Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 22 Mar 2014 23:44

Swamygaru,
Can you afford to take on damage by enabling an image to the voters of being a confused party? That's all . Take care of these people after winning the election. These are distractions right now aren't they.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 23 Mar 2014 02:50

आपका वोट
नतीजा| पिछला नतीजा

ऐसा लगता है कि बीजेपी में अन्य पार्टियों के बागी नेताओं को शामिल करने की होड़ मची है. इससे लोगों में क्या संदेश जा रहा है और आप इसे किस नजरिए से देखते हैं?

पार्टी को अपने नेताओं पर भरोसा नहीं है
पार्टी हर कीमत पर सत्ता पाना चाहती है

this is the standard of opinion poll going on aajtak these days, the questions fielded here are, BJP is accomodating rebel from other parties in large numbers , is it because
(A) Party doesn;t trust its own leaders
OR (B) It wants to get power any how
Pls vote-----

[heads I win tails you lose]

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 23 Mar 2014 03:38

SwamyG wrote:
SwamyG wrote:So now Jaswant acting up too , where are those people who keep saying BJP != Congress. Barring RSS people and politicians with some ideologies, when rubber meets the road, when it comes to politicking BJP =============== Congress. One can accept Congress being Congress, but BJP the much touted party that aims and wants to be different has managed to create itself just like any other party. No doubt Kejriwal types are able to influence disgruntled people.
RajeshA wrote: Reading your post, I think my comment earlier was tailor-cut as a response to yours.

Both parties BJP and Congress may be same if you're observing the politicking of their politicos. However there is a BIG difference.

BJP is a carrier of Hindutva Cause. Congress is a carrier of a manufactured image of Freedom Struggle against the British which lies in the past, and has no vision for the future except to let Hindus be shafted at the Temple of Secularism.

To some extent both parties can translate their causes into policies when in power. So that is a big difference.

I don't know why there is an expectation that BJP politicos would in any way be different from their Congress counterparts or from that of any other party, as far as vying for personal power is concerned. All it proves is that the Hinduva Cause is not greater than their personal interests, but it is also wrong to say, it is not there as a second priority.

Would one prefer a politico who has Hindutva Cause as a second priority or a politico who works for a system intent on destroying the Hindutva Cause?
Boss, when rubber meets the road what did BJP do? During the Dark Decade, they were hand in gloves with Congress. If not for media or Su Swamy, many of the scams would have been still unreported. BJP did nothing as per me. It has corrupt politicians on its party, and distributes seats on caste and winnability factors. No different. No ideology. Nothing saar. All explanations are rationalizations by supporters. Sad onlee. Yet we have to support these jokers.

SwamyG ji,

If I may say so, the road here is full of sharp nails. So BJP has basically been trying to not let the rubber meet the road.

Question is not what did BJP do. Question is what BJP did not do. Contrary to common belief, though not one among many BRFites, Indian sociopolitical environment and the entrenched Colonial-Nehruvian ecosystem is not really hospitable to Hindutvavadis.

After Bapu ji's death, Congress govt. had almost banned RSS and folded it up for good. Hindutvavad has been growing as a "peaceful rise", as an ostensibly coopted organization from which the establishment need not fear.

Perhaps the granularity level at which you are looking at Congress and BJP is so high that apples too would look like oranges - BJP equal-equal with Congress. One would need to come down a level or two and then one would notice the differences.

Here a PM can say that certain minorities can have first rights on the resources and the statement does not look awkward.

So expanding the organization when the Congress could come down on you at any time and squash you like an insect is a daunting task. When Modi was elected Chairman of Central Election Committee, just see how Congress started crying "foul" by RSS, as if they had broken some solemn pledge or promise.

So if one wants to ascertain differences between Congress and BJP, one would know that BJP has not spoken of "Saffron Terror" or gave preference to Muslims over others or been easy on Jihadi terror. Nor does BJP promote slaughterhouses or pink revolution. BJP is also not working overtime to give Bangladeshis an Aadhaar Card.

It is all that BJP does not do in comparison to Congress that matters.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 23 Mar 2014 04:28

RajeshA wrote:In Thiruvananthapuram (Trivandrum), it seems Shashi Tharoor's hired goondas have hacked a shopkeeper/ restaurant owner named Yousef to death after he questioned him.
More rumors: Congress is not letting anybody into the Ambalathara area, where this happened!
Tharoor turned out to be real Congress material.

Should not he be major suspect in his Fru's Death? Man have show deadly intent again in this case.

Santosh · Post by **Santosh** » 23 Mar 2014 07:31

Couple weeks ago someone said that the only thing that can beat BJP now is BJP itself. MSM seems to have fully embraced this diktat. No more AAP nautanki, no more focus on corruptions, no more focus on Congi ticket distributions or the mess in there. Single focus seems to be to play up difference in within BJP and allies. Without media O2, AAP may die a slow crippling death in 2014.

vic · Post by **vic** » 23 Mar 2014 08:36

What is msm?

Nitesh · Post by **Nitesh** » 23 Mar 2014 09:22

vic wrote:What is msm?

main stream media

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 23 Mar 2014 10:56

Poor khujliwal...todays used condom.
he should himself decide where he wants to contest and let the world know.

as for mithaiwalla he can serve his native place without being an MP as pvt citizen ...all these sevaks want to serve from lutyens bungalow only. Time to kick him out and let him join his mentors in the congress.

negi · Post by **negi** » 23 Mar 2014 12:08

That video of Amit Shah being grilled by champus from Hindi MSM was clearly pre-planned and rehearsed; whenever some joker fumbled while framing a question the host was chiming in and for some miraculous reason what was about to be asked .For fck's sake this is about 2014 GE and all the questions were around Hindus , Muslims, temple and 4-5 odd tribal areas of Gujarat. Not a single mention of national security, development , policy making etc etc.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 23 Mar 2014 13:11

Nagma actress & MP candidate molested by congress MLA in full public view
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/video/nagm ... 50801.html

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 23 Mar 2014 13:23

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/specials/lok-sabha-elections-2014/news/Vaiko-calls-for-United-States-of-India/articleshow/32521267.cms

MDMK chief Vaiko on Saturday called for revoking the ban on LTTE and strengthening the country's federal structure on the lines of the USA, a demand which is unlikely to go down well with his national ally, BJP. Releasing his party's manifesto in Chennai, Vaiko said India should be called "United States of India", not Union of India, and "there is a need to review the Constitution".

The party, in its manifesto, vowed to revoke the ban on LTTE and make efforts for a referendum for a separate homeland for Tamils in Sri Lanka. In another promise that could cause unease in BJP, Vaiko said the controversial Sethusamudram project should be implemented after addressing the concerns of local communities and environmentalists. He said the party will strive for the closure of the Kudankulam nuclear power plant in coastal Tuticorin district.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 23 Mar 2014 13:27

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/fathers-and-sons-no-longer-an-anathema-in-tn-politics/article5819771.ece

When he launched the Pattali Makkal Katchi (PMK), founder S. Ramadoss declared that none of his family members would enter politics. Years later, Anbumani Ramadoss, a doctor by training, justified his foray saying that he also had the right to choose a path for himself. Dr. Ramadoss is now again in the fray for the Dharmapuri seat, contesting on the PMK’s ‘Mango’ symbol.

Karti Chidambaram, Congress candidate for the Sivaganga constituency this time says, “My career in the Congress was not fast-tracked because I am the son of P. Chidambaram. In fact, on many occasions, the status denied me opportunities even though I have been in active politics since 1996, when the Tamil Maanila Congress (TMC) was formed”.

As administrative work kept his high-profile father busy in the Central government, it was his son who took care of the follow-up work in Sivaganga, even as he emerged as a leader of a major group within the Congress in his own right, on par with leaders like G. K. Vasan, son of the late Congress veteran, G.K. Moopanar.

A.P.C.V. Shanmugam is another son testing the waters after a long gap of 25 years. Son of A.P.C. Veerabahau, the TNCC President between 1969 and 1971, Mr. Shanmugam is contesting from Tuticorin Lok Sabha constituency.

Another former TNCC president, M. Krishnasamy, and a sitting MP elected from Arani, has now given way to his son, Vishnu Prasad. A former MLA, Mr. Vishnu Prasad is the candidate for Arani in the ensuing polls. Prasad is also the brother-in-law of Dr. Anbumani Ramadoss, but still face challenges from the PMK, also in the race there.

Naesey Rajesh, the candidate for Arakkonam constituency, is the son of Naesey Ramachandran, who had his roots in the AIADMK and contested as a candidate of the faction led by Jayalalithaa in 1989.

The 35-year old Rajesh, general secretary of the Youth Congress, said his victory was bright as the two Assembly segments—Tiruttani and Sholingur—had a huge presence of traditional Congress voters.

Besides these new scions, Mohan Kumaramangalam, son of late Rangarajan Kumaramangalam (from Salem), Arul Anbarasu (Sriperumbudur), son of former MP Era Anbarasu former MP, Vijay Ilanchezhian (Vellore), son of former MP K. Jayamohan former MP, are also in the electoral fray.

In the DMK, though many leaders sought tickets for their wards, only N. Periyasami, the district secretary of Tuticorin, could secure a seat for his son, N. Jagan. He will be contesting from Tuticorin constituency. But similar wishes of former DMK Ministers Duraimurugan and Suba Thangavelan could not be fulfilled as the party had to accommodate others.

Perhaps the only exception in the DMK is Tamizhachi Thangapandian, daughter of late Thangapandian and sister of former State Minister Thangam Thennarasu. She was offered a Lok Sabha seat, but Ms. Tamizachi, an erudite speaker, declined it.

In the AIADMK also, Dr. Jayavardhan, son of former Assembly Speaker, D. Jayakumar, has been given the South Chennai Lok Sabha constituency.

Even the Left parties are not entirely free of this trend either. In the CPI(M), U. Vasuki, the North Chennai candidate, is the daughter of the senior CPI(M) leader R. Umanath,

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 23 Mar 2014 13:34

Lotus shouldn't be this open-door either... this guy is a known toad who's collaborated with psec-Cong agenda in the past to malign not just lotus but all saffron orgs onlee...

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 23 Mar 2014 13:35

Pramod Muthalik of Mangalore pub attack welcomed by Karnatka BJP
With AAP dying own death MSM focusing on BJP bashing full time now.

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 23 Mar 2014 13:54

Why are they hell bent on shooting themselves on the foot?

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 23 Mar 2014 14:00

Pramod Muthalik joining BJP is biggest ch@@tiyapa....god knows whose hair-brained idea is this!

bhargava · Post by **bhargava** » 23 Mar 2014 14:09

D4 striking back ?

member_28468 · Post by **member_28468** » 23 Mar 2014 14:27

just saw ghosnapatra on ABP news amit shah was the guest.
He is alone and all are congrese pseudo becularist(boktae he).gave a beating to debond it is my second interview of amit shah which i watched .He is fabulous not any single question which he avoide.

member_28468 · Post by **member_28468** » 23 Mar 2014 14:29

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEPK_a5ZuuA

rkirankr · Post by **rkirankr** » 23 Mar 2014 16:03

rohitvats wrote:Pramod Muthalik joining BJP is biggest ch@@tiyapa....god knows whose hair-brained idea is this!

Forget about Mission 272. Expect a third front or LKA driven lame duck NDA. RAGA in 2019 looks a reality.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 23 Mar 2014 16:27

bhargava wrote:D4 striking back ?

No; part of NaMo's mission 272.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 23 Mar 2014 16:28

SwamyG wrote: Added: Oh, even if one were to agree your (invalid) arguments to be valid, is it not BJP's responsibility to educate/inform the voter base? Or do you think BJP can perch on the ivory pedestal, and all the onus is on the voters to chose responsibly without the right information?

SwmayG, democracy is a two way street, the voter needs to self inform themselves to a basic level.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 23 Mar 2014 16:43

#PramodMuthalik being inducted into #BJP is like #Congress giving support to #AAPChaos govt in Delhi

#SriRamSene == #NaxalAAP

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 23 Mar 2014 16:51

Am sure inducting someone like Mutalik has electoral calculations. So who is going to vote because of Mutalik? Will that be enough to compensate the loss of votes.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 23 Mar 2014 16:54

idiots, what a harakiri, I am fed up of BJP screwing itself (£$%^&*&^%$£)

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 23 Mar 2014 17:21

Just asking but does not XYZ joining BJP mean subscribing to it's ideology and not vice versa?

archan · Post by **archan** » 23 Mar 2014 17:24

Did he serve any time for his antics back then? The woman was brutally dragged. It is perhaps the grass roots cadre which he might have and TN BJP probably needs.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 23 Mar 2014 17:26

Tweets say that Muthalik's membership is cancelled with immediate effect.

http://inagist.com/all/447703749100707841/

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 23 Mar 2014 17:34

I hope they investigate why he had to be inducted and what is the calculation behind it. Was surprised to see Jagdish Shettar level welcome to Mutalik. So this is not some booth level decision but top level guys were involved.
Will be good to see which side some of these guys play for.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 23 Mar 2014 17:34

Breaking. BJP central leadership asks Karnataka unit to cancel the membership of Pramod Mutalik. This has been done with immediate effect!!

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 23 Mar 2014 18:08

Whats the take of people from Mangalore region in BRF on Muthalik? Is he the terrorist he is painted to be without any redeeming features?Was there no subtext to the incident? Was it plain boorishness/thuggery of lumpen elements?

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 23 Mar 2014 18:32

Paul wrote: FYI...He is younger brother to Lt. Gen Hanut Singh, India's foremost armored warfare exponent.

I read somewhere Gen Hanut Singh is a cousin. Will someone correct me if I am wrong?
Gautam

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 23 Mar 2014 18:52

My guess is people who are not happy with Yediruppa's entrance would have engineered this. Now who would that be

Sidd · Post by **Sidd** » 23 Mar 2014 19:57

svenkat wrote:Whats the take of people from Mangalore region in BRF on Muthalik? Is he the terrorist he is painted to be without any redeeming features?Was there no subtext to the incident? Was it plain boorishness/thuggery of lumpen elements?

BJP lost 19 out of 20 seats in the coastal regions in the last assembly election. It is considered to be its strong hold.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 23 Mar 2014 20:00

^^^^

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanut_Singh_Rathore

Hanut Singh is the elder brother of former Finance minister of India Jaswant Singh. He was born in Jasol village in Rajasthan. He retired as Lt. General. It is said that if was made incharge of operation brasstacks he would have changed the map of India.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 23 Mar 2014 20:33

James B wrote:MJ Akbar is an indic at heart & not inflicted with sickular bug. MJ named his son 'Prayaag' and his daughter 'Avantika' .

He was also spokesperson of Rajiv Gandhi at one time.

He also was an MP on Congress ticket in 1989.

I don't know about all that. I remember when Babri was made rubble, he made statements that almost look like something like Bhukari or Owaisi. The Ashrafs really talk like seculars but they really are very different. He can be into party but BJP has learnt a lot probably from its previous government and lessons learnt will be used when it comes to inner circles of governance. He can be India's ambassador to Iran.

Sarfarosh movie has two main characters played by Naseeruddin Shah and Mukesh Rishi. India surely has several like the character played by Mukesh Rishi but has to be careful with shades of the character played by Naseeruddin Shah.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 23 Mar 2014 20:34

bhargava wrote:D4 striking back ?

For sure.

The state BJP president was present at the event.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 23 Mar 2014 20:38

Breaking News ! Pramod Muthalik axed from BJP just hours after inducting him into the party ! BJP has a knack of shooting itself in the foot, and nowhere in India is it more apparent then Karnataka - the only southern Indian state where they have some hold.

Coastal Karnataka has always been a BJP stronghold, but thanks to BJP's incredible stupidity , they have managed to throw away whatever little goodwill that remained in Dakshina Kannada. Pramod Muthalik and his henchmen are 2-bit goons, rowdy sheeters and hustlers. Congress has already milked the church vandalism, homestay resort attack and pub attack to the maximum. The last thing BJP wants to do is to be seen with the Rama Sena,VHP and Bajrang Dal crowd. Yet in their infinite wisdom, they inducted Muthalik and then axed him !

More madness from BJP by pitting an outsider and controversial Shobha Karandlaje against a heavy weight like JP Hegde in Udupi, who is immensely popular in the region. They then sidelined an old timer , a hassan native and popular BB Shivappa by giving ticket an outsider from Mysore,Vishwanath, and asking him to contest from Hassan ! And then they go on to take a Hassan native Pratap Simha and ask him to fight from Mysore ! Utter madness !

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 23 Mar 2014 20:44

bhargava wrote:D4 striking back ?

There seems to be a concerted effort to sabotage prospects of BJP in Karnataka! First not willing to let in BS Yeddyurappa. Then open resistance to merger of BSR Congress into BJP. Then dissent to B. Sreeramulu entry into BJP. Now pulling in a guy - Pramod Muthalik, who can be used by Congress to go on the offensive against BJP and all women supporters of BJP would run off.

Till now however, NaMo and BSY have fought their way uphill. But the efforts continue.

In Karnataka, Congress and BJP go head to head. Any seats for BJP comes from Congress's account. Whereas in Rajasthan, Gujarat, MP, Chhattisgarh, it is less and less likely that Congress, which is in opposition can mount an effective offensive, in Karnataka there is a chance.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 23 Mar 2014 20:50

Ambar wrote: More madness from BJP by pitting an outsider and controversial Shobha Karandlaje against a heavy weight like JP Hegde in Udupi, who is immensely popular in the region.

With the exit of Haladi Sreenivasa Shetty, BJP has only one leader in the Udupi Chikmaglur region - C T Ravi (unless you want to count the controversial Jeevaraj from Sringeri). Yediyurappa got his cooperation and nominated Shobha as the candidate there - her nomination was a sop to Yediyurappa, and a desire to keep him in good humour.

They then sidelined an old timer , a hassan native and popular BB Shivappa by giving ticket an outsider from Mysore,Vishwanath, and asking him to contest from Hassan !

For starters, the BJP nominee is C H Vijayashankar, from Hunsur. B B Shivappa is well past his sell by date. If he could not win the battle against Deve Gowda in 98, when Shivappa was at his peak, he is not going to do it now. B B Shivappa can't win his old Assembly segment, Sakaleshapura, against Deve Gowda's nominees (and, in fact, he failed miserably fielding his protege in Assembly 2013 in Sakaleshapura). There are plenty of Kurubas in the Holenarasipur-Arkalgud belt, and C H Vijayashankar can try to take advantage of that fact. But it is just a bit of a party building exercise in the region. BJP has no one who can challenge Deve Gowda.

And then they go on to take a Hassan native Pratap Simha and ask him to fight from Mysore ! Utter madness !

Vijayashankar has made too many enemies in Mysore. Also, his main USP was that he could get the Kuruba votes in Periyapatna-Hunsur region. But with Siddaramaiah, few Kurubas are going to vote for him - Siddaramaiah has a cult following in the region. So, it was better to try to consolidate the middle class votes in Mysore and the Kodavas in Coorg, for which Pratap Simha is a much better choice.