Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

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Postby RajeshA » 16 Nov 2013 02:00

Published on Nov 15, 2013
Rahul Gandhi meets Bihar Congress leaders, no decision on tie-up: PTI

In another politically crucial state - Uttar Pradesh - Congress will go it alone in the Lok Sabha elections, according to AICC General Secretary Madhusudan Mistry.


This could simply be posturing or it may be true.

If Congress allies with BSP, then Samajwadi Party may not willing to support Sonia Gandhi and Rahul Gandhi in their constituencies.

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Postby munna » 16 Nov 2013 09:36

gakakkad wrote:i have heard from some bjp guy that there is a lot of anti incumbency in chattisgarh and mp and bjp faces an uphill task contrary to what we think ...niranullah could u confirm? also con party is managing to cash in on slain leaders in cgarh...in mp 11 ministers face corruption charges and there is trouble in indore and gwalior...how true ?


MP CM is definitely in trouble, a reason he got off the high horse and invited NM in a big way to his state. Raman Singh faces a touch and go situation but may pull through.

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Postby niran » 16 Nov 2013 10:12

munna wrote:MP CM is definitely in trouble, a reason he got off the high horse and invited NM in a big way to his state. Raman Singh faces a touch and go situation but may pull through.

reality check:
in CG the Baster is the pathway to CM chair, there are 18 seats last time Bhajapa won 15 with average voting % 65% with sukuma( congress stronghold) 35%, this time around it has been 75% but (ain't this a beautiful word) Sukuma onree 23% and 14 poll booth total boycotts i.e. onree 0% voted, and people say congraysis will win with their core voters boycotting the elections?!?! hainzee? wake up ye DDM already there has been lot of folks getting hurt laughing and falling off their chairs.

in MP SSC well known and liked even if some of his ministers are not, and they have been replaced or kicked upstairs to work for the cause, one example Rewa zone(where SG was yak yaking yesterday) is considered most important in MP it has 30 seats, in congress
infighting has created 5 different teams in the zone, so much so that the night before SG yak yak congraysis went into fisticuff just to be onstage and the most important neta a whatshername lady was black flagged and sent back without her attending the rally,
have not said anything about rally grounds with security and neta entourage more than attendees. MP and CG is Bhajapa, the fight was for Rajasthan, and NaMo added target dilli so now it is either 4/1 or not.


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Postby Yagnasri » 16 Nov 2013 11:05

Just mention Diggi Raja name and MP is gone for Mafia> I was fortunate to live under his rule and can tell this from personal expireance. Mafia is divided house there. I am worried about C'Garh as Naxal EJ and mafia are all united. But even this Raman may win.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby manju » 16 Nov 2013 11:43

i am seeing lot of negative ad campaigns by congress for MP election in the Hindi channels.

The ads basically depict families complaining no electricity, no water, etc. some ads also talk about corruption. There is nothing about what the congress will do if they come to power.

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Postby vishvak » 16 Nov 2013 15:38

Funny how empty seats of pseudo Gandhis are never highlighted. The paid media is happy to show just one party as popular for some reason across while other as polarizing!

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Postby gakakkad » 16 Nov 2013 17:31

manju wrote:i am seeing lot of negative ad campaigns by congress for MP election in the Hindi channels.

The ads basically depict families complaining no electricity, no water, etc. some ads also talk about corruption. There is nothing about what the congress will do if they come to power.



true...con certainly won't bring power and water...but such ads can nevertheless have an electoral impact..

In MP BJP will get lesser seats than last time...they ll get a simple majority most likely..con party in fighting is a factor that has helped it the most..sscs performance was decent ...but he does not command the respect Modi does in Guj..there were some mistakes he made..nothing that should cost him the election ,for he did far more right things than wrong..But con party nevertheless was able to cash on in these minor errors...it ll most likely be a narrow win for bjp..

scindia's are immensely popular and urban voters may fall for the young scindia heir . thankfully doggie supoorters may well sabotage his campaign..

in c'garh ,sources tell me ,that the slain leaders were well loved...they were most likely butchered by jogi/ej/maoist partnership...and they would be able to cash in on it..

ajit jogi is an extremely hated character in urban c'garh..(sadly only 15% of the state is 'urban')..when he was the CM he ran of the most extortionist and murderous regimes in independent India..rivalled by perhaps only lalu in bihar..and perhaps the present dispensation in UP..he could and would extort cash out of any business he laid his eyes upon...anyone who refused was butchered..he had slain entire business families...

But the tribals are blissfuly unaware of this despicable evil..even in the last assembly elections CON party was a triffle 1.3% behind BJP...level of education is so low in some of the inner tribes ,that clown princes antics or Modi's thunderous speeches and record of exemplar governance do not matter..because these people are unaware of existence of them...they still don't know that earth is a sphere and it revolves round the sun...and that is in spite of 10 years of BJP rule that actually tried to change all this...not that it was easy...

those slain leaders were immensely popular in these inner badlands...they did not know modi or clown prince..but they know verma and mudaliar and of course the legendary vc shukla(who should never have left the BJP,someone goofed)...now jogi/ej/maoist are trying to make the attack look like bjps fault...and i hear they are doing it with much success...

God only save the country...c'garh will too be quite close..

if the average Yindian electorate were brfite level ,the dynasty would not have made it this far..and our per capita incomes would have approached soko level last decade..we would have been talking about stuff like shale oil and sustainable energy and social security and university enrolment..comparing test scores of public and private schools..stuff people do in unkil...

but with a large fraction of population not having electricity and basic primary education we are still half a century from that point ...

if BJP has to win elections ,it sadly has to behave like congress and resort to divisive politics,which it has so far done only half heartedly..

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Postby Yagnasri » 16 Nov 2013 18:16

All the educated people knows about Ajit Joghi and his currupt and murderer son. So educated sections may not be willing to vote for Mafia.

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Postby Hari Seldon » 16 Nov 2013 20:00

>>Albatrossinflight ‏@albatrossinfo 10h
Another major setback for Congress as Raja Bundela of Bundelkhand Mukti Morcha joins BJP!

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Postby vivek.rao » 16 Nov 2013 20:07

MMS Rally... Spot the people there

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby manju » 16 Nov 2013 20:59

That is a beautiful place!! Where is it?

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Postby vivek.rao » 16 Nov 2013 21:30

manju wrote:That is a beautiful place!! Where is it?


Chattisgarh I think

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Postby fanne » 16 Nov 2013 23:11

guys keep this handy, soon somebody from cong is going to tweet this was from NAMO rally.

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Postby Sushupti » 16 Nov 2013 23:57

vivek.rao wrote:
manju wrote:That is a beautiful place!! Where is it?


Chattisgarh I think


Mizoram

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Postby muraliravi » 17 Nov 2013 02:41

Rajnath, Modi oppose alliance with RLD

The BJP is divided over aligning with Rashtriya Lok Dal leader Ajit Singh in Uttar Pradesh. Singh, who is in danger of losing his Jat support base in western Uttar Pradesh over the Muzaffarnagar riots, is keen on an alliance with the BJP. But both Narendra Modi and Rajnath Singh are opposed to it. Ajit Singh recently approached Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi, but was turned down at the behest of Modi and Rajnath Singh. However, Sushma Swaraj is lobbying for an alliance with the RLD leader. The presence of Ajit Singh's daughter-in-law at Swaraj's karva chauth function raised many eyebrows. Serious differences also exit between Swaraj and the Rajnath-Modi duo over joining hands with Om Prakash Chautala in Haryana and Prafulla Mahanta in Assam. The Modi-Rajnath duo want these alliances, but not Swaraj.

http://www.sunday-guardian.com/buzzword

Its time to kick this lady out of bjp.

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Postby RajeshA » 17 Nov 2013 04:13

Published on Nov 16, 2013
By Navtan Kumar
Kiran Bedi likely to get BJP ticket to fight Lok Sabha election: Sunday Guardian

Former Indian Police Service (IPS) officer Kiran Bedi is likely to be offered a Bharatiya Janata Party ticket for contesting the Lok Sabha elections next year. A BJP leader said that Bedi is in touch with party leaders on this. "The party is exploring options of fielding her from Delhi's Chandni Chowk constituency. However, it will take some time for her to join the party. It will not happen at least till the Assembly elections are over," the source said.

"Many senior leaders, including Nitin Gadkari, wanted her to join the BJP before the Assembly elections so that she could be projected as Delhi's chief ministerial candidate. However, national president Rajnath Singh and state BJP president Vijay Goel vehemently opposed the idea. This destroyed her chances," he added.


Such rumors do come up every now and then, and Kiran Bedi does quash them, saying she does not wish to enter electoral politics, but you never know.

Considering that Vijay Goel is not in the running for CM anymore, he should not be having anything against Kiran Bedi entering the scene. However with Dr. Harsh Vardhan as BJP candidate for Delhi CM, it does not seem likely that Kiran Bedi would fight State Assembly elections. But if she enters BJP beforehand, she could campaign for BJP openly in the polls.

On the other hand, keeping the powder dry, is also a good strategy. By remaining aloof from politics till just before the LS elections are declared, Kiran Bedi gets to retain her popularity.

If she does enters BJP and Parliament, she would definitely be a powerful face in BJP.

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Postby RajeshA » 17 Nov 2013 04:47

At the moment DMK is continuously moving away from Congress, and it is becoming more unlikely that the two would go into elections in an alliance.

- DMK criticizes Salman Khurshid's visit to CHOGM in Sri Lanka
- DMK against the JPC report on 2G Scam

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Yagnasri » 17 Nov 2013 05:03

K Bedi could be useful in police reforms area. If BJP does something serious here than people will be saved from lot of things police do. Particularly poor and middle class people. Politicos power will also be seriously deminished.

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Postby Muppalla » 17 Nov 2013 05:18

Pranab ‘may not sign’ Telangana Bill

President Pranab Mukherjee is said to have assured Andhra Pradesh leaders that he will not sign the bill creating Telangana if it comes to him without being passed by the state Assembly. Mukherjee, who was the chairman of the Group of Ministers on Telangana before becoming President, had refused to take any decision on the matter as he was opposed to the bifurcation of the state. The President has also indicated to his close associates that after the next elections, he would ask the party or pre poll alliance that gets the maximum number of seats to form government, be it the UPA or NDA.


This is buzzword and to me a speculation as I lost belief in everything. If this happens then the story will change forever. BJP can remove this Telangana stuff even from their manifesto. There is no chance forever that this bifurcation getting passed in AP assembly. I just can't imagine such a thing.

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Postby Hari Seldon » 17 Nov 2013 05:20

Kiran bedi has a lot of goodwill among the northern urbans IMO. Should leverage it in LS polls, if it comes to that. I don't see what a strong and ambitiou lady like her can aspire to in dynastic parties like INC, BSP etc... BJP is her only chance to do public service (on a whole new scale) that she claims passion for.

Sushmaben is becoming more problematic by the day. LKA at least had the grace to semi-retire after the leadership struggle got decided one way or another... the charitable explanation for sushma's meddlingis that she's helping party's bargaining chips by raising its unpredictability factor up a tad in political negotiations... But I suspect that's not what's going on.

Sad part is NM-Rajnath don't still seem to have a full handle on the party. They should be able to get their way, after due consultation and all, as first among equals... no? So far, that doesn't seem to be happening as often as it should. I understand they'll pick their battles carefully but an internal saboteur who's inside the tent and pissing in....tut-tut

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Postby Muppalla » 17 Nov 2013 05:51

Hari Seldon wrote:Sad part is NM-Rajnath don't still seem to have a full handle on the party. They should be able to get their way, after due consultation and all, as first among equals... no? So far, that doesn't seem to be happening as often as it should. I understand they'll pick their battles carefully but an internal saboteur who's inside the tent and pissing in....tut-tut


Everything has a timing. when BJP hits 4-0 and at that time she may be shown her spot.

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Postby devesh » 17 Nov 2013 07:46

it's time to kick Ajit Singh types where it hurts most. these guys gain leverage due to the 1-5% votes they are able to get in their strongholds.

situation in UP has changed. this is idea time to take care of festering sores like him. no alliance crap. after elections, if AS wants to remain relevant, he can merge or cut his ambitions to size. until then, no question of entertaining them.

in the end, BJP might not get to power with this strategy in 2014, but it will gain the respect of the population. it will resoundingly position itself as a "different" party, and that will make its own impression. 2014 is ONLY important in the sense that it is forcing many small-time players to pick sides due to Namo-fear. this is always good. it forces the players to reveal their hands and the people get a chance to look behind the words and speeches.

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Postby Hari Seldon » 17 Nov 2013 14:23

RG's popular appeal seen showing signs of improvement of late in Dilli... seems like...

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Postby Yagnasri » 17 Nov 2013 14:24

It has to get power in 2014 sir, no option is there. AS lost lot of votes in the riots and now cut to size. His Dubai deal is a major loot issue which may be coming out if BJP come to power. So he wants to be in BJP. He was with NDA and enjoyed power. Now with UPA and enjoyed power and now want to come back to NDA to enjoy power. Just like DMK. There is no need to take his help. People now are angry with Islamic mafia rule in UP and even Jat leaders are exposed to the AS s**t politics and come 2014 BJP can defeat him and teach him a lesson.

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Postby Lisa » 17 Nov 2013 14:37

Hari Seldon wrote:RG's popular appeal seen showing signs of improvement of late in Dilli... seems like...

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Postby Hari Seldon » 17 Nov 2013 14:40

^^ Sheila asking 'crowd' (such as there was) to stay back and at least listen to RG. (that's the Hindi part highlighted on screen).

Crowd prolly told their handlers that this was all they could expect for the money they gave...

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Postby subhamoy.das » 17 Nov 2013 18:32

Muppalla wrote:Pranab ‘may not sign’ Telangana Bill

President Pranab Mukherjee is said to have assured Andhra Pradesh leaders that he will not sign the bill creating Telangana if it comes to him without being passed by the state Assembly. Mukherjee, who was the chairman of the Group of Ministers on Telangana before becoming President, had refused to take any decision on the matter as he was opposed to the bifurcation of the state. The President has also indicated to his close associates that after the next elections, he would ask the party or pre poll alliance that gets the maximum number of seats to form government, be it the UPA or NDA.


This is buzzword and to me a speculation as I lost belief in everything. If this happens then the story will change forever. BJP can remove this Telangana stuff even from their manifesto. There is no chance forever that this bifurcation getting passed in AP assembly. I just can't imagine such a thing.


Pranabda is a IG/SG loyalist and hence will NOT show any mercy to the Sonia/RG camp. So rest assured that he will return the bill.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby gunjur » 17 Nov 2013 18:42

Just came back to bengaluru by bus from raichur (in north karnataka), all the way long everywhere one finds posters, cutouts of congress/siddaramaiah. Though i did find few bharata gellisi (modi rally in bengaluru) posters here and there. But if the posters were to tell any story, it says a lot about the karnataka bjp being nowhere near the power they were just few years back. 2009 it seems is way way back. Irrespective of bharata gellisi rally being a success or not, bjp karnataka unit has to do a lot of work before its in the reckoning. :( :( :(

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Postby Shanmukh » 17 Nov 2013 18:47

Gunjur wrote:Just came back to bengaluru by bus from raichur (in north karnataka), all the way long everywhere one finds posters, cutouts of congress/siddaramaiah. Though i did find few bharata gellisi (modi rally in bengaluru) posters here and there. But if the posters were to tell any story, it says a lot about the karnataka bjp being nowhere near the power they were just few years back. 2009 it seems is way way back. Irrespective of bharata gellisi rally being a success or not, bjp karnataka unit has to do a lot of work before its in the reckoning. :( :( :(


Unfortunately, this is true. If you came to Bangalore by bus from Raichur, I assume you came by the Bellary route and not the western route. Unless Sreeramulu comes back to the BJP (and brings with him the Reddy money power), the eastern belt of Karnataka is hard for the BJP to win. In large areas of central Karnataka (Raichur, Koppal, Bellary, Chitradurga, Davanagere, etc), the BJP is almost not even in existence.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby BhairavP » 17 Nov 2013 18:51

On the other hand, I came from Mangalore to Virajpet and there were a bunch of Modi posters out there.. are they strong in DK? I thought that was an ROP belt, no?

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Postby gunjur » 17 Nov 2013 19:03

BhairavP wrote:On the other hand, I came from Mangalore to Virajpet and there were a bunch of Modi posters out there.. are they strong in DK? I thought that was an ROP belt, no?


KaravaLi (Coastal karnataka) was in some ways the launching pad for bjp in karnataka. Even today organisationally they are strong there.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby gunjur » 17 Nov 2013 19:11

nageshks wrote:
Gunjur wrote:Just came back to bengaluru by bus from raichur (in north karnataka), all the way long everywhere one finds posters, cutouts of congress/siddaramaiah. Though i did find few bharata gellisi (modi rally in bengaluru) posters here and there. But if the posters were to tell any story, it says a lot about the karnataka bjp being nowhere near the power they were just few years back. 2009 it seems is way way back. Irrespective of bharata gellisi rally being a success or not, bjp karnataka unit has to do a lot of work before its in the reckoning. :( :( :(


Unfortunately, this is true. If you came to Bangalore by bus from Raichur, I assume you came by the Bellary route and not the western route. Unless Sreeramulu comes back to the BJP (and brings with him the Reddy money power), the eastern belt of Karnataka is hard for the BJP to win. In large areas of central Karnataka (Raichur, Koppal, Bellary, Chitradurga, Davanagere, etc), the BJP is almost not even in existence.


The very fact that the gang is BSR_Congress and not BSR Janata party or something like that clearly shows who their real masters are/were. BSR congress is congress mole at the end of the day. BJP can grow/regain inspite of BSR not being inside. Yes, they have to put in more efforts but certainly doable. Actually its a benefit to bjp as BSR gang puts off lot of other people in state. But will sushma allow this?? If yeddyurappa is brought in, she will fight for her "sons" also.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Yagnasri » 17 Nov 2013 19:26

In Karnataka people like Anil Lad and the mining mafia is with INC. So that difficulty is there for BJP. Money is going to be a problem. Particularly when voting % are similar or very near, spending will give serious advantage. But come 2014 BJP may have national level funding issues and anti incumbunsy etc set on siddaramayya. We shall see.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby munna » 17 Nov 2013 19:46

niran wrote:reality check:
in CG the Baster is the pathway to CM chair, there are 18 seats last time Bhajapa won 15 with average voting % 65% with sukuma( congress stronghold) 35%, this time around it has been 75% but (ain't this a beautiful word) Sukuma onree 23% and 14 poll booth total boycotts i.e. onree 0% voted, and people say congraysis will win with their core voters boycotting the elections?!?! hainzee? wake up ye DDM already there has been lot of folks getting hurt laughing and falling off their chairs.


Well, Raman Singh has a good rating personally and therefore he is not out of picture. The voting trend may be along traditional line or may not be but (yes it is a beautiful word indeed) game is still too close to be complacent and error bias if any, should be consciously towards downside.

in MP SSC well known and liked even if some of his ministers are not, and they have been replaced or kicked upstairs to work for the cause, one example Rewa zone(where SG was yak yaking yesterday) is considered most important in MP it has 30 seats, in congress infighting has created 5 different teams in the zone, so much so that the night before SG yak yak congraysis went into fisticuff just to be onstage and the most important neta a whatshername lady was black flagged and sent back without her attending the rally,have not said anything about rally grounds with security and neta entourage more than attendees. MP and CG is Bhajapa, the fight was for Rajasthan, and NaMo added target dilli so now it is either 4/1 or not.


Rajasthan is the best placed state as per BJP walas too and MP is the closest of all. Largely on account of the anti-incumbency faced by MLAs and Ministers who were put in place to decimate Uma Bharti in the first place! SSC is hard pressed to eject them in favour of winnable candidates. Moreover SS being an MP from that state she chooses to assert her role there too.

SSC is up against:-

1) Lingering Vajpayee network (Karuna Shukla, Mishra's extended clan and other damaad)

2) Anti-incumbency of MLAs and Ministers

3) House of Gwalior energizing the INC cadre as against DVS

MP is threatening to go the HP way where the CM started off well in popularity ratings and then fell off the high horse once pitted against a decent rival. This state needs to be guarded. And finally round after round of surveys are showing a differentiated voting trend by electorate for the LS and VS elections therefore no need to treat this as a vote for or against Modi, DDM desperately wants to do that.


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