Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

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Postby member_23651 » 30 Apr 2014 16:16

Guys need proofs on Binayak Sen and Udaykumar being hardcore naxals for convincing a hardcore dilli aaptard. Why was udaykumar bailed when he got arrested on making bombs?

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Postby Raja Ram » 30 Apr 2014 16:16

I thought as much...there are usually two peaks for polling .....early morning and two hours before close. If the final tally goes past 60% overall, then I think it will be a positive super bonus for the BJP.

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Postby rohitv » 30 Apr 2014 16:23

AnantS wrote:Guys need proofs on Binayak Sen and Udaykumar being hardcore naxals for convincing a hardcore dilli aaptard. Why was udaykumar bailed when he got arrested on making bombs?



You need to show him the video of Ashwini Updhayay, founder member and ex-National Executive Council Member of AAP, who mentioned that it was common for "Wanted Naxals" from Chhattisgarh and "Kashmiri Separatists" to visit AAP office


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Postby merlin » 30 Apr 2014 16:27

I wonder if this EC directive to nail Modi can be used to nail the EC and more specifically the CEC instead for all the partisanship shown? That storify is very interesting indeed. EC will be crazy to pursue this matter but then nothing is beneath them.

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Postby niran » 30 Apr 2014 16:37

In Punjab Dera still hold sway with massive voters under their influence and till now no one not even
Bjp has been able to break the SAD Dera hold or alliance.

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Postby Raja Ram » 30 Apr 2014 16:39

My sources are indicating that the landslide is confirmed....I prefer to remain a doubter...let us wait for 16 May!

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Postby RajeshA » 30 Apr 2014 16:45

Raja Ram wrote:My sources are indicating that the landslide is confirmed....I prefer to remain a doubter...let us wait for 16 May!


TN, some other state or nation-wide?

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Postby member_20317 » 30 Apr 2014 16:47

Re. Maoists in AAP etc.


The canary trap article by Col. RSN Singh should help too. He being ex RAW.

Kejriwal: India's biggest scam | Canary Trap

Cannot find the link.

Also this article by the same man could be just as good since it put in perspective the dhakan chaap followers of AAP who are especially vulnerable to the budhijeebi types.


http://www.canarytrap.in/2014/04/08/no-more-phds-mr-modi/

No more PhDs Mr Modi
Naxals - 1BY RSN SINGH

On 7 April 2014, IED blasts by the Maoists killed three security forces personnel and injured eight in Aurangabad district of Bihar. Those killed belonged to the CRPF, which included a Deputy Commandant, Indrajeet Singh. The district of Aurangabad has experienced Maoist attacks with vulgar regularity every three to four months. In fact, 60 percent of fatal causalities inflicted by the Maoists in Bihar have been in the districts of Aurangabad, Gaya and Jamui.

It was a heart rending sight to hear implorations by a profusely bleeding CRPF personnel for evacuation. He repeatedly said that he had two small children and family to support and needed to be saved.

This author had somewhat a similar experience in the 80s while serving on the Siachen Glacier. It was at 20,000 ft., the temperature being -55 degree Celsius. The neighbouring post separated by another hill feature, had come under fire and one of the soldiers had received a burst of Medium Machine Gun fire on his abdomen area. Repeated efforts by Cheetah helicopters to evacuate him were unsuccessful because of very heavy fire from the enemy. This author meanwhile was in constant conversation with the bleeding soldier so as to distract him till his evacuation. Three hours hence, his radio set fell silent.

The above incident was at Siachen Glacier, an area where no journalist can make ‘stories’.

In Aurangabad, a journalist could reach the location where medical teams could not despite being on major road axis! The journalist had a field day in filing his ‘story’. To make his ‘story’ sensational the rank of the imploring and bleeding CRPF Constable (Dilip), was changed to Deputy Commandant (Indrajeet Singh). His ‘story’ took a callous turn when he began questioning the perniciously bleeding Constable about the details of the mine blast. It was only in the evening that it was clarified the Deputy Commandant had died much before and the constable is still alive.

This journalistic omission or commission or both, is symptomatic of the blasé attitude of the ‘press’ with regard to the casualties of security forces.

In Siachen, the jawan bled to death in defending the frontiers of the country, and at Aurangabad, the Deputy Commandant and his two men from the CRPF died while defending ‘democracy’ in India. They were engaged in election related security duties. Without frontiers there can be no India and without democracy there can be no freedom and liberty. The security situation in the country therefore desperately demands that our policy makers and the citizens begin to identify ‘external enemies’ and ‘internal enemies’.

In Siachen, the jawan sacrificed his life so that the ‘gates to Delhi’ are not flung open for the enemy to come to Delhi and slap our citizens. It is another matter that during this election time the theatrics of a man slapping a fledgling political leader dominated the media eclipsing the sacrifice of the CRPF personnel. But for sacrifice of such personnel, the Maoists when in power in Delhi, would declare such road-shows by political leaders as ‘reactionary’ activity in ultra-leftist parlance. In that event, the intellectual support to them in Delhi would be in abundance from extortionists, lawyers, journalists and so-called intellectuals, who now crowd the ranks of ‘Aam Aadmi Party’. The theatrics would be irreversible, as the Maoists believe in ‘One Party Rule’.

The people of India therefore must realize that their very right to ‘vote’ entails vigilance and sacrifice of security forces.

When soldiers are beheaded on the Line of Control (LoC), it is the handiwork of the military-intelligence complex of Pakistan. When there is a bomb blast within India, they are orchestrated by the ISI – Jihadi combine. The same combine has now struck nexus with the Maoists, who also enjoy the ideological and financial backing of various ultra-leftist organizations in European Countries. The same countries have played no less role in destroying the fabric of Nepal. One of the major sources of funding of the ISI is drug smuggling. In the district of Aurangabad too, swathes of territory under Maoist control are under ‘opium cultivation’, something which has been screened on television many times.

Therefore, the people of India must realize that proxy war does not extend to Kashmir alone, and is not confined to jihadi terror but extends to Maoist terror as well.

The Pakistan sponsored jihadis in a brazen attempt tried to bomb a political rally in Patna in October 2013, the Maoists on the other hand are now trying to derail the election process by issuing boycott calls and killing security forces. Where is the doubt, therefore in deciding who constitutes the ranks of India’s enemies?

If the Maoists enjoy popular support, then why ‘boycott calls’? If they are well-wishers of the people, then why destroy electric pylons and communication towers? It is the media, and not entirely misplaced, which hailed the development initiative by Nitish Kumar, in the last seven years in Bihar. Then, how is it that the numbers of districts consumed by Maoists have increased with every passing year? As per the last count in 2013, it was 23 out of 38 districts!

Allegedly, there have been insinuations about the Speaker of the Bihar Assembly being in truck with the Maoists. There are also suggestions that the present government in the Jharkhand owes half its seats to manipulation by Maoists. Come elections and the extortion industry of the Maoists burgeons. This nexus between some politicians, political parties and Maoists provides impetus to the geographical spread of the Maoist terror. This explains the spread of Maoist terror in Bihar. This also explains the presence of Maoists in the ranks of ‘Aam Aadmi Party’. The overt political attack from the Maoists in concert with the jihadis is therefore simultaneously on the conducive states as well as the National Capital.

Can there be free and fair voting around Dhibra Police Station in Aurangabad, where the three CRPF personnel were killed recently? The SHO Amar Kumar is also injured. It is not that the Indian establishment is not alive to the threat. The number of phases in which the elections are conducted betrays the internal security situation of the country.

In the ultimate analysis, the soldier at Siachen and the Deputy Commandant bled to death, to arrest the loss of blood Indian ‘democracy’ attributed to enemies outside and within. Two generation of PhD aspirants have graduated from being ‘students’ to ‘guides’ on ‘Kashmir’ and ‘Left Wing Extremism’. These so-called experts armed with PhDs under the patronage of an academic prime minister have brought this country to ‘brink of collapse’. No more PhDs, Mr Modi, if you want to salvage India.

(RSN Singh is a former military intelligence officer who later served in the Research & Analysis Wing. The author of two books: Asian Strategic and Military Perspective and Military Factor in Pakistan, he is also a Guest Blogger with Canary Trap. The opinions expressed by the author and those providing comments are theirs alone, and do not reflect the opinions of Canary Trap or any employee thereof)

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Postby pankajs » 30 Apr 2014 17:05

Minhaz Merchant ‏@minhazmerchant 10m

At 5pm: Punjab turnout 58%, WB 80%, Telangana > 60%, Bihar, UP, Guj > 50%

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Rahul M » 30 Apr 2014 17:07

abhijitm wrote:
Rahul M wrote:wtf, why ?

These commies and now TMCs have ruined our glorious Bengal. We should not let it slip away. Must recover.

TMC is the same as left with diff election flag.
hoping that central bjp will work in WB to create base once the GE is over. they couldn't take advantage of the modi wave due to lack of ground force.

@rohitv, check AAP's TV face, kamal mitra chenoy's TL. he wants to wage war against India !

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby member_20317 » 30 Apr 2014 17:16

Re. Maoists in AAP.


Also these two should help.

First this one by our man :D :
http://www.claws.in/index.php?action=details&m_id=1128&u_id=78

That international activists were sympathetic to the Maoist cause was apparent some years ago when members of the European Commission descended on Raipur, the capital of Chhattisgarh to witness the trial of Binayak Sen in the High Court. What came as a rude shock however was the appointment subsequently of Binayak Sen as a member of a health committee of the Planning Commission. Here was an organ of government cocking a snook at another segment of government engaged in restraining the Maoists, assaulting in the process the psyche and morale of the security forces. The anti-national agenda of the white-collared Maoists triumphed over the patriotism, sacrifice and diligence of the security forces.



This second article is a good work on the Maoists and mentions Binayak Sen and Congress (don't forget Binayak Sen is in AAP)

http://www.claws.in/administrator/uploaded_files/1348462724MP%20-35.pdf

Manekshaw PaPer no. 35, 2012

Centre for Land Warfare Studies
New Delhi


People’s Liberation Guerrilla
Army of CPI (Maoist)

By

Rishi Chhikara


The issue of
Binayak Sen has severely dented the resolve to fight the Maoists. The Centre
could perhaps have avoided naming a person convicted by the high court for
life imprisonment as an advisory member in the Planning Commission with
respect to health issues. This action indicates a rift between the Centre and
the state government which belong to rival political parties.


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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby panduranghari » 30 Apr 2014 17:16

Suraj wrote:Changes to the constitution require a simple majority of the total seats of each house and 2/3rds majority of those present and voting. Amendments under Art 368 require the additional backing of at least half the states.


What about Article 254 where centre can bypass Rajya Sabha? Will that be useful?

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby member_20317 » 30 Apr 2014 17:20

Re. Anti nationals in AAP or supporting AAP

http://www.indiaresists.com/citizens-statement-on-the-execution-of-afzal-guru/

Citizens Statement on the Execution of Afzal Guru
FEBRUARY 10, 2013 10:52 PM15 COMMENTS
We, concerned citizens from parts of India, are shocked by the secretive manner of the execution of Afzal Guru who was accused in the Parliament attack case and condemn the continued use of death penalty. We are also dismayed to know that his family members were not informed about the hanging and his body was not handed over to them as per colonial prison rules that should be revised immediately. As there are a number of doubts in his case regarding the evidence produced that was primarily circumstantial in nature and that he was not provided proper legal assistance at the trial stage, sentencing for life should have been the preferred option.

The timing of the execution with elections around the corner is giving rise to strong suspicion that this decision could have been guided not just by judicial considerations but also by political exigencies, and hence is a matter for concern for democratic traditions and civilized values of our society.

All acts of terror and criminality deserve exemplary punishment but death penalty should not be used as a punishment as we all recognize that the process of justice always contains the possibility of error and misjudgment. Hence all judicial decisions should have the scope for review and redress. Death Penalty has no such scope. Further, the choice of awarding life sentence or death penalty rests solely on the judge hearing the case. Thus the personal stand of different members of the judiciary can have crucial bearing on the judgment.

In the US, the state of taxes has the largest rate of death penalty and the largest number of lethal crimes. The history of capital punishment has shown that it does not have any deterrent effect on crime. And thus there is nothing in its favour. A number of countries across the world have already abolished death penalty. Larger and larger sections of democratic opinion in this country and all over the world have been demanding that Capital Punishment be removed from the statue books since it is cruel, violent and violates the sanctity of human life. We demand immediate steps to abolish the death penalty.

Admiral L. Ramdas- Ali Bagh
Mahesh Bhatt- Mumbai
Prof. Achin Vanaik- New Delhi
Prof. Rama Melkote- Hyderabad
Prof. Ritu Diwan- Mumbai
Dr. Sandeep Panday-Lucknow
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Dr. Mazher Hussain- Hyderabad
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Dr, Samata Roshni- Hyderabad
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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Rahul M » 30 Apr 2014 17:24

re: Binayak Sen, please go through this book http://www.flipkart.com/let-apos-s-call ... rpgqc2gx7j

the author is a pro-maoist reporter who was embedded with them for a long time. to his credit he mentions a number of times that active maoists admit sen was one of them and even sent money for sen's legal expenses.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby pankajs » 30 Apr 2014 17:35

Dr. Praveen Patil ‏@5Forty3 9m

TRS is number one party in Telanagana assembly polls, but here is a gravity defying stat - 26% of TRS voters have voted 4 BJP in MP polls!!!

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby pankajs » 30 Apr 2014 17:39

Yashwant Deshmukh ‏@cvoter 4m

ECI reports in the seats which have gone to poll; had polled 22 cr votes in 2009. While 2014 has polled 35 cr votes so far. Jump of 14 Cr.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby muraliravi » 30 Apr 2014 17:39

Gujarat has crossed 60% voting at 6 PM. This is IMHO the best news of the day. One of the reasons why BJP always does well in assembly compared to the LS in Gujarat is the higher turnout in Assembly polls. I guess one reason is the scorching heat there in summers. So kudos to gujaratis who have voted in huge numbers in LS polls after a long time in 45 C temperatures.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby pankajs » 30 Apr 2014 17:41

NDTV ‏@ndtv 6m

FIR filed against Narendra Modi and channels who televised his speech after he voted in Gujarat this morning #Elections2014
Zee News ‏@ZeeNews 7m

National Commission for Women issues notice to Ramdev http://zeenews.india.com/news/general-e ... 28626.html

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby James B » 30 Apr 2014 18:04

Dr. Patil confirms that Arun Jaitley is winning Amristsar with landslide majority. AAP cutting massively into Congress.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby member_28502 » 30 Apr 2014 18:26

7 Votes to BJP and BJP allies in Malkajgiri Secunderabad cast from my folks


Raja Ram ji Vanakkam

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Mort Walker » 30 Apr 2014 19:16

Let's see now some best case estimates for the NDA in 89 districts...

TN 10/17
Bihar 6/7
Gujarat 24/26
J&K 0/1
Punjab 10/13
UP 10/14
WB 4/9
UTs 1/2

Total: 65/89. Greater than 70%? Maybe, as TN is going better and AAP has divided Congress vote in Punjab. However, I have my doubts about TN voters going for YSR or TRS in assembly and TDP/BJP in LS.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby pankajs » 30 Apr 2014 19:23

Prasanna Viswanathan ‏@prasannavishy 2m

Okay. MM Joshi is winning Kanpur.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Saral » 30 Apr 2014 19:24

Net, Net AAP is turning out to be a positive for BJP (mostly, it is irrelevant). Chances of 300+ brighten. 272+ is a given. :lol: :lol:

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby member_28533 » 30 Apr 2014 19:24

First time poster here from Hyderabad. Dr. PP's assessment of all telangana may not be true, but at least Hyd+ suburbs - BJP-TDP is winning, at least thats the word on the street. TDP reaping dividends due to Modi wave - Malkajgiri will surely go to TDP's Malla Reddy - solely due to NaMo wave.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby munna » 30 Apr 2014 19:29

Iconoclast ‏@IamIconoclast 1h
#Elections2014 The 7th round: BJP 53/89, Akali 7/10, NDA 60/89, Cong 10, TRS 7, TMC 4, Left 4, AAP 1, PDP, MIM and Ind 1 each

Code: Select all

https://twitter.com/IamIconoclast/status/461493900994043904


He is much close to reality. Dr PP is going wrong in estimating the direction of AAP dent in Punjab. There are other polls going on too.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Manish_Sharma » 30 Apr 2014 19:41

A seasoned statesman like NaMo comes out of voting booth, not wearing the "lotus symbol" Image but holding it in his hand, he sees a crowd of mediapersons-camera waiting.

It doesn't cross his mind "talking to them will break the model code"?

It doesn't cross his mind that flashing the Image will break the model code of conduct?

Still he does it. Watching him talking to media this is the first thing that crossed my mind. Me who has just voted 5 times in whole life.

What could be the reason? Even if NaMo was too tired or spaced out after 4 lakh kilometers and 400+ rallies, it mus'have crossed one of BJPites mind. Still he goes ahead and talks to media.

What would happen to media reporters and cameramen for breaking the code of conduct, are they going to get punished too?

Today BJP could have pushed channels to show manish tiwari's humiliation and diggy's kaalaa karnaama whole day, or at least BJP spokesperson interjecting these 2 incidents whole day without stop in every debate. But now its flashing NaMo breaking a rule whole day. :-? TO WHAT PURPOSE? HOW DOES IT BENEFITS BJP?

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Saral » 30 Apr 2014 19:47

I think we need to give credit to PPatil. His method involves identifying "swing" areas and focusing on data gathering there and triangulating based on understanding of history and groups. This technique appears very sound as these are high-information sources. For example, just yesterday there was a lot of Rhona-Dhona re Jaitley. Today based on his report, it seems like an easy win. With his shoe-string ops, he is able to get data and analyze. If his methods succeed as they did in December in Chattisgarh, then it should have an impact in methods of polling in India, going forward. Even if it doesn't the logic of the method appears sound, even if the execution was lacking.

btw, who is IamIconoclast? Just an armchair pundit.
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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Saral » 30 Apr 2014 19:51

Frankly, Diggy's relationship is private stuff unless it can be shown otherwise (had an impact on official duties). I don't think we should go the American route here (of publicizing private affairs). NaMo is an uber-alpha. Rest assured, he won't do such a thing without carefully thinking it through. His statements are generic and he can't take a selfie? Next time, the elections should be done within 3 weeks. 6 weeks is way too long.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Cosmo_R » 30 Apr 2014 19:55

@ Dhananjay ^^^ : " But now its flashing NaMo breaking a rule whole day. :-? TO WHAT PURPOSE? HOW DOES IT BENEFITS BJP?"

Rule 1. There is no such thing as bad publicity.
Rule 2. Media 'outrage', EC action consolidates his voter base even more because they see how the game is stacked against him.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby muraliravi » 30 Apr 2014 19:57

mchilian wrote:First time poster here from Hyderabad. Dr. PP's assessment of all telangana may not be true, but at least Hyd+ suburbs - BJP-TDP is winning, at least thats the word on the street. TDP reaping dividends due to Modi wave - Malkajgiri will surely go to TDP's Malla Reddy - solely due to NaMo wave.


he has clearly stated that in tg, 10 seats are out of reach for nda

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby member_28468 » 30 Apr 2014 19:58

why is kasmir voting % is so low? is it sign of hatred for india? :(

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby kvraghav » 30 Apr 2014 20:01

media has bandwidth to either show modi as a bad person or praise priyanka or gandhi family. So we have to decide which one is better for modi?

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Shanmukh » 30 Apr 2014 20:01

muraliravi wrote:
mchilian wrote:First time poster here from Hyderabad. Dr. PP's assessment of all telangana may not be true, but at least Hyd+ suburbs - BJP-TDP is winning, at least thats the word on the street. TDP reaping dividends due to Modi wave - Malkajgiri will surely go to TDP's Malla Reddy - solely due to NaMo wave.


he has clearly stated that in tg, 10 seats are out of reach for nda


BJP with decent chances in only 2 seats (Secunderabad and Mahabubnagar), and outside chances in Nizamabad, maybe, if we stretch it, Karimnagar. TDP has decent chances in Chevella, Malkajgiri and Khammam. Even Nagarkurnool is unlikely for TDP. Forget the rest. That is about all. None of the others even offer a half decent chance to BJP or TDP, unless NaMo wave decimates all local factors (most unlikely, IMO). If BJP wins 2, and TDP another 2-3, I will be more than happy with the result.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby RajeshA » 30 Apr 2014 20:03

I really really hope Punjab hasn't given AAP a lifeline!

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby munna » 30 Apr 2014 20:05

RajeshA wrote:I really really hope Punjab hasn't given AAP a lifeline!


Sangrur is trending their way. Ludhiana and Gurdaspur are tossups, could go either way. All due to our herrows in Delhi who knew better than us unwashed footsoldiers on ground.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Gus » 30 Apr 2014 20:10

I can imagine this already

BREAKING NEWS - AAP wins one seat in Punjab. Is it sign of revolution. Do people want alternative to BJP and Congress. (More breathless reporting)

Side note - BJP wins 300 and will form govt.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby member_28173 » 30 Apr 2014 20:16

Gus wrote:I can imagine this already

BREAKING NEWS - AAP wins one seat in Punjab. Is it sign of revolution. Do people want alternative to BJP and Congress. (More breathless reporting)

Side note - BJP wins 300 and will form govt.



AND I am already Imaging 3 hour later news.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagwant_Mann Switched to ..... :) It seems this guy from AAP is winning. He is Local Comedian

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby member_28173 » 30 Apr 2014 20:21

BEST PART OF this election Might be :

SP , BSP , JDU , BJD , DMK , AIDMK etc sounds like INDEPENDENTS.

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby SBajwa » 30 Apr 2014 20:32

I told you that Bhagwant Maan will win. He is sort of like Jaspal Bhatti (whose wife Savita Bhatti denied the ticket offered by AAP) and has fought against corruption with his skits, etc. A simpleton Jat!

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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Frederic » 30 Apr 2014 20:34

Just as a matter of curiosity, is Arun Jaitley a Punjabi (or) does he speak fluent Punjabi?


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