AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 29 Jul 2013 23:35

My worry is they will provoke riots and killngs to ensure bad blood stays beyond their survival. Otherwise folks may patch up later on and undo their deeds.

Bade · Post by **Bade** » 29 Jul 2013 23:37

That should be avoided at all costs, or hold the current central govt entirely responsible for this if the unfortunate happens.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 29 Jul 2013 23:40

Bade wrote:That should be avoided at all costs, or hold the current central govt entirely responsible for this if the unfortunate happens.

Good suggestion. I guess the victims of 1984 Dehi attacks on Sikhs are still looking for that accountability.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 29 Jul 2013 23:46

they have rushed paramilitary forces.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 29 Jul 2013 23:59

ShyamSP wrote: I have 3 legs in 3 regions in terms of immediate relatives and properties. May be I have to take "Visa" to visit each state.

Regardless of what happens, Hyderabad freezes to be dynamic city. Property values in Hyderabad periphery will fall dramatically so there will be some material loss. Many people now have to suck money out of Hyderabad to invest elsewhere.

I have 3 legs in 3 states too. Families on both sides live in Madras, Hyderabad and Bangalore. Every visit to India, I visit all these cities all speaking different languages to boot, and with different sub-cultures. We have invested money in all cities, love all 3 cities, people and variety. This freezing up of investments and not being a dynamic city are misplaced opinions. It did not stop me from buying properties in Bangalore or Hyderabad because they were not my State of origin. And I am not alone, there are millions who operate in such manner. Connections/strings are broken and created. Circle of life. I have to spend more time in B and H than Madras - the city I grew to love first.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 29 Jul 2013 23:59

some gossip... http://greatandhra.com/viewnews.php?id= ... 15&scat=16

Why are leaders like Telugu Desam Party president N Chandrababu Naidu and Congress MPs Lagadapati Rajagopal, Kavuri Sambasiva Rao and Vundavalli Arun Kumar remaining unperturbed despite rapid developments at the Centre on the Telangana?

According to a speculation doing rounds in the social networking sites, these Seemandhra leaders have been in touch with an “invisible power” which would influence the decision of Congress president and UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi and force her to backtrack on the state bifurcation.

“We are pretty confident that the invisible power would enter the scene at the eleventh hour and stall the Telangana formation. We are in touch with this invisible power,” the speculation quoted a Seemandhra leader as saying.

Now, everybody is curious to know who this invisible power is. Well, sources said it is none other than industrial giant and Reliance Industries supreme Mukesh Ambani, who is the only person who can change the mind of Sonia Gandhi.

While Chandrababu Naidu is understood to have approached Mukesh through his mentor Ramoji Rao, the other Seemandhra leaders have found other channels to prevail upon Mukesh. May be they have offered to extend all help to the Reliance chief in grabbing more gas reserves in Krishna-Godavari basin!

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 30 Jul 2013 00:00

SwamyG wrote: I have 3 legs in 3 states too. Families on both sides live in Madras, Hyderabad and Bangalore. Every visit to India, I visit all these cities all speaking different languages to boot, and with different sub-cultures. We have invested money in all cities, love all 3 cities, people and variety. This freezing up of investments and not being a dynamic city are misplaced opinions.

I protest... i dont think you "love" any of those cities... if you did, you would have called them Chennai, Bagaluru, Bhagyanagaram

you are a settler...

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 30 Jul 2013 00:02

you are wrong.. it would be bhagyanagaramu.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 30 Jul 2013 00:02

more gossip.. http://greatandhra.com/viewnews.php?id= ... 15&scat=16

Why Did Cong Drop R-Telangana Plan?
The Congress high command has dropped the proposal to carve out Rayala Telangana by dividing Andhra Pradesh, according to latest reports coming from New Delhi.

The reports say the Congress high command has decided to grant Telangana state with 10 districts.

The proposal will be put forth for approval before the UPA coordination committee meeting to be held in New Delhi on Tuesday, which would be immediately followed by the Congress Working Committee meeting in the evening.

So, why did the Congress drop the Rayala Telangana plan? Sources said the Congress leadership backtracked on the proposal as it was vehemently opposed by the Telangana Rashtra Samithi, beside other parties like the Telugu Desam Party, the YSR Congress party and the Bharatiya Janata Party.

Particularly, the Congress high command was apprehensive that the Bill on Telangana might not be passed if the BJP opposed the same. And above all, there would be severe resistance within the Rayalaseema. Hence, the party went back on the proposal.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 30 Jul 2013 00:12

I asked my brother if T-state is coming. His answer...

"Yes, if you switch on the TV. No, if you switch-off the TV"

Bade · Post by **Bade** » 30 Jul 2013 00:13

That is what I thought too, when this was flaring up a year or so ago and then it died down.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 30 Jul 2013 00:17

a picture is worth 1000 words...

SwamyG garu thought I was good with color coding

this guy did even better...

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 30 Jul 2013 00:20

why is the red shown as yellow?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Jul 2013 00:28

It will go to BJP eventually is the message!

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 30 Jul 2013 00:29

it is not red or yellow saar.. it is saffron.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Jul 2013 00:58

Business Standard Op-Ed:

http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 156_1.html

Too late for Caution

If the Congress party-led United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government does indeed eventually decide to bifurcate the state of Andhra Pradesh, it could hardly be called a decision taken in haste. The Telangana movement has a history stretching back to the first years after Independence, but this latest crisis has been brewing since December 2009, when the UPA government announced that the "process of forming the state of Telangana will be initiated". When opposition to the move coalesced, the UPA retreated, and asked a committee headed by the venerable Justice Srikrishna to look at the alternatives. The Srikrishna committee duly submitted its report in 2010 - which was not particularly helpful as a guide to the future, since it basically listed all six possible combinations of Hyderabad, Rayalaseema, and coastal Andhra. The committee did, however, point out: "Most of the economic and developmental parameters show that Telangana (excluding Hyderabad city but including Hyderabad suburbs) is either on a par with or a shade lower than coastal Andhra." This does put a bit of a hole in the traditional argument of the Telangana movement that the region is the unfavoured stepchild of administrations in Hyderabad.

The worry, though, is that granting statehood on a case-by-case basis, especially when there is no compelling socio-economic case for bifurcation, will merely incentivise disruptive and irrational protests across the country. Ideally, the government should have looked at a larger canvas, in which several cases for the division of larger states were considered impartially. In any case, of late the argument has begun to rage as to whether smaller states are in any case as helpful as it was earlier thought they would be. The experience of the last large-scale state creation process under the National Democratic Alliance government, which gave birth to Jharkhand, Uttarakhand and Chhattisgarh, has not been uniformly positive. Indeed, Jharkhand has been a bit of a disaster, riddled with corruption and political instability; Chhattisgarh has become the focal point for the Left-wing extremism; and Uttarakhand's lack of ability to implement regulations led to calamitous consequences recently in Kedarnath. This does not augur well for a separate Telangana - especially since the regionalist movement has a long history of association with Left-wing extremism, a tendency that has not completely died out. On the other hand, it is possible that this argument gets things backward, since the sample of new, smaller states should include the rumps of the old ones: after all, Bihar and Madhya Pradesh prospered after they were bifurcated.

In any case, by all accounts, it is too late to warn against the problems of a separate Telangana. Whether or not the Congress party, which needs to win Andhra Pradesh to have a chance of returning to power in 2014, will benefit electorally from the bifurcation is unknown. But the possible consequences of bifurcation will likely be a continuing concern for whoever is in power in New Delhi for the coming years. Caution can no longer be advised, but watchfulness should be. India cannot afford another state, especially one containing a magnet-like city, to suffer Left-wing extremism or endemic political instability.

Also the Great Andhra site has more questions on Why Only Telagana?

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 30 Jul 2013 01:13

greatandhra site is a good gossip site. If Sonia backtracks on T at this moment, we are seeing a historical low of INC in India. It will be hovering around 90 to 100 seats. Mukesh Ambani is currently toying the idea of a nice Gujji PM as he is vexed with videshi.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Jul 2013 02:23

Business Standard. How neutral is this paper?

Telangana Gamble wont fix Congress fortunes in Andhra

Telangana gamble can't fix Congress's dwindling fortunes in Andhra
The UPA government's decision is based on pure political calculations of the Congress
Shantanu Bhattacharya

Has the schedule rally of Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi in the Telangana region next month prompted the Congress to shed its procrastination policy over the controversial issue? There is one school of thought that believes that alarm bells have started ringing for the grand old party, and it is all set to put a full stop on endless speculation and tug-of-war in the party which is vertically split on the vexed issue.

The Congress top brass must have realised that putting the contentious matter on the back burner will not work even as a short-term tactic. Andhra Pradesh powered the United Progressive Alliance’s (UPA) Lok Sabha victory in 2009 and is therefore crucial to its electoral fortunes in 2014. In 2009, the Congress got 33 and in 2004 it bagged 29 seats. With a hung Lok Sabha predicted, it is easy to gauge the importance of each MP from the state. Andhra is so divided on the Telangana issue that a repeat of 2009 is doubtful at present.

Congress president Sonia Gandhi is keen to resolve the matter at least ahead of next year’s Lok Sabha elections and simultaneous Andhra Pradesh assembly polls to improve the party’s prospects. The partition of India’s fifth largest state -- in terms of area as well as population -- Andhra Pradesh appears imminent and Telangana will most likely be India’s 29th state. However, the Congress high command decision rattled Andhra Chief Minister Kiran Kumar Reddy as the leadership question is likely to be revisited as part of the bifurcation package.
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Congress spin doctors are busy in giving shape to topple the Bharatiya Janata Party’s (BJP) applecart and deter the saffron party creating a separate Telangana and gaining a firm foothold in the state if it comes to power at the Centre next year. The saffron party is focusing on the Telangana region and has aggressively taken up the cause of separate statehood.

Also, the Congress chief had been convinced by pro-Telangana leaders that the best way to decimate Telugu Desam Party (TDP) leader N. Chandrababu Naidu and contain the influence of Jaganmohan Reddy was to divide the state. The party faces a tough challenge from the Telangana Rashtra Samiti (TRS) and the TDP in the region. In Seemandhra (Rayalaseema and Coastal Andhra regions), the Congress will be pitted against breakaway leader Reddy’s YSR Congress.

Political pundits say a decision to grant a separate Telangana state will open a Pandora's box, resulting in renewed demands for a separate Gorkhaland in West Bengal, Harit Pradesh in Uttar Pradesh, Bodoland in Assam and Vidarbha in Maharashtra, to name a few. A Telangana state would have been unthinkable during YS Rajasekhara Reddy’s regime but his exit had given the high command an opportunity to exert its authority. While the TRS, the BJP and the Communist Party of India have been unequivocally pro-Telangana, and the Communist Party of India (Marxist) and the Majlis-e-Ittehad-ul Muslimeen have been openly against the bifurcation, the TDP and the YSR Congress have been ambiguous on this issue.

Candidly, the think-tanks within the Congress recognize the fact that it cannot possibly imagine coming anywhere near to regaining power at the Centre, without returning a sizeable number of MPs from the state. As part of its new Andhra strategy for the 2014 elections, the party is ready to take a calculated gamble to grant a separate Telangana alongside implementing popular schemes such as food security and direct benefit transfers.

{Bread and circuses!}

In the fast unravelling theatre of Andhra politics, there is no single solution that would please everyone, but that is no reason to defer a decision on an issue over which a large number of people in the Telangana region have been organising protests and agitations disrupting normal life. The Congress is well aware that a decision to carve out a separate Telangana would alienate many people in Coastal Andhra and other parts of the state, and also that any additional postponement would fuel anger among those in the thick of the statehood campaign. The Congress can ill-afford such repercussions in an election year. The strategy of holding out hope for a separate state without actually conceding it cannot yield political dividends any longer.

There is merit to the argument that the Congress’s decision in favour of Telangana will help sew up an alliance with the TRS, which has been spearheading the movement for a separate state. This could assure the Congress a substantial chunk of the 17 Lok Sabha seats of this region and 117 assembly seats in Andhra. To build pressure on the UPA government over the issue, the TRS had even offered to merge with the Congress if the statehood demand was granted.

Senior state Congress leaders are confused about the details, some doubting whether the new state would be called Telangana or Hyderabad State. The city of Hyderabad may continue to be the capital of both states for the next five years. Party leaders belonging to Coastal Andhra and Rayalaseema are opposed to division of the state. The six anti-Telangana MPs, including Union ministers MM Pallam Raju, KS Rao, Chiranjeevi and D Purandeshwari (all hailing from coastal Andhra) and K Bapiraju and Anantarami Reddy had met Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to push for keeping Andhra Pradesh united. The MPs told the PM that there would be repercussions not only for the state but also for the entire country if the state is divided.

Undoubtedly, what India deserves is a debate and a broad consensus on the criteria for creation of new states. The UPA government may think it only owes Telangana a state. Actually, it owes the nation some answers.

If the INC divides AP due to fear of BJP, then what is to prevent the BJP from claiming credit for that eventually? And wont BJP gain in Telangana eventually?

When was Modi due to visit Hyderabad?

Bade · Post by **Bade** » 30 Jul 2013 02:46

While the TRS, the BJP and the Communist Party of India have been unequivocally pro-Telangana, and the Communist Party of India (Marxist) and the Majlis-e-Ittehad-ul Muslimeen have been openly against the bifurcation, the TDP and the YSR Congress have been ambiguous on this issue.

So each of them are just doing their number crunching for votes and deciding what to support.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 30 Jul 2013 02:51

ramana garu, business standard is owned by Ambanis.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 30 Jul 2013 03:08

RamaY wrote:some gossip... http://greatandhra.com/viewnews.php?id= ... 15&scat=16
Why are leaders like Telugu Desam Party president N Chandrababu Naidu and Congress MPs Lagadapati Rajagopal, Kavuri Sambasiva Rao and Vundavalli Arun Kumar remaining unperturbed despite rapid developments at the Centre on the Telangana?

If CBN speaks, attack dogs from INC, YSRC, and TRS/KCR start attacking him obfuscating what Congress is trying to do.

It is better if he keeps silent until Congress speaks what their position is. Remember for last many years, they were attacking CBN to spell out and write letter to Center. Congress never revealed its position all these years other than providing "leaks" that go either way.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 30 Jul 2013 03:10

These mis-calculations of congress will have an interesting results.

In T INC and TRS will be a very very strange bed fellow. There is a very invisible, stable and decently wealthy (not filthyly like the coastal counterparts) ruling class in Telangana and that does not go with TRS and are no more interested in congress. It is currently spread across BJP and TDP. Once T is formed, TDP's longevity is not going to be there and the only party that will ultimately grow is BJP. I have scepticism that even 2014 is not that far for that group. ( Only caveat is that they declare T tomorrow and we haven general election in October may give the KCR+INC some leaverage)

KKR said it is suicidal for congress and he means it literally.

On the Andhra side, people already started a movement (not against T common man) but lynch any INC guy that is visible. If T is declared every tom-dick-harry will need Z++ security. Whoever wins on non-T side (Jagan, or a new baby congress and TDP) will support only non-UPA disposition. There is no way in the world that Gandhi-family can even fly in a coptor over those bad lands anymore.

This is truely a basmasura moment that they started in December 2009.

My gut feeling is that AP may have some happy faces and some unhappy ones but India will have Diwaali

I only hope to see two new monsters instead on just one so far and the capability is there.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 30 Jul 2013 03:14

ShyamSP wrote: If CBN speaks, attack dogs from INC, YSRC, and TRS/KCR start attacking him obfuscating what Congress is trying to do.

It is better if he keeps silent until Congress speaks what their position is. Remember for last many years, they were attacking CBN to spell out and write letter to Center. Congress never revealed its position all these years other than providing "leaks" that go either way.

It will be really interesting if TDP leaders on non-T side can be silent after tomorrow's expected declaration. CBN was really succesful in keeping both sides quite. The T-TDP leader said that he will be the first CM of T in few months.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 30 Jul 2013 03:14

Protests rock Seemandhra against state division
http://www.andhraheadlines.com/state/pr ... 17795.html
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The protestors including students, activists of political parties, employees and other sections of society laid siege to the houses of central ministers, MPs and state legislators, seeking their resignations for a united Andhra Pradesh.
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Hyderabad, July 29: With the UPA coordination panel and Congress Working Committee (CWC) meeting in Delhi Tuesday to take a final decision on separate statehood to Telangana, coastal Andhra and Rayalaseema regions of Andhra Pradesh were Monday rocked by protests opposing the state's division.

The protestors including students, activists of political parties, employees and other sections of society laid siege to the houses of central ministers, MPs and state legislators, seeking their resignations for a united Andhra Pradesh.

Various groups took out rallies and organized meetings to demand the central government to drop any move to bifurcate the state.

Protestors surrounded the camp office of central minister K. S. Rao in Eluru town of West Godavari district, demanding that he quit to mount pressure on Congress leadership to keep the state united.

A similar protest was held outside the house of another central minister D. Purandeswari in Visakhapatnam.

Students, employees, workers, teachers, lawyers and political activists took out a massive rally in Anantapur and laid siege to the house of Congress MP Ananta Venkatarami Reddy, demanding his resignation.

Most of the Congress leaders were either in Hyderabad or Delhi to discuss among themselves their strategy in the event of the leadership making an announcement for formation of Telangana state.

Congress MP Sai Pratap's house was also surrounded by the protestors in Kadapa.

In Guntur, protestors laid siege to the house of another MP R. Sambasiva Rao. They regretted that Congress leaders from Seemandhra (Rayalaseema and Andhra regions) failed to put pressure on the leadership not to divide the state.

There was mild tension when protestors laid siege to Congress MP L. Rajagopal's house in Vijayawada. Raising slogans against him, they clashed with police.
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ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Jul 2013 03:18

Bade, In late 2010, using the methodolgy of Bruno De Mesquita's (Prof of Political Science, NYU) Predictioneer's Game, (getting access to his computer program on his uty computers), Andhra Pradesh politics was modelled by a small subset of this forum. All the key players (internal, external, politicial parties), their stance, their rigidity and their strengths were all input. The range of solutions was united to separate states with joint capitals so on.

The solution converged to a ten year financial package for Telangana and underdeveloped parts of Rayalaseema and Coastal Andhra after about 12 rounds of calculations.

The key to this was DMK, TMC, NCP being firm about the unity of the AP state to prevent blowback by way of further splits in their states.

The local players were all traders as the simulation played out. One surprising prediction was the convergence of YSRC and MIM interests. The papers now report that MIM wants unified state and YSRC's Telangana members are quitting the party for its stand on unified state! So there is the convergence coming about.

The current soon to be announced plan to split the state and to add unasked areas is unstable and such things could give rise to monsters* that devour the players.

In retrospect the current plan got its start with the neutering of DMK due to telcom scam(Raja and Kanimozhi) and TMC jumping out of the UPA making their protests irrelevant. NCP will also be muzzled as they dont have the numbers to matter.

*Shumb, Nishumb types. Instead on just one entity they will lead to dual ones.

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M, Thanks for the B-S ownership details. Its staff is providing a critique of the moves, which I didnt expect unlike TOI(2Gs are roses) and Chindu(PC interests).

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 30 Jul 2013 03:25

Veera Siva Reddy, who resigned from MLA seat and Congress (so he is free man to say anything), lays out rules for all 25 MPs and Central Ministers. In some other news, he also urges people to attack those that are not for United AP.

MLA Veera Siva Reddy Fire on Seemandhra Leaders
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YupaCDL2x8

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 30 Jul 2013 03:39

SwamyG wrote:I have 3 legs in 3 states too. Families on both sides live in Madras, Hyderabad and Bangalore. Every visit to India, I visit all these cities all speaking different languages to boot, and with different sub-cultures. We have invested money in all cities, love all 3 cities, people and variety. This freezing up of investments and not being a dynamic city are misplaced opinions. It did not stop me from buying properties in Bangalore or Hyderabad because they were not my State of origin. And I am not alone, there are millions who operate in such manner. Connections/strings are broken and created. Circle of life. I have to spend more time in B and H than Madras - the city I grew to love first.

My intention for writing was not for "I'm great Indian gentleman" or "World statesman" like you.

In more for practical terms, Freezing up is in terms of withdrawing money. There are no buyers for Greater Hyderabad periphery and many are looking how to recover. Of course, you can sell dirt cheap but that is not dynamism as wealth gets sucked out from the city

anjan · Post by **anjan** » 30 Jul 2013 03:41

Bade wrote:So each of them are just doing their number crunching for votes and deciding what to support.

If democratic governance is about channeling the people's voice, why is this wrong or cause for surprise? If anything this is the system actually working for once. The alternative is that parties should just come up with policies that have no mooring in the opinion of the people they claim to represent.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Jul 2013 03:51

Just a reminder Sri Krishna Committee suggested:

The issue was later pushed before a committee headed by Justice BN Srikrishna. This panel did not come up with a tangible solution, but instead presented six options.

These included the
creation of a Telangana Regional Council within Andhra,
bifurcation of the state into Telangana with Hyderabad as the capital and Seemandhra with a new capital,
bifurcation of the state into Seemandhra and Telangana after making Hyderabad a Union Territory, bifurcation of the state into Seemandhra and Telangana with enlarged Hyderabad metropolis as a Union Territory,
bifurcation of the state into Rayala Telangana and Coastal Andhra, and
maintenance of status quo.

Maybe INC is throwing 2 districts for free so that there is acceptance of just the 10 District T state?

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 30 Jul 2013 03:54

When was Modi due to visit Hyderabad?

August 11th.

SwamyG garu: don't forget to buy Rs5 ticket and attend NM speech in LB Stadium.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Jul 2013 03:55

HT
Regional Parties hit by the T move by INC

Looks like mythical fears of Jagan and BJP drove the INC to this move.

gpati · Post by **gpati** » 30 Jul 2013 04:44

RamaY wrote: don't forget to buy Rs5 ticket and attend NM speech in LB Stadium.

30,000 tickets have been sold out till last week according to India today Telugu edition.

Bade · Post by **Bade** » 30 Jul 2013 04:59

Ramana, thanks for that explanation. Though I am a still confused why the Majlis (MIM) would want a unified state, if only Hyderabad and surroundings are their stronghold.

bhavani · Post by **bhavani** » 30 Jul 2013 05:13

I think bifurcating telangana might be a big error by INC. The mafia lady is grossly miscalculating. In the recent days TRS and BJP have been hobnobbing quite a bit.
Effects on 2014 Election
1. If Telangana is granted: TRS will claim the victory in telangana area and will probably not have a great effect on fortunes of Congress. Congress will be wiped out of Andhra region. If Modi factor has any effect in Telangana. BJP + TRS will sweep in telangana. Congress at the most will get 10 MP seats in Telangana + Andhra.

The idea that Congress will benefit from Telangana and will be hailed as the grantor of Telangana by the people is a miscalculation.

2. If Telangana is not granted: Congress will face super flak from TRS + BJP etc. It will benefit BJP + TRS. Congress is already losing to YSRC and TDP in Andhra. COngress may at the best gain 15 seats.

INC seems to have been caught in a rock and a hard place. All Courtesy of chidambaram.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 30 Jul 2013 05:14

RamaY wrote:
When was Modi due to visit Hyderabad?
August 11th.

SwamyG garu: don't forget to buy Rs5 ticket and attend NM speech in LB Stadium.

I will be Bangalore at that time. So will miss him, hopefully the TV carries a live feed.

bhavani · Post by **bhavani** » 30 Jul 2013 05:22

Bade wrote:Ramana, thanks for that explanation. Though I am a still confused why the Majlis (MIM) would want a unified state, if only Hyderabad and surroundings are their stronghold.

MIM's only stronghold is not WHole of hyderabad just one half of hyderabad. In fact BJP wins the other Mp seats in hyderabad. You reach kukatpally, Ameerpet, Banjara Hills, etc areas BJP is very active. The reason BJP loses in hyd is because of INC.

people of Telangana also have no great love for mohammadens. In fact they suffered in years of nizam rule. BJP's prominence will rise in the future, in Telangana. Even though it might be limited in 2014

AIMIM Asaduddin Owaisi 378,854 38.39 +2.97
BJP G Subhash Chanderji 278,709 28.25 -7.49
Congress Konda Lakshma Reddy 249,516 25.29 +6.78
Majlis Bachao Tahreek Majeedullah Khan 47,560 4.82
BSP G Shobha Rani 11,068 1.12
Independent S K Salahuddin Ahmed 6,158 0.62
Independent Syed Gaffar 4,523 0.46
Pyramid Party of India Varsha Dhawan 4,199 0.43
Independent Bhagwan Das 3,189 0.32 -0.43
Independent Mohsin-Bin-Hussain Al-Kansari 2,961 0.30
Majority 100,145 10.14 +4.52

Bade · Post by **Bade** » 30 Jul 2013 05:33

Andhra politics seems so counter intuitive. If MIM has no presence outside Hyderabad or Telengana areas why they seek status quo ?

If BJP sees gains in Telengana but loss in coastal AP, how would it help either. Isn't it roughly equal numbers of MP seats for each new state. So what is the long term gain for BJP from this. Same with Congress.

Confusing as hell if you are not an Andhra person.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 30 Jul 2013 05:39

everybody take a back seat. let the emotions cool off. we'll see if there is any substance to this after INC comes out later today (Tuesday) with its plans.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 30 Jul 2013 05:52

I think the lesser of the agile party will win in AP, due to the tensed situation over there.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 30 Jul 2013 06:12

Bade wrote:Andhra politics seems so counter intuitive. If MIM has no presence outside Hyderabad or Telengana areas why they seek status quo ?

If BJP sees gains in Telengana but loss in coastal AP, how would it help either. Isn't it roughly equal numbers of MP seats for each new state. So what is the long term gain for BJP from this. Same with Congress.

Confusing as hell if you are not an Andhra person.

BJP has no strength anywhere in AP.