Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Shanmukh » 08 Jan 2014 08:45

Folks - is it just me or is anyone else seeing that AAP is taking a lot of heat over the Yogendra Yadav's reservation statements? If the BJP can latch on to this, it could just be the antidote to the Yuppie crowd's infatuation with AAP.

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Postby member_28352 » 08 Jan 2014 08:57

For obvious reasons BJP as a party cannot take a stand on YY's statement on reservations. Even YY knows this. YY now wishes to attract votes to his outfit in rural areas. Hence the talk on reservations. Maybe some of it may catch on. After all a lot of OBC's are with the BJP precisely because Modi himself is an OBC. However what pro Modi/pro BJP supporters can do is highlight YY's message in SM and let it spread like wildfire. This will surely take away some of the jeans tshirt AAP votes. At the very least these guys will sit at home during voting time if not vote for Modi. AAPturds who otherwise make yogic contortions to justify their party's positions on various issues react the most strongly to mention of reservations. In fact they are quite blunt that reservations are bad.
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Postby vivek.rao » 08 Jan 2014 09:01

^^ We are spreading it out. Every one, Please do the needful.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby krishnan » 08 Jan 2014 09:02

http://tinyurl.com/la9ajya

Ford Foundation India too denied allegations that it was propping the anti-graft movement. Its representative, Steven Solnick, said the Foundation’s last instalment to Kabir was in 2010. “Our first grant to the NGO was of $1,72,000 in 2005 ; the second was in 2008 of $1,97,000,” he told Business Standard.


More than 10000000 INR in 8 years and 35 INR/USD, i think it was more than that in 2005, i am taking a low figure , no figure given for after 2008, this needs to be spread far and wide

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby krishnan » 08 Jan 2014 09:09

from above link “Both were exclusively for work on Right to Information Act and on training people how to use it,” , so much money for work on RTI ??

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby subhamoy.das » 08 Jan 2014 09:09

BJP did not prop up PAAP so why should they waste energy in ploting its fall. con-gress promoted it and it will and has become its head ache. PAAP will fall under its own weight and will also bring its promoter down like bhindranwale and others in the past. This is history reapeating itself. So sit tight and let BJP focus on anti-congress wave while paap and con-gress fight it out! BJP just needs to humbly remind the votes o delhi of what they voted for and what they got!

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby vivek.rao » 08 Jan 2014 09:10

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1140108/j ... 764111.jsp
AAP splits in Chennai before it takes off :rotfl:


Chennai, Jan. 7: Chennai has not even had a chance to host the triumphant Arvind Kejriwal but his party colleagues have started quarrelling and falling out with each other.

The Tamil Nadu unit of the Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) split today with two rival groups claiming to be the “real” party at separate news meets in which each dubbed the other “unauthorised”.

The first meet was held by AAP state treasurer Anand Ganesh at a newly opened party office on Taylor’s Road, a posh residential area in central Chennai. He claimed Kejriwal would attend a state-level conference in Chennai at January-end.

Ganesh then went on to “disclose” that six committee members had been “expelled” from the AAP’s Chennai unit for anti-party activities.

Within an hour, the rival group comprising AAP’s state secretary Balakrishnan, convener K.P. Narayanan and four other office-bearers denied they had been expelled.

Addressing reporters at another office in Poonamallee High Road, they claimed this was the “real office” of the AAP and that Ganesh had no power to expel anyone.

“We had asked Ganesh to furnish accounts of the state unit. But he walked away with all the records and the computer and started a new office in Taylor’s Road. He has no power to expel anyone,” claimed Balakrishnan.

The split has left a bad taste in the mouth of AAP volunteers who want the central leadership to name a credible set of leaders. But the break-up is in keeping with the political trend in Tamil Nadu where splits and counter splits are quite normal.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby krishnan » 08 Jan 2014 09:42

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Postby Comer » 08 Jan 2014 09:53

Going by the hospital take over of AAP(something like factory takeovers by Mao and his group), the yuppies, who are at best useful idiots, will be muscled out by the Yogendra Yadav inspired social engineers. They wouldn't know what hit them and so will parts of India who has chosen to go with them.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby pankajs » 08 Jan 2014 10:10

Volunteers or vigilantes? The danger of AAP’s anarchic politics
"This is like a return to the Emergency days."

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby pankajs » 08 Jan 2014 10:11

Kejriwal fights for auto drivers, but what about ‘Aam’ commuters?
The Delhi Chief Minister Arvind Kejriwal is all set to take up the fight of auto rickshaw drivers and protect them from corruption at the hands of Delhi police.

According to a Hindustan Times report today, the Kejriwal government wants to withdraw the Delhi Police's power to fine autorickshaw drives who refuse to carry passengers.

The AAP government's move may impress the auto rickshaw drivers, but it is likely to give Delhi commuters, who are already at the mercy of non meter abiding auto rickshaw drivers, a hard time.

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So, why the support for auto rickshaw drivers?

The Aam Aadmi Party had received massive support from auto drivers, not only in terms of votes but also through aggressive campaigning by many of them. Kejriwal has made several promises which the unions are now pressing for.

But, shouldn't the chief minister spare a thought for the 'Aam aadmi' commuters too?
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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Arjun » 08 Jan 2014 10:11

This Twitter appointment seems seriously amiss....Hope the BJP takes this up.

Even this Raheel guy's boss at Twitter India seems to be a full-fledged Dynasty jerk: Things Get Political For Twitter In India

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby krishnan » 08 Jan 2014 10:14

more imp question is , is twitter intl in this ???

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby disha » 08 Jan 2014 10:40

Twitter does not even have any India office. This guys are just marketing/sales & publicity heads. They will try to be borderline controversial since that is going to be part of their marketing.

One can research them more at https://about.twitter.com/company

Yes the Raheel guy is a jerk and ideally should be fired. Nothing wrong in asking Twitter (now since it is a public company) to shunt out such A*hol3s.

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Postby member_28352 » 08 Jan 2014 10:53

Twitter is a powerful SM and appointing a separatist anti Indian and anti Hindu person as its head of news is a signal of its intention to be anti-dharmic force in this election.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Arjun » 08 Jan 2014 10:54

disha wrote:Twitter does not even have any India office. This guys are just marketing/sales & publicity heads. They will try to be borderline controversial since that is going to be part of their marketing.

One can research them more at https://about.twitter.com/company

Yes the Raheel guy is a jerk and ideally should be fired. Nothing wrong in asking Twitter (now since it is a public company) to shunt out such A*hol3s.

They do have a country head responsible for India, Rishi Jaitly. Possible he may be based out of Singapore...

The country head would be responsible for all aspects of India business - including the primary one of revenue from India-based advertisers.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Arunkumar » 08 Jan 2014 10:56

Wont be surprisd if CON might have paid teetar few hundred kiror to appoint such a guy, to keep away internet hindoo away or make some quit in disgust.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Arjun » 08 Jan 2014 11:03

Social Media, including Google and Twitter - are supposed to be neutral technology platforms, which don't lean towards any particular political view. A senior appointment which includes "Government Relations" in its mandate - of a guy known to have highly politically slanted views - is outrageous !! Twitter's license in India needs to be reviewed...

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Hari Seldon » 08 Jan 2014 11:09

Arjun wrote:The point is Social Media, including Google and Twitter - are supposed to be neutral platforms - which don't lean towards any particular political view. A senior appointment which includes "Government Relations" in its mandate - when the guy has been known to have highly politically slanted views - is outrageous !! Twitter's license in India needs to be reviewed...


And trust me, it will be after NM takes office.

Unlike some thin-skins, NM will not flinch from doing what has to be done in national interest (and that surely includes sidelining known anti-nationals and phoren agents from positions of public influence in strategic spheres such as media, banking, defence.... no?).

If the ford types are looking to browbeat NM with their laughably high highbrows, good luck to them, I say. This ain't a quaint gentleman in the ABV mold they're dealing with here.... onlee.

Oh, and that quake you hear is from the boots of the radiafied media dalals and assorted neta-babu power brokers with mountains of skeletons to hide.... bring out the beer n popcorn I say...

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby jamwal » 08 Jan 2014 11:17

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new ... 70465.aspx
Autorickshaws were a vital part of the Aam Aadmi Party’s Delhi campaign, with posters bearing party slogans ferrying passengers across the city.

According to sources, Delhi chief minister Arvind Kejriwal wants to withdraw the Delhi Police’s power to fine auto drivers for refusing to take passengers, go by meter and violating permit laws, including wearing uniform and badge, and give it back to the transport department.

The CM has held several meetings with senior transport department officials to work out the modalities for the change. The final nod would have to come from Lieutenant Governor Najeeb Jung, who would then decide if the issue should be referred to the Centre, said officials.

Confirming the move, Kejriwal said: “All auto drivers of the city had joined hands with us in our fight against corruption, and we are committed to resolving their issues.” “The transport minister is working out details of what comes under the purview of the transport department and what should essentially remain with the police”.

However, Kejriwal’s move has been resisted by the transport department, which claims it does not have the manpower to take over the job.

Following a heated argument over the issue, transport commissioner Arvind Ray was replaced by Gyanesh Bharti on Monday.

Officials in transport department are of the view that the move could once again inconvenience commuters who often rely on the police when auto drivers overcharge or refuse to go to certain locations


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It is actions like these that give away the Anarchist agenda of Arvind Subsidy Kejriwal. Look at the merit of this decision with an extremely unfortunate live example that we suffered last year. In the Nirbhaya episode, the bus that in which the ghastly act was committed, was plying on Delhi roads without a license. The licensing and monitoring power of such vehicles was not under Delhi Police but under the Transport Authority. The Transport Secretary was Shri Rajendra Kumar who actually is Arvind Subsidy Kejriwal's Chief secretary now.
Delhi police had severly complained against its inability to monitor buses due to the resistance of Shri Rajendra Kumar. That is why Rajendra Kumar was then transferred to Information Technology. Now by once again taking away the monitoring from Delhi Police which actually is very efficient compared to the Transport Department, Arvind Subsidy Kejriwal is actually now exposing the people and specially the women of Delhi to several Nirbaya possibilities. Arvind Subsidy Kejriwalis against any kind of government or organized control. He knows nothing about governance and takes decisions which are way beyond inept and dangerous. He together with Prashant "Give Kashmir to Pakistan" Bhushan were shamelessly using the Nirbhaya incident to gather support for AAP and now when the time came to strenghten the laws of public transport for women's safety in Delhi, he is now shamelessly pandering to the votes of the Autowallahs.
When making this disgusting populist decision, Arvind Subsidy Kejriwal forgot that in any city in the world, the public amenities wherein the safety and convenience of citizens has to be ensured, there are regulatory mechanisms for the operations of these services. Go to any city in the world.I have been to over 100 and except the western african countries,all nations have laws to govern and regulate public transport in the interest of the citizens and the visitors. Instead of building up on the current regulatory mechanism,Arvind Subsidy Kejriwal is taking these decisions which smack of Zero Vision, No governance, Sheer populism and anarchy. Whateversocialand regulatory mechanisms we painstakingly built over these years, this guy single handedly will destroy it with the speed of light. All for his blind hunger of populism and votes. I hope that we realize the hollowness of the ideology that Arvind Subsidy Kejriwal proposes and may better sense prevail then allowing any possibility of allowing these inepts to have any say in the politics of our country moving forward.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Comer » 08 Jan 2014 11:28

^^I am sure the middle class who voted in droves for this revolutionary will have to just grin and bear it.

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Postby member_28352 » 08 Jan 2014 11:29

^^^BJP should organize dharnas of affliated mahila morchas under the aegis of different nebulous "women's rights" NGO with plausible deniability against this decision. Do it near its offices, at the homes of its MLAs and ministers. Lots of naarabaazi and nothing else. It should appear that these are actually "aam admi" ladies protesting AAP's tughlaqsque farmans. I say arm all of these women with jhaadus also to show the power of Indian women over men. :mrgreen: No better psycops than this.

Also the western press is going gaga over the tughlaqsque decision of AK47 to house the homeless in abandoned buses. God forbidding if any rapes or molestations happen in these confined spaces then the "innovative" party will actually be beaten up by jhaadus everyday by women.
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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby IndraD » 08 Jan 2014 11:32

AAP office in Kaushambi attacked by Hindu Raksha Committee. Get ready for an alleged BJP link etc etc.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby apoorv » 08 Jan 2014 11:34

^^^ it is Mangalore pub attack all over again.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby member_28352 » 08 Jan 2014 11:35

^^^False flag operations are part of the game. Will have to deal with it.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Arjun » 08 Jan 2014 11:45

ShankarCag wrote:^^^False flag operations are part of the game. Will have to deal with it.

Will have to deal better with false flag operations. BJP has come out the loser in all previous attempts.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby member_20317 » 08 Jan 2014 12:11

The circumstantial evidence support no theory. It could be a false flag or it could even be true flag pre-meditated or a true flag not thought through attack.

By simply calling it false flag the core purpose, that of making an effective stand, does not get served. Has AAP people acted in a manner that suggests falsehood. Yes. Have the attackers any such history. We do not yet know. So the circumstantial evidence itself is not complete. Being politics, there may never be a direct evidence. Hence the claim will stand before the public because all they saw was AAP office getting attacked and BJP being in opposition.

Protests are the way to go. Not attacks.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Nitesh » 08 Jan 2014 12:23

Is this is like another of Rakhi birla episode to get more security. Last time it got busted in no time, so now in more sophisticated way

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby member_28352 » 08 Jan 2014 13:06

I think I had posted earlier that the americans are now after our judiciary. They have fired the opening shot and are testing the waters by getting the AAP law minister, Somnath Bharti to subvert all existing procedure and call a meeting of judges. We need to be firm in this and come down hard, real hard to make it amply clear that this will not be tolerated. Waffling at the issue by treating it as just another call for a meeting will lead to a DK type incident in the future when the GOI didn't do anything in the Krittika Biswas, APJ Abdul Kalam and Hardeep Puri incidents.

If this issue is not dealt with firmly now expect US courts to threaten to issue RCNs against Indian judges on charges of abetting IP theft against complaints brought by US pharma companies who have lost patent cases in India.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby hanumadu » 08 Jan 2014 13:41

The comments by Prashanth Bhushan on Kashmir are deliberate so that they could follow up with a staged attack on themselves and blame BJP for it. Kumar Vishwas is already on TV, blaming such organisations are part of the BJP.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby member_28352 » 08 Jan 2014 13:52

Bahut aacche.... I type "AAP o" in my google search bar and google very helpfully serves up "AAP office kaushambi attacked" as completion. This must be a record even for Google also ;-)

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby johneeG » 08 Jan 2014 13:57

Well, regardless of who is behind the attack(which should be found out by the dilli sarkaar or kendra sarkaar, instead of blaming without basis), the real issue is AAP's members supporting secession of Bhaarath. That is the big issue. Whether some idiot attacked another idiot or not is inconsequential. At the most, thats just law and order issue. But, secession is a much bigger issue and can even involve potential treason.

ShankerCag saar,
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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Deans » 08 Jan 2014 13:58

nageshks wrote:
ramana wrote:And how are Twitter board taking this?

Can they be so dumb as to appoint some one to head their India ops who is so anti an Indian political party?


Ramana-ji,
How about initiating a Quit Twitter movement if this man is made head of Twitter India?


Good idea, The fact that Twitter appointed this joker must be widely publicised.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Atri » 08 Jan 2014 14:02

BJP should learn thing or two from shivsena. SS never shied away from direct or perceived hooliganism. BJP and Advani went on the blame SS for demolition of Babri when they started feeling the heat. BT accepted claimed the responsibility. This made him immensely popular in MH and BJP has decreased the ideological appeal and pull since then.

Whatever Bhushan fellow said, deserves to be smacked hard. So BJP who ever has done it, you will be blamed for it. Up the tempo and use this to your benefit. Do not be a whimpering babu crying foul.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby johneeG » 08 Jan 2014 14:14

Atri wrote:BJP should learn thing or two from shivsena. SS never shied away from direct or perceived hooliganism. BJP and Advani went on the blame SS for demolition of Babri when they started feeling the heat. BT accepted claimed the responsibility. This made him immensely popular in MH and BJP has decreased the ideological appeal and pull since then.

Whatever Bhushan fellow said, deserves to be smacked hard. So BJP who ever has done it, you will be blamed for it. Up the tempo and use this to your benefit. Do not be a whimpering babu crying foul.


Actually, I think BJP should not fall into whole game of 'who beat him... who beat him'. The focus must be on AAP's members supporting secession. Thats the main issue here. If some guys gets beaten up, so what?!!! Is that a big new issue here? It may be an issue for radiamedia, but why should BJP play ball? BJP should keep talking about AAP's members supporting secession and breaking of the country. AAP's line being the same as the line of bakis. Harshvardhan needs to up the ante...

This is not even about AAP. No political party can be allowed to get away with(that too in national capital) by taking anti-national stance that directly threatens the territorial integrity of the nation.


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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby jamwal » 08 Jan 2014 14:46

Beating up Prashant or anyone like him shouldn't be an option in democracy. Not that I will not like his sorry face dunked in a gutter, but still....

BJP should maintain distance from any such incidents.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby member_28352 » 08 Jan 2014 14:53

BJP should simply say that we do not condone such type of incidents and these people are not affiliated with us. However the attack highlights the point that one of AAP's prominent members has a view that is diametrically different from India's stated national security position on the matter and therefore people are angry. It should also say that AAP and AK47 haven't done enough to distance themselves from this matter and if AK47 and AAP are serious about it then they should expel PB from the party. If AAP doesn't expel PB then doubts will always remain about AAP's intentions on Kashmir if it comes to power.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Vikas » 08 Jan 2014 15:29

Kudos to anyone who beats up these Maoist/secessionist kind of folks. Why hide behind burkha and try to engage such folks in argument when it is proven that such people are not shy of picking up gun and shooting you in the face. I am not sure I am a big fan of Gandhian/Nehruvian Tactics.
We have become too much of should do this/should do that/argue well on TV/good bhashan blah blah.
Maharana Pratap didn't engage in argument about Dharma and its fineness when he wanted to throw out the bigot Mughal King Akbar out of his homeland.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby JohnTitor » 08 Jan 2014 17:01

teetar saying mallika joining AAP reduces its credibility:

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/o ... 553675.ece

Any reason why? I know she was anti-NM but shes the daughter of vikram sarabhai.. I would have thought that enhances the image .. no?


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