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Exit polls are banned to be published for over two years now. This is nothing new. Opinion polls before 48 hrs are always allowed. It will be interesting to see to ban them. I actually support all polls banned except the real poll. Surveys should be treated as terror activity and should be booked using a new POTA. Damn it!!!
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Banning all opinion polls carries the risk of making elections opaquej, aam junta will be in dark about trends. This is not fair.Muppalla wrote:Exit polls are banned to be published for over two years now. This is nothing new. Opinion polls before 48 hrs are always allowed. It will be interesting to see to ban them. I actually support all polls banned except the real poll. Surveys should be treated as terror activity and should be booked using a new POTA. Damn it!!!
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The Opinion polls are doing more damage than help. 9 out of 10 are unfair polls with giving advantage to an underdog by pumping up. This is only helping freakshows like Chiranjeevi, Khejriwal etc. You can pump money to get these done. In good olden days of news print there used to be a good analysis at assembly segment level of each constituency with good demographic info along with how each panchayat is leaning. How many cheap-liquor bottles are sold etc. That is more helpful if you give in an understandable method even biased. This number game is just a TV reality show and only help the mafia even though the mafia is opposing this time around.prahaar wrote:Banning all opinion polls carries the risk of making elections opaquej, aam junta will be in dark about trends. This is not fair.Muppalla wrote:Exit polls are banned to be published for over two years now. This is nothing new. Opinion polls before 48 hrs are always allowed. It will be interesting to see to ban them. I actually support all polls banned except the real poll. Surveys should be treated as terror activity and should be booked using a new POTA. Damn it!!!
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I said surveys should be banned. The survey by foreign agencies is always a double edged sword. They use this even for "Kashmir want to be part of India" to put a stupid/weak admin to do a Abdualla Wahid type stuff.
This is a not-needed side show for elections and for India. Unnecessary of AP-Nielsen to go to Guntupalli or Ramjigaon to do a survey. Let the locals live their life.
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Mupallaji, no disagreements with all the points that you have raised. Banning the opinion polls raises the specter of a precedent. My fear is the following: any legitimate method of transparency will be targeted the modus operandi, including social media, freedom of expression. Unfortunately I do not have any better solution other than ensuring fair and honest conduct being enforced, fake polls being penalized with 420isi. With all the bans being proposed we will soon reach a break point.
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Banning opinion polls is bad for democracy and should be nipped in the bud.
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This one time rulings are forgotten once (one time) every time and can be called exceptional as required. No one calls out or EC doesn't interfere when SoniaG blabbers about maut kaa saudaagar which is quite low level and not classy for at least pretenders.Lilo wrote:Though the CongIs brought about above banning of exit polls with malicious intent, I feel it is a good thing for desh in the long term. Only thing is... BJP must make sure this is not a one off exception by EC to benefit CongIs or otherwise and must insist on this norm before every election.Karan M wrote:Yeh lo... every attempt possible..
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With the paid media of ours - the lesser its ability to influence election time narratives .. The better chance there is for a free and fair election occurring (in the real spirit of the phrase) with minimum influence of black money, foreign govts, and other internal monied subverters
In democracy when rules are changed as per ruling party and especially against interests of contenders except B teams of con race then people shouldn't keep the thinking cap aside.
Wonder where NGO industries are that used to drag NaMo/BJP government up til the supreme Court are. Their silence is miraculous only.
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Hooda flexes muscle with mega rally, slams Oppn
If numbers in a rally are an indicator of a leader's popularity, the Congress's Shakti rally in Gohana in Sonepat district of Haryana on Sunday proved that criticism and anti-government campaigns by opposition parties have failed to dent Chief Minister Bhupinder Singh Hooda's popularity. The rally broke all records in crowd participation in the state, the party claimed after the rally.
The Congress leadership in the state except for two detractors of Hooda — Kumari Selja and Rao Inderjit Singh — also showed a united face at the massive rally in projecting Hooda as leader of the party and people of Haryana.
The venue started getting packed by noon. Before Hooda landed in a chopper, the number of people, according to claims by the party, crossed 14 lakh. The Congress had been building momentum for the rally for the past few weeks. Hooda, displaying wit and humour, struck an instant chord with people.
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14 lacs looks like a YSR rally
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Here is a secular educated M, no different from frothing in the mouth Mullah.
UPA to spend more on scholarships for minorities
Zoya Hassan, a professor of Political Science in Jawaharlal Nehru University in an recent article said: “The Muslim vote bank thesis has gained a fresh lease of life due to the Narendra Modi phenomenon. In the 2014 polls, Muslims will put out all stops to block Modi from reaching 7 Race Course Road (the PM’s residence)”.
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But we keep deluding ourselves by saying that Modi wave will breach congress fortress in haryana. INLD or No INLD, HJC or no HJC, whatever alliance BJP can make is going to make no difference in Haryana. They have tried all these alliances in the past. Hooda has delivered some form of governance in haryana and people there are going to vote congress.Muppalla wrote:14 lacs looks like a YSR rally
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Not necessary. See the Haryana assembly election results. They got a hung assembly but later got folk bought over. Hooda is breachable but needs real politics and not the so called Sushma style politics.muraliravi wrote:But we keep deluding ourselves by saying that Modi wave will breach congress fortress in haryana. INLD or No INLD, HJC or no HJC, whatever alliance BJP can make is going to make no difference in Haryana. They have tried all these alliances in the past. Hooda has delivered some form of governance in haryana and people there are going to vote congress.Muppalla wrote:14 lacs looks like a YSR rally
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He has delivered no governance. Haryana story is simple, the land there is worth in Gold (due to NCR region), everyone has benefited, more so some districts in Haryana, The 3Gs and Hooda family. This black money (in unimaginable billions of dollars, I feel foolish even writing them), this is what fuels (along with real estate money from Mumbai, Hyderabad and Bangalore) cong empire, what billions it will spend in this election.
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Not really, only Rohtak and Sonipat seats are safe for Congress, those are the region where Hooda has done real work. Rest of Haryana is neglected by him and general public is against him in other districts. 8 out of 10 seats are up for grab. Yes from Rohtak and Sonipat it is very hard to dislodge Hooda for long time.muraliravi wrote:But we keep deluding ourselves by saying that Modi wave will breach congress fortress in haryana. INLD or No INLD, HJC or no HJC, whatever alliance BJP can make is going to make no difference in Haryana. They have tried all these alliances in the past. Hooda has delivered some form of governance in haryana and people there are going to vote congress.Muppalla wrote:14 lacs looks like a YSR rally
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What about Jat politics? I believe the NCR region Jats are firmly with INC and they have taken it as a prestige to win even DU elections. The NSUI leaders have direct audience with Sonia and Rahul too. Hooda did spend hugely in DU elections as well.atamjeetsingh wrote:Not really, only Rohtak and Sonipat seats are safe for Congress, those are the region where Hooda has done real work. Rest of Haryana is neglected by him and general public is against him in other districts. 8 out of 10 seats are up for grab. Yes from Rohtak and Sonipat it is very hard to dislodge Hooda for long time.
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AAP faces another row over its in-house survey
FAKE KJULIWAL and YOGENDRA have done a great job of LIES. Can BJP lure back some of the youth who have been cheated by FORD GANDHI?
FAKE KJULIWAL and YOGENDRA have done a great job of LIES. Can BJP lure back some of the youth who have been cheated by FORD GANDHI?
A day after Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) faced a controversy over its leader Arvind Kejriwal meeting a certain cleric from Bareilly, the political entrants on Wednesday faced yet another controversy over its in-house survey.
Twitter was abuzz with charges about how AAP is a Congress front because it chose a company, which has a Congressman as one of the two directors. In the third phase of the survey, AAP had given itself a 28% vote share and Kejriwal as popular preference for the post of chief minister.
A link leading to an article “Proof that Aam Aadmi Party is a front of Congress, survey is false’ on a web-based newswire site claimed that one of the two partners of Cicero Associates & Consultants is an office bearer of Delhi Pradesh Congress Committee (DPCC). The DPCC website on Wednesday showed Madhur’s photo and his Badarpur address.
Incidentally, a few days ago while answering questions about various surveys doing rounds ahead of the Delhi elections, Kejriwal had literally trashed a survey done for channel India TV because the person who had done the survey was associated with RSS.
Yogender Yadav, psephologist and AAP’s national executive member, who was in-charge of the AAP survey conducted in three phases since February, “Sunit was associated with Congress party earlier (but) I do not know of any of his involvement with Congress as on today.”
However, when his attention was drawn to Kejriwal’s comment on a television survey by a person associated with RSS, Yadav said, “In this case, Cicero’s ‘Article of Association’ – a legal document – clearly indicates that surveys are done by Dhananjai Joshi and not by Sunit Madhur.”
Sunit Madhur could not be reached, but Joshi washed his hands away from any of AAP’s claims. “He (Sunit) is a professional political consultant and also a member of International Association of Political Consultants. He is not active in DPCC even though his name figures in the committee formed seven years ago.”
“I am in-charge of all surveys. Ours is a neutral organisation and we work for whosoever commissions our surveys,” he added.
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Jats of only Rohtak and Sonipat are with Hooda not with Congress. Devilal was the last leader to mobilize Jat votes and Chautala is still reaping benfit of that. Jats in other districts dont consider Hooda as an asli(real) Jat, they way he has become pet of Sonia.Muppalla wrote:What about Jat politics? I believe the NCR region Jats are firmly with INC and they have taken it as a prestige to win even DU elections. The NSUI leaders have direct audience with Sonia and Rahul too. Hooda did spend hugely in DU elections as well.atamjeetsingh wrote:Not really, only Rohtak and Sonipat seats are safe for Congress, those are the region where Hooda has done real work. Rest of Haryana is neglected by him and general public is against him in other districts. 8 out of 10 seats are up for grab. Yes from Rohtak and Sonipat it is very hard to dislodge Hooda for long time.
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And someone says Yogender Yadav is not a paid and die hard congressi is &*)*^. This is despite the show of difference between him and congress (that was to buy credibility for gullible 'young voter' of AAP).
Its simple, while the corruption movement was really a brainchild of you know who, many of its member like prashant Bhushan, Swami Agnivesh and Fordriwal were Cong Trojans. They are trying everything to prop their illegitimacy child.
Its simple, while the corruption movement was really a brainchild of you know who, many of its member like prashant Bhushan, Swami Agnivesh and Fordriwal were Cong Trojans. They are trying everything to prop their illegitimacy child.
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Well for these Jats it seems their brethren in UP can be massacred.Muppalla wrote:What about Jat politics? I believe the NCR region Jats are firmly with INC and they have taken it as a prestige to win even DU elections. The NSUI leaders have direct audience with Sonia and Rahul too. Hooda did spend hugely in DU elections as well.atamjeetsingh wrote:Not really, only Rohtak and Sonipat seats are safe for Congress, those are the region where Hooda has done real work. Rest of Haryana is neglected by him and general public is against him in other districts. 8 out of 10 seats are up for grab. Yes from Rohtak and Sonipat it is very hard to dislodge Hooda for long time.
What is the Harayana CM's take, can be publically state categorically like MSM that the Jats are the criminals in Muzzafanagar.
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Notice how all the AAP sympathizers on BRF have disappeared. Not one will defend their beloved NACxalite. They shoot and scoot just like their leader. One after another...flirting with Islamic extremists, bushans comments on Kashmir, Aruna Roy and other NAC members advising Kujliwal, Congress conducting there surveys etc. Whoever still supports these people must be smoking some pretty potent stuff.
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Tikait is currently the jat's of UP leader
notice how within few hours he and his cowjins were released
while bhajapa netas rearrested under different charges when the court threw out the original charges
notice how within few hours he and his cowjins were released
while bhajapa netas rearrested under different charges when the court threw out the original charges
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AAP is a Benami Team of Congis . The vote katua strategy is well known and this is at the higher level of sophistication
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67% polling in first phase of State Assembly Elections in Chhattisgarh! In Chhattisgarh CM Dr. Raman Singh's constituency Rajnandgaon voting was 79%. In Naxal affected areas, polling was as high as 70%, despite the violence.
Second phase is on Nov 19, 2013. Counting is on December 8, 2013.
Second phase is on Nov 19, 2013. Counting is on December 8, 2013.
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http://www.rediff.com/news/report/assem ... 131111.htmRajeshA wrote:67% polling in first phase of State Assembly Elections in Chhattisgarh! In Chhattisgarh CM Dr. Raman Singh's constituency Rajnandgaon voting was 79%.
Second phase is on Nov 19, 2013. Counting is on December 8, 2013.
70% pollling until 1500 according to rediff.
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Today the polling in Chhattisgarh was only for 18 assembly seats. On November 19, polling is going to be for the rest 72 seats. So let's await the main dish.
All other state elections are on a single day. MPs and Mizoram elections are next after Chhattisgarh, on Nov 25.
All other state elections are on a single day. MPs and Mizoram elections are next after Chhattisgarh, on Nov 25.
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digvijay singh has managed to get a ticket for his son from family fief of ragogarh.
none of these typical politicians are interested to see their kids do any other line of work - just like bollywood.
none of these typical politicians are interested to see their kids do any other line of work - just like bollywood.
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UPA to spend more on scholarships for minorities
The UPA government will be giving a final push for minority appeasement before the 2014 general elections with the Cabinet on Thursday approving a proposal to spend additional Rs. 100 crore for scholarships to minority children.
This would be complimented with a new campaign to reach out to the minority community and tell them about the difference the UPA government policies have made in their lives.
Minority, especially Muslims, is considered a key vote-bank in the next general elections as they constitute about 13.4% of the population as per 2001 census. Although the latest religion wise population data has not been released by, most political pundits believe that Muslims would opt for tactical voting to keep out BJP’s Prime Minister candidate Narendra Modi.
Zoya Hassan, a professor of Political Science in Jawaharlal Nehru University in an recent article said: “The Muslim vote bank thesis has gained a fresh lease of life due to the Narendra Modi phenomenon. In the 2014 polls, Muslims will put out all stops to block Modi from reaching 7 Race Course Road (the PM’s residence)”.
The government believes that Muslims can play an important role in return of UPA next summer. But feels it has failed to deliver the message that UPA’s record on social inclusion for minorities has been good.
The government has sought services of planning commission member Sayeeda Hamid, a known Modi critic, and advisor to Prime Minister Sam Pitroda for better projection of UPA’s minority agenda.
On Monday, Hameed, Pitroda with minority affairs minister K Rahman Khan will launch a national portal on Maulana Azad, a foundation on whose name got Rs. 160 crore on Thursday for giving scholarships to minorities in the remaining four months of the current fiscal.
The government in the budget had allocated Rs. 50 crore to the Maulana Azad Education Foundation for providing scholarships. Last Thursday it revised its decision and increased the allocation to Rs. 160 crore for 2013-14.
The Cabinet also revised the 12th five year plan corpus for the foundation --- established to promote education among minorities --- from earlier Rs. 750 crore to Rs. 1,250 crore. The corpus of the foundation was Rs. 700 crore in the 11th five year plan. The foundation was established in 1989 as a voluntary, non-political, non-profit making society.
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any soft exit polls from Twitter based on the first phase elections in Chattisgargh?
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^^ Got this from twitter http://5forty3.wordpress.com
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I don't think there would be any ground that would hold 14 lakh or even 7 lakh. Namo's hunkaar rally where 7 lakh were being told looks like can hold 2 to 3 lakh at most.Muppalla wrote:14 lacs looks like a YSR rally
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Published on Nov 12, 2013
JVM-P chief's confidant resigns, to support Modi: Times of India
JVM-P chief's confidant resigns, to support Modi: Times of India
Baleswar Kumar said he joined BJP with hundreds of his supporters who too resigned from the JVM(P) and joined BJP today as they felt that BJP is the National Party and will,be strengthened further under the leadership of narendra Modi.
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^^^^
If on December 10th BJP makes 4-0 we will see more of such news.
If on December 10th BJP makes 4-0 we will see more of such news.
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Despite AAP’s tall talk, Kejriwal on sticky wicket against Sheila
If it were true, the easiest of all 70 Assembly seats should be the one Arvind Kejriwal, his party’s obvious chief ministerial candidate, is contesting for his own election to Delhi Vidhan Sabha — from Gole Market constituency. He has by choice pitted himself against Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit. The BJP has entered the fray by nominating Vijendra Gupta, a weighty former Delhi unit party chief who steadily rose in the party ranks after first getting elected to the Delhi University Students Union. The contest in Gole Market should thus be the most interesting to understand the prospects of the AAP, unless Kejriwal springs a surprise and files his nomination from some other constituency or from more than one constituency. While various opinion polls offer somewhat contradictory pictures, ranging from Kejriwal’s own prediction of 47 seats to 18 seats for the AAP as predicted by the latest C-Voter survey and a whopping 19-25 seats in the CNN-IBN/CSDS count to a low of 8 seats by the India Today-ORG opinion polls, no one has, however, reflected on the personal fate of Kejriwal and other prominent AAP leaders. While Sheila Dikshit may not be in a position to form a government for a historic fourth term, she almost certainly is winning her seat from Gole Market constituency. This means that both Vijendra Gupta and Arvind Kejirwal face real prospects of losing from there. Vijendra’s entry has made the battle highly interesting. Vijendra too has a strong reputation of taking on Sheila’s government, both as former party president and as former Standing Committee Chairman of the Delhi Municipal Corporation (MCD). It was by a smart strategy that the BJP made a surprise announcement last week to make him a candidate from Gole Market after a meeting. The decision to this effect was taken after some brainstorming by four top BJP leaders, Rajnath Singh, Arun Jaitley, Sushma Swaraj and Nitin Gadkari. In the last Assembly elections, BJP candidate Vijay Jolly had lost from here but had not fared too badly. The BJP hopes Vijendra does better.
The BJP’s Prime Ministerial candidate Narendra Modi, whose first rally in Delhi was a huge success, has so far agreed to spare one more day for campaigning in Delhi but Delhi unit leaders believe that they will make him agree to give more time for Delhi so that he could influence some additional votes in the last leg of campaigning.
Ironically, Kejriwal’s singular anti-corruption agenda could prove to be his undoing here. An official who lives in Gole Market area but does not want to identified said, “Why should government employees vote for him when he has painted them with a black brush
AAP’s volunteers are reaching out but how far individual candidates are registering is still not clear. The BJP and the Congress have now announced their candidates. It’s a known fact that apart from top leader’s name and weight, it is individual candidate’s merits and accessibility in the respective constituencies that matter more in Assembly elections. AAP has a slight handicap there.
The BJP’s belated move of announcing Dr Harshvardhan’s name as chief ministerial candidate too has robbed some of AAP’s sheen. More so, Vijay Goel’s quiet acceptance of the party leadership’s decision, even if that is meant for public posturing, has made the AAP script far more complicated than it appeared to be about a fortnight or a month ago. It should be to the credit of the AAP that its upward swing vis-a-vis Vijay Goel forced the BJP to name Dr Harshvadhan, a practising doctor with a clean image, as their chief ministerial candidate. But by doing so the BJP may have somewhat succeeded in halting AAP’s onward climb. AAP has no doubt has gained good traction among a section of the electorate and as a newcomer on the scene it does not have any negative baggage attached to it, but whether that will translate into actual votes is a big question. There are various instances when those talking nice things about the AAP are not sure of the party’s victory in their own constituency but think it could win in other constituencies. That may not prove to be very healthy for the party on the polling day.
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Best news of the dayRajeshA wrote:Published on Nov 12, 2013
JVM-P chief's confidant resigns, to support Modi: Times of India
Baleswar Kumar said he joined BJP with hundreds of his supporters who too resigned from the JVM(P) and joined BJP today as they felt that BJP is the National Party and will,be strengthened further under the leadership of narendra Modi.
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Three days of Modi's Delhi campaign is planned. Per all unconfirmed Jholawala type assessments, Delhi is a simple majority state for BJP. They are looking for a final bump.
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We are a bunch of CT producers when Anna started the movement. The orchestration of Orange revolution is now slowly coming out.Sushupti wrote:
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RajeshA wrote:Published on Nov 12, 2013
JVM-P chief's confidant resigns, to support Modi: Times of India
Baleswar Kumar said he joined BJP with hundreds of his supporters who too resigned from the JVM(P) and joined BJP today as they felt that BJP is the National Party and will,be strengthened further under the leadership of narendra Modi.
Don't worry sir.muraliravi wrote: Best news of the day
JVM, MNS, INLD, and finally TDP will all be part of NDA. A 4.0 sweep will have a lot of pull towards BJP.
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^^ TOo much suspense Sir!
But one thing is true. BJP has a gameplan even in Delhi. I think they will ultimately prevail ins spite of massive conspiracy by PAIDMEDIA,CONMAFIA and several international agencies.
But one thing is true. BJP has a gameplan even in Delhi. I think they will ultimately prevail ins spite of massive conspiracy by PAIDMEDIA,CONMAFIA and several international agencies.
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the voting patterns followed more or less last time, the onree difference congress supporters decided not to cast their votesMuppalla wrote:any soft exit polls from Twitter based on the first phase elections in Chattisgargh?
which is for dagdar janab.
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RUmblings of MNS + SS/BJP strategic tie-up/match-fixing in today's HT. SS will leave Nashik for MNS, while MNS will allow SS to walk over them in the Mumbai S-Central and N-E constituencies.