wanted to see the Food Bill passed. She stood her ground, said ‘Do whatever you want to, I won’t leave’, and ‘I have struggled for this Bill for years’ before finally exiting, lamenting the fact that she couldn’t ‘press the button’ passing the Bill – no we didn’t make this up, Rahul’s speech writer did!



Imagine 24x7 trumpeting of bichari beta and beti crying and repating this story "Ad nauseam" and broadcast by PAIDMEDIA re-running it morning,evening and night. Don't you think women of India fall for the trick?

I am pretty sure they will.

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Postby Singha » 17 Oct 2013 19:57

one thing is sure RG cannot hold the octupus together if SG retires. so the vested interests who want to keep the party going must surely be planning how to introduce PG as the guardian of the legacy and numero uno C-in-C while RG continues to uh build the youth congress well into old age and looks after party affairs.

it is unknown how bright and sharp PG is. various shades of opinions claim all things. but probably better than RG for sure...not a difficult bar to beat.

question is will SG support PG > RG ? how will this transition be managed , packaged and sold to the public after years of RG being projected as the yuvaraj.

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Postby muraliravi » 17 Oct 2013 19:58

RajeshA wrote:muraliravi ji,

I think Babulal Marandi should be allowed to go his own way. He has some background in RSS, so there is a chance that on the secular team, he would look after Bharatiya interests. Let him replace JMM and Congress in Jharkhand.


I do like that idea, but as far as 2014 is concerned, I really dont want any chances, i straight fight is what should happen everywhere, or there should be 4 solid players, 3 players is BJP's weak spot. So in jharkhand, JMM+cong combine will go strong and Marandi will cut into BJP votes. In UP currently if SP is taking away BJP's OBC vote, Maya is spoiling congress's dalit vote, but the moment, bsp-cong ally, bjp is in trouble unless OBC's and a section of yadavs see the wind and move to BJP. Similarly, marandi voters need to realize that he is a zero as far as 2014 is concerned and need to stick with BJP.

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Postby ramana » 17 Oct 2013 20:07

Rudardev,

I recall you went and got the Nate Silver book "Signal and Noise" on poll predictions. Why not have a google spread sheet of all the past six months and upcoming polls and get the forum consensus of the credibility and start charting the political fortunes, here and in your blog?

PG per bugs in carpet (too lowly to be flies on the wall) has batli problem from all the nikamma family issues.

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Postby vishvak » 17 Oct 2013 20:15

Mere pass maa he is not uncommon. Every politician could say it 24x7 which is needed for preemptive action.

In fact batli and afeen issues are what may actually impact more.

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Postby RajeshA » 17 Oct 2013 20:17

muraliravi wrote:
RajeshA wrote:muraliravi ji,

I think Babulal Marandi should be allowed to go his own way. He has some background in RSS, so there is a chance that on the secular team, he would look after Bharatiya interests. Let him replace JMM and Congress in Jharkhand.


I do like that idea, but as far as 2014 is concerned, I really dont want any chances, i straight fight is what should happen everywhere, or there should be 4 solid players, 3 players is BJP's weak spot. So in jharkhand, JMM+cong combine will go strong and Marandi will cut into BJP votes. In UP currently if SP is taking away BJP's OBC vote, Maya is spoiling congress's dalit vote, but the moment, bsp-cong ally, bjp is in trouble unless OBC's and a section of yadavs see the wind and move to BJP. Similarly, marandi voters need to realize that he is a zero as far as 2014 is concerned and need to stick with BJP.


I'm not so sure Babulal Marandi would be so much a competition for Modi in Jharkhand in 2014 LS elections. The good part is that the current state govt. in Jharkhand is a JMM-INC govt, and hence it would get the full brunt of Central anti-incumbency.

JVM would be moving in to get a bigger share of JMM votes as well as Muslim votes, as Muslims know that INC and JMM candidates would be weaker.

Those Hindu votes which would have come to BJP would be BJP's anyway due to Modi. Marandi would have no share in those votes. Especially in a Lok Sabha election, the electorate would have the real thing - Modi, so why vote for Marandi.

I'm expecting JVM to do well. JMM and Congress are about to collapse. BJP may end up with 8 seats again.

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Postby kapilrdave » 17 Oct 2013 20:19

SaiK wrote:there is one correction in that cartoon - priyanka vadra.

It is not a big deal to remove Vadra and regain Gandhi :wink: .

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Postby muraliravi » 17 Oct 2013 20:21

kapilrdave wrote:
SaiK wrote:there is one correction in that cartoon - priyanka vadra.

It is not a big deal to remove Vadra and regain Gandhi :wink: .


Similarly, I dont think it is a big deal to remove both Vadra and Gandhi

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Postby Atri » 17 Oct 2013 20:28

:mrgreen:


its getting less funny now a days.. perhaps this is a congi trick.. to make him do so much q-tiyapa that people get bored and elect congress again..

this is latest balatkaar-bhrashtachar goof by shahzada.. remembered chatur from three idiots. :D

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Postby vivek.rao » 17 Oct 2013 20:32

kapilrdave wrote:
SaiK wrote:there is one correction in that cartoon - priyanka vadra.

It is not a big deal to remove Vadra and regain Gandhi :wink: .


Vadra knows. His sister,brother and father were removed one way or the other. If mafia wants, his plane can crash any time

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Postby vishvak » 17 Oct 2013 20:39

:rotfl: best debut award 2010 for foreign return honors graduate; best comedy award 2010 and golden lion award 2010.

Award winning speech, raul the foreign educated.

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Postby Karan M » 17 Oct 2013 20:42

Dhananjay wrote:
Karan M wrote:>>Yesterday morning, former Lok Sabha Speaker and NCP rebel Purno A. Sangma called on Yeddyurappa in Bangalore.

Worthless opportunist.


Actually Karan, I remember seeing Sangma on 'Aap ki Adalat' in late 90s and he spoke against churches preaching many anti-national things in north east. He had said for example priests tell christians not to follow birth control, "although I'm a christian but i oppose such acts of church."

That's why inspite of being a christian a reaping benefits like ambika soni, antony, chidambram he opposed a foreigner ruling our country.


That may be, but by exhorting yeddy to stay separate and put pressure on the govt, etc it just shows that he craves power as versus doing what the nation requires right now which is to kick out the INC.

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Postby SaiK » 17 Oct 2013 21:01

15M slaves in India.. oppty to Modi to win their votes.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... epage=true

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Postby saumitra_j » 17 Oct 2013 21:07

:rotfl: Atri dada, this bloke is real world Chatur.....

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Postby krishnan » 17 Oct 2013 21:13

wonder whats is going through rajmata's mind these days

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Postby archan » 17 Oct 2013 21:39

If he knew better Hindi, he could have saved himself by saying, balatkaar is also bhrasht acharan.
Jinki buddhi aur charitra bhrasht ho jaate hain, wohi balatkar jaise kukarm karte hain. :rotfl:

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Postby Suraj » 17 Oct 2013 21:41

Would someone please translate that short video snippet of RG ?

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Postby Sushupti » 17 Oct 2013 21:46

Suspended UP leaders start fast-unto-death over ‘bemaar’ Sonia hoarding

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“Before putting up the hoarding, we had shown it to city and district Congress committee leaders who gave their approval,” said Haseeb Ahmad while talking to Hindustan Times at the Anand Bhawan on Thursday.

“They were the ones who made some changes and asked us to go ahead. Earlier, these very leaders were talking about the possibility of Priyanka being fielded from here and had urged workers like us to put up hoardings in the city with the demand that Priyanka be fielded from Phoolpur,” Haseeb added.

The hoarding, in Hindi, said, “Maiya ab rehti bemaar. Bhaiyya par barh gaya bhaar. Priyankar Phoolpur se bano ummidwar (Mother remains ill. The burden on brother has become heavy. Priyanka, contest from Phoolpur).

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-new ... 36501.aspx

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Postby Vikas » 17 Oct 2013 22:02

Why does congress expose pappu by letting him speak in rallies and then getting them telecasted on TV.
The more he appears on TV and public, more he loses.
Now in todays rally he was talking about Corruption of BJP. I mean what does he think of voters who are paid to come and listen to this non-sense. The guy would not open his mouth on the scam that has almost engulfed the "Man with integrity" PM.
One nod from SC and the old man will be sharing Tihar Jail but not a squeal on that.
Any half intelligent kid in his place would have swept the nation but alas He isn't the hope that congress is dying to make him to be.


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