No I did not take it as a value judgement point from you. Maybe the word "FUD" was distractive in the conversation., and let us keep that part aside.Suraj wrote:It's the maturity of IC technology that permits it to be built into both $2K and $2M cars, and yet for the fuel and its distribution to be so cheap as to subsidize the technology that can replace it. You may be discussing the technology. I'm not. I'm discussing the economics of it - this is the economics thread after all. It's not a mature technology until it can support itself.
If you choose to instead see the previous post as 'chee, Tesla bad! IC cars good!', you clearly missed the point. I'm not making a value judgement, either against the technology or your choice of car, which you're implying I am doing, with the suggestion of 'FUD'.
Yes IC is far better than electric batteries.
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Electric cars are better than IC based cars (I drive both!).
However electric batteries are now here and to stay and will only improve further. There is a critical mass building and at one stage, opting for a EV will be a easier choice then opting for an IC.
On top of it IC has become a low margin produce., how much cash you will really get if you are 20% profitable on say a 15k car and 15% profitable on say a 75k car. The difference in cash flow is some 4x. Now say if the margin on 75k cars go from 15% to 20%., what is your cash flow?
In other words for the same amount of investment* I have to sell 4x cars if I am a low-end IC manufacturer.
There is a reason why Fiskars had to shutter down while Tesla stock soared., it is difficult to explain until one experiences it self.
*The capital cost of setting up a new car factory are very high. In fact IC based car factories have shuttered down. There is a reason to all this, just because you manufacture car does not mean it will sell. Sales/Distribution/Service centers have to be opened up. Support services have to be trained etc.