Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Ashok Sarraff · Post by **Ashok Sarraff** » 02 Apr 2014 23:14

That's exactly what I told my kids yesterday: expect integration/strong alliance of Sri Lanka, Nepal, and Bhutan and a security umbrella to Up-Ganasthan (Afghanistan) in the next 10 years with Modi at helm.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 02 Apr 2014 23:16

we had this discussion on twitter today regarding assimilation of SL in future. have been thinking about it ever since.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 02 Apr 2014 23:18

Don't get ahead of yourselves, gents. This thing needs to be won first and Kangressis banished into the political vanvas for more than 14 years.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 02 Apr 2014 23:20

Mort Walker wrote:Don't get ahead of yourselves, gents. This thing needs to be won first and Kangressis banished into the political vanvas for more than 14 years.

The goal should be to have a Lal Bahadur Shahstri type Congress and Namo type BJP as the 2 primary parties of India. All regional parties should be wound up by changing this first past the post system to a run of election at constituency level.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 02 Apr 2014 23:24

^^^That can be done, but it may require a constitutional amendment that can only be thought about if the NDA captures 2/3 majority in the LS or around 360 seats.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 02 Apr 2014 23:35

http://aajtak.intoday.in/story/narendra ... 59819.html
All Delhi seats may go to Modi wave

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 02 Apr 2014 23:39

IndraD wrote:http://aajtak.intoday.in/story/narendra ... 59819.html
All Delhi seats may go to Modi wave

While it is good, if it is true. Please remember that cicero is a rogue agency that was contracted by AAP before delhi elections to inflate their numbers. So let is not get carried away by their numbers.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 02 Apr 2014 23:40

Mort Walker wrote:^^^That can be done, but it may require a constitutional amendment that can only be thought about if the NDA captures 2/3 majority in the LS or around 360 seats.

If it needs 2/3 majority, i dont see that happening anytime soon.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 02 Apr 2014 23:42

If all goes well in the next 1.5 months then maybe in 2019.

Sanjay · Post by **Sanjay** » 02 Apr 2014 23:49

170 at the lower end, 185 at the middle and the higher should be past 200 shouldn't it ?

One thing seems a bit clearer so far is that the BJP hasn't lost any significant momentum post ticket allocation.

member_28397 · Post by **member_28397** » 02 Apr 2014 23:53

BJP - 198
NDA (SS+TDP+SAD+LJP) - 229

J&K - 1 UP - 41 Rj - 20 Kar - 14 Assam - 3
Him - 3 Bh - 21 Mp - 23 AP - 9 Rest of NE - 3
Pun - 7 Jhar - 8 Maha - 28 TN - 3
UK - 5 Chatis - 8 Goa - 2 Ker - 0 UT - 2
Del - 4 Bengal - 1 Gj - 20
Har- 3 Oris - 0

Abhijit · Post by **Abhijit** » 02 Apr 2014 23:54

Why run-off? How do people feel about a % based representation? That allows specific viewpoints to be represented and makes it more broad-based. Plus it avoids double expenses on elections.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 02 Apr 2014 23:58

Well, the 185 rallies are going on, so expect congressies to throw up road blocks by harassing air and surface transport. The main thing now is to watch out for mis steps in any state. IMVHO, getting 200 should be easy, the key is to get over 300 with allies to form a stable government.

Sometimes we can get ahead of ourselves here and become too euphoric, I'm trying to be a realist, but even then Modi fever has got me rockin n' rollin.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 03 Apr 2014 00:24

muraliravi wrote:
Mort Walker wrote:^^^That can be done, but it may require a constitutional amendment that can only be thought about if the NDA captures 2/3 majority in the LS or around 360 seats.
If it needs 2/3 majority, i dont see that happening anytime soon.

I expect

India to be part of UNSC P5 by mid-2015
Sanskrit to be India's sole official language by end-2015, deemed for introduction over next 15 yrs (Constitutional Amendment)
There to be a #TsuNaMo in Nepal during the tenure of the current Constitutional Assembly there, end 2015
Constituency-wise Run-off Elections Amendment by end-2015

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 03 Apr 2014 00:25

Abhijit wrote:Why run-off? How do people feel about a % based representation? That allows specific viewpoints to be represented and makes it more broad-based. Plus it avoids double expenses on elections.

What India needs to move out of is religion/liguistic/caste based politics. We need issue based development politics. With % based representation, we will back to square 1. If cost is an issue with run off, we can have instant run off.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 Apr 2014 00:26

Modi wave sweeps Delhi, AAP on downgrade slide: Opinion poll - Video program
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/video/nare ... ml[quote]A new opinion poll done by research agency Cicero for the India Today Group shows that the BJP could bag between 5-7 seats in the forthcoming Lok Sabha elections in the capital on May 16.[/quote]Except for Muslims all sections of Delhi society BJP polls at 1st place.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 03 Apr 2014 03:28

I thought some time back we had written off MH for BJP/NDA. Looks like Congress is projected to lose big time even in MH. Is MH in BJP pocket yet? Or is it Pawar or other beneficiaries that get the anti-Congress benefits? The general vibe from MH seems to be +ve for BJP.

What happened?

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 03 Apr 2014 03:35

Supratik wrote:@nagesh

What is the possibility that the Bdeshi vote is moving to the INC to stop BJP coz a BJP Govt at center and state will cook their goose?

I don't think Modi or BJP government will cook anybody's goose in the short run. Bangladesh is a reality, just as China and Pakistan are. Pakistan can at least be broken into a few states. Bangladesh cannot be done so easily, more over it is surrounded by India on all sides. They have no where to go/push but India. If India starts getting better, then there is more incentive for the poor to migrate out of BD into India. Borders, fences ityadi look nice on paper. Those things will not work and they cannot be cooped like chickens. The best India can hope for is Islamic reforms in BD and less trouble in NE. That region has to become more Indic, nothing else will work.

What one should expect from Modi/BJP is not mindless appeasement but strict rules to become Indic and join "United Nations of India".

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 03 Apr 2014 04:16

^^^Wrong. A United States of India.

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 03 Apr 2014 05:27

Nagma alleges that she is being in minority areas, but its the opposition who is doing it. Her security has been beefed up to 3 guards, but she wants more.

TOI Video

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 03 Apr 2014 06:24

An EVM that 'votes' only for BJP stuns poll staff in Assam

The returning officer said, "These EVMs were here for long. Usually, EVMs are kept in the custody of the deputy commissioner and during elections they are taken to strong rooms."

Congress lodged a complaint with the Election Commission of India on Wednesday and demanded thorough inspection of all EVMs in just not Jorhat, but the entire state. Pradesh Congress Committee general secretary Ranjan Bora, who lodged the complaint with EC, said, "The mock poll was done at random and the EVM for Teok assembly constituency took everyone by surprise. When the hand symbol button was pressed for Congress, the vote was found to be recorded in favour of BJP."

He said the incident has fuelled suspicion in their minds that EVMs may have been tampered with to favour a particular political party.

Interestingly, after Congress got an overwhelming mandate in the 2011 assembly polls, Asom Gana Parishad had lodged a complaint against Congress accusing it of tinkering with EVMs. The Congress leadership had rejected this charge and pointed out that EVM results could not be manipulated.

"EVM tampering could be possible in the Jorhat case," a senior Congress leader said.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 03 Apr 2014 06:38

Is this psy ops by PAIDMEDIA or our brothers in UP that dumb and moronic? Dalits seem to have better brains.

BJP fears a setback with Modi focus

“This individual-centric campaign, rather than talking of the party’s ideology and policies, is hurting us. It is becoming a weakness at a time when other parties are getting aggressive,” said a party leader from Bihar.

Sources say Modi has struck a chord among voters but the party now fears the Modi phenomenon might not get it the kind of votes it expects from its non-traditional voters among OBCs and Dalits.

“Modiji cannot possibly be in UP and Bihar all the time. In these two states, our main opponents are regional leaders, who only need to focus on their one state. Then, these regional parties are not just about individuals, but stand for interests of particular caste groups, which is a message easier to send across to voters than our message of Modi’s iconic leadership,” said a party source.

Both, UP and Bihar party units and candidates, want more Modi rallies in their areas in the coming days. However, the damage might be difficult to repair, considering the party effectively has only one star campaigner.

In Bihar, the BJP’s revised estimate is that it would, in alliance with Ram Vilas Paswan’s Lok Janshakti Party, struggle to get 20-odd seats, out of 40. Until a fortnight back, the BJP top leadership was confident of reaching between 25 to 30 seats.

Similarly, UP is proving to be equally difficult. The party has revised its estimate of UP from the high of 40 to 50 seats (out of 80), to 25 to 30-seats. “We now think the BSP and BJP would be neck and neck in UP,” said a source, adding that Samajwadi Party had also gained momentum in the last couple of weeks.

Over the past year, the triumvirate of party president Rajnath Singh, OBC leader Kalyan Singh and UP in-charge Amit Shah stitched caste alliances across the state. They offered to the electorate, an election campaign based on the issue of development, with its subtext of religious polarisation and caste alliances.

But local conditions are upsetting the BJP's calculations in UP. There is resentment among party workers, with its leadership “importing winnable candidates” from other parties like Brij Bhushan Sharan Singh (Kaiserganj), Jagdambika Pal (Domariyaganj), S P Singh Baghel (Firozabad) and Shyam Charan Gupta from Allahabad being some of the examples.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 03 Apr 2014 07:00

^^^ typical MSM crap. One thing is clear, there is no more water to flow. 99% of hindu voters (all castes) have decided whom to vote for. Muslim vote may be decided final moments depending upon who can stop BJP. Modi campaign is just to enthuse karyakartas and the voters to reach the booth.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 Apr 2014 09:33

^^^
Someone is surely wrong. All except Sickulars are tilting towards Modi. The same is also reflected in the latest trends in Delhi unless all polling agencies are doing a bad job.
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Interestingly, our ground team from West-UP reports that there is an even bigger support among Dalits (including Jatavs) than Jats for Modi!
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Gupta ji (field officer) "Never, never in a decade have we come across Dalits so enthusiastic for anybody other than Behenji in UP!
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All bets are off, forget all the predictions/projections we or anybody has made in the past. its a logic defying election; am myself stunned

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 Apr 2014 09:43

Snoopgate takes a sensational twist: Gujarat government says woman was put on surveillance list to protect her from Pradeep Sharma
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome/in ... [quote]The Snoopgate controversy took a sensational twist on poll eve, with the Gujarat government telling the Supreme Court that the female architect was put under surveillance at the request of her father to ensure her safety "due to certain personality traits" of suspended IAS officer Pradeep Sharma.

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Tapped phone conversations gathered via the government's routine intelligence exercise in 2009 revealed Sharma's illicit relationships with several married women, including p0rnographic and/or obscene conversations with them.

Those involved include his subordinate officers and the wives of his relatives and friends, according to a 19-page affidavit filed by senior official in the Law department of Gujarat government S S Pandya.

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Along with the affidavit, the government also submitted before a bench of justices Ranjana Prakash Desai and M B Lokur a sealed cover which it claimed contained "some of such specimen conversations" of Sharma along with the name and identity of the women."

On why a sealed cover, Pandya said: "The contents of these conversations are too obscene and p0rnographic in nature to be made part of the affidavit. The state government is also conscious and genuinely concerned with the fact that the identities of women involved in the said telephonic conversations of the applicant petitioner needs to be protected and their anonymity requires to be ensured."

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The affidavit said analysis of calls showed that Sharma was also involved in large-scale suspicious transactions by/at the behest of the applicant to USA which are being probed as potential hawala transactions running into crores of rupees, amassed benami properties and had disproportionate assets.

The government claimed the snoopgate was devised by Sharma to "pressurize the state agencies not to take any steps based upon the content of the conversations".

"On perusal of some specimen conversations of the petitioner (Sharma) and his personality trait reflected there from would enable this honourable court to perceive as to why a senior citizen father of an unmarried girl requested the political head of the state with whom he has personal relationship for decades to intervene and as to why the state administration who was aware about this aspect of the applicant's personality traits thought it advisable necessary and prudent to take appropriate safety precautions," said the affidavit.

The government said it never wanted to bring these facts into the public domain or make it part of any court proceedings, but was forced to by a situation created by Sharma who "unleashed a systematic malicious propaganda engineered to malign the state administration and political leadership".

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The affidavit said the woman, her husband and her father appeared before the Gujarat State Women Commission on December 1, 2013, and said the surveillance and protection was indeed at their request and did not make any complaint of intrusion into privacy.

"This left no room for doubt that the entire propoganda surreptitiously engineered at a purposefully chosen time was merely a dishonest and undemocratic malicious campaign", it said. [/quote]

Santosh · Post by **Santosh** » 03 Apr 2014 10:02

nachiket wrote:They could have counted on KA once, not anymore.

I have heard this a few times with no reason reason. What exactly has changed in KA? BSY and Sriramulu are still in BJP.
Also, what is the news from TN? What is the coverage of Modi/national politics in TN? Seeing the huge tsunamo in rest of India is bound to sway votes towards NDA.

VikramS · Post by **VikramS** » 03 Apr 2014 10:03

Mort Walker wrote:^^^Wrong. A United States of India.

http://magellanclubforkids.com/2013/01/ ... s/gadar-9/

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 03 Apr 2014 10:15

^^Nah. Nepal and Tibet are not in India... not to mention Maldives, Diego Garcia...

member_28468 · Post by **member_28468** » 03 Apr 2014 10:20

http://www.theunrealtimes.com/2014/04/0 ... : :rotfl:look at this some fun time

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 Apr 2014 11:48

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MoS Textiles K Sambasiva Rao who resigned from Union cabinet likely to join BJP: Sources to TIMES NOW #Mandate2014
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Congress candidate from Gautam Buddh Nagar rejoins BJP http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/cong ... 52637.html …

Ramesh Chand Tomar, who was contesting on a Congress ticket from Gautam Buddh Nagar constituency, has now rejoined the BJP.

M Joshi · Post by **M Joshi** » 03 Apr 2014 12:52

Could be a possible after effect of the interview of aam junta on CNN IBN by Ghose?

BhairavP · Post by **BhairavP** » 03 Apr 2014 13:08

News coming in that TDP has joined the NDA on Twitter. True?

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 03 Apr 2014 13:25

Heard that yesterday 50-50 seat sharing Assembly and LS polls.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 03 Apr 2014 13:28

Within 24 hours after Sonia Gandhi met Muslim delegation led by Jama Masjid Imam Syed Ahmed Bukhari, dissenting voices are coming out from within the Bukhari family itself.

Yahya Bukhari, younger brother of Syed Ahmed Bukhari called Congress the most communal party and said that he disagrees with his brother’s decision to support Congress.

Yahya Bukhari was quoted as saying to a leading daily, “Mai iss faisle ki sakht mukhalfat karta hun. Bhai ka faisla hai, bhai hun, pur mai iss faisle ko galat tahrata hun. Yeh sarasar galat hai aur mai iski har tarah se mukhalfat karta hun.”

Playing the Congress’s most trusted card of communalism, party chief Sonia Gandhi made special appeal to Muslims to vote in a way to prevent split of so called secular votes.

Speaking in a meeting with Muslim delegation led by Jama Masjid Imam Syed Ahmed Bukhari, she made an appeal to the minorities to not to divide secular vote bank.

Congress fighting for secularism: Sonia in Haryana

“One of the main reasons I entered politics was to safeguard and promote secularism,” Bukhari quoted Gandhi as saying, adding she appealed for a united move to stop the so-called secular vote from splitting.

In an attempt to woo Muslim community, she said only Congress-led UPA Government could implement new schemes and programmes for minorities.

The meeting, which took place at Gandhi’s 10 Janpath residence on Tuesday, lasted for 45 minutes, during which Shahi Imam Syed Ahmed Bukhari apprised her of various issues pertaining to the community.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 03 Apr 2014 14:02

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/rural-job-scheme-a-game-changer-now-too/article5856097.ece

Many still believe that the UPA regime’s flagship rural job scheme, the ‘Mahatma Gandhi National Rural Employment Guarantee Scheme (MGNREGS)’, silently did wonders for the Congress in 2009 Lok Sabha polls. Will it be a game-changer in the 2014 polls also? There is no straight ‘Yes’ or a ‘No’ for an answer, as this correspondent discovered during a tour of some of the districts in Tamil Nadu where MGNREGS has increased incomes of rural households.

Lakshmi of Surapattu village in Villupuram district, Punithaeswari of Bouthiramanickam village in Tiruvarur district and Magudeeswari of Muthunaickenpatti near Oddanchatram in Dindigul— from three different rural pockets of the State— have hardly anything in common.

But perhaps one thing that bonds these women, in the 25- 40 years age-group, vis-à-vis sarkaari intervention in poverty alleviation, is that they all proudly claim that they “participate meaningfully in the implementation of MGNREGS”.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 03 Apr 2014 14:21

Was forced to leave Congress party as they are playing communal politics: Former Congress leader Ramesh Tomar

They called Modi a regional leader, Modi proved he is a National one and they regional
They called Modi a divisive leader, Modi is cheered by crowds calling the INC divisive
They called Modi a riot tainted leader, Modi proved the riot tainted are the Congress
They called Modi a mass murderer, Modi showed them who said "When a Big tree falls"
They called Modi a communal, now INC leaders leave the party calling it communal.

Amazing how life turns around!

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 03 Apr 2014 14:27

Hari Seldon wrote:^^Nah. Nepal and Tibet are not in India... not to mention Maldives, Diego Garcia...

Afghanistan was ruled by Hindu kings for a 1000 years. Belongs to us.

member_28352 · Post by **member_28352** » 03 Apr 2014 14:31

Wrt to that map there are a few anomalies. One Nepal,Tibet and Afghanistan should be part of India. Second parts of Uttar Kuru, nowadays more famous as Xinjiang. Allmost all of Xinjiang south of the Tian Shan mountains is in the Bharatiya sphere of influence. Places are Kashgar (Uttar Kashi) etc were Hindu till the Islamic hordes decimated the place in the 10th century. I can't find the reference but manollasa had an article on this a few years ago. Similarly places like Madagascar should also be part of the Bharatiya sphere of influence. Ofcourse one can also dream that entire South East Asia be part of Bharat Samrajya.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 03 Apr 2014 14:34

The above can only part of a Dharmic federation. Firstly people will have to consolidate under Dharma in India to even start thinking about assimilating others and the regions they presently reside in. It's good that 'Secularism' is being exposed by Modi. No leader could have done this ground work in a span of just 5 months! The parameters of sensible dialect in elections is being changed slowly, but there is a long way to go. Another generation of leaders seeped in Dharma and Development will have to emerge from Modi's leadership.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 03 Apr 2014 14:40

er before (re)establishing the flame of dharma over uttar kashi, let us think about Pushpapura (called peshawar now), seat of Kanishka and the site of a massive stupa that was as usual desecreted and destroyed by the islamic hordes.

it ought to be found and rebuilt in homage to the maitreya buddha...the one who is awaited.

ruins like these in occupied lands await the coming of the second foundation
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