Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

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Postby Arjun » 05 Jan 2014 13:41

AAP = Aam Airhead Party

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Postby pankajs » 05 Jan 2014 13:53

Akhilesh govt to withdraw cases against Muzaffarnagar riot-tainted BSP, Congress leaders
Unmoved by criticism, the UP government has finally moved to withdraw cases of hate mongering, violating prohibitory orders and inciting violence filed against Muslim leaders, belonging to BSP and Congress. Inflammatory speeches made by these leaders allegedly led to large-scale riots in Muzaffarnagar and adjoining Shamli districts in the aftermath of the Kawal eve-teasing incident in Muzaffarnagar.

As per official sources, the law department of state government has written to the district magistrates of both Muzaffarnagar and Shamli if the cases against the leaders can be withdrawn in public interest. The district authorities are now in the process of sending a detailed report on the involvement of these leaders in inciting violence post-Juma prayers at Khala Par area of Muzaffarnagar on August 31. What is more shocking, however, is that the government has shamelessly gone ahead and defended its decision.

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Most prominent of all the politicians against whom cases for inciting riots were filed included the sitting BSP MP from Muzaffarnagar Qadir Rana, his brother and BSP MLA Noor Saleem Rana, another BSP MLA Jameel Ahmad, former Congress minister and MLA Saeed-uz-Zaman and his son Salman Saeed. Community leaders Asad Zama, Naushad Qureshi and advocate Sultan Mashir are among others. Arrest warrants had also been issued against them by a local court but the police failed to arrest them.

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What has infuriated the BJP leadership even more is that while cases against BSP and Congress leaders are being sought to be withdrawn, BJP MLAs Sangeet Som and Suresh Rana continue to face cases for inciting violence even as the State Advisory Committee has exonerated them in the NSA case slapped against them. The Special Investigation Cell (SIC), formed post riots, although continues to investigate cases, no charge-sheet in any such case has been filed so far.

There are some big questions that need to be answered. Is the UP government playing minority politics by dropping cases against Muslim MLAs? Is the government trying to shift focus from its apathy towards riot victims? Has justice been denied to riot victims by the Akhilesh Yadav government?

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby krishnan » 05 Jan 2014 14:01

Kiran bedi says she is not going to join BJP

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby IndraD » 05 Jan 2014 14:10

:rotfl: Anna is showering praises on AK, yesterday he said declining a big house by AK is an example of saadgi & tyag. Others should learn . All MLAs from AAP are great and doing a lot of tyag

1. I believe Anna was persuaded to broker a less potent lokpal bill to counter AK popularity by congress
2. Anna seems to be fickle minded, one day he is for AK next day he is against him.
3. With lokpal bill passed Anna doesn't have any more hathiyar to be popular which he has got used to, hence he may join AK

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Postby Pranav » 05 Jan 2014 14:34

SriKumar wrote:AAP has put up its donations list online. Totals (Rs 5 crore so far) are broken up by country, and a daily total is published. Even contributors' names are published. Must be a first. http://www.aamaadmiparty.org/donation-list


Media coverage will be paid for by sponsors and won't appear in party accounts. Takes a lot of money to keep loss-making outlets like NDTV afloat.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby IndraD » 05 Jan 2014 15:09

Aam aadmi ko itne paiso ki kya zaroorat hai??

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby niran » 05 Jan 2014 15:20

Sharad pawar has announced he will not contest LS
but will contest RS in march, this raises one pertinent
question is pawar pawarful no more, if not then why is he
afraid even of his backyard? If wat methinks is correct then
MH should be easy money for bhajapa,yes?

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Sagar G » 05 Jan 2014 15:35

Nope Maha isn't easy money for BJP, I don't see anything to believe that NCP-Cong virus has become weak in Maha. He is going behind the scenes only and will carry out his agenda from back their.

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Postby Atri » 05 Jan 2014 15:44

niran wrote:Sharad pawar has announced he will not contest LS
but will contest RS in march, this raises one pertinent
question is pawar pawarful no more, if not then why is he
afraid even of his backyard? If wat methinks is correct then
MH should be easy money for bhajapa,yes?


nephew and daughter has taken over. health of pawar is not very good these days. there is some friction between daughter and nephew and in my estimate will result in split of NCP post Pawar's demise. may be not, but chances are there. In either case, NCP cadre is high on morale in western MH and marathwada.

as far as I can see MH, for BJP no more than 15-17 seats. ShivSena is in tatters. Mumbai is an open game. In case AAP comes in there will be 4 way contest in urban MH which is not good for NDA. The good news is Shelar and Devendra have invigorated BJP and RSS cadres in MH. The mobilization for people for modi's bandra rally was very good job. So, I will not write off BJP. Their chances are decent, albeit very difficult uphill battle. But organizational health of BJP is rapidly getting better. So, I am optimistic. If they manage to sweep vidarbha, parts of northern MH and urban MH (the MMR-Pune-Aurangabad-Nashik quadrilateral), it will be better. thing is Sena is going to loose in mumbai. Do they show the realization and back off allowing BJP to contest more seats than last seat-sharing, is a million rupee question.

Other factor is MNS and their ability sell themselves. They will support him who pays highest chauth money.. and Cong-NCP have VERY deep pockets.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby panduranghari » 05 Jan 2014 16:16

RT will go with NCP without congress. It gives him an opportunity to claim the weaker faction when NCP splits.

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Postby JohnTitor » 05 Jan 2014 17:00

Epic video of pAAPi getting slapped


[youtube]Sk2D8CRYqJA&t=0m21s[/youtube]


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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Singha » 05 Jan 2014 19:19

to shift central paramils around for security.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Muppalla » 05 Jan 2014 19:34

Atri wrote:
niran wrote:Sharad pawar has announced he will not contest LS
but will contest RS in march, this raises one pertinent
question is pawar pawarful no more, if not then why is he
afraid even of his backyard? If wat methinks is correct then
MH should be easy money for bhajapa,yes?


nephew and daughter has taken over. health of pawar is not very good these days. there is some friction between daughter and nephew and in my estimate will result in split of NCP post Pawar's demise. may be not, but chances are there. In either case, NCP cadre is high on morale in western MH and marathwada.

as far as I can see MH, for BJP no more than 15-17 seats. ShivSena is in tatters. Mumbai is an open game. In case AAP comes in there will be 4 way contest in urban MH which is not good for NDA. The good news is Shelar and Devendra have invigorated BJP and RSS cadres in MH. The mobilization for people for modi's bandra rally was very good job. So, I will not write off BJP. Their chances are decent, albeit very difficult uphill battle. But organizational health of BJP is rapidly getting better. So, I am optimistic. If they manage to sweep vidarbha, parts of northern MH and urban MH (the MMR-Pune-Aurangabad-Nashik quadrilateral), it will be better. thing is Sena is going to loose in mumbai. Do they show the realization and back off allowing BJP to contest more seats than last seat-sharing, is a million rupee question.

Other factor is MNS and their ability sell themselves. They will support him who pays highest chauth money.. and Cong-NCP have VERY deep pockets.


How about the chances of BJP+SS Vs NCP+MNS Vs INC. Outside the catalyst role of NCP where is INC? If NCP breaks up to make Pawar in competition with Jaya as third front leader why he needs INC in Maha? What is real strength of INC on its own and this is not much analyzed.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby ashashi » 05 Jan 2014 19:58

Singha wrote:to shift central paramils around for security.


I can understand sensitive areas like naxal infested areas in middle-India.

Is the nations's security situation so bad now that the country has to be divided into 5 or 6 security zones for conduction the elections?

Why a big time gap between last phase of elections and counting of elections?

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby member_28352 » 05 Jan 2014 20:05

Strength of INC everywhere is the strength of its local satraps. Vilasrao was the last strong INC satrap in Maharashtra. So INC is pretty weak in MH, which AAP seeks to fill.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Atri » 05 Jan 2014 20:21

Muppalla wrote:How about the chances of BJP+SS Vs NCP+MNS Vs INC. Outside the catalyst role of NCP where is INC? If NCP breaks up to make Pawar in competition with Jaya as third front leader why he needs INC in Maha? What is real strength of INC on its own and this is not much analyzed.


INC had many legs of strength. Now the most potent (and perhaps the only) leg left with them is tonnes of files on NCP leaders. :) Death of Vilasrao was the second last leg on which INC was standing. In rural MH, NCP might fill in for INC. In urban, there will be fourway contest.

NCP-MNS is a very potent and killer combination. But support base of MNS is same as that of Sena and by design they cannot be sekoolar beyond a point, although RT's official stance has been non-committal on Hindutva. RT is auctioning himself to fill his warchest for assembly elections in september this year. MNS can go either with BJP or NCP. If MNS eventually goes with BJP, then in long run NCP will ally with MIM in certain regions of MH and INC will stay. if MNS allies with NCP, then INC will be over. It may be replaced by AAP in urban MH (provided complete complacence of Shivsena and BJP).

In this entire process, the party which will lose most is Shivsena. Who will replace sena in MMR region remains to be seen. Of course, if AAP could force MNS and SS to come together, it will be wonderful.. :P

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby member_20317 » 05 Jan 2014 20:34

But what if the donation of election funds by NCP to MNS is a signal to faithfools that they should change ships and what if MNS gets reduced to being an AAP of NCP?

Just wondering.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby JohnTitor » 05 Jan 2014 21:13

https://twitter.com/pkaushal_99/status/ ... to/1/large

that pic is constantly on.. something to do with media/INC/AAP..

could anyone explain? None of the people in there mean anything to me.. so i am not able to get the context..

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby jamwal » 05 Jan 2014 21:22

Ashutosh, resident secular and impartial journo (green sweater) from IBN hanging out with AAP members.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Sagar G » 05 Jan 2014 21:27

Shonu wrote:https://twitter.com/pkaushal_99/status/419648330474344448/photo/1/large

that pic is constantly on.. something to do with media/INC/AAP..

could anyone explain? None of the people in there mean anything to me.. so i am not able to get the context..


The person in green jacket is Ashutosh, MD of IBN-7 and the person in blue shirt in the left is Kumar Biswas from PAAP.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby IndraD » 05 Jan 2014 21:59

rakhi birla car attacked in magolpuri, big fuss being created on tv

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby bhargava » 05 Jan 2014 22:58

interesting..expose of pAAP

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby kmkraoind » 05 Jan 2014 23:10

Ford funded a party, which has similar agenda that of ISI and they both want India to lay in ruins, so I am renaming AAP as American Awami Party.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Shanmukh » 05 Jan 2014 23:22

kmkraoind wrote:Ford funded a party, which has similar agenda that of ISI and they both want India to lay in ruins, so I am renaming AAP as American Awami Party.


What is surprising me is just how many of these AAP critters support Prashant Bhushan. They are all crawling out of the woodwork claiming that Kashmir is a headache for India and should be given up. I recommend that anytime they get headache, the should volunteer to get their heads cut off.


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Postby Comer » 06 Jan 2014 00:35

IndraD wrote:rakhi birla car attacked in magolpuri, big fuss being created on tv


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 448588.cms

Interestingly, a child in the locality claimed it was cricket ball that ended up hitting the car.

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Postby IndraD » 06 Jan 2014 02:49

Prashant Bhushan in an extensive interview to aaj tak stated that a plebiscite should be held in kashmir regarding 1. army removal 2. how to win hearts using constitutional method and not army and 3. rehabilitation of displaced kashmiri muslims by army.
may be strategic affairs thread about kashmir will be most ideal to discuss this.

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Postby vivek.rao » 06 Jan 2014 03:35

Yogendra Yadav just told ET that AAP will fight for HIGHER RESERVATIONS QUOTAS for lower castes and backwards communities.

Source:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 450260.cms


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Postby vivek.rao » 06 Jan 2014 03:51

http://m.economictimes.com/news/politic ... 449942.cms

Kujli now says he will change his mind depending on public demand

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby SwamyG » 06 Jan 2014 04:09

Here is some old material on AAP.


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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Muppalla » 06 Jan 2014 05:20

vivek.rao wrote:Yogendra Yadav just told ET that AAP will fight for HIGHER RESERVATIONS QUOTAS for lower castes and backwards communities.

Source:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 450260.cms


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That's how they want to get into non-urban India. Kudos to congress to create a congress-B team so effectively.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Shanmukh » 06 Jan 2014 06:27

Folks - is it just me, or are others also noticing that AAP members, who used to dominate the airwaves, are beginning to take a bit of a hit. Majority of the articles about AAP have huge number of negative comments.
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Postby muraliravi » 06 Jan 2014 06:32

Muppalla wrote:
vivek.rao wrote:Yogendra Yadav just told ET that AAP will fight for HIGHER RESERVATIONS QUOTAS for lower castes and backwards communities.

Source:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 450260.cms


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That's how they want to get into non-urban India. Kudos to congress to create a congress-B team so effectively.


Muppalla ji,

Its not so easy, they cant have everything. To get non-urban india with caste based reservation agenda, just lip service and sitting in delhi will not help them even .001%. They need to take up the agenda in a big way and pass some legislation in delhi where they have a govt to prove that they are serious. But wait, if they do that, oh boy their support base, middle class educated urban youth (except for the core congress voter who is parading as if he never voted congress and AAP is the first political party he/she is rooting for) will walk away in a sec. This kind of plank in which they have started will only get them this far with media bytes, agitations etc.. They have no vision or policy. So if they dream of expanding with such finicky ideas, they will be doomed onlee. IMHO they ONLY 2 ways AAP can expand nationally

1. Govern Delhi well, and prove that they are a role model for governance ( I think we can pretty much rule this out ).

2. Congress really transfers all its assets including ground workers and vote base to AAP and does a self destruction of the congress party so that they can at least be a serious opposition to Namo govt with a face like AK.

The 2nd option looks the most feasible, but will not happen overnight. The AAP-Cong alliance is the 1st phase for that.

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Postby muraliravi » 06 Jan 2014 06:37

nageshks wrote:Folks - is it just me, or or are others also noticing that AAP members, who used to dominate the airwaves, are beginning to take a bit of a hit. Majority of the articles about AAP have negative comments.


Kudos Nagesh ji for posting this. I am seeing the same. Their aggressiveness is getting lesser. If you look at it in detail. A good chunk of AAP supporters were pure erstwhile congress chamchas and they are still the same, they try to dominate the AAP discourse and abuse BJP with their new mask. As for the rest, the so called youth who were Apolitical before the emergence of AAP and who supported AAP are quite disappointed with them taking support from Cong and all the ruckus that is going on in Delhi without an element of governance. The 10% of BJP folks who went to AK camp, it was just a matter of time after they saw how opportunistic he is and prashant bhushan type people only their drive back to the Namo camp easier.

But you will still see some growth in AK support and a parallel decline in congress chamcha giri, for it is just a transfer of support from one camp to another.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Muppalla » 06 Jan 2014 06:53

muraliravi,

I am not saying all these will be successful. The desperation leads to anything for now as they just cannot survive a BJP government and worse a Modi government. Let us watch and see how these despos will chalk the destruction.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Shanmukh » 06 Jan 2014 07:00

muraliravi wrote:But you will still see some growth in AK support and a parallel decline in congress chamcha giri, for it is just a transfer of support from one camp to another.


This is exactly what I am afraid of. The old Congress returning under a new brand name. And worse, it is a Congress purged of all its nationalistic elements - for all its sins, the old Congress did have its share of nationalists. This new Congress is just hype, opportunism, pandering to communities, and worst of all, more radically anti-nationalist with works with social engineering, with elements of American counter culture infused in. It will be terrible if we get rid of the old dinosaur, only for a new, worse leftist alternative to emerge.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Shanmukh » 06 Jan 2014 07:14

Folks - given all these pro-Pak statements by Prashant Bhushan, has anyone tried to get Surender Singh, the army commando wounded in 26/11 and asked him if he agrees with the statements? It would be interesting to see an Indian army commando (former) defend the indefensible.

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