Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby krishnan » 08 Dec 2013 18:05

ndtv the results has stoped

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby jamwal » 08 Dec 2013 18:05

Do they need to win exactly half or half+1 to form a government ?

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby RajeshA » 08 Dec 2013 18:06

kapilrdave wrote:Folks, Modi is a master of this game. He will "manage" AAP in delhi. BJP WILL form the govt. Expect split in AAP after GE. NM is clear in thoughts. You can impress people only by being in power. Protesting from opposition would be the last thing he would do IMO.


Do agree!

BJP Govt. in Delhi should run for the next 6 months giving good governance with its 34 MLAs. I don't think AAP would let it fall before the elections 2014, cuz then the Delhi voters would be extremely mad at AAP.

After 2014, BJP can split AAP or Congress, or just not let their MLAs listen to their party whips.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Rajesh_MR » 08 Dec 2013 18:07

Nope. (LG)Governor will call largest party to form government. They have to form majority on floor, in some ways UPA also is not in majority

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby rvishwak » 08 Dec 2013 18:09

time to switch to India vs SA match..
These news channels will now discuss there is no modi wave, AAP is the savior for mango man rather than focusing on tremendous result in Rajashtan(record 80% seats for BJP) & the fact that two CMs(MP & CG) beats the anti-incumbency factor

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby vivek.rao » 08 Dec 2013 18:10

I think Modi now has to start aggressive campaign on theme SP,BSP,JD(U),RJD == CON looters

Attack Inflation,Price Rise, No jobs

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby a_bharat » 08 Dec 2013 18:10

DL Final: BJP 32, AAP 28, CONG 8, Others 2

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby vivek.rao » 08 Dec 2013 18:14

RajeshA wrote:
kapilrdave wrote:Folks, Modi is a master of this game. He will "manage" AAP in delhi. BJP WILL form the govt. Expect split in AAP after GE. NM is clear in thoughts. You can impress people only by being in power. Protesting from opposition would be the last thing he would do IMO.


Do agree!

BJP Govt. in Delhi should run for the next 6 months giving good governance with its 34 MLAs. I don't think AAP would let it fall before the elections 2014, cuz then the Delhi voters would be extremely mad at AAP.

After 2014, BJP can split AAP or Congress, or just not let their MLAs listen to their party whips.


Actually CONGis might support AAP. There are already murmurs in SM and Rahul may come out with that policy

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby manju » 08 Dec 2013 18:14

A little late, nevertheless good last minute moves by BhaJpa in Dilli.. Otherwise they would have been routed.

I am assuming Vijay Goel did not go Paki after Dr. Harshavardhan was declared CM candidate. If this assumption is true all credit to Vijay Goel and the folks who convinced him to take a back seat.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby a_bharat » 08 Dec 2013 18:15

CG Final: BJP 49, Cong 39, BSP 1, Others 1

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Dipanker » 08 Dec 2013 18:16

jamwal wrote:Do they need to win exactly half or half+1 to form a government ?


half+1

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Dilbu » 08 Dec 2013 18:17

Anti jinx is back folks and will be in full force for 2014. It was fun. :D

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby vivek.rao » 08 Dec 2013 18:17

manju wrote:A little late, nevertheless good last minute moves by BhaJpa in Dilli.. Otherwise they would have been routed.

I am assuming Vijay Goel did not go Paki after Dr. Harshavardhan was declared CM candidate. If this assumption is true all credit to Vijay Goel and the folks who convinced him to take a back seat.


Have a different take on it.

The Modi future wave keeps these revolts under control. Unfortunately, that is the truth in India. Power makes us all weak. No Principles.

If BJP was in power, Yeddi would have not revolted. The revolts in CONGis may escalate now and I wonder the fate of Telengana bill

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Virupaksha » 08 Dec 2013 18:21

Dipanker wrote:
jamwal wrote:Do they need to win exactly half or half+1 to form a government ?


half+1

not technically, PV Narasimha rao's was a minority govt.

All it needs that is that confidence motions are won and no confidence motions are defeated among the voting members.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby kapilrdave » 08 Dec 2013 18:22

manju wrote:A little late, nevertheless good last minute moves by BhaJpa in Dilli.. Otherwise they would have been routed.

I am assuming Vijay Goel did not go Paki after Dr. Harshavardhan was declared CM candidate. If this assumption is true all credit to Vijay Goel and the folks who convinced him to take a back seat.

Actually this is perhaps good result in DL. If there was no modi bjp would have been deserted. Same in CG. By this result everyone in bjp top leadership and lower leadership will accept NM as messiha and will tow the line. Also if AAP got 10-12 seats they would have become king maker. Now they are neither king nor king maker. They have to join cong to form the govt. They can't do that before 2014. Cong's thorough routing is a bonus. Now delhites would feel guilty (i hope so) for voting hung govt. They would not want to make the same mistake in GE. All looks very good IMO.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Lilo » 08 Dec 2013 18:23

a_bharat wrote:DL Final: BJP 32, AAP 28, CONG 8, Others 2


Source ?

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby vishvak » 08 Dec 2013 18:24

Will this results not add to BJP tally in Rajya Sabha ie upper house of the Parliament.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Karan M » 08 Dec 2013 18:28

Dilbu wrote:Anti jinx is back folks and will be in full force for 2014. It was fun. :D


we need a special award for you. it aint proper anti jinx until dilbu is leading the charge. :mrgreen:

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Yagnasri » 08 Dec 2013 18:28

AP CM is already in revolt. T bill may voted against in AP assembly. Earlier efforts to manage MLAs will now fail as the mafia losing in 2014 now certain. Even Jagan and TRS may want friendship of Modi.

Haryana CM stopped display of mafia family.

It already started.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby harbans » 08 Dec 2013 18:28

Just wondering what would have happened if NM would not have been declared as PM candidate in Sept..and they had waited for results of these elections.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Karan M » 08 Dec 2013 18:30

^^ would have been complete confused mess. might have lost a few states as well.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Karan M » 08 Dec 2013 18:32

manju wrote:A little late, nevertheless good last minute moves by BhaJpa in Dilli.. Otherwise they would have been routed.

I am assuming Vijay Goel did not go Paki after Dr. Harshavardhan was declared CM candidate. If this assumption is true all credit to Vijay Goel and the folks who convinced him to take a back seat.


agreed. if this is the case, shri goel does deserve credit.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Karan M » 08 Dec 2013 18:33

i hope either BJP comes to power in DL, or AAP joins with INC to form a secular alternative (:P), will expose those AAP guys for what they are.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby RajeshA » 08 Dec 2013 18:34

a_bharat wrote:DL Final: BJP 32, AAP 28, CONG 8, Others 2


NIC site is working again!

BJP: 31 seats
SAD: 1 seat
IND: 1 seat (Rambir Shokeen)

They have 33 seats.

According to MSM that makes Arvind Kejriwal the hero of Delhi AND thus hero of India! Rajasthan, MP, Chhattisgarh all don't count! It is Arvind Kejriwal all the way! Modi ... Modi .. Modi Who?

Pity Delhi Cantt went to AAP.
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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby krishnan » 08 Dec 2013 18:39

Karan M wrote:i hope either BJP comes to power in DL, or AAP joins with INC to form a secular alternative (:P), will expose those AAP guys for what they are.


people will vote for AAP

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby RajeshA » 08 Dec 2013 18:43

In Chhattisgarh one winning candidate is the independent Dr. Viman Chopra from Mahasamund. He is a physician. Perhaps another MLA who can support the BJP govt there.

Another independent candidate fighting from same constituency had his name registered as "Human Banjare"! :D
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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Gus » 08 Dec 2013 18:43

woke up to a a pleasing news in elections :D and not-so pleasing news at kirket :((

with the results reflecting realities as predicted/seen at the ground by many people, will folks go slow on the many wild CTs on election manipulation???

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Gus » 08 Dec 2013 18:54

Virupaksha wrote:not technically, PV Narasimha rao's was a minority govt.

All it needs that is that confidence motions are won and no confidence motions are defeated among the voting members.


the motions come after govt is formed. once a govt is formed, it usually finds ways to win motions - the major exception being the 13 day vajpayee govt.

AFAIK, the governor (Lt.Gov in delhi's case) is precedence bound to call in the single largest party to form the govt by showing they have majority.

Najeeb Jung is the governor of delhi? can't find much info in his wiki to say for sure, but if he is a conparty stooge, he can invite bjp to form govt with a set time limit to show majority and meanwhile if aap and conparty announce post-poll alliance, then he can invite aap to form govt. it is possible.

unless a faction breaks away from aap and declares support to bjp. the faction cannot join bjp formally due to anti-defection laws.

OR

the governor can go entirely paki and invite aap first if aap and inc declare alliance today or tmrw. this would be against precedence.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Karan M » 08 Dec 2013 18:56

RajeshA wrote:
a_bharat wrote:DL Final: BJP 32, AAP 28, CONG 8, Others 2


NIC site is working again!

BJP: 31 seats
SAD: 1 seat
IND: 1 seat (Rambir Shokeen)

They have 33 seats.

According to MSM that makes Arvind Kejriwal the hero of Delhi AND thus hero of India! Rajasthan, MP, Chhattisgarh all don't count! It is Arvind Kejriwal all the way! Modi ... Modi .. Modi Who?

Pity Delhi Cantt went to AAP.



rajesha, exactly - the orgy msm is having at delhi results merely shows that these idiots havent changed their spots. their hero now is kejriwal, to stand against fascist indutva modi.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby vivek.rao » 08 Dec 2013 19:00

Come to think of it AAP can give a major boost to Leftist forces who want to push DIEnasty under the carpet to STOP Modi a great momentum.

Long term it may be good to destroy DIEnasty but in short term can affect Modi in urban areas. May be difficult to replicate nationally but can build momentum to affect in 10-20 urban areas.

Modi has to take this into affect. My idea "Citizen's Govt"

1. BJP announces a Primary system in 20-30 seats where BJP people elect who they want their MP candidate. Build a huge momentum in areas like WB,AP,Kerala,Orissa. Announce that if this succeeds, they will make this a constitutional system.

2. Announce similar reforms such as Direct elections to Water commissioner,Police Commissioner etc in Delhi who will report to CM. Even that will be Primary system.

Please post any such ideas. Lets consolidate and post it in Modi's web site

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Hari Seldon » 08 Dec 2013 19:00

IMO, BJP shouldn't form mainority gubmint which will forever be at rug-pulling mercy of the secularisti....

Better to let kerji form the gubmint and show how its done... :) Else, re-poll is fine too. A straight fight between BJP and pAAP this time.

My concern now is that we can prolly write off some 2-3 (at least) of Delhi's 7 LS seats as well... :((

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Lilo » 08 Dec 2013 19:01

CONGRESS HAS WON CHATTISGARH! ANY ATTEMPT BY RAMAN SINGH/CORPORATES TO STEAL PEOPLE'S VERDICT WILL BE MET BY A PEOPLE'S UPRISING!
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WE HAVE ALREADY TAKEN OVER BASTAR! BJP/CORPORATES ARE BEING CHASED AWAY AS I TWEET!
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RAMAN SINGH STANDS DEFEATED IN CHATTISGARH! STOLEN VERDICT NO PEOPLE'S VERDICT!
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Raman Singh government will not be allowed to function for one day. THIS IS NOT A PEOPLE'S VERDICT. CORPORATES HAVE STOLEN THE VERDICT!


I was given responsibility of 12 Bastar seats. Congress won 8. Last time it won 1. Congress also won 4/6 in Rajnandgaon!
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A worm is writhing in pain due to Chattishgarh result. :lol:

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Nitesh » 08 Dec 2013 19:02

I think if congress gives a unconditional support to AAP, they will be invited to form the government, and AAP will say we haven't asked for their support win win for both, BJP remains out of power this way

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby IndraD » 08 Dec 2013 19:04

whole focus of discussion on several channels is kejriwal jadu, even when BJP is largest party even in Delhi. congress is hoping to make an alliance wth AAP. What if there is re election in Delhi? Will AAP emerge single largest party?

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby anmol » 08 Dec 2013 19:06

vivek.rao wrote:Come to think of it AAP can give a major boost to Leftist forces who want to push DIEnasty under the carpet to STOP Modi a great momentum.

Long term it may be good to destroy DIEnasty but in short term can affect Modi in urban areas. May be difficult to replicate nationally but can build momentum to affect in 10-20 urban areas.

Modi has to take this into affect. My idea "Citizen's Govt"

1. BJP announces a Primary system in 20-30 seats where BJP people elect who they want their MP candidate. Build a huge momentum in areas like WB,AP,Kerala,Orissa. Announce that if this succeeds, they will make this a constitutional system.

2. Announce similar reforms such as Direct elections to Water commissioner,Police Commissioner etc in Delhi who will report to CM. Even that will be Primary system.

Please post any such ideas. Lets consolidate and post it in Modi's web site



+100000000000

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby vishvak » 08 Dec 2013 19:07

Nitesh wrote:I think if congress gives a unconditional support to AAP, they will be invited to form the government, and AAP will say we haven't asked for their support win win for both, BJP remains out of power this way

So AAP changed discourse from anti incumbency to usual pseudo secularism.

How important is dilli again wrt nationalist perspective and therefore such change in discourse and changing goalposts by pseudo seculars.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Anantha » 08 Dec 2013 19:10

Khujli can be a useful idiot. He has pulled lot of the Muslim votes all over Delhi. It is good to have congress muslim votes taken by Khujli's party for the LS 2014 polls

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby JohnTitor » 08 Dec 2013 19:10

pankajs wrote:Congress lost all seats Rahul visited, BJP won in 16 of 20 places where Modi went
Interesting .. Should get wide publicity on teetar

No, the opposite! Better they be ignorant lest they learn


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