Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby Aditya_V » 14 May 2014 19:52

vivek.rao wrote:Today's Chankya tweet

Telangana

Assembly
VP: TRS - 42% CON - 25% TDP+BJP - 19% Others - 14%
Seats: TRS - 71(+/- 9) CON -23 (+/- 7) TDP+BJP 15 (+/- 5) Others 10 (+/- 3)

Parliament
TRS: 9 (+/- 2), CON - 4 (+/- 2) BJP+TDP 3 (+/- 2)


Thats INC victory, ideally TRS INC should join together and vacate the opposition space

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby Aditya_V » 14 May 2014 19:53

S roy NDTV has covered AP- T and Seemandra only, TDP 15, INC- TRS, YSRC and INC -27

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby jagga » 14 May 2014 19:53

Anantha wrote:Ramana and Others +1 on Sadhvi Prgya case. I have followed and gone thru thecase all the way. It was/is complete eyewash designed to create Hindu Terror label.

Lt Col Srikant Purohit should also be released as soon as possible. Not a single evidence has been produced by Maharastra ATS or NIA linking the Col to terror strikes. A honest patriotic officer is being victimised for the last 5-6 years. I mean, what was his fault? Col purohit successfully inflitrated the SIMI and other terror organisations. I am pretty sure he must have found solid evidence of some high profile public personality having links with these terror outfits. Hence, the reason for throwing false charges aginst him. Ack thoo.

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby vic » 14 May 2014 19:56

Rahul M wrote:
merlin wrote:How is NDA going to get laws passed in the Rajya Sabha when then won't have majority there for a long time? Is there any provision for laws to be only passed in the Lok Sabha and even if it does not pass in the Rajya Sabha, send it to the President anyway?

only for money bills LS power is supreme. on everything else they are equal. in case of impasse joint sessions can be held.


NAMO has repeatedly said that we don't need more laws only better Governance. If NAMO can get the budget through Lok Sabha then rest is academic.

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby Dilbu » 14 May 2014 19:57

NDTV Exit Poll-Madhya Pradesh- BJP 24 Con 5 BSP 0
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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby SRoy » 14 May 2014 19:58

Con 5 in MP impossible.
Counting magic post poll.

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby Dilbu » 14 May 2014 19:59

NDTV Exit Poll-Rajasthan BJP 21 Con 3 Others 1
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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby Dilbu » 14 May 2014 20:00

NDTV Exit Poll-Chathisgarh BJP 9 Con 2
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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby Sanku » 14 May 2014 20:02

RamaY wrote:
Tamang wrote:Nalin Kohli


Thx. He should be part of Modi team.


He is.

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby RajeshA » 14 May 2014 20:03

If it NDTV exit poll, please title it, otherwise one doesn't know!

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby muraliravi » 14 May 2014 20:08

If BJP does indeed win this time, the victory will be short lived if they dont change the electoral system. They need to get rid off this first past the post system, introduce run off elections at a seat level, complete elections in at best 2 days to remove voter fatigue and conduct run off's in seats where winner has less than 50% margin within a week.

All this has already been recommended to the NDA government between 1998-2004 (National Commission to review the working of the Constitution) report that was commissioned by AB Vajpayee and submitted by Justice M.N. Venkatachaliah to Arun Jaitley (the then law minister).

http://lawmin.nic.in/ncrwc/ncrwcreport.htm (Full report)

http://lawmin.nic.in/ncrwc/finalreport/v1ch4.htm (Chapter 4: ELECTORAL PROCESSES AND POLITICAL PARTIES)

Under the section 4.16 (Question of Representational Legitimacy)

4.16.4 It has been suggested from several quarters that this principle of representativeness will be fulfilled if the elected representatives win on the basis of 50% plus one vote. If, in the first round, no body gets over 50% of the votes polled, then according to this view, there should be a run-off contest held the very next day or soon thereafter between the top two candidates so that one of them will necessarily win on the basis of 50% plus one votes polled. Several representations from various organizations favoured this option to achieve the objective of better representative democracy. The Chief Election Commissioner is reported to have confirmed that the task of run-off elections can be managed. Actually, the run-off vote is analogous to a re-poll. There is no revision of electoral rolls, no fresh nominations, no fresh campaigning or the like. The Commission is of the view that there are substantial advantages of following the policy of 50% plus one vote. On the one hand, it resolves the problem of inadequate representation. On the other, it also makes it in the self-interest of various political parties themselves to widen their appeal to a wider electorate. It can help push political rhetoric in a direction of mobilizing language might take on comparative ‘universal’ tone as opposed to ‘sectoral’ tones of the present day. With the need to be more broad-based in their appeal, issues that have to do with good governance rather than with cleavages and narrow identities might start to surface in the country.

Due to some internal sabotage the committee watered down their recommendation and said they support the issue, but further discussion is recommended. In 2001, in a consultation paper (http://lawmin.nic.in/ncrwc/finalreport/v2b1-9.htm) they actually strongly rooted for it.

If Namo and his team can get this one law passed, they will change India forever. We need to push this government to the extreme to ensure that this law gets passed. It will eliminate regional parties and manchurians controlled by foreign govts for ever. It will also end minority appeasement and bring governance issues to the focus.

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby RajeshA » 14 May 2014 20:17

muraliravi ji,

cross-posted the above.

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby krishnan » 14 May 2014 20:22

SRoy wrote:Con 5 in MP impossible.
Counting magic post poll.


Congress
35% ± 3%

3 ± 2 (Plus / Minus 2)


---- today's chanakya

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby Kakkaji » 14 May 2014 20:23

Ajit Doval for NSA

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby muraliravi » 14 May 2014 20:24

RajeshA wrote:muraliravi ji,

cross-posted the above.


Thanks Rajesh ji.

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby Dilbu » 14 May 2014 20:25

NDTV Exit Polls- TN AIADMK 32 DMK 5 BJP 2

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby archan » 14 May 2014 20:25

Kakkaji wrote:Ajit Doval for NSA

I thought this was the exit poll discussion thread?

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby RajeshA » 14 May 2014 20:27

Without wishing to derail the discussion here, some tweeter gyan on EVM Manipulation

Sanjay Dixit @Sanjay_Dixit · 10m
(3/3) advance where a party's candidate is going to be placed, so even a manufacturer can't rig it even if he wants. Via @239pradeep

Sanjay Dixit @Sanjay_Dixit · 11m
(2/n) So a Cong candidate may be no.1 in one constituency, 2 in another, 3 in a third. Ditto for other parties. Nobody can know in (contd)

Sanjay Dixit @Sanjay_Dixit · 13m
EVM does not store candidate or party data. It only stores votes to cand no. 1,2,3 and so on. Cand numbers are allotted by alphabets

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby Shanmukh » 14 May 2014 20:28

NDTV Exit Poll

TN
AIADMK - 32 (48%)
DMK - 5 (25%)
NDA - 2 (14%)
Cong - 0 (3%)

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby Dilbu » 14 May 2014 20:34

NDTV POll- Maharashtra
BJP-Sena 34
Con- 13
MNS- 1

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby Mihaylo » 14 May 2014 20:36

What is UndiTV's overall number for NDA ?

-M

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby Dilbu » 14 May 2014 20:37

It is unfolding state by state.

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby Singha » 14 May 2014 20:38

they are not showing overall nos...just adding to a cumulative tally as they go state by state.

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby Shanmukh » 14 May 2014 20:39

Maharashtra NDTV Exit Poll
NDA - 34 (48%)
Cong+ - 13 (33%)
MNS - 1 (4%)

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby Chandragupta » 14 May 2014 20:40

IndiaTV saying both LKA and SS want to become LS Speaker.

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby vivek.rao » 14 May 2014 20:40

Not just BRF, people like @suchetadala @MrsGandhi all are worried about EVM manipulation. Just 2 more days.

NDTV is going to put NDA as 245-265 range. Just watch

I am waiting for final numbers from 5Forty3.in too.

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby vivek.rao » 14 May 2014 20:41

When I see Pranny Roy, Coupta I feel so sad that to what level India's media has come down to.

Traitors,anti-nationals,scammers galore in this. How do we clean this up?
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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby archan » 14 May 2014 20:42

My understanding is 5forty3 is giving Amethi to BJP while Chanakya to Congress, is this right?

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby archan » 14 May 2014 20:42

Chandragupta wrote:IndiaTV saying both LKA and SS want to become LS Speaker.

Thread discipline, please.

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby Santosh » 14 May 2014 20:45

Rndtv exit polls do far - 194 seats: Nda 105, upa 26 others 63. Very close. I suspect they are softening ground for upa+others > nda

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby Shanmukh » 14 May 2014 20:47

Odisha NDTV Exit Poll

BJD - 13 (38%)
BJP - 5 (28%)
Cong - 3 (24%)

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby shyamoo » 14 May 2014 20:47

abhischekcc wrote:Can anybody tell me when would the land price situation in Hyderabad stabilize - now that the partition of AP and elections are both over? When can we expect to see demand come back? 6 months? 1 year? 2 year?

I have a small piece of residential land that I have been trying to dispose off.

Let's discuss this in OT thread.

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby vivek.rao » 14 May 2014 20:49

Santosh wrote:Rndtv exit polls do far - 194 seats: Nda 105, upa 26 others 63. Very close. I suspect they are softening ground for upa+others > nda


NDTV Now
Total: 215 NDA: 110 UPA: 29 Others: 76

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby muraliravi » 14 May 2014 20:49

archan wrote:My understanding is 5forty3 is giving Amethi to BJP while Chanakya to Congress, is this right?


You have me worried. 5forty3 also gave Amritsar to AJ win a handsome margin. All channels are saying that it is a close fight. I am not sure why his model is going wrong in both Amethi and Amritsar and this casts doubt on his overall numbers too. Or maybe he will come out better than all pollsters.

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby milindc » 14 May 2014 20:50

All, don't know where this news should go but being a BRFite wanted to share with comrades
I was big part of this
http://www.informationweek.in/informati ... ore-voters

And I guess you have figured out which party we worked for, coming out now that elections are done.

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby Singha » 14 May 2014 20:53

NDTV Karnataka

BJP - 16
Cong - 10
JDS - 2

so the new Dharmaraja NN might get through after all.

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby Shanmukh » 14 May 2014 20:54

Karnataka NDTV Exit Poll

BJP - 16 (42%)
Cong - 10 (40%)
JD(S) - 2 (11%)

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby morem » 14 May 2014 20:54

milindc wrote:All, don't know where this news should go but being a BRFite wanted to share with comrades
I was big part of this
http://www.informationweek.in/informati ... ore-voters

And I guess you have figured out which party we worked for, coming out now that elections are done.


My Pranaam milind saheb

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby member_28352 » 14 May 2014 20:55

Incidentally if its UPA3 then Chidambaram is projected to be PM.
Zor se bolo, Namo will lose onlee :(( :(( :((

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Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Postby vivek.rao » 14 May 2014 20:56

vivek.rao wrote:
Santosh wrote:Rndtv exit polls do far - 194 seats: Nda 105, upa 26 others 63. Very close. I suspect they are softening ground for upa+others > nda


NDTV Now
Total: 215 NDA: 110 UPA: 29 Others: 76


Total: 243 NDA: 126 UPA: 39 Others: 78


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