Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

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Postby Yagnasri » 12 May 2014 06:34

Disqualify Smruthi Irani after she gets elected or before that and find Pappu lost the election? Either way it will be extremely embarrassing situation reducing the nation to a level of a Banana Republic. I wonder (YSR)Sampath has that many guts. He is no doubt will be advised by mafia to do so.

But with NM becoming PM soon, decision to disqualify someone he discribed as younger sister? ECI people need B*Ls of Titanium.

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Postby RamaY » 12 May 2014 06:40

^ it all depends on if Modi gets 272+ or NDA gets 272+ or NDA+ gets 272+

We are set for the next revolution of Bharat in next 5yrs.

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Postby SriKumar » 12 May 2014 06:41

This potential for disqualification is an amazing situation.....the phrase 'vinaasha kaale ...' comes to mind.

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Postby Muppalla » 12 May 2014 06:44

SriKumar wrote:This potential for disqualification is an amazing situation.....the phrase 'vinaasha kaale ...' comes to mind.


There is no way someone can survive if the spending is counted. But disqualification cannot happen anytime soon as it is all after accounting. They have a month's time I believe to give how much they spent.

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Postby SwamyG » 12 May 2014 07:15

Thanks to all who participated in my OT question :-)

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Postby sooraj » 12 May 2014 07:20

sivab wrote:http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/lok-sabha-polls-2014-ec-may-disqualify-smriti-irani-over-narendra-modis-amethi-rally/articleshow/34988372.cms

Lok Sabha polls 2014: EC may disqualify Smriti Irani over Narendra Modi’s Amethi rally

Narendra Modi's rally in Uttar Pradesh's Amethi constituency on May 5 has come under scrutiny for possibly exceeding the expenditure limit for a candidate set by the Election Commission, a top official of the poll watchdog told ET on the condition of anonymity. While EC is yet to reach a final conclusion, an adverse finding could result in the disqualification of BJP Amethi candidate, Smriti Irani, leading to another flashpoint between the Commission and the party.

"The expenditure observer of the Commission has pointed out the lavish nature of the rally and a probe is on to determine whether the expenses exceeded Rs 70 lakh limit prescribed by EC. The purpose of the probe is to determine whether Irani has violated Section 77 and 78 of the representation of people act (RPA) ," said a senior official of the Commission under the condition of anonymity.

Amethi, represented by Congress vice president Rahul Gandhi witnessed a bitter campaign between the Congress and BJP's Irani with the former accusing the latter of distributing "venomous" literature against the Gandhis in their bastion.

The Congress will also officially complain about the Modi rally and press for Irani's disqualification this week. "The party is in no mood to forgive given the nature of campaign mounted by Irani and the BJP," says a top Congress leader.

Irani could not be reached for comment but a BJP leader close to her told ET this was "vintage tit for tat politics by the EC. We haven't received any complaint or notice," said the leader.

Section 77 of the RPA talks of the requirement to maintain true and correct accounts of spending and section 78 requires that these accounts to the filed with the electoral authorities.

Candidates can be barred from contesting elections for a variety of offences including filing of improper accounts under Section 10(A) of the RPA. The maximum period of disqualification is six years.

An official in the Election Commission dismissed the allegation that the poll watchdog was being vindictive, stating that team Modi's problems with the Commission have only started post April 30, after the Commission ordered an FIR be registered against the BJP Prime Ministerial candidate for flouting rules. The official also pointed out that in the case of Irani, since she had taken "advantage" of the rally ----as well as the fact she was mentioned by Modi in his speech and was present on the ..

Explaining the process by which the Commission calculated election expenditure, the person cited earlier said the intention was to ensure a level playing field. "The Election Commission comes out with a price list of equipment, furniture and other election related expenses in every constituency to ensure level playing field. In these elections, the Commission is also carrying out extensive video surveillance of every rally to capture details like evidence of vehicles, furniture, rostrum, chairs, ..

"There are also expenditure observers appointed in each constituency and the lavishness of the Modi rally was brought up by the local observers. We have asked them to conduct a detailed probe and they would be getting in touch with the candidate also," said the official.



Its all out war by congress and EC. Seems they are confirming that Pappu has lost in Amethi... :mrgreen: :rotfl:



this news is only in economic times :?:

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Postby KJo » 12 May 2014 07:32

IndraD wrote:0n 16 May if NaMo wins, newstraders/SM
1. communal forces rising
2. booth rigging by BJP
3. paid media helped BJP
4. some muslim Imams whining
5. India should be ready for civil war
6. any riot, rape anywhere including Bengal, NaMo is responsible
7. RSS running country
8. India is not secular


If NaMo wins, these newstraders will tuck tail and shout NaMo ki jai. They have no principles, they just parrot whatever for their monetary gain.

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Postby KJo » 12 May 2014 07:34

SwamyG wrote:
Singha wrote:^^ Sufism

maybe. but see before B'ji did the Khulasa, pretty much ALL of brf had brought into the sufi / syncretic Kool-aid from the media and sarkari history.
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There are many in South who would just cringe at the name of Islam. They don't care about Sufism, Shia, Sunni ityadi. All this Ganga-jamuna tehzeeb is not part of the narrative in South. Islam like Christianity was viewed as a monolithic entity. Their nuances were not discussed. People just hated those religions or just did not care.


My grandfather got Alzheimers when he was 85 and lost his memory but would get flashbacks of the 1940s and would talk about Muslims in unfavorable terms. He was very mild mannered in general, these were old experiences bubbling up.

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Postby vivek.rao » 12 May 2014 07:41

Muppalla wrote:This way they can actually disqualify everyone selectively.


Suresh En ‏@surnell 13h
For those who were asking CEC Sampath's email ID is vs.sampath@eci.gov.in
Reach him on 011-23716552 or 011-23713689


Guys! Flood the email box of the eunuch 10 Sampath and even call and protest

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Postby Pratyush » 12 May 2014 08:03

Modi will loose only. He will loose his deposit. Baba khujili wall will win onlee :(( :(( :((

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Postby Anantha » 12 May 2014 08:15

Khujli baba is live on TV now. He is a staunch Hindu today has three finger Bhasma and Kumkum on his forehead. Looks like Muslim votes were not available, a quick aarti this morning at Ganga to fool yindoos.

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Postby sivab » 12 May 2014 08:16

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ANIVerified account ‏@ANI_news

Varanasi : Yes we will win,Modi ji is losing.Ajay Rai ji is not even in the contest-Arvind Kejriwal


:rotfl:

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Postby member_28359 » 12 May 2014 08:38

http://epaper.telegraphindia.com/details/79586-174540.html

About dynasties and their progressively increasing ineffectiveness....
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Postby Neela » 12 May 2014 08:45

Ajai Rai 's deliberate violation looks either stupid or sinister. Stupid because it looks like an act of a bad loser who knows the outcome. Sinister because he could be made a sacrificial lamb by stooge EC before acting on BJP . Smithi Irani could be taken down after this.

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Postby Anantha » 12 May 2014 08:59

http://indiaevm.org/qa.html
EVM's can be manipulated

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Postby Nitesh » 12 May 2014 09:17

This is getting idiotic

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 989731.cms

Can't this decision just wait for some days

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Postby KLP Dubey » 12 May 2014 09:41

Neela wrote:Ajai Rai 's deliberate violation looks either stupid or sinister. Stupid because it looks like an act of a bad loser who knows the outcome. Sinister because he could be made a sacrificial lamb by stooge EC before acting on BJP . Smithi Irani could be taken down after this.


According to a trusted 'distant' relative (maternal grandfather's son-in-law's mother's daughter's bhabhi) who is about a decade senior to Sampath and Brahma in AP cadre IAS, these guys are well known in babudom for being sticklers to the rule-book but may have different interpretations....and they have never been known to have taken/given any special favors from/to any party. FWIW.

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Postby sum » 12 May 2014 09:44

Hirannaiah pokes fun at CM, Cong workers go on rampage

Later, Siddaramiah personally saw to it that the artiste was escorted out of his residence under police protection even as party workers poured into the Chief Minister’s house demanding that a case be filed against Hirennaiah. However, no case has been registered in the matter, senior police officials in Mysore said.


Just replace the word CM with Modi and Congress with BJP and this news would have been all over headlines even in Antartica.

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Postby Prem » 12 May 2014 09:48

Sensex Index have already declared Modi as next PM of Bharat.

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Postby Dilbu » 12 May 2014 10:03

NaMo will lose onlee. :(( :(( :((

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Postby Yagnasri » 12 May 2014 10:45

Sampath was appointed by mafia queen so that he will be EC upto 2015 at the advise of YSR gang. He may be "honest" but just like MMS "honesty" he will be loyal to mafia.

Is it not worth noting that 2 or the 3 ECs are from AP cadre, wherein huge loot was taking place under YSR? Mafia plan well for this kind of things. Only thing misjudged is the NM and peoples hatred towards mafia.

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Postby Sri » 12 May 2014 11:04

Dilbu Ji i remember the World cup day Jinx.. it worked... so here goes...

NAMO will lose onlee :(( :(( :((

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Postby Dilbu » 12 May 2014 11:06

Stakes are much higher this time saar. so zor se bolo: Modi will lose onlee. :((

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Postby NikhilB » 12 May 2014 11:30

Based on previous experience, which exit poll would be most authentic ? And which one would be least ?

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Postby manish singh » 12 May 2014 11:35

Har har bolo: NAMO will lose only :(( :((

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Postby chaanakya » 12 May 2014 11:37

Whooping Voting by 11 AM

UP 21%
Bihar 25%
WB 40%

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Postby Karan M » 12 May 2014 11:39

NikhilB wrote:Based on previous experience, which exit poll would be most authentic ? And which one would be least ?


CSDS was accurate with recent state elections.

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Postby chaanakya » 12 May 2014 11:41

For All Love Jehaardi's

In Islam, woman returning to earlier faith can end marriage if she likes: Delhi high court
Abhinav Garg,TNN | May 12, 2014, 06.26 AM IST



NEW DELHI: Interpreting a 75-year-old law, Delhi high court has held that a non-Muslim woman who embraces Islam after marriage but reconverts to her original faith can dissolve the union due to apostasy.

Granting divorce under the Dissolution of Muslim Marriages Act 1939 to Sultana (name changed), a division bench of Justice S Ravindra Bhat and ​Justice Najmi Waziri also clarified there is no requirement in such circumstances for a woman who leaves the pale of Islam to prove her act in a trial. The mere act of apostasy dissolves the marriage if she so desires.

"Were a woman married under Muslim personal law to apostatize, the marriage stands dissolved. In such circumstances, the woman is entitled to seek a decree of declaration that the marriage stands dissolved from the date of her apostatizing," Justice Waziri explained.

The bench went into the circumstances under which the pre-Independence act was passed in 1939 to emphasize, if people come or are brought into Islam from a different religion, they should be permitted to go back for which there should be no bar.

The HC was hearing an appeal filed by the husband Asif (name changed) challenging the grant of divorce by a Saket family court to Sultana on her petition. Asif contested Sultana's reconversion back to Hinduism and alleged she did it under pressure from her parents. Asif also cited Section 4 of the Dissolution of Muslim Marriages Act to contend that it prohibits dissolution of marriage only on the ground of apostasy.

On her part, the estranged wife argued that for her reconversion to Hinduism no evidence is required to be led, as her mere statement 'ipso facto' amounts to abjuration of Islam and its tenets. She also filed an affidavit admitting to her apostasy along with two fatwas from two mufti. The wife also informed the court she had withdrawn complaint filed under Domestic Violence Act and another petition seeking maintenance. Now that she had apostatized, neither the marriage nor any right to claim maintenance subsisted.

The HC agreed with the trial court verdict and ruled that Section 4 has not altered the rule of Muslim personal law that apostasy dissolves a marriage. "In the opinion of this court, all that Section 4 has done is to introduce an intervening mechanism, but to reach the same conclusion, i.e., that apostasy would not by itself dissolve the marriage and some further substantive act would be required to be done in this regard; the substantive act being the filing of a suit seeking declaration as to dissolution," it observed. However, it rejected Asif's argument that Sultana would have to prove her apostasy..

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Postby Arjun » 12 May 2014 11:48

Per 5forty3, early trends point to NaMo comfortably ahead in Varanasi though lead is not gigantic....More importantly, Ajay Rai seems to be second and not Kejriwal.

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Postby Nitesh » 12 May 2014 11:58

farzilal is legging, seems RG rally has made the minorities to vote for Congress, hope he loses his deposit

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Postby chaanakya » 12 May 2014 12:13

Congress' Ajay Rai in a soup after using party symbol; EC orders inquiry

In a deliberate act , after NaMo showing symbol outside 100 Mts, Ajai Rai shows symbol inside the Polling station . TV reports indicate that EC ordered FIR. Mr Rai has defended his action saying he is showing symbol before casting his vote while NaMo was showing after casting his vote. Presumably, Mr Rai could have voted for symbol other than Panja.
Agencies Varanasi, May 12, 2014
First Published: 11:38 IST(12/5/2014) | Last Updated: 11:41 IST(12/5/2014)

Dressed in a cream colour kurta and pyjama, Rai walked into the polling station early in the day accompanied by his wife to cast his vote.

He also spoke to reporters within 10 metres of the polling station, which again is a breach of law.

"We have called for the CCTV footage of the polling booth and action will be taken after examining the same," special election observer Praveen Kumar told PTI in Varanasi.

Kumar also said that flashing of election symbol at the booth is violation of Section 130 of the Representation of Peoples Act and a report will be sent to the chief election commissioner after an inquiry into this matter.

A report has also been sought from the local administration.

The Congress defended Rai saying the BJP is using double standards.

"The BJP earlier said there was nothing wrong with Narendra Modi wearing the lotus symbol and now it is saying take action against Ajay Rai," said Congress spokesperson Meem Afzal.

Rai too defended his action saying that he has the right to wear the symbol as a candidate.

Rai also claimed that his action cannot be compared with the case against Narendra Modi as the BJP's prime ministerial candidate had shown his party's lotus symbol after casting vote.

An FIR was lodged against the Gujarat chief minister after he addressed a presser on April 30 outside a polling station in Ahmedabad''s Gandhinagar constituency and had clicked a selfie with his party's symbol in his hand.

The district administration had then clarified that Modi was well outside the 100 metre banned distance when the press conference took place.

Modi is also fighting Lok Sabha elections from Varanasi.

AAP's Arvind Kejriwal raised objections about Rai wearing the 'hand' badge in the polling booth and told reporters that Rai had clearly violated the law.

The BJP leaders also raised objections and sought an action against Rai by the Election Commission

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Postby chaanakya » 12 May 2014 12:23

Many are talking about comeback of Lathbandhan by Jail ke Panchi. Biharis would give them very unpleasant surprise to all such Lathbandhan and Gathabandhan. NiKuddin is gone with the wind and Jail ke Panchi would return to their Basera. Never again those dark days, Bihar still remembers even though anal-Yeats conveniently forgets the bitter truth about Jail ke Panchi.

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Postby IndraD » 12 May 2014 13:00

all ajay rai and pillus are copy cats, there is a TMC leader in WB flashing a small plant with his finger on CNN, EC not even interested.
BTW large scale violence in WB, TMC, CPM clash
Bomb hurled at BJP leader's house bada bazar, kolkata

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Postby pankajs » 12 May 2014 13:05

Mirror of India ‏@anilkapurk May 10

Mr Arnab @timesnow This news about 1984 is never repeated on TV/News papers (unlike skull cap & anti BJP news) pic.twitter.com/aonHUXWivO
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Postby IndraD » 12 May 2014 13:25

In the last 12 years gifts worth Rs. 19Cr have been deposits by Modi towards the state treasury.

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Postby chaanakya » 12 May 2014 13:26

MediaCrooks @mediacrooks · 17m

Good point.. @tanyasohum EC plans to disqualify Smriti.. and balance it by disqualifying a loser like Ajay Rai..

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Postby negi » 12 May 2014 13:33

^ It will also give news traders a nice opportunity to run a story on lines of had Ajai Rai not been disqualified may be he would have defeated Modi , all in all another opportunity to deny Modi what is rightfully his.

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Postby sum » 12 May 2014 13:38

Nice unbiased article. Have to doff my hat at this great man for the amount of sheer energy and will power shown:
Elections 2014: How Modi’s sharp campaign helped BJP move ahead

No chief minister, prior to Narendra Modi, had ran for the Prime Minister's post in India. According to the political rule book that all parties have followed till date, a leader has to establish his credentials as a politician of national reach and relevance before he contests as a PM nominee. However, Modi decided to let his work in Gujarat speak for himself as he set out to test new waters after being declared BJP's PM candidate. However, he was faced with a stupendous challenge. That of running a successful campaign for the BJP in the national elections and run a state. A source close to Modi told Firstpost that he had made it very clear that he will not shift his base to Delhi just to run a national campaign and he decided to run the show from Gandhinagar itself. It couldn't have been an easy job to do. To be the chief minister of the state and be the alliance builder, crisis manager and campaigner for a national party. In course of one day, sources say, Gujarat's CM packed in yoga, meeting party members, keeping a tab on social media and then address rallies in at faraway corners of the country. His day usually starts at 5am.


After a hectic day, when Modi returns home, sources say, several groups of people wait to meet him with their problems. Several of this visitors hold meetings with Modi individually or in groups. Such meetings extended way past midnight. “It should be noted that despite being announced the PM candidate, till the Model Code of Conduct was announced, Modiji continued to chair all cabinet meetings, attended assembly sessions and was involved in the presentation of the state budget as well," BJP spokesperson Meenakshi Lekhi said. During the ten-day Navratra period in April, Modi reportedly survived only on nimbu paani. However, the hardships don't seem to bother Modi. In his latest blog post, updated on Saturday, he says, "The unprecedented blessings I have received from the people have been very humbling. Conventional wisdom would suggest such a campaign would be tiring but I am experiencing a deep satisfaction and freshness that one would feel after a long and elaborate Sadhna. When I look back at the entire campaign, three words come to my mind – Extensive, Innovative and Satisfying.”

Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/how-m ... ef_article


His team then came up with another idea - levying an entry fee of Rs 5 at his rallies. As rivals mocked the idea and party men defended it, the buzz remained strongly focused on the his series of rallies. Finally, Modi overcame language barriers and poor organisational base of the BJP in Andhra to clinch an ally in TDP. He led the march in Tamil Nadu too and for the first time, the contest in TN is going to be a triangular one compared to the usual two-way one. He also aggressively campaigned in West Bengal, Orissa, Assam, Manipur, Arunachal Pradesh etc. Before him, no other leader had ever paid as much importance to every state in the country. His pleasantly surprised his colleagues in Bihar by holding 30 rallies and meetings in the state alone. Modi should be credited for the transforming this year's polls in the Modi versus his rivals battle. He made it about him, but BJP, which has been out of power for a decade and has not thrown up any other compelling leader, stands to gain from it the most. In fact, he managed to turn him into the axis around which the polls revolve. The Congress wants people to vote against Modi, the Third Front wants people to vote against Modi. The rivals are basically busy asking people to vote against Modi than vote for them.

Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/how-m ... ef_article


In Modi’s own words, the Hunkar Rally held last year in Patna, made him realise that this was a tryst with destiny: “The events of Patna will remain etched in my memory- there were live bombs on one side but the resolve of the people prevailed. Nobody left the venue of the rally. I had a clear message that day that I repeated often during the campaign- we can decide whether we want to fight each other or we want to unite to fight poverty? The former will lead us nowhere while the latter will take our Nation to greater heights.”

Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/how-m ... ef_article

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Postby chaanakya » 12 May 2014 13:46

NEW DELHI: A new army chief looks set to be chosen days before poll results are announced as the Election Commission of India has allowed the UPA government to go ahead with the process, defence ministry officials told ET.

The poll panel's green signal was communicated over the weekend, according to the officials, who did not authorised to speak to the media.

The government is expected to take a final decision on the appointment this week, but an official announcement will only be made on June 1. After Monday's final phase of polling, votes are to be counted on May 16. ET was the first to report on May 2 that the Centre had sought the poll panel's nod on the issue.

The Election Commission's approval has come almost two weeks after the government first sought its nod for picking the next army chief. The EC, however, is tightlipped on the issue.

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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... aign=cppst

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Postby member_28025 » 12 May 2014 13:48

chaanakya wrote:
NEW DELHI: A new army chief looks set to be chosen days before poll results are announced as the Election Commission of India has allowed the UPA government to go ahead with the process, defence ministry officials told ET.

The poll panel's green signal was communicated over the weekend, according to the officials, who did not authorised to speak to the media.

The government is expected to take a final decision on the appointment this week, but an official announcement will o ..

Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... aign=cppst


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