Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

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Postby vivek.rao » 17 Jan 2014 06:43

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... igilantes/

Two Delhi ministers turn vigilantes
Less than 24 hours after he led a midnight raid and tried to bully police into arresting some “Nigerians or Ugandans” who he alleged were members of “a prostitution-and-drug ring”, Delhi Law Minister Somnath Bharti returned to the very spot on Thursday and asked residents to draw up a list of houses where “such people” live and said he would personally check each one.
The police, he said, would also be told to do the same. Elsewhere in the capital, his colleague and Women and Child Welfare Minister Rakhi Birla tried to force the police to arrest suspects involved in setting a woman ablaze last week.
Birla claimed the police refused to break down the locked door of a suspect’s house.
On Wednesday, hours after AAP leader and Delhi minister Manish Sisodia warned of the possibility of “political goondaism”, Bharti, accompanied by television crews and AAP volunteers, landed in Khirki Extension — a part of his Malviya Nagar constituency in south Delhi — saying he had received “information” on a prostitution-and-drug ring. He demanded police conduct medical tests on foreign nationals and even search a house, without a warrant, which some locals believed was a den of vice. He rebuked a police officer for refusing to act without following due process.



Meanwhile crackpot AK justifies vigilantism

Rape tendencies start from drug, sex rackets: says Delhi CM Kejriwal

"Rape tendencies start from drug and sex rackets... If people complain about crime should not the police act?" Kejriwal said, adding that "the people in Delhi will not be a mute spectator and the issue will be taken to the Delhi governor." The press briefing was also attended by Delhi Law Minister Somnath Bharti and Women and Child Welfare Minister Rakhi Birla, who both hit out at the Delhi Police for its inaction on cases raised by them. After reporters questioned the manner in Bharti was caught in a scuffle with the Delhi Police on Wednesday night, Kejriwal said they were right in what they were doing and the police commissioner should sack both the SHOs who were in-charge.
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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby niran » 17 Jan 2014 06:44

RG will be election campaign chief in place of Prime minister candidate:
this has been forced by the fact that RG Baba despite all the queen's money and men
is getting as popular as a house fly, this was brought up by two congress elders: yeah! there stil
remains oldies who are not afraid to speak the truth, on PG leading the charge the same duo
gave them the fact and proved beyond doubt that ebeel bhajapa has enough material to fry vadra janab
several times over and with that PG and may be Madame zee herself will be side chutney and ketchup
so for the time being no PM candidate.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Singha » 17 Jan 2014 07:00

in distorted systems, people of low caliber are promoted 10 levels beyond their true capability. thats the case with RG.
same goes for a bunch of ministers and courtiers now.

one of the facets of IG era is that while a few such people did exist at the higher levels, IG was probably able to keep a check on them and sandbox them to an extent....not so now...its the "monkeys inside ISRO SHAR launch control room" thing...out of control. and IG era did have capable people who rose to the top and deserved it. not so now. wiser heads like P'da were cast out and pensioned off to raisina hill.

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Postby BijuShet » 17 Jan 2014 07:06

I am reading the scenario of AAP vigilante justice as a way to win over youth and rural vote. The young want to see someone act in defiance of convention like in Bollywood where the hero steps into a goonda's lair and beats up everyone and saves the damsel. The viewers love this action vs watching a Anupam Kher movie from the 80's where he is following the law, filing a complaint and winning court battles etc. AAP may be playing to the same audience to show that while others are paralyzed by conventions and established procedures, the AAPwallas are a party of doers.

I view AAP's missteps as a calculated move on their part to improve their standing amongst the lesser educated and younger voters.

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Postby Rahul Mehta » 17 Jan 2014 07:23

Lilo wrote:Waiting for RM ji's take on the Media U-turn on AAP...


The paid-media can take U-turn again. And in between, pls note one compromise NaMo made ---- having lunch with Salman Khan. It was NOT an ordinary lunch. Because Salman Khan and Shahrukh Khan are two of the most important nodal points for Saudi Arabian investments in Bollywood and India to promote Love Jihad in India. So as I had said, if BJP leaders agree with terms and conditions of MNC-owners, Missionaries and Saudi Lobbies, then their respective paid-media will reduce positive coverage to AAP and increase negative coverage of AAP. Now NaMo-fans would like to ignore the lunch as some ordinary event. Well, cant NaMo find a good Muslim in whole India to have lunch with? Salman's Ganesh Puja is just a Taquia. And I heard his father's interview o political issue. Well, he has been a good script writer for decades. So whats the big deal? To look at the real core, pls see the cast in the movies and connect the dots. And you also might want to revise the FACT via google that one of the Salman's movies "Chori Chori Chupake Chupake" was funded by Dawood aide (see http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/diam ... 34065.html ) . Now you can ignore all that as coincidences and say "all is well". I dont.

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And one anti-AAP event in media in chain of events doesnt mean much. After all, to look impartial, the paid-media has cover everyone and from every side.

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The question is --- who is paying Vinod Kumar Binny to shout? And who is paying paid-media to cover Vinod Binny? If it is BJP-leaders, then BJP-leaders are falling into trap. If it later gets proved or even some doubts emerge that BJP leaders are paying AAP MLAs to bring down AK, then there will sympathy wave for AK with twice the force. Or are Congress-leaders paying Vinod Binny? Or is FDI-lobby paying Binny and paid-media to warn AK not to take more anti-FDI-steps? AAP has 28 MLAs and so of 15 MLAs defect, then anti-defection wont apply. But pulling 15 MLAs needs tons of money. And one can recover the costs only if next CM caters him. So I dont see that happening till jun-2014. So IMO, AAP will stabilize soon.

The persons who have sponsored AAP such as MNC-owners , Missionaries, Jindal etc can bring Binny back to his orbit, unless Binny is supported by BJP-leaders or section of MNC-owners themselves. Lets see what happens.

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The unpaid activists are with AK because the unpaid activists think that AK is the only leader in India committed to bringing remarkable changes in India. NaMo doesnt have image of system change as system in Gujarat is same as it ws 12 years back. As long as a party has paid-media and unpaid activists, nothing can stop its growth in middle class voters. We at my Right to Recall Group are trying to convince the FACT to AAPians that AK has no agenda of system change. Whereas most BJP workers are asked only to throw jokes and mud at AK. The anti-AK jokes only makes unpaid-AAPians more aggressive. The mud throwing on small issues does break the armor. IMO, BJP-workers are hitting at tough side of the castle and so wasting their time. Consider Binny-AK clash. The unpaid AAPians simply say "well, such clashes are across all parties and are due to Indian political system". And so Binny-AK clash doesnt reduce image of AK in their eyes. So no matter how much time BJP-workers spend in highlighting this issue, that time will get wasted. What needs to be explained and something we alone are doing is "(1) solution to this AK-Binny mess is direct election of CM, and Right to recall CM, Right to Recall MLA, Right to Recall Ministers, (2) so that such clashes dont happen or dont create mess ; (3) and AK is opposing direct election of CM, RTR-CM, RTR-MLA etc" (4) hence AK is part of problem and not part of solution". Such explanation convinces many AAPians that AK is not doing anything to reduce problems of India. And so they then accept the fact that he is in politics only to cut votes.

If activists waste time, enemies such as China, USA etc will benefit without any direct help. Rest, each one has to decide on his own.
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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby SaiK » 17 Jan 2014 07:25

Rahul's Vision: KAP + AAP == Mughal Invasion(reset = true, redo = true, time set = 11th AD, strategy(rename kings with Gandhi last name);

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Altair » 17 Jan 2014 07:48

BijuShet wrote:I am reading the scenario of AAP vigilante justice as a way to win over youth and rural vote. The young want to see someone act in defiance of convention like in Bollywood where the hero steps into a goonda's lair and beats up everyone and saves the damsel. The viewers love this action vs watching a Anupam Kher movie from the 80's where he is following the law, filing a complaint and winning court battles etc. AAP may be playing to the same audience to show that while others are paralyzed by conventions and established procedures, the AAPwallas are a party of doers.

I view AAP's missteps as a calculated move on their part to improve their standing amongst the lesser educated and younger voters.

By same logic AK can arrest SD and other suspects of corruption in Delhi Congress. Vigilante Justice. Where is that anger against Congress, Why are they diverting public anger on some Nigerians? Justice against corruption in Congress and BJP was their election plank, wasn't it? I see that plank misplaced.

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Postby Shanmukh » 17 Jan 2014 07:58

Altair wrote:By same logic AK can arrest SD and other suspects of corruption in Delhi Congress. Vigilante Justice. Where is that anger against Congress, Why are they diverting public anger on some Nigerians? Justice against corruption in Congress and BJP was their election plank, wasn't it? I see that plank misplaced.


Altair-ji,
I don't know if this is a planned move by AAP, but this is precisely what the Youth Congress did in Delhi in 1976 during the Emergency. Youth Congress members would enact vigilante justice over everyone, including at weddings (There was Guest Control Order then). This is truly obscene.

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Postby BijuShet » 17 Jan 2014 08:14

Altair wrote:
BijuShet wrote:I am reading the scenario of AAP vigilante justice as a way to win over youth and rural vote. The young want to see someone act in defiance of convention like in Bollywood where the hero steps into a goonda's lair and beats up everyone and saves the damsel. The viewers love this action vs watching a Anupam Kher movie from the 80's where he is following the law, filing a complaint and winning court battles etc. AAP may be playing to the same audience to show that while others are paralyzed by conventions and established procedures, the AAPwallas are a party of doers.

I view AAP's missteps as a calculated move on their part to improve their standing amongst the lesser educated and younger voters.

By same logic AK can arrest SD and other suspects of corruption in Delhi Congress. Vigilante Justice. Where is that anger against Congress, Why are they diverting public anger on some Nigerians? Justice against corruption in Congress and BJP was their election plank, wasn't it? I see that plank misplaced.

Sirjee action against Congress will be like biting the hand that feeds you. No can do for AAP but all others are fair game as long as janta janardan is clapping.

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Postby Muppalla » 17 Jan 2014 08:18

AAP, paap, and we will see several miniscule parties, leaders standing in the election and everyone will have money from INC. Exact replica of three to four gondor parties in TS 2004/9. The whole game is simple - identify where BJP is winning but after a tough fight. This is the place of salami slicing and plot of INC is just that simple. You can name the slice as AAP, Nandan Nilinkeni or whatever.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby chaanakya » 17 Jan 2014 08:33

Is this how AAP and Kejariwal minions will deal with people in Delhi?
‘They held us in taxi for 3 hrs, took urine samples, said black people break laws

What type of jokers have been elected by Delhi? Bharati needs to be fired pronto.

Two of the four African women who were taken to a hospital for tests after Delhi Law Minister Somnath Bharti harangued the police on Wednesday night, said they were held captive inside a taxi for over three hours, and that doctors probed their private parts.

The women said that some men surrounded their car and did not let them get out. They were then forcibly taken to the hospital for a medical examination, they claimed. They returned home only around 9 on Thursday morning.

Delhi Police ACP B S Jakhar confirmed that Bharti and other AAP members had surrounded a taxi carrying the African women.

“We were returning from a party, when our taxi was stopped by a few men. They started shouting at us, calling us names. The police were in fact supporting us. They held us captive inside the car for over three hours,” one of the women told The Indian Express.

“The men hit us,” she said, pointing to bruises on her face. According to the women, the men then took them to a hospital. Some police personnel accompanied them, the women said.
“We asked the men where they are taking us. They said we would have to undergo a medical examination to check if we had consumed drugs. We were taken to the hospital and a series of tests were conducted,” she claimed.

Urine samples were taken and their private parts also probed, she said.
“They took our urine samples, put some machines on our body and also cavity searched us. We felt humiliated. We kept telling them that we have not consumed drugs. They then asked for a blood sample which we refused to give,” she said.

The women claimed they were then taken to the police station.

“We were taken to the police station and kept there for over four hours. We returned home only in the morning around 9. The police was, however, very helpful and asked us not to panic. But those other men were after our lives. They did not let us go home,” she said.

The women said they have a lot to complain and hope to get justice.

“There are many Indian people living in Africa but we never ill-treat them the way they have treated us. Some of the men told us that we are blacks and so we indulge in illegal activities. I have an export business. How can they say all this?” she asked.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Altair » 17 Jan 2014 08:58

Ohh dear!!! This is so going to hell...There will be another media firefight today. Where are all the women activists who would scream against Modi? Imagine if this was done in Gujarat. BJP mahila morcha should rake it up for atrocities against women by this moronic Law minister. He should be dead meat by this weekend.

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Postby SaiK » 17 Jan 2014 09:09

does wimmen activists are racially divided? firang, cast, etc.? only certain type of rapes are considered crime by them to take head on the gov?

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Postby Shanmukh » 17 Jan 2014 09:17

SaiK wrote:does wimmen activists are racially divided? firang, cast, etc.? only certain type of rapes are considered crime by them to take head on the gov?


AAP is more secular than some African wimmin, saar. So - shrug.

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Postby Comer » 17 Jan 2014 09:28

BijuShet wrote:I view AAP's missteps as a calculated move on their part to improve their standing amongst the lesser educated and younger voters.


@sjacobtalk
Somnath Bharati says to police: Yeh hum aur aap jaise nahin hain (They are not like you or me). You mean they are not aam aadmi?
‏@sjacobtalk
Bharati asks residents to draw up list of houses "where such people live." I am going to start being nicer to my neighbors. Why take chances
@soniandtv
Somnath Bharti a local hero now after his midnight raid on 'drugs & prostitutes'.So,forget editorial,twitter outrage,the voter is happy !!


What you said checks out from the tweets of the media people. What a cheap mentality. The residents will rejoice till the neighbour complains against them and this Bharti guy raids their houses.
That said, after watching AAP spokespersons, Ashutosh and one Preeti Menon, the calibre of people representing them should surely turn away the educated ones. If you think Congress spokies are arrogant, oh boy you have another think coming. And they are dumb too.

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Postby kmkraoind » 17 Jan 2014 09:31

AAP may hurt BJP prospects in Haryana

Media always twists the meaning to undermine BJP. Everybody knew Haryana was a Congress bastion and even best of BJP supporters thought it will be an uphill task for BJP. Now when BJP is making heavy inroads in Haryana, Paid Media twists it as AAP hurting as BJP :rotfl: . Its too much.
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Postby member_28352 » 17 Jan 2014 09:55

AAP leaders and mantris like Somnath Bharti and Rakhi Birla who are probably not fully retarded like the Prashant Bhushan and Kamal Mitra Chenoy's of the world are doing this to keep themselves relevant. In this I believe they have the support of Fordiwal himself who too is seeing his business going away thanks to the loonies that he's got in his party. So these guys will also now do the Shiv Sena thing and do some goonda girdi to show themselves as Delhi manoos, if I may use the term. Slowly they will realise that doing this goondagirdi without taking bribes is useless. So they will start taking bribes also to do some actual work. Then we will have a Shiv Sena type political party in Delhi. IMHO thats not really a bad thing. They will be limited to one state and a 1-2 LS seats. The lunatics and 400% anti nationals who have found a place in the party will soon be shown the door. If Fordiwal's usefulness is limited only to Delhi then the foreign hands will not find it worthwhile to invest in him and we can all start calling him Khujliwal.

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Postby SaiK » 17 Jan 2014 11:07

If people are shifting their vote pattern from KAP to AAP, then we have the systemic problem being transfered from dynasty to anarchy. The impact Modi needs to create now is much more than what he did thus far.

He needs to come out the attack plan.

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Postby Hari Seldon » 17 Jan 2014 11:34

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Postby Pratyush » 17 Jan 2014 11:38

This is an excellent ground to sue the DP and Delhi law minister for harassment. In delhi court. I will welcome it.

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Postby Lilo » 17 Jan 2014 11:46

BJP shouldnt get into the Nigerian women thing - it will get into a local vs outsider issue (which can be turned emotional with irreversible losses in Dilli). Here AAP is exactly going the MNS way - first 90% reservations for dilli people in Dilli Univ (even when its a central Univ). And now these raids on Nigerians.
Instead get some moles in leftist orgs to paint AAP to be an ideologically bankrupt party(pen opeds in News) - that AAP is harassing women at night (and doing cavity searches) - this is a gender rights issue and should be highlighted (or projected ) as such.

Also I am distressed that cavity searches are being resorted to casually (make a law that a permission email by DM's office is necessary for a cavity search in required cases) .
a cavity search (make this term more specific differentiating b/w upper and lower cavities) means a failure of planning and catching drug trade redhanded of police (in this case of Dilli Police).
Fact is that drug use is snowballing in Delhi and AAP is tapping that anger with these stunts.

Problem is Dilli Police is under Congi for now.

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Postby Singha » 17 Jan 2014 11:58

the usually vocal national commission for women (NCW) stuffed with congi appointees is silent on the mistreatment of these african women?

I think they only bother to stay awake when its "saffron orgs" that do something like this.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby kmkraoind » 17 Jan 2014 13:20

#AAP ministers' vigilante behavior can be best explained by this Telugu saametha.

కనకపు సింహాసనమున
శునకము గూర్చుండబెట్టి శుభ లగ్నమునం
దొనరగ బట్టము గట్టిన
వెనుకటి గుణమేల మాను వినరా సుమతీ.


Rough translation: If you keep a dog on Simhasan, yet it will not loose its old behavior.
Neeti: If you give high positions to unscrupulous elements, they will still retain their street behavior.

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Postby anmol » 17 Jan 2014 14:29

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Postby a_bharat » 17 Jan 2014 14:38

kmkraoind wrote:#AAP ministers' vigilante behavior can be best explained by this Telugu saametha.

కనకపు సింహాసనమున
శునకము గూర్చుండబెట్టి శుభ లగ్నమునం
దొనరగ బట్టము గట్టిన
వెనుకటి గుణమేల మాను వినరా సుమతీ.


Rough translation: If you keep a dog on Simhasan, yet it will not loose its old behavior.
Neeti: If you give high positions to unscrupulous elements, they will still retain their street behavior.

It applies to MMS too.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby JohnTitor » 17 Jan 2014 14:41

nageshks wrote:
Shonu wrote:You can be as pessimistic as you want, but pAAP is over. I saw this coming a long time ago, everyone is dhoti shivering for no reason. Trust me, by the GE, pAAP would have outlived its use and it will wither away.


With all due respects, Shonu-ji, I don't think it is over yet. They have suffered a significant setback, but they still have the media on their side. And they are going to be much more easily forgiven because they are new. And they have extremely powerful foreign backers, who are not going to let their investment sink so easily. And the jholawalas have their own backing in many regions. Finally, they have a small but extremely fanatical, almost cultish following in the country. So - while it is a significant setback for the AAP, the party is not going to sink yet. They will be brought to their knees, only when the AAP's foreign backers are destroyed, or decide to abandon them.

sir, no amount of media can save a dead patient. Media might forgive, but people won't. Remember, these people will feel the wrath more because they claimed to be DIFFERENT. Everything they do and say shows that they are no different. The more AK squeezes AAP for power, the more the other egoistic people within the party will get pissed off and rebel. Remember, people joined this party to win - they don't have the patience or discipline as other party members because those guys have worked for years to get to such a position. These guys got there in a day, so they expect quick results.

Lets not forget that their supporters are also 24hr supporters - youth who are in college who like coke today, pepsi tomorrow. They want to see quick results too. The supporters for both INC & BJP are seasoned and have voted for their party for years if not generations. Also, the youth (who are truthful to themselves) that supported AAP will now see it for what it is. No amount of nautankis by Fakeriwal can change that. Even their so called "rallies" are flop shows. If they really contest 400 LS seats, they will lose their deposit in 390!

In fact, if they had come to power a year earlier, we would be looking at BJP getting 2/3 majority and not the 50% they are aiming for right now.

The only "hardcore" AAP supporters are INC converts. Neither BJP converts nor the fickle youth are with them. So the contest is and has always been b/w AAP and INC. They know this, which is why they are $hitting their pants at the Frankenstein they have created.

Having said that, I do think BJP should be cautious and address the pitfalls that are leading to AAP makin headlines (such as clean politians contesting etc).. but there is no need to be afraid the way RahulMehtaji has been. As I had said during the karnataka elections - a birdie told me BJP was going to lose KAR but will take india. Currently, my sources tell me something better.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby JohnTitor » 17 Jan 2014 14:44

BijuShet wrote:I am reading the scenario of AAP vigilante justice as a way to win over youth and rural vote. The young want to see someone act in defiance of convention like in Bollywood where the hero steps into a goonda's lair and beats up everyone and saves the damsel. The viewers love this action vs watching a Anupam Kher movie from the 80's where he is following the law, filing a complaint and winning court battles etc. AAP may be playing to the same audience to show that while others are paralyzed by conventions and established procedures, the AAPwallas are a party of doers.

I view AAP's missteps as a calculated move on their part to improve their standing amongst the lesser educated and younger voters.

yeah.. but what they forget is , this same group may not even go and vote if there is a new SRK movie out or if dhoni hits a sixer or heck, if the sun is shining too bright

Rahul Mehta wrote:The paid-media can take U-turn again. And in between, pls note one compromise NaMo made ---- having lunch with Salman Khan. It was NOT an ordinary lunch. Because Salman Khan and Shahrukh Khan are two of the most important nodal points for Saudi Arabian investments in Bollywood and India to promote Love Jihad in India.

This I agree with. He could have had lunch with Abdul Kalamji. I am guessing this one was a miscalculation considering the way NaMo was smiling when SK said he would vote congress after eating BJP food.

The question is --- who is paying Vinod Kumar Binny to shout? And who is paying paid-media to cover Vinod Binny? If it is BJP-leaders, then BJP-leaders are falling into trap. If it later gets proved or even some doubts emerge that BJP leaders are paying AAP MLAs to bring down AK, then there will sympathy wave for AK with twice the force. Or are Congress-leaders paying Vinod Binny? Or is FDI-lobby paying Binny and paid-media to warn AK not to take more anti-FDI-steps? AAP has 28 MLAs and so of 15 MLAs defect, then anti-defection wont apply. But pulling 15 MLAs needs tons of money. And one can recover the costs only if next CM caters him. So I dont see that happening till jun-2014. So IMO, AAP will stabilize soon.

Is it always CTs with you?? Why can't binny rebel like any normal human? Does he have to be paid? His ego is paying him - thats what pays most people. While agree that BJP shouldnt indulge in bringing down AAP govt (which AAP will do themselves), I fail to understand your obsession with CTs. Did someone pay for you to post this? How do I know???? :rotfl:
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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby RajeshA » 17 Jan 2014 14:50

For numbers on Bihar check the Timeline of Sachin Reddy ‏@snsachinnandu

BIHAR:

Total 40
BJP 18
RJD 13
Con 3
JDU 6

All States + UT - UP

Total 463
BJP 164
NDA 43
Con 81
UPA 34
Left 29
BJD 14
ADMK 25
AITC 27
TRS 9
YCP 9
DMK 7
JDU 6
Others 15

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Lilo » 17 Jan 2014 15:23

pankajs wrote:Suresh En ‏@surnell 1h

Now #PappuKaPapplu @JhaSanjay is the saving grace for Preeti Menon who is appearing stupid on @thenewshour - He is competing (and winning)
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Anyone has this video?



BJP should get better spokespeople and take the reasons why AAP threat rose more seriously.

Instead of ganging up in a lecturing and hectoring mode to an obviously unhinged woman, (when other congressis like Turd Mehta and Sanjhay Jha are saying same thing why sound like them? , immediately it will look an equal equal between Cong BJP among aapturds) instead go into learned unkle mode and say you (that law minister making night raids) should have pushed in some executive (or legistlative) orders changing regulations in filing an FIR - making it more streamlined and whatnot...and then actively uphold the new laws and rules and then could have made arrests of those "prostitutes".

As congis were giving lectures BJP should have gone one step ahead and given the solutions .
Like acknowledge that filing of an FIR is very difficult for a common man in India, therefore when BJP comes to power they will amend the CRPC etc to make this process easier for a common man.
One must not underestimate the anger in people that there is no justice in the "system" (this issue is separate and more broader to just the corruption issue).

They could have also higlighed the work of Kiran Bed in Delhi and how they will take her advice to stream line the FIR filing process as she tried to do below..

Kiran Bedi launches public grievances website
Retired Indian Police Services officer Kiran Bedi has launched a website for the common man to help them file their complaints. Even petty crimes related to snatching, theft and assault can be lodged with the click of a button.
Submitted on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 18:12

By Prithwi Raj Sinha
New Delhi: Retired Indian Police Services officer Kiran Bedi on Thursday launched a website for the common man to help them file their complaints. Even petty crimes related to snatching, theft and assault can be lodged with the click of a button.

The complaint should be lodged only when the person has visited the police station and the concerned police official is not registering the case.

All complaints lodged on this website would be forwarded to police chiefs of 16 states and to the respective police stations. It is for the police chiefs to entertain the complaint and do a follow up of the case.

The website allows registration of all the complaints which were not looked properly by the police, and based on genuinity of the complaints it would be sent to the respective police stations.

Sources said that close to 11.5 lakh calls were made to the Delhi's Police Control Room in 2007, of which actual number of criminal cases registered stood at just 55,244 in 2007.

The website, launched under the aegis of India Vision Foundation, would act as a forum for grievance redressal and will not function as parallel policing.

The India Vision Foundation focuses on prison reforms, education of children of prisoners, education in urban slums and drug abuse prevention.

Besides these, it also focuses on crime prevention and police reforms, empowerment of women, physical and mental disability, rural development and sports promotion.


As RM ji says BJP should come with legal drafts (or policy papers ) on popular laws they want to implement. Raul Baba is already doing something similar with ads on "his" list of laws passed by UPA supposedly "empowering" the Aam admi .

Time is apt for NaMo to speak about his vision on our country's legal system (including police reforms) and how he will reinstill the belief in our Justice system which has all but evaporated in our society and anarchist tendencies are cropping up of which AAP bandwagoning is just a symptom.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Dilbu » 17 Jan 2014 15:39

Now, AAP targets media, calls it Delhi police spokesperson
New Delhi: Chaos prevailed at the press conference organised by the Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) government after its leaders' met Lieutenant Governor Najeeb Jung on Friday.

During the presser, AAP leader Manish Sisodia told media not to act like a spokesperson of the Delhi police, with which his party is mired in a row over the suspension of four cops.

The comment made by the Urban Development Minister infuriated the reporters, who had questioned him about the AAP's demand for suspension of three SHOs and one ACP against whom the party complained. The LG is conducting a high-level inquiry into the matter, said Sisodia.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Chandragupta » 17 Jan 2014 16:09

I have been raping AAP supporters on FB, glad to say they are left with no answers to defend AAP now. Bombard them with Prashant Bhushan, Kamal Mitra Chenoy, Somnath Bharti, Binny's accusations and they can't respond and run away with their tails tucked between the legs. But when they do respond its all about BJP & Modi. So confirming my belief that AAPtards are converted Khangressis only.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby krishnan » 17 Jan 2014 16:11

mamtan14 ‏@mamtan14 1m

“@MRVChennai:Mani Shankar Iyer was invited by a chamber of commerce in Chennai. Ran a bill of approx Rs 1.5 lacs on liquor for a nite stay.”

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby RajeshA » 17 Jan 2014 16:16

Chandragupta wrote:I have been raping AAP supporters on FB, glad to say they are left with no answers to defend AAP now. Bombard them with Prashant Bhushan, Kamal Mitra Chenoy, Somnath Bharti, Binny's accusations and they can't respond and run away with their tails tucked between the legs. But when they do respond its all about BJP & Modi. So confirming my belief that AAPtards are converted Khangressis only.


Tell them, that's Congress rhetoric and ask them whether they are Congressis!

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Shanmukh » 17 Jan 2014 16:22

Here is a report from AmarUjala that claims that the Nigerian women were in danger of their lives from AAP workers, if the police had not intervened. These lynch mobs reminiscent of Nazi thugs during Kristallnacht.

http://m.amarujala.com/news/samachar/na ... p-workers/

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby krishnan » 17 Jan 2014 16:26

Retweeted by mamtan14
MediaCrooks ‏@mediacrooks 8m

"Maa usee ke saath jayegi... jiske pass baal hai... " .. The only balding guy is...
:rotfl:

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Altair » 17 Jan 2014 16:28

Chandragupta wrote:I have been raping AAP supporters on FB, glad to say they are left with no answers to defend AAP now. Bombard them with Prashant Bhushan, Kamal Mitra Chenoy, Somnath Bharti, Binny's accusations and they can't respond and run away with their tails tucked between the legs. But when they do respond its all about BJP & Modi. So confirming my belief that AAPtards are converted Khangressis only.

+116
I Have been doing the same. I am just bombarding relentlessly using words like traitors, terrorists,crooks liberally. They are just scared $hit of Modi. I just corner them and pump the Kamal Mitra chenoy and Prashant Bhushans public statements and voila, they just run like hell...
I am having so much fun.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby pankajs » 17 Jan 2014 16:34

Most of the folks who are sticking around with crap like YY, PB and KMC are JNU/Jhollawalla type. They have just found a new Messiah when the old CPI/CMP/Forward bloc just do not look sexy enough.

+ ex-CON
+ maoist
+ all other malcontents

These folks will never support BJP what to talk of Modi.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby pankajs » 17 Jan 2014 16:37

Bhell ..??
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Headlines Today ‏@HeadlinesToday 1m

Congress workers protest as Bhagat Singh Kranti Sena's Tajinder Pal Singh Bagga sells tea outside the #AICCmeet venue.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby panduranghari » 17 Jan 2014 17:37

BijuShet wrote:I view AAP's missteps as a calculated move on their part to improve their standing amongst the lesser educated and younger voters.


Too many voices speaking makes the entire message redundant. Besides they have to answer the question of Ford Foundation Funding. It will become an issue unless AAP implodes completely, which seems more likely. The reach for AAP is due to media and perhaps this may be its undoing. AAP has no time to get to the village level. Funding issues notwithstanding.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby archan » 17 Jan 2014 17:42

They have now accused media, so they might not get the same backing unless there are a lot of $$ involved.


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