Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 14 Dec 2013 09:05

Agree, hope they tie up with INC in ND and get their just desserts (idiotic claims exposed; Kejriwals over the top self righteousness is just too much to bear).

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 14 Dec 2013 09:11

top news in ABP today.

ganguly got offer from bjp, he will take a decision soon.
http://www.anandabazar.com/14desh1.html

good move IMHO.

archan · Post by **archan** » 14 Dec 2013 09:13

These days the other Ganguly is in the news. Thankfully they had a picture with that article.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 14 Dec 2013 09:16

Rahul M wrote:top news in ABP today.

ganguly got offer from bjp, he will take a decision soon.
http://www.anandabazar.com/14desh1.html

good move IMHO.

How many seats are competitive for BJP in WB? 5?

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 14 Dec 2013 09:21

bara bazar, dum dum, purulia, darjling (if the same agreement is repeated)

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 14 Dec 2013 09:24

fanne wrote:bara bazar, dum dum, purulia, darjling (if the same agreement is repeated)

I would have thought that the BJP has a chance in the northern duars regions? Koch Behar, Jalpaiguri, Alipur Duars, etc?

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 14 Dec 2013 09:28

Rahul M wrote:top news in ABP today.

ganguly got offer from bjp, he will take a decision soon.
http://www.anandabazar.com/14desh1.html

good move IMHO.

Good strategy! Now is the time to expand the base of the party when there is a wave for it across the country. The whole east-south is waiting for the lotus to make inroads if it can get its strategy right. Inducting celebrities is a tried and tested formula to enter new markets.

Rajni can also be roped in to make inroads into TN. Rajni might be willing if NaMo himself meets him. Rajni seems to have political ambitions but too shy or risk-averse.

Advantage of lotus is that lotus is the only party with Hindhuthva. All others are 'secular'. So, those who are unhappy with 'secularism' will gravitate towards Hindhuthva. I imagine that there is a sizable such audience in East and South of bhaarath also just like North and West.

Another advantage is that lotus is the only anti-kongi national option. So, it should be quite easy for the lotus to enter new regions if it can have some local face with strong Hindhuthva ideology(focusing on local issue) and national projection(as the only anti-kongi force).

member_28233 · Post by **member_28233** » 14 Dec 2013 09:52

The AAP is a diversion, a feint, informally supported by the Congress, and more openly by its allies, the MSM. The effort is to divert attention, and public discourse, away from Congress and its multifarious misdeeds and onto a fight between the BJP and AAP.

Remember, the BJP's strategic aims are:

* Mission 272+
* Congress Mukt Bharat

To achieve them it is imperative that the top BJP leadership focus its energies on: UP; Bihar; getting Yeddy back in the fold; getting an alliance with TDP in AP; putting a plan in place to get 30-35 seats in MH; and most of all ensuring good leadership and fighting fit organisations in all important/targeted states.

Engagement of AAP should be left to the Dilli BJP leaders, as well as some second stringers. The AAP is a Marxist organisation, with antediluvian economic ideas, and bar Dilli and a few cities it will have limited appeal. After all, how does it plan to control inflation? By arresting hoarders? Or by fiat? Because its statist policies, including plenty of subsidies, freebies and increased government spending are bound to raise inflation. Similarly, how does it plan to help create jobs for the youth of the country? By creating more state enterprises? Or does it expect them to all become jholawala like its leaders?

NaMo and other top leaders should ignore AAP and concentrate their fire on the Congress, keep the focus there. Additionally, NaMo should continue expounding on his vision for Bharat --go very negative on Congress and the regional Congress wannabes, and also provide a positive vision.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 14 Dec 2013 09:57

for bjp in WB :

seats with decent chance : howrah, krishnanagar, alipurduar, darjeeling

seats with outside chance : jalpaiguri, bardhaman-durgapur

bara bazar is too small an area in kolkata-uttar to have any major effect. dum dum happened due to tapan sikdar's personal understanding with cpim leader subhas chakraborti. once the later died sikdar's vote plummeted. problem with darjeeling is that the political landscape has completely changed in recent days.
interestingly, bjp was a (distant) 3rd in almost every LS seat in 2009 polling 5-10% of the vote.

south bengal esp. rural bengal is extremely hard to crack for any party atm, TMC is just too well entrenched.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 14 Dec 2013 10:01

Rahul M wrote:for bjp in WB :

seats with decent chance : howrah, krishnanagar, alipurduar, darjeeling

seats with outside chance : jalpaiguri, bardhaman-durgapur

bara bazar is too small an area in kolkata-uttar to have any major effect. dum dum happened due to tapan sikdar's personal understanding with cpim leader subhas chakraborti. once the later died sikdar's vote plummeted.
interestingly, bjp was a (distant) 3rd in almost every LS seat in 2009 polling 5-10% of the vote.

south bengal esp. rural bengal is extremely hard to crack for any party atm, TMC is just too well entrenched.

What about Asansol, Rahul-ji? Can the BJP not capitalise on the urban vote?

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 14 Dec 2013 10:05

Lone JDU MLA Shoab Iqbal in Delhi also sends letter of support to LG. Meanwhile , Kejariwal asks LG to give 10 days time to decide. He has written to Congis and BJP asking if they support AAP agendas.They should reveal nature of their support and define unconditional or contructive support.

HT reporting.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 14 Dec 2013 10:05

i'm with krishnan.. there is a large section of TN crowd that has high positive opinion about modi.. especially after his repeated associations with cho-rajni loops.

the biggest factor that can get 10+ in TN is rajnikanth. but that only if he considers to join poltiics.. his principles might need to change.. he should be willing to buy a chai on the streets with his regular conductor uniform... very difficult proposition, but never know.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Dec 2013 10:10

chaanakya wrote:Lone JDU MLA Shoab Iqbal in Delhi also sends letter of support to LG. Meanwhile , Kejariwal asks LG to give 10 days time to decide. He has written to Congis and BJP asking if they support AAP agendas.They should reveal nature of their support and define unconditional or contructive support.

HT reporting.

slimy beggar wants everything in writing like a true babu onlee.

He will never give anything in writing, though.

How does he expect the others to "support" his agenda??

If such support is actually there, then where is the need for AAP ??

Santosh · Post by **Santosh** » 14 Dec 2013 10:18

Courtesy @yoginisd from teetaar

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 14 Dec 2013 10:22

The superstar need not join in, just asking people to vote for BJP is more than enough. But modi should get good candidates. or else he is gonna spoil his and rajani's name.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 14 Dec 2013 10:25

what is this guy gonna do for 10 days ??? either its yes or no

Live! Delhi govt formation: Kejriwal seeks 10 days time to decide

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 14 Dec 2013 10:26

nageshks wrote:
Rahul M wrote:for bjp in WB :

seats with decent chance : howrah, krishnanagar, alipurduar, darjeeling

seats with outside chance : jalpaiguri, bardhaman-durgapur

bara bazar is too small an area in kolkata-uttar to have any major effect. dum dum happened due to tapan sikdar's personal understanding with cpim leader subhas chakraborti. once the later died sikdar's vote plummeted.
interestingly, bjp was a (distant) 3rd in almost every LS seat in 2009 polling 5-10% of the vote.

south bengal esp. rural bengal is extremely hard to crack for any party atm, TMC is just too well entrenched.
What about Asansol, Rahul-ji? Can the BJP not capitalise on the urban vote?

cancelled out by large number of industrial workers who have shifted loyalty from CITU to INTTUC.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 14 Dec 2013 10:51

Rahul M wrote:top news in ABP today.

ganguly got offer from bjp, he will take a decision soon.
http://www.anandabazar.com/14desh1.html

good move IMHO.

Hope it happens. I always liked Ganguly. (sacrilege - actually "=" to and even more than SRT - because of his never give up, aggressive attitude; for many of us he was the first "face" of "new" India in cricket).

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 14 Dec 2013 10:56

Letter of AK to SG of INC

http://www.aamaadmiparty.org/sites/defa ... Gandhi.pdf

Letter of AK to RS of BJP

http://www.aamaadmiparty.org/sites/defa ... 0Singh.pdf

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 14 Dec 2013 11:24

the man does not want to work.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 14 Dec 2013 11:31

Folks - I have been looking at mapping the results of Rajasthan Assembly elections to the Lok Sabha seats. From what I am seeing, the BJP is going to win 24 seats, and the Congress 1 (Karauli Dholpur). If the phenomenon repeats in the Lok Sabha, with a slight pro-Modi shift, the Congress could be looking at a whitewash in Lok Sabha, i.e., 25-0. This had not happened even during the emergency (the Congress won Nagaur). Only V P Singh led Janata Dal, in alliance with BJP, was able to crush the Congress totally, and blank it in the state. We could be seeing a repeat of the phenomenon now.

Usually, the strongest Congress seats are Nagaur, Barmer, Udaipur, and Banswara. The Congress has been utterly wiped out in its southern Rajasthan tribal strongholds. If this is what the NaMo wave does, then I say the BJP is going great. It is not just the defeat, it is the scale of the defeat that should worry the Congress. The Congress is roughly 1 lakh or more behind the BJP in almost all seats. There is no close contest even. Even in Karauli-Dholpur, the Congress has won mainly because of the NPP (Kirori Lal Meena's party) cutting into the BJP votes.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 14 Dec 2013 11:42

This excercise done by BJP in Delhi shows 5/7 in favour of BJP. Hopefully in 3-4 months "Governor's rule vs. Kejriwal drama" would have forced Dilliwala to re-assess his own situation. Record voting and the loudest people supported by the shrillest MSM, running away from their own agenda.

In 3-4 months an average dilliwala would be looking for strong leadership and the 5/7 could with some difficulty actually turn into 7/7. In about 2 months tempers would have cooled down enough in dilli and would have risen enough in the whole country. That would be the time for NaMo to speak directly with the people of Dilli and talk some sense to them.

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 14 Dec 2013 12:02

chaanakya wrote:Letter of AK to RS of BJP

http://www.aamaadmiparty.org/sites/defa ... 0Singh.pdf

This only reinforces what a douchebag khujliwal is, other than holier than thou lecture he has nothing else to say. Though this is a good chance for BJP to humiliate them publicly pointing out maoists and other rented morons in their (P)AAP. BJP should fully use this douchebag given opportunity to utaro there pants in public and keep playing this ping pong game with (P)AAP so that people of Delhi see what utter dumbos they have been in voting these cretins.

Sourav Ganguly must not take the offer by BJP, will unnecessarily divide his fan base along political lines.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Dec 2013 12:26

ravi_g wrote: the man does not want to work.

He is trying to setup the thing so that failure to form the gov. or failure of gov. midway can be blamed on BJP preferably or at worst on BJP+CON.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 14 Dec 2013 13:02

Sagar G wrote:Sourav Ganguly must not take the offer by BJP, will unnecessarily divide his fan base along political lines.

If I may ask, how is his fan base being used as an engine for the betterment of the nation or West Bengal? It is a resource that is dormant, just lying around. Same with Rajnikanth in Tamil Nadu.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 14 Dec 2013 13:19

Ganguly and Rajanikanth would be good addition to BJP if they decide to join and fight election.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 14 Dec 2013 13:23

rajni wont

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 14 Dec 2013 13:26

New Parliament to be constituted before June 1: Chief election commissioner

CEC hints election to Lokasabha to be held in Mid March 2014 and in five to seven phases. Strangely , he chooses to hint it in Washington.

WASHINGTON: The next general elections would be held in multiple phases next year and be completed in time to constitute the 16th Lok Sabha by June 1, chief election commissioner VS Sampath has said.

"National elections may be held in five, six or seven phases," Sampath said at an event at the Brookings Institute, an American think-tank, hosted in association with the US India Business Council and Confederation of Indian Industry.

He said the Election Commission (EC) has already started preparations for the 2014 elections in which 780 million people are likely to cast their vote at over 800,000 polling booths, using over 1.18 million electronic voting machines.

Without giving any details of the poll schedule, Sampath hinted that the election process could begin in mid-March and said the 16th general elections will elect 543 members.

"Indian elections never missed the deadline, even in most trying circumstances," he said yesterday. "Preparation is on."

"Tenure of the present Lok Sabha comes to an end on May 31. So the next House has to be before June 1. It is our responsibility to conduct the election before that date," he said, adding that the number of phases has yet to be decided.

He said the notification for the election would be issued three weeks before the first date of the poll and announcement of the election comes another three weeks in advance.

"So six weeks before the actual first day of the poll, the Election Commission would make the announcement of the election," he said, adding that the model code of conduct would come into force on the day the announcement is made.

"Summary Revision of electoral roll 2014 is in progress and India will have a new electoral roll published within a month," he said, adding the EC will continue its efforts to enroll any missing people and weed out wrong ones till close to the polls.

"Our close review of election preparedness in each part of the country will begin soon. Will cover law and order, logistics, condition of polling stations, resources, men and material and equipment," he said.

This would mean, he said, mobilization of millions of temporary staff, supervisors and police forces and their planned deployment; putting in place sound mechanism to deal with possible threats like muscle power, money power and power of incumbency; creation of specific enforcement modules and imparting of time-bound training and scientific and comprehensive voter education and awareness measures to make the largest possible citizen participation.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 14 Dec 2013 13:37

chaanakya wrote:Letter of AK to SG of INC

http://www.aamaadmiparty.org/sites/defa ... Gandhi.pdf

Letter of AK to RS of BJP

http://www.aamaadmiparty.org/sites/defa ... 0Singh.pdf

Wow - talk about arrogant. He is basically trying to insult both parties so much that they refuse to step up. This guy is all about tricks and low grade politics and I hope he gets cut down to size, ego wise, sooner than later.

JohnTitor · Post by **JohnTitor** » 14 Dec 2013 14:10

Katare wrote:
Shonu wrote:^^ That question can be asked of everyone. Going by your mode of evaluation, noone has a right to an opinion unless they do something. Sorry to burst your bubble but he has his opinion and it is just as right as AK or AH or anyone else. I suggest you tone down your holier-than-thou attitude.
How about if i have an opinion about you? Should i state it in the way it pleases me or should i follow indic, dharmic and vadik values of our great civilization? Decorum must be maintained in discussions or they are nothing but vulgar shouting matches.

People are dishing out uncharitable labels and names for all but purest of pure of bhagwa brigade. I support right wing nationalistic politics too and been doing that here at BRF for over a decade without needing to belittle others.
If you read this (and modi) thread one gets a feeling that except for RSS everyone else in India is paid for, idiotic traitor. This is not correct, there are good and bad ppl on either side of the divide.

You are free to have an opinion about me or anyone else here. Having an opinion does not equate to being right. There is a difference between fact and opinion. Often people interchange the two. The first is undeniable and irrefutable. The second is just.. a thought.

But you can't deny the fact that once you are on the public stage, things are different. There is a vast difference between you or I and AK/AH/MMS/PC/NaMo etc etc. We are private citizens looking in from the outside. They are not. We can judge them as their actions have consequences beyond them. That gives us (the people) to have an opinion of them.

As far as the rest of your argument goes, I think who supports whom is an individualistic thing and neither I nor you have a right to stop them from that.

AK's decision to not support anyone to form the govt and then issue a list of 18 ludicrous demands just goes to show that he is neither interested in development nor governance. He is running away from responsibility as its much easier to sit in opposition and whine about everything with no alternative idea to offer. Since INC has offered unconditional support, he should do what he campaigned on instead of being a spoilsport. I can already see that people's views on him have changed since his election. Just watch, there will be a re-election and he will be wiped out.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 14 Dec 2013 14:50

if BJP can get Ganguly, that'd be great. I'll take ONE Ganguly any day over a 100 SRT's. the former is a leader.

Ganguly, IMVHO, single-handedly set the course for Indian Cricket to rise from ashes of post-90's controversies.

time for Dada to start his 2nd innings.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 14 Dec 2013 15:05

Smacking AAP

https://twitter.com/yogeshpsingh

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Dec 2013 15:25

Delhi govt formation: Kejriwal sets terms for Cong, BJP

NEW DELHI: Giving a new twist to government formation in Delhi, Aam Aadmi Party on Saturday set some new conditions for Congress and BJP before it can decide on forming a government, a move seen as attempts to fob off criticism that it was running away from taking responsibility.

Seems folks within their base has started having doubts so this new position instead of outright rejection earlier. Need to keep educating the public on social media and expose the personalities and policies of AAP for the fraud they are.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Dec 2013 15:37

'Savage' fund cut by Chidambaram's babus have Jairam seething

As the clock ticks towards the general elections in a few months time, a major crack appears to be opening up in the government. The mandarins of finance ministry - presumably with the sanction of finance minister P Chidambaram - have proposed huge cuts amounting to over Rs 20,000 crore in spending on popular flagship schemes like the employment guarantee scheme, the rural housing scheme, the village roads scheme and the livelihoods mission.

This has angered the rural development minister Jairam Ramesh who has called such cuts "completely unreasonable" and "savage" and "demoralizing" in a protest letter to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

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But at what cost? Ramesh writing to the prime minister hints darkly at the biggest danger - the political cost of cutting back on welfare schemes. He says such cuts would "send the wrong political signals". In plainspeak this means that the UPA would lose votes if it goes back on committed spending on various flagship schemes.

According to details narrated at length in Ramesh's letter, the job-guarantee scheme (MGNREGS) and the rural housing scheme (IAY) stand to lose Rs 2,000 crore each. These are two of the most popular schemes of the UPA.

Far from accepting the finance ministry's diktats, Ramesh presses for even more allocation. For the housing scheme, Ramesh argues that to meet the Planning Commission approved target of 30 lakh dwelling units for the current year, budget allocation is actually short and an increase of Rs 2,800 crore is needed. In addition, to build 3 lakh houses in cyclone Phailin, Odisha would need Rs 1,687 crore.

For the rural livelihoods scheme (NRLM), Ramesh says that the "whopping cut of 35%" is unjustified and such a move would "directly hit an estimated three crore poor women".

For the rural roads scheme (PMGSY), budget allocation of Rs 21,700 crore is sought to be cut drastically to just Rs 9,700 crore, with a permission to states to use accumulated interest worth Rs 3,050 crore. Ramesh argues that roadworks are going on in some of the most backward states and cutting funds now would "unfairly penalize poorer and more backward states".

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Dec 2013 15:52

Ok .. first reactions to the latest AAP game is in ..

Why is Arvind Kejriwal creating drama when he can form the govt.: BJP

Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) leader Vijendra Gupta on Saturday said Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) chief Arvind Kejriwal is creating a drama and asked him to form the government in Delhi.

“He is creating a drama on this, when he has everything to form the government. The AAP has emerged as the second largest party in the Delhi polls. He has the unconditional support of nine MLA’s. So, he has a chance to form the government in Delhi,” he said. “He is trying to create a scene here. Just by talking about the problem, you won’t find a solution for it. He is in a position to provide a solution to a problem, and yet, he is not doing this. Something is fishy here,” he added.

Another BJP leader Vijay Kumar Malhotra said, “This shows his (Kejriwal’s) arrogance. The language he uses is inappropriate and unsuitable. A corrupt person like him can only accuse us of being corrupt. He further said, “If he does not want to form the government, he should say so. Why is he imposing such abrupt conditions and using bad language?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Dec 2013 15:54

Aam Aadmi Party should fulfil the expectations of Delhi's people: Congress

The Congress on Saturday asked the Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) to "fulfil the expectations" of Delhi's people by forming a government and not try to "escape" the responsibility.

"They are a new political party and since their idealism is not known to the people, we presume that they are secular. So it is nothing wrong for us to support them from outside," Congress spokesperson Bhakta Charan Das told Times Now news channel here.

"We are not going to give any conditional support. We are not going to enter into an agreement or anything," he said adding the Congress was trying to discharge its constitutional responsibility as an established political party by offering support.

"AAP should come forward to fulfil the expectations of the people of Delhi and should not try to escape from this responsibility," said Das.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 14 Dec 2013 15:56

Is AK suicidal? I mean politically. His chances of a national stage leader is clearly dented with this shirking of responsibility. What's the long plan here?

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 14 Dec 2013 16:00

^^Poor kejri... tried to be too clever by half... is being shown up for the charlatan he is. IMVVHO, of course.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Dec 2013 16:04

Pressure builds up on AAP to form Government and deliver promises

New Delhi: Reacting to Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) chief Arvind Kejriwal's conditions for taking the support offered by the Congress, party leader Ghulam Nabi Azad on Saturday said the AAP should deliver the promises made to the people by forming the government

"He is getting support from everywhere, so why he asking for ten more days? Now he should form the government and should fulfill the promises he had made to the people," Ghulam Nabi Azad said.

"Lokpal Bill is promised by the UPA government, as it has been initiated by the Congress. There is no need to take credit for it," he added.

Delhi Congress president JP Agarwal said, "He is imposing conditions but we are not placing any conditions. We have offered unconditional support so that there is no additional burden of re-elections and whatever promises he made to the people will be delivered."

"Did we say that we are giving support because we accept their conditions," he added.

"He himself is least bothered about his future course. He does not know where he has to go. This is not a drama. When you are gearing up to run the government, then you should have some weight in the words you use," he said

Another Congress leader Jagdambika Pal said the AAP is insulting the democratic structure of the country by not forming the government in Delhi and asked, "We have offered an unconditional support to them, still they does not form the government, then why did they contest the elections?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Dec 2013 16:14

AAP takes on Modi, to contest all 26 LS seats in Gujarat

Riding high on its incredible success in the Delhi Assembly polls, Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) has now decided to take the battle to Bharatiya Janata Party prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi's home turf.

The party has decided to contest from all the 26 Lok Sabha constituencies in the state in the upcoming General Elections.

Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/aam- ... 31255.html