India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

[uddu]

Deal signing should not be attended by PM. Piyush Goyal can attend. The next moment of signing the deal, Trump could state something else and the blot will be on our PM. Trump should be avoided for the remaining time of his term. Even if its that inevitable a short recorded speech could be played or through video conference. Any statement made during that short interaction need to be countered right there itself and closed.

Indians will never ever show any respect for Trump. He thinks everyone is like him and will change their respect based on the money flowing and on business deals.
https://x.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1987991927531467045
@AdityaRajKaul
US President Donald Trump says, "We're making a deal with India, a much different deal than we had in the past. So right now, they don't love me, but they'll love us again. We're getting a fair deal, just a fair trade deal. We had pretty unfair trade deals...But we're getting close. Scott, I think we're pretty close to doing a deal that's good for everybody, right?..."

[uddu]

Add Piyush Goyal to the list of Next Gen PM in making including Yogi and Himanta
Piyush Goyal Draws Red Line In India-US Trade Talks, Says No Compromise On Farmers Or Fishermen
Commerce Minister Piyush Goyal has made India’s stand crystal clear in the ongoing trade negotiations with the United States - “We want a fair, equitable, and balanced trade deal, but we are not going to compromise.” Speaking at Udyog Samagam 2025, Goyal said India will protect the interests of its farmers, fishermen, and dairy sector while pursuing global growth. Talks between India and the US have entered their sixth phase, aiming to finalize the first tranche of the trade pact by late 2025. The deal, which could double bilateral trade to $500 billion by 2030, comes amid tariff tensions that began during the Trump administration. While Washington hopes for faster progress, India’s message is firm that national interests will come first. As both sides prepare for the final push, Goyal’s words echo a new confidence in India’s economic diplomacy.


'India Won’t Be A Dumping Ground': Piyush Goyal Blasts China For Unfair And Unethical Trade Practice
Commerce and Industry Minister Piyush Goyal has issued a stern warning that India will not tolerate the dumping of low-quality goods from foreign markets. Taking a strong stance against unfair trade practices, Goyal said countries exploiting tariff gaps, especially after US tariff changes, are flooding developing markets with substandard products. Speaking at an industry forum, he declared, “India will not become a dumping ground.” The minister emphasized that the government is tightening quality checks, enforcing international standards, and protecting domestic industries. Highlighting the importance of Atmanirbhar Bharat, Goyal said the focus is now on boosting exports, strengthening manufacturing, and ensuring every trade pact remains fair and balanced. His fiery statement signals a decisive shift in India’s trade philosophy: one rooted in dignity, quality, and national interest.

[Amber G.]

NO DOUBT TRUMP-GEN MUNIR BONHOMIE HAS EMBOLDENED PAK.
U.S Foreign Secretary Rubio: yeah, we’re aware of the potential that (blast) holds. But I think the Indians – need to be commended; they have been very measured and cautious and very professional..."

[Rudradev]

In fact, India has been measured, cautious and professional. Until the CCS reviewed all data from the investigation and made a collective determination, no official statement from GOI referred to the blast as 'an act of terror'. But now it is out there, and India has already pronounced that it will view any act of terrorism linked to Pakistan as an act of war by Pakistan.

By laying it on thick with his Munir friendship, claims about ending the May hostilities, crypto/"rear-earth" dealings with Pakistan, sanctions/tariffs against India-- Trump has in fact squandered any leverage that previous US administrations might have counted on to stay India's hand under the present circumstances. All he can do now (and has done) is decline to deliver a couple of AH-64s on time, not that the Indian armed forces would have been counting on those for Sindoor Part II.

[Amber G.]

^^^ xpost Yes they’re very capable in these investigations .. and they know a terrorist sponsor when they see one.....

Meanwhile sharing : ....

Indians bring their whole village to America: Ann Coulter says everyone knows Indians and Chinese openly cheat

The Indians ...the H-1B workers come in and then they bring their elderly parents so they can instantly go on social security. They can bring the whole village in who you’ll be paying for, America,"
...d there are photos of them crawling out of windows and passing answers to someone. "America is traditionally a high-trust society," Ann Coulter said, adding that when someone shows the high score of .... the odds are that they are probably cheating.

[krisna]

I am continuing my comments with few posts obviously some long over time. Unable to be frequent on BRF due to other competing issues etc.

I find it pretty amusing that many view orange monkey as the most divisive figure.

Actually it is both parties across the spectrum. It is why I simply at some here who love to troll ornage monkey when they themsleves are the biggets trolls.

I find it extremely nauseating that these posters dont see thru the whole glass ceiling.

Education/higher education/professional skills is not the criteria to set the bar . It is common sense which is pretty uncommon sadly.

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The approach to racism is different between the parties involved in the land of milk and honey. Both hate but do lip service to heal the wounds.


elephants -- well open and abusive. Not much diplomacy or willingness to engage with others. They live in their own shell/world. Not much to talk about.


democrats - for all their own rhetroic. they pay lip service and enagage in tokenism without doing much ground work. they live in make believe world.
They are racially insensitive mostly- lot of grandstanding. They create policies which inadvertenlty fuels more "structural" racism which is more damaging than elephants blunt open racism.

dumborats promote and worsen racial divide by their rhetoric- cause "reverse" racism . Instaed of healing wounds- they burst it more open.

IOW they dont allow RACIAL wounds to heal. They use it as a stick to beat the elephants and win elections.


Mostly the immigrants and "non-safed" log go with democrats because of this tokenism. Historically the immigrtaion bill of democrats is said to be the much "love" for this . Many posters here dont know that demcrats brought this bill to bring in whites from europe to america. they thought that euopeans devatstated by world wars would come to america. The democrtas at that time JFK actually campaiahgned on these. Later post his assasination the next democrtaic incumbent passed the bill. many from both poarties actually did n ot want this bill. BUt JFK and other democrtas in favor of the bill managed to convince them that only whites will come from europe.

But in reality democrats are simply scums who prey on immigrants insecurities and worsen the existing damaged realtions between various communities in america.

democrats emphasie racial injustice in a unjust way . This adds fuel to worsening racial relations.
They incorrectly characterise social injustices in their own way and destroy healing.
They create hurdles in law and order, are weak on ceratin sections, harsh elsewhere based on their "perceived" social injustices. This creates a mosaic pattern of varying social heirharchies with differing pecking orders withn their system.

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For all posters please remember

both elephants donkey are simply christians - many are good and excellent people no doubt .
elephants are conservative because of their stance on prolife/abortion etc .
donkeys are liberal wrt prolife/abortion etc .

Both profess to be true christians and hate "others" with differing approaches.

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Sanatanis are hated by both sides. donkeys indulge in tokensim- they make sure the sanatani is simply a good human being MINUS sanatani BADGE. They dont do this to muslims or christians. They refuse to BACK a true sanatani who is open about his culture/religion.
donkeys have the most hatred- they are everywhere in universities media and many other places denying the respect to sanatanis to dipslay their culture much more thna elephants. They actively denigrate the sanatanis and mock them.


Elephants are little better - they respect talented persons - of course and at times show their "bigotery" and "hate". All in all they do also support much more strongly than democrats on sanatanis. This is just sort of a spectrum within their world.

[Vayutuvan]

@krisna gaaru, great post.

I will take a xtian fundamentalist over an Islamaoist fundamentalist, a xtian moderate over an Islamaoist moderate, a xtian liberal over an Islamaoist liberal—any day.

[sanjaykumar]

And there are some who will choose a Christian fundamentalist over a Muslim liberal.

[Vayutuvan]

And there are some who will choose a Christian fundamentalist over a Muslim liberal.

Yes, that too. I gave a poset. The relationship "choose over" is reflexive, transitive, and anti-symmetric.

[A_Gupta]

https://www.npr.org/2015/10/03/44533983 ... ration-act

The Immigration and Nationality Act, signed at the foot of the Statue of Liberty on Oct. 3, 1965, abolished the national origin quota system, under which immigrants were chosen on the basis of their race and ancestry. The quotas set aside tens of thousands of visas each year for immigrants from Northern and Western Europe, while many countries in Asia, Africa, and the Middle East were allocated barely 100 slots each. It was a blatantly discriminatory system.

Under the new law, immigrants were to be selected on the basis of their family connections in the United States and the skills and training they could offer, with all nationalities treated more or less equally.

The original version of the bill, introduced in the Senate by Philip Hart (D-Mich.) and in the House by Emanuel Celler (D-N.Y.), gave immigration preference to people whose skills and training would be "especially advantageous" to the United States.

The conservatives had an ally in Rep. Michael Feighan (D-Ohio), the famously ornery chairman of the House Immigration subcommittee. Feighan refused even to hold hearings on the immigration reform bill and relented only after the president gave him the famous "Johnson treatment" when he took Feighan to Ohio with him on Air Force One.

In the end, Feighan agreed to support the reform proposal, but he insisted on a key change. Rather than giving preference to those immigrants whose skills were "especially advantageous" to the United States, Feighan insisted on prioritizing those immigrants who already had relatives in the United States, with a new preference category for adult brothers and sisters of naturalized U.S. citizens.

In justifying the change, Feighan told his conservative allies that a family unification preference would favor those nationalities already represented in the U.S. population, meaning Europeans.

[vijayk]

https://x.com/aravind/status/1989165068429451748

IMO, in simple terms, Pak has been supplied with advanced tech by the US, or is being directly helped by the US to mess with navigational guidance systems that use GPS.

It is using these devices to mess with GPS to warn India that it can't give a military response, while also carrying out the terror attacks.

"It is now telling India we will do terror attacks and we know you want to respond militarily. But, if you try, we can mess with your planes, ships, and missiles. Do what you can."

If my assumptions are true, this is serious for India because US is now again using Pak to arm twist India. No wonder Trump made some statements like 'i don't want to cause trouble for Modi', 'India will do a good trade deal soon', and his commerce secretary said 'India will apologize to the US and do the trade deal.'

This also means India may not do OpSindoor 2.0 now. Or delay any kinetic action on Pakistan until it can sort out these GPS issues. And Pak may be emboldened to carry out another big terror attack soon.

If the US is helping Pak in messing with India's navigation while Pak tries terror attacks, then I think India needs to send all US military personnel, planes, and equipment out ASAP. Enough of having them in India for "training."

India issues a NOTAM warning aircraft of GPS interference/loss around air traffic routes within its airspace near Mumbai, this follows reports of similar interreference observed around New Delhi

Valid: 13-17 November 2025

[krithivas]

^^^ Please do a quick google news search on GPS interference. Not to downplay the danger, It is happening world over, Europe and ME. This can also be the act of other trans national players. Let’s not give TSP overt credits for this.

[bala]

@krisna gaaru, great post.

Agreed. The existing US-Indian (many in US congress) donkeys toe the line of CIA-Pentagon etc and they aren't exactly on the Sanatani side of things. Some like pramila are off their rockers most of the times. The majority of the elephants you know their position clearly and you can deal with them appropriately. US foreign policy is strictly driven by the deep state operatives and they use both sides to further their agenda. Sometimes it is confusing with the donkey/elephant line of thinking but make no mistake these deep state minions ultimately get to rule the US and the world. They have 300 T (around 200T looted from India) in assets globally to make it happen. So many of them are embedded in critical depts/functions which DJT is trying to axe. The paki co-opting by DJT is a great example of deep state operatives working behind the scenes.

[Amber G.]

https://x.com/aravind/status/1989165068429451748

IMO, in simple terms, Pak has been supplied with advanced tech by the US, or is being directly helped by the US to mess with navigational guidance systems that use GPS.

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