Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

a_bharat · Post by **a_bharat** » 08 Dec 2013 16:47

RJ Final Correction: BJP 162; Cong 21

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 08 Dec 2013 16:48

Atri wrote:
Dilbu wrote:Baba is speaking 100% bullsh!t. No concrete answers to any questions.
that is his default program.. bullshitpro 72.0

BTW, why this hurry of declaring victory in CG and DL? Am I missing something? please tell this poor abdul who has no TV (by choice ) about something that I am missing here..

According to http://www.eenadu.net/, BJP is 4 leading + 45 wins in CG.
3 + 30 in Delhi.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 08 Dec 2013 16:49

NDTV is still showing 44-44.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 08 Dec 2013 16:50

Chhattisgarh election result live: BJP wins 46 seats, set to form govt (So CHG firmly in the Kitty)

Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/chhat ... ef_article

a_bharat · Post by **a_bharat** » 08 Dec 2013 16:50

RG hinted at bringing in non politicians like AAP did; perhaps someone like Nandan Nilekani will be projected as PM candidate.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 08 Dec 2013 16:51

SR ‏@suresh97 1m

#chattisgarh #bjp win 46 won plus 3 leading

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 08 Dec 2013 16:54

a_bharat wrote:RG hinted at bringing in non politicians like AAP did; perhaps someone like Nandan Nilekani will be projected as PM candidate.

Another remote controlled MMS in the making.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 08 Dec 2013 16:55

pankajs wrote:Chhattisgarh election result live: BJP wins 46 seats, set to form govt

Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/chhat ... ef_article

BJP has lost massively in Chhattisgarh despite Modi campaigning there. In 2008 BJP had won 50 seats, this time max. 49. Blow to Modi! Proves Modi is a regional leader. He should go back to Gujarat!

anmol · Post by **anmol** » 08 Dec 2013 16:55

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 08 Dec 2013 16:55

a_bharat wrote:RG hinted at bringing in non politicians like AAP did; perhaps someone like Nandan Nilekani will be projected as PM candidate.

wont work. People don't want another slave

a_bharat · Post by **a_bharat** » 08 Dec 2013 16:56

CG: BJP 2 Leading + 47 Won; CONG 2 Leading + 37 Won; BSP 0 + 1; Others: 0 + 1
DL: BJP 2 Leading + 31 Won; AAP 4 Leading + 23 Won; Cong 1 + 7; Others 1 + 1

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 08 Dec 2013 16:59

any chance of 2 seats in Dilli changing hands?

BJP should not even try because if they try to form, all the moron Kujliwal will do is BJP buying my MLAs chant

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 08 Dec 2013 17:00

This is ridiculous. NDTV is now showing CON 44 BJP 43 in CHG.

rohitv · Post by **rohitv** » 08 Dec 2013 17:01

Congratulations to BJP karyakartas both offline and online and its leadership. 4-0 it is

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 08 Dec 2013 17:01

Dilbu wrote:NDTV is still showing 44-44.

they are not updating properly , even delhi results are not getting updated

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 08 Dec 2013 17:02

NDTV will be the last to update any bjp +ve for sure.

a_bharat · Post by **a_bharat** » 08 Dec 2013 17:03

CG: BJP 1 Leading + 48 Won; CONG 2 Leading + 37 Won; BSP 0 + 1; Others: 0 + 1
DL: BJP 2 Leading + 31 Won; AAP 2 Leading + 25 Won; Cong 1 + 7; Others 0 + 2

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 08 Dec 2013 17:03

If Modi was not there CON master strategy of killing their own Hindu leaders in CGH using Naxals would have resulted in their. You have to give credit to dhimminess of Indians that murdering of their own people is also brushed under the carpet as long as it is minorities who organize such dastardly acts.

rohitv · Post by **rohitv** » 08 Dec 2013 17:03

CG looked like such a disappointment early in the day. And that Arnab Goswami was rubbing it in as well on Times Now.
Thank God BJP won there. I was tired of all english channels debating Modi Wave in delhi and CG>

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 08 Dec 2013 17:04

Dilbu wrote:This is ridiculous. NDTV is now showing CON 44 BJP 43 in CHG.

Its called mental masturbation. They are showing 2-4 stale data. According to ETV-2, BJP had won 48 seats and leading in 1.

Most of English channels are anchor driven, they have very few field reporters and even if they knew the actual results, they want to undermine BJP as much as possible.

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 08 Dec 2013 17:05

CGarh
Bjp 1 + 48
Cong 2 + 37
BSP 0 + 1
Others 0 + 1

rohitv · Post by **rohitv** » 08 Dec 2013 17:09

Lol Rahul G said that Arvind Kejriwal is his model.
One more good news for BJP is that Rahul Gandhi is still not doubting himself and is talking about transforming leadership and cracking the whip and what not

manju · Post by **manju** » 08 Dec 2013 17:09

Have some left over fire crackers from Deepavali here in North Interior Karnataka. i am going to fire some!!

manju · Post by **manju** » 08 Dec 2013 17:10

rohitv wrote:Lol Rahul G said that Arvind Kejriwal is his model.
One more good news for BJP is that Rahul Gandhi is still not doubting himself and is talking about transforming leadership and cracking the whip and what not

congresswallas must be sh!ting rocks hearing this

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 08 Dec 2013 17:12

Anyone watching Arnab on TimesNow?

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 08 Dec 2013 17:12

I checked hindi channels this time. Zee news, CNBC Awaaz, India TV, News 24, IBN7 all are showing 44-43. India News, Aaj Tak, ABP News etc are showing slightly better figures for BJP.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 08 Dec 2013 17:12

Its from Eenadu.net. First column indicates leading and second column indicates won/declared.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 08 Dec 2013 17:14

If it is declared then why is it not showing up in ECI website?

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 08 Dec 2013 17:14

Even I can guess where this is going..with both Raul Baba on TV and his online enrega coming in support of sAAP and Kejri.

Now ,below is something just for fun courtesy an enrega Baba bhakt.

rohitv · Post by **rohitv** » 08 Dec 2013 17:16

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 08 Dec 2013 17:16

I think it is time to conduct a massive split in AAP itself. As people are saying, they are only a registered party, not a recognized party, so don't enjoy the protection of Anti-Defection Law.

Let half of the people rebel against Kejriwal for some Anna SIM Card scam, or for him not acting as a responsible elected official in a parliamentary democracy, or his support to anti-national elements within his ranks.

10-12 of his legislators should simply split and form their own outfit. Can be useful for giving BJP outside support.

BJP should lay claim to the forming the government. They may have 35 MLAs (33 BJP, 1 Akali Dal, 1 Ind). It's important that BJP does not take these MLAs in into BJP or give them any posts. Let them be a separate outfit, led by a Kejriwal 2 intent on stopping the corruption within AAP.

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 08 Dec 2013 17:17

IMHO what clown prince said in his presser is lot more profound than one can imagine. It is in fact a veiled warning of things in store for the Congis . A cabinet reshuffle,with a truck loads of sacking is almost certain..Gods ways are queer . I would not be surprised if a couple of choppers carrying congi's disappear in bad weather. or lightening strikes some old guard..

they were surely going to lose . But the complete annihilation must have alarmed them beyond measure. they are desperate.and will do desperate things..

rohitv · Post by **rohitv** » 08 Dec 2013 17:17

Media moronsIf these wins were achvd w/o "Modi effect" then thats actually WORSE news for their party--> Congress.. @timesnow @ndtv @ibnlive

Mediacrooks on Twitter

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 08 Dec 2013 17:18

more highly paid american harvard trained media strategists and transformational change blue ocean "ceo coaches" are needed to change the congress.
breakthough innovation and silo-busting synergy is need of hour.
(goes back to expensive glass of wine)

rvishwak · Post by **rvishwak** » 08 Dec 2013 17:20

As per NDTV ajit jogi is contesting two seats hence CON not safe until they get 45 seats

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 08 Dec 2013 17:21

12 ways the Congress can fight back!

Ullu ke patte suggestions to mafia

So, here is my list of 12 things for the Congress president to do ahead of the Lok Sabha election.

Take charge of the Congress campaign, lead from the front. The first thing to do is for Sonia Gandhi to take charge of the party right away. She is still the Congress president, yes, but over the last few months, as ill-health has dogged her, she has slowly ceded control to her son. Rahul Gandhi's time is yet to come, maybe it will in 2019. (Once a dynast will always be servant) For now, 2014 has to be Sonia's grand finale.

The BJP's Narendra Modi is itching for a presidential election campaign, and rather than running away the Congress should take him head-on. Within the party there is no one but Sonia who can do this.

Hit the campaign trail for 2014 right away. So the Lok Sabha election is months away, but Sonia Gandhi needs to get moving. Physically. Within the week she should draw up a plan to cover ALL the 543 Lok Sabha constituencies before the election.

Democracy is synonymous with mass contact, and the time to play Greta Garbo is over, there is no keeping away from the people who elect you. That is what the original Mrs Gandhi would have done.

Firm up alliances. The BJP bested the Congress in 1998 and 1999 thanks to its alliances, and the Congress showed in 2004 and 2009 that it can play the game better. That was then; today the Congress seems to have few friends left. That the Nationalist Congress Party is today its steadfast ally should tell you something about the state of affairs. If at all the Congress needs friends, it is in 2014. That election cannot be won without allies beside you.

Revive the appeal to the scheduled castes/scheduled tribes and minorities. Rahul Gandhi has spoken so much about his grandmother. Maybe Sonia should ask herself: Why have the Dalits and the minorities, who formed the bulwark of the Congress's support based till Indira Gandhi's time, migrated to other parties? How did the Congress let them down? If anyone can get them to return, it is Sonia Gandhi.

Governance first. Everyone is unanimous that UPA II has ground to a halt, there is policy paralysis. And the reason for this is the disconnect perceived between the party (Sonia Gandhi) and the government. Even if it is only perception, get it corrected by having the government get going in the last few months of its tenure.

Family in government. The last time a Nehru-Gandhi was in the Union Council of Ministers without holding the top job was in Indira Gandhi's time. Since 2004 we have had this spectacle of the Family remaining aloof from the government, even refusing to be part of it, strengthening perception that either it is the PMship or nothing other for them. Jawaharlal Nehru saw to it that his daughter spent time in government; there is no reason why Rahul Gandhi should not join the Union Council as a junior minister and learn the ropes of governance, before criticising its actions.

Name the PM candidate. It is clear that Manmohan Singh will not be the Congress's PM candidate for 2014. But there is no clarity on who it will be either. The time to hide behind the Congress Parliamentary Party decision is long gone; not telling 1.2 billion Indians who will be their PM ahead of the election is an insult to their intelligence.

Zero tolerance for corruption. That the UPA is splattered with allegations of corruption is not entirely a media creation , nor is it the handiwork of the BJP. The common perception is that the Congress has always been soft on corruption, something that Arvind Kejriwal has been able to exploit so successfully. If Sonia Gandhi believes the UPA is not corrupt, then she has to convince the voters through credible action, not words.

No shield for family. Talking of which, you can't give homilies on your government being non-corrupt and also have your state government hound the bureaucrat who redlighted questionable land deals involving your extended family. The reluctance to come clean on Robert Vadra's business transactions will boomerang once the no-holds-barred campaign unfolds next year. Limit the damage, come clean. Make it clear that no one will be shielded.

Reservation for women. The days of over-arching Family charisma and sacrifice carrying the day is long gone. What matters today is the choice of candidates, their electability. Make sure you pick right the right men and women, and take a leaf out of 1984. And, since the Congress president has always advocated the jinxed Women's Reservation Bill, it will be a good thing to walk the talk by nominating one-third women candidates in 2014. You don't need a law to do what you believe is right, do you?

Open up, speak out. You can google to see what the First Family of India's politics thinks of various issues confronting the nation. Barring some zany utterances by Rahul Gandhi, you will find very little. Why do the Gandhis shy away from engaging with the media, being open about themselves, speaking up on burning topics, and instead leave it to family retainers to convey what they think? Do they realise the damage this has done? Contrast this with its arch-rival's media overkill.

Revive economic reforms. If welfare schemes alone could win the election, then Ashok Gehlot won't be making way for Vasundhara Raje in Rajasthan. The point is, the Congress brass seems to believe that batting for the aam-aadmi is antithetical to economic reforms, without realising that without robust economic growth, funding for welfare schemes would be hard to find. By all means swear by the aam-aadmi, but get the stalled reforms engine chugging again!

Would doing the above ensure that the Congress stave off the stiff challenge from Narendra Modi in 2014? That is for the future to reveal; but these will at least show the voter that the Congress still has fight left in it.

Sonia Gandhi can either step up to the plate, or watch the Family legacy unravel right before her eyes. The choice is hers.

So CONGi PAIDMEDIA's advice to Sonia

Get your Family more involved;More caste/communal politics; Sell Vadra to save your rear end and throw in some reforms/governance bone to middle class

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 08 Dec 2013 17:23

rajesh ji, bjp is 31 now, not 33.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 08 Dec 2013 17:24

I second a new Operation Kamal.

bahut sah liya in SaPa, BSaPa, Praja Rajyam, Aam Admi ke saath kangress ka haath and these sundry imbeciles in the MSM with their hired sensibilities.

If the BJP feels it is not politically expedient to cause a split then they can still blackmail these sundries.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 08 Dec 2013 17:25

RajeshA wrote:I think it is time to conduct a massive split in AAP itself. As people are saying, they are only a registered party, not a recognized party, so don't enjoy the protection of Anti-Defection Law.

no, rajesh ji.. if all candidates contested using same symbol, then anti defection law applies..

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 08 Dec 2013 17:26

meantime that other dynast Jyotirajaditya scindia who was supposed to Yuvaraj's appointee (which Dsingh was sidelined to 3rd row and locked out of press conf) has come down to earth with a thud.

Dsingh is probably secretly happy to see this